Just how amazing could Baldur's Gate 3 be? Can it overthrow FF16 & Starfield as best RPG of 2023?

Of course it could, but it will niche, just like the two divinity titles.

I am trying to get a coop playthrough with Maroxad, but his gtx1070 from the 1990's couldn't handle the game, especially when played in coop.

lol

Well that's not an issue PS5 owners will have to worry about since Larian made the smart choice to not force in limited hardware that would hold back proper utilization of their coop features.

I’ll always have a stronger preference for JRPG’s so Final Fantasy XVI is my most hyped of the three, especially with the kind of combat system it’s going to have in it. However all three of these games will scratch their own distinct itch for me. I’m just really looking forward to each of them and hope they all turn out to be fantastic games. What a truly amazing year this’ll be if that happens.

I'll not answer the poll because wtf is that?

But BG3 thematically is less interesting for me than sci-fi. And Final Fantasy is... well is Final Fantasy and I have absolutely no intention of ever playing a FF again.

Looks like it's basically Divinity Original Sin 3, but with a much bigger budget than previous games. So yeah, it could be GOTY.

Looks and what I have played of the beta is absolutely amazing. So yeah definitely my most hyped rpg this year!

No doubt Sony fanboys will try claiming these are the best games ever made while shedding crocodile tears over Starfield and Redfall and treating COD like it's not on PS consoles even though it is going nowhere.

What role playing happens in Fantasy May Cry?

I can gaurantee BG3 will be a better RPG than FF16 and Starfield. I mean, Starfield looks terrible and FF is FF.

I don't know if BG3 will be better than FF16.

It could be GOTY, it could also flop. Right now its fan reception is a bit more mixed than I would like. Due to having to find a delicate balance between BG fans and their core Larian fans.

I for one do NOT want RTWP for this game though. RTWP was always the worst part of Baldur's Gate 1 and 2.

Never seen someone get so salty over the fact that someone still uses a 1070.

The 1070 can run over 90% of all games just fine and the <10% that it can't... nothing of value was lost.

It's a fantastic game, but it doesn't have Bethesda's mainstream appeal or advertising money.

I think it's likely to be the best RPG of the year, but I don't know if it'll get the formal awards for it.

Stupid poll options, why bother?

And also...

Nuff said. :P

Where is the correct option of Starfield and BG3 will absolutely shit on final fantasy?

If the statements made by a well known Game industry insiders are true, then it will beat out Starfield but sadly it won’t beat out FF16 😢which is a bummer , because I was really hoping that wasn’t the case

Cool for fans. I just never got into that style of play.

I'm looking forward to it. But have largely been ignoring info.

Want to go in blind.

OKAY Mr that cares about performance, bro.

@above_average: Balder's Gate games are not first person action RPGs. They are RPGs with a ton of strategy and real time tactics required. BG2 was more of a RTS than RPG. And, I don't see BG3 deviating from that formula - it even has a dice-based combat system.

So, saying "it's better than FF16 or Starfield" is not very appropriate, because they are verydifferent games. I would have said (back in the day) "Is Balder's Gate 2 better than Myth 2"?

As I said.

A 1070 can run 90% of the games out there just fine (BG3 being one of them). And the 10% it can't are games I dont bother with in the first place. I will upgrade once my card breaks or if a game I actually wanna play, requires something more.

Unlike you, I don't buy hardware then buy software to justify said purchase. If I did, I would have wasted my money on things like the PS5. That is why it is cool that Sony are putting their stuff on PC, means more people can enjoy more software with less hardware.

I keep a notepad on potential software purchases

With the Switch, I think I waited a year. Before the system had enough software to justify a purchase. As for other potential gaming hardware...

And I am not upgrading my PC for 2 games.

@Maroxad said:

@hardwenzen said:

@Maroxad said:

@hardwenzen said:

Of course it could, but it will niche, just like the two divinity titles.

I am trying to get a coop playthrough with Maroxad, but his gtx1070 from the 1990's couldn't handle the game, especially when played in coop.

