Just like 3d-Dot Heroes, I think Crackdown 2 is under rated on this site...

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#1 Squall18
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3D dot Heroes got a 7.5, and this was arguably one of my favorite games this year. I played the heck out of it and enjoyed every bit of it. EAsily an 8.5 in my books.

I feel that a lot of new features in the new Crackdown are over looked.

Anyone else feel this way?

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#2 Ninja-Hippo
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If anything they were generous to Crackdown 2. Destructoid gave it a 4.5 and i seriously think their review was more up front and honest about it.
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#3 Animal-Mother
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3D dot Heroes got a 7.5, and this was arguably one of my favorite games this year. I played the heck out of it and enjoyed every bit of it. EAsily an 8.5 in my books.

I feel that a lot of new features in the new Crackdown are over looked.

Anyone else feel this way?

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Ehh 3D dot heroes is good. Crackdown 2 demo really disappointed.
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#4 fabz_95
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Since the game has a score of 73 on Metacritic, I don't think it's underrated on this site.
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#5 Colin1192
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I doubt it, the demo is really brutal so I assume the full length game is not vastly better

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#6 FlamesOfGrey
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3D Dot Heroes is very derivative of Zelda and even though the gameplay is good it's already been done better. Crackdown 2 did almost nothing to improve upon the flaws on the 1st (according to the demo and reviews) and deserved it's score as well. I can understand why they both got the score they did. Personally 3D Dot Heroes is an 8.0 for me. I haven't played CD2 yet. I may buy it next week if not then next month.
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#7 raiden509
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Going by the metric , a 73 is a good score for this games its a blast to play but it hasn't done anything new with the series .

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#8 Ragnarok1051
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I believe 3D game heroes is overated around here.

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#9 Raymundo_Manuel
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How is it underrated? I'm sure the reviewers gave it the score they thought it deserved.
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#10 Animal-Mother
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I believe 3D game heroes is overated around here.

Ragnarok1051
Lol wut?
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#11 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

I believe 3D game heroes is overated around here.

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Lol wut?

I hear too much praise for it while I believe it to be just a good game. Nothing special about it at all imo.
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#12 svenus97
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If anything they were generous to Crackdown 2. Destructoid gave it a 4.5 and i seriously think their review was more up front and honest about it. Ninja-Hippo
You mean the same guys that gave AC2 a 4.5 ?
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#13 Dahaka-UK
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Actually having 3D Dot Heroes, it's a pretty damn good game. Crackdown 2 however is just Crackdown 1 with a dlc patch. Heard they made a few things much worse as well.

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#14 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

I believe 3D game heroes is overated around here.

Ragnarok1051
Lol wut?

I hear too much praise for it while I believe it to be just a good game. Nothing special about it at all imo.

Yea but...you dislike Zelda so... :P
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#15 h575309
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Crackdown 2 has gotten a wide range of reviews, with some of the really low ones completely unwarranted. The game is not broke, far from it actually. The core mechanics are fine and I havent noticed any gamebreaking flaws. There are harsh sites like Eurogamer and Edge that both gave it an 8. So if your on the fence, at least rent it. Personally, I like the art style, the progression system, and mowing down freaks with a car 8)

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If anything they were generous to Crackdown 2. Destructoid gave it a 4.5 and i seriously think their review was more up front and honest about it. Ninja-Hippo
Destructoid likes to attract hits with negative attention, like Zero Punctuation. It's sensationalistic imo.
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3D Dot Heroes is very derivative of Zelda and even though the gameplay is good it's already been done better.FlamesOfGrey

You can apply that to every single game genre in existance. "Oh that game was great but theres another game 1000 times better so just forget it." Basically thats what your saying. 3D Dot Heroe was a good iteration of Zelda. It will be forgotten because Zelda fans find it hard to grasp that theres an equal. They can't bear the thought.

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#18 h575309
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]If anything they were generous to Crackdown 2. Destructoid gave it a 4.5 and i seriously think their review was more up front and honest about it. donalbane
Destructoid likes to attract hits with negative attention, like Zero Punctuation. It's sensationalistic imo.

Id have to agree. I mean, the game may be around a 7-7.5, but a 4.5 denotes close to a broken game. Unless theyre playing a different build than the final retail copy.
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[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"]3D Dot Heroes is very derivative of Zelda and even though the gameplay is good it's already been done better.Dahaka-UK

You can apply that to every single game genre in existance. "Oh that game was great but theres another game 1000 times better so just forget it." Basically thats what your saying. 3D Dot Heroe was a good iteration of Zelda. It will be forgotten because Zelda fans find it hard to grasp that theres an equal. They can't bear the thought.