Never seen someone get so salty over the fact that someone still uses a 1070.

The 1070 can run over 90% of all games just fine and the <10% that it can't... nothing of value was lost.

OKAY Mr that cares about performance, bro.

As I said.

A 1070 can run 90% of the games out there just fine (BG3 being one of them). And the 10% it can't are games I dont bother with in the first place. I will upgrade once my card breaks or if a game I actually wanna play, requires something more.

Unlike you, I don't buy hardware then buy software to justify said purchase. If I did, I would have wasted my money on things like the PS5. That is why it is cool that Sony are putting their stuff on PC, means more people can enjoy more software with less hardware.

I keep a notepad on potential software purchases

With the Switch, I think I waited a year. Before the system had enough software to justify a purchase. As for other potential gaming hardware...

And I am not upgrading my PC for 2 games.

"run"🤭The Switch can "run" games as well, but how well does it run them? But you care about performance cuz you're a hardcore gamer that cares about frames over everything else btw.

"Unlike you, I don't buy hardware then buy software to justify said purchase." What an Assuming Andy. Assuming Andy with a 1070 none the less😎

Wow! FF16 looks so much better than anything on the X, PC or the Switch.

Baldur's Gate III is the heavy favorite to win RPG GOTY.

Remember when Disco Elysium cleaned up RPG awards?

BG3 Is revolutionary. FFXVI looks like just another AAA title.

I'm sure it will be amazing. Larian makes great CRPGs.

However, when it comes to CRPGs, I'm a bit more excited for Rogue Trader right now. Will it be as good as BG3? Probably not, but it will be more interesting. Believe it or not, Rogue Trader might be closest thing we'll get so far to a Star Trek RPG I've always said they should make.

So yeah, keeping an eye on it, but might have to keep it on the back burner until I'm done with Rogue Trader.

I'm totally rooting for FFXVI. Well, I can understand why some people might be skeptical about FFXVI, especially after the lackluster launch of Forspoken, but it's being made by a completely different team at Square Enix. Personally, I don't have much interest in the other two, but I'm looking forward to seeing how they turn out. Either way, I feel like the gamers are going to win this year.

The problem is that FFXVI basically looks like any other AAA game with only its brand leading to hype. It also can show how far behind JRPGs are in side content. A lot can go wrong on the story front.

Baldur's Gate III is too forward thinking for FFXVI, it will leave it in the dust come awards time.

And FFXVI may not be the best JRPG or SE game, that could go to Octopath Traveler II.

No, it doesn't. Hell it looks worse in many cases to the next gen version to TW3.

Really?

Well, let's see. I bet FFXVI will leave BGIII in the dust in terms of overall game quality, including story, characters, graphics, combat, music, sound, acting, etc.

60+ fps. Good enough. Especially since the MP games I do play are mostly strategy. You wont need a high fps for Turn Based Strategy games. But if I played a competitive shooter, I would probably aim for 120.

Is that why you are so insecure about Sony putting out their games on PC?

Oh Maroxad Maroxad Maroxad. You try so hard to sound like a hardcore gamer, but i see through your BS, and its not even difficult. You're not fooling anyone with your "i care about performance, and nothing else".

I mean, somebody just turned into a badger. That's got my attention alone, turning into such an OP creature

That is the D&D druid for ya!

Can turn into ANY animal, as long as they have seen them.

You are correct that I am not a hardcore gamer. That said, I am less casual than you.

My stance on performance is that that I prioritize it over graphics. Good performance enhances gameplay, good graphics don't.

Again, you're assuming like an Assuming Andy. You were also pretending to be hardcore until today.

And your stance on graphics and performance is foolish, just like from every sheep on SW. Good graphics allows the developer to showcase their title the way its meant to be seen. It improves the atmosphere by a couple of miles. It improves the immersion by a ton. And guess what? They're in direct correlation with gameplay, and the only reason why YOU and every sheep are always coping with the "graphics don't matter", is because you can't have them with your hardware. When you can't have something, you activate your coping mechanism, and pretend like they don't matter, and that nobody cares. That is what you've been doing, and it makes you look like a fool.