It's a clone and a nearly identical clone at that. I will always think somewhat poorly of clones that don't evolve gameplay enough from whatever game is their inspiration. 3D Dot Heroes is Zelda but it isn't Zelda and it's fans should dismiss it because they have played the exact same thing many many years ago.
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#20 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Lol wut?

I hear too much praise for it while I believe it to be just a good game. Nothing special about it at all imo.

Yea but...you dislike Zelda so... :P

You could be on to something. :P
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#21 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

I believe 3D game heroes is overated around here.

Ragnarok1051
Lol wut?

I hear too much praise for it while I believe it to be just a good game. Nothing special about it at all imo.

Really? In all honesty I cannot tell if you are being sarcastic. Because if not, I do not see this praise.
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[QUOTE="Dahaka-UK"]

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"]3D Dot Heroes is very derivative of Zelda and even though the gameplay is good it's already been done better.FlamesOfGrey

You can apply that to every single game genre in existance. "Oh that game was great but theres another game 1000 times better so just forget it." Basically thats what your saying. 3D Dot Heroe was a good iteration of Zelda. It will be forgotten because Zelda fans find it hard to grasp that theres an equal. They can't bear the thought.

It's a clone and a nearly identical clone at that. I will always think somewhat poorly of clones that don't evolve gameplay enough from whatever game is their inspiration. 3D Dot Heroes is Zelda but it isn't Zelda and it's fans should dismiss it because they have played the exact same thing many many years ago.

The thing is the goal wasint to evolve gameplay,but give you the old school gameplay feel and a funny world. The game knows what it is and is proud of it. Its not trying to say "hey im orignal and thought of all of this my self" like some other games do. Its not suppose to be taken uber serious.

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[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"]3D Dot Heroes is very derivative of Zelda and even though the gameplay is good it's already been done better.Dahaka-UK

You can apply that to every single game genre in existance. "Oh that game was great but theres another game 1000 times better so just forget it." Basically thats what your saying. 3D Dot Heroe was a good iteration of Zelda. It will be forgotten because Zelda fans find it hard to grasp that theres an equal. They can't bear the thought.

I like 3D Dot Heroes (Gave it an 8.5), but it is no Zelda. The dungeons design is less creative and the puzzles are more generic.

It has a spectacular overworld though.

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[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"]3D Dot Heroes is very derivative of Zelda and even though the gameplay is good it's already been done better.Dahaka-UK

You can apply that to every single game genre in existance. "Oh that game was great but theres another game 1000 times better so just forget it." Basically thats what your saying. 3D Dot Heroe was a good iteration of Zelda. It will be forgotten because Zelda fans find it hard to grasp that theres an equal. They can't bear the thought.

Also, a clone can never be an equal if it doesn't improve on its inspiration. A clone has "borrowed greatness" which means that its greatness is less than that of the original.

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[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="Dahaka-UK"]

You can apply that to every single game genre in existance. "Oh that game was great but theres another game 1000 times better so just forget it." Basically thats what your saying. 3D Dot Heroe was a good iteration of Zelda. It will be forgotten because Zelda fans find it hard to grasp that theres an equal. They can't bear the thought.

finalfantasy94

It's a clone and a nearly identical clone at that. I will always think somewhat poorly of clones that don't evolve gameplay enough from whatever game is their inspiration. 3D Dot Heroes is Zelda but it isn't Zelda and it's fans should dismiss it because they have played the exact same thing many many years ago.

The thing is the goal wasint to evolve gameplay,but give you the old school gameplay feel and a funny world. The game knows what it is and is proud of it. Its not trying to say "hey im orignal and thought of all of this my self" like some other games do. Its not suppose to be taken uber serious.

And I'm fine with that. 3D Dot Heroes is a delightful game and I don't really expect it to evolve on the Zelda formula. I just don't want to hear people going on about how it's Zelda's "equal" cause that's BS.

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#26 FlamesOfGrey
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="Dahaka-UK"]

You can apply that to every single game genre in existance. "Oh that game was great but theres another game 1000 times better so just forget it." Basically thats what your saying. 3D Dot Heroe was a good iteration of Zelda. It will be forgotten because Zelda fans find it hard to grasp that theres an equal. They can't bear the thought.

It's a clone and a nearly identical clone at that. I will always think somewhat poorly of clones that don't evolve gameplay enough from whatever game is their inspiration. 3D Dot Heroes is Zelda but it isn't Zelda and it's fans should dismiss it because they have played the exact same thing many many years ago.

The thing is the goal wasint to evolve gameplay,but give you the old school gameplay feel and a funny world. The game knows what it is and is proud of it. Its not trying to say "hey im orignal and thought of all of this my self" like some other games do. Its not suppose to be taken uber serious.

I know what 3D Dot Heroes was about but that's why I also understand why some will not consider it anything special because it isn't.
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#27 Sniping_Crowbar
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No crackdown 2 is jsut more of the same it doesn't innovate, it actually degraded fromt he first one, there is no story what so ever, its just a generic free raom super cop game that you can beat a in a few hours. I rented the game and I still feel like i got jipped. The game is not a very good example of free raom type games. Sub par game is sub par.
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[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"]3D Dot Heroes is very derivative of Zelda and even though the gameplay is good it's already been done better.Dahaka-UK

You can apply that to every single game genre in existance. "Oh that game was great but theres another game 1000 times better so just forget it." Basically thats what your saying. 3D Dot Heroe was a good iteration of Zelda. It will be forgotten because Zelda fans find it hard to grasp that theres an equal. They can't bear the thought.

Lol, in no way, shape, or form is 3D dot heroes equal to Zelda. FlamesofGrey means that since the gameplay of 3d dot is so similar to Zelda, it's hard for it to become noticed and appreciated, when Zelda does it so much better. Also, if a shooter played "decent enough" and yet ANOTHER shooter played 1000 times better, would you pick the crap one? Didn't think so. Games don't need pity points for trying.

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I ment equal in terms of gameplay not quality. Zelda isn't that hard of game to copy. It's just a lot developers haven't even bothered. To finally see a developer create something similer to Zelda on PS3 only for it to get slammed to pieces by rabid nintendo fanboys and for that reason it wont sell well not because it's a bad game. It's a decent game, 15 hours of content. Can't go wrong.

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#30 Dahaka-UK
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[QUOTE="Dahaka-UK"]

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"]3D Dot Heroes is very derivative of Zelda and even though the gameplay is good it's already been done better.smashed_pinata

You can apply that to every single game genre in existance. "Oh that game was great but theres another game 1000 times better so just forget it." Basically thats what your saying. 3D Dot Heroe was a good iteration of Zelda. It will be forgotten because Zelda fans find it hard to grasp that theres an equal. They can't bear the thought.

Lol, in no way, shape, or form is 3D dot heroes equal to Zelda. FlamesofGrey means that since the gameplay of 3d dot is so similar to Zelda, it's hard for it to become noticed and appreciated, when Zelda does it so much better. Also, if a shooter played "decent enough" and yet ANOTHER shooter played 1000 times better, would you pick the crap one? Didn't think so. Games don't need pity points for trying.

Just because it's 1000 times better doesn't mean the game before it is crap. 1000 is a bit extreme actually. An I wasn't refering to Zelda when I said 1000 times better because Zelda isn't 1000 times better than 3D Dot Game Heroes.

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[QUOTE="smashed_pinata"]

[QUOTE="Dahaka-UK"]

You can apply that to every single game genre in existance. "Oh that game was great but theres another game 1000 times better so just forget it." Basically thats what your saying. 3D Dot Heroe was a good iteration of Zelda. It will be forgotten because Zelda fans find it hard to grasp that theres an equal. They can't bear the thought.

Dahaka-UK

Lol, in no way, shape, or form is 3D dot heroes equal to Zelda. FlamesofGrey means that since the gameplay of 3d dot is so similar to Zelda, it's hard for it to become noticed and appreciated, when Zelda does it so much better. Also, if a shooter played "decent enough" and yet ANOTHER shooter played 1000 times better, would you pick the crap one? Didn't think so. Games don't need pity points for trying.

Just because it's 1000 times better doesn't mean the game before it is crap. 1000 is a bit extreme actually. An I wasn't refering to Zelda when I said 1000 times better because Zelda isn't 1000 times better than 3D Dot Game Heroes.

You're right it's not crap. It's just average.

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Meh, it deserved it's 7.0 Tried the demo and didn't enjoy it very much
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#33 Dahaka-UK
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[QUOTE="Dahaka-UK"]

[QUOTE="smashed_pinata"]

Lol, in no way, shape, or form is 3D dot heroes equal to Zelda. FlamesofGrey means that since the gameplay of 3d dot is so similar to Zelda, it's hard for it to become noticed and appreciated, when Zelda does it so much better. Also, if a shooter played "decent enough" and yet ANOTHER shooter played 1000 times better, would you pick the crap one? Didn't think so. Games don't need pity points for trying.

smashed_pinata

Just because it's 1000 times better doesn't mean the game before it is crap. 1000 is a bit extreme actually. An I wasn't refering to Zelda when I said 1000 times better because Zelda isn't 1000 times better than 3D Dot Game Heroes.

You're right it's not crap. It's just average.

Crackdown 2 is average. Yes.