For someone who is supposedly focuses on pc gaming as their primary platform, if you cared about performance, you wouldn't have anything under an rtx3070 in 2023🤷‍♂️But you don't. Why? Because just like a mobile gamer, you take what's given and pretend to be perfectly happy with what's on offer.

Incredibly casual behaviour, Maroxad. Very disgusting and clownish.

You're hilarious.

BGIII is already getting great reception of its story, characters, and its combat system. Its combat system is game changing.

Also choices will matter, unlike FFXVI.

Where did I say I was hardcore? While I like to be competitive in online multiplayer. I am hardly the cream of the crop. I am not the one theorycrafting new ways to optimize speedruns.

Literally nothing you mentioned affects gameplay. And games can be really immersive without cutting edge graphics. If you played any video game at a reasonably high level, you would know that in competitive gaming. People actually tone down graphics, not just to reduce FPS, but to also reduce visual clutter.

Don't try to snake yourself out of this. You have been captured, and i will sell you on the black market.

Graphics do nothing else but improve atmosphere. Ignoring it, and pretend like its not needed is very foolish. I also find it really funny how you talk about immersion, and in the next sentense, you mention competitive gaming. Immersion is for singeplayer ONLY. Surprised that i even need to tell you something like that. Oh you little Maroxad. When i was planning to get into BF2042, before it was even released, i was the one planning of getting it on pc instead of the ps5 version just so i could lower its setting, make the game as washed out as possible to make it so its easy to spot movement/people hiding in corners, and had people on SW telling me how this is like cheating. And you come in here with your "People actually tone down graphics" as if you've just learned about it last week.🤦‍♂️You make me die of cringe, Maroxad. You really do.

Why are we acting like we haven’t had BG3 for almost 1.5 years already? So, we know exactly what we’re getting there. As for FFXVI and anything else, who knows.

@above_average: I think your poll is bullsh*t fanboy drivel.

BTW, Baldur's Gate games use a turn based, dice combat system, very niche. You're overhyped it.

Given the recent track record of single player Final Fantasy? I think that’s a “X to doubt” if there ever was one. Dollar Store Devil May Cry with a fantasy setting isn’t Final Fantasy. I’ll get my fill of FF this year with Pixel Remaster FF6. Well I also play FF14 but without kyle playing at the same time on voice chat it’s just me doing dailies that are usually half or more lvl 50 and below content with less than half my toolkit available. Playing the MSQ of the latest expac of FF14 is physically painful.

The story is decent enough but the way they deliver it to you is, as the kids say these days, ”cringe fr no cap”.

@hardwenzen: Maroxad is correct. Watch high level fighting games tourney play. Notice that the vast majority of them using a training stage with bare bone visuals. Their is a good reason for that.

What does this have anything to do with what i said? There is a difference between CHOOSING an empty stage in a fighting game, a genre that is not demanding at all, to not being able to get high performance in a newly released shooter (or whichever genre) because your hardware is garbage. Then you pretend to care about nothing but performance, while also not being able to achieve high frames with his 1070.

No he isn't overhyping it whatsoever. You're butthurt because you can't play it, so you tell yourself its niche, when in reality Baldur's Gate as a series is very popular with boomers and millennials. That's enough to sell a good amount.

After FF 15, my hopes for FF 16 are definitely in check. I've watched the gameplay video and it looks like they made Devil May Cry under the FF name. The thing that keeps me interested is it is a different team than FF15, but I wasn't a huge fan of FF14 either. (Not a big MMO guy)

I have never been real hyped for Starfield. I liked Oblivion, but found Skyrim to not hold my interest at all. Fallout 4 was a letdown for me.

I think BG 3 could definitely be the best of these three games. Larian makes some really quality games and what we've seen and played of BG3 has me excited to get the full game. I will get FF 16 on a deep discount and I'll play Starfield on Gamepass.

They are 3 vastly different games at the same time, so comparing them is kinda weird.