Just wondering about pokemon's hype (poll)

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#1 kittykatz5k
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We're getting close to diamond pearl, I was wondering what the official hype on this is. I of coarse say AA, seeing as no other pokemon scored over and it's online is just short of dynamic, being that it doesn't let you engage in online battles without a FC (not truly at least)

 It's features are:
-Around 400 or so pokemon, so a massive selection

-Very large world, pictured below

-Limited online features (battle by friends codes, or battle a bot with a random persons' uploaded group of pokemon, if I understand correctly, as well as trading)

-Weather effects and night/day effects

-2d 3d view, kinda hard to explain


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#2 Flipnblack
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AA, but it automatically sucks because it is a Pokemon game that you can't be seen playing :roll:
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#3 Hater3000
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AA, but it automatically sucks because it is a Pokemon game that you can't be seen playing :roll:Flipnblack
Oh here we go. 400,looks good but meh who is really going to capture 400 pokemons and train them,i guess wifi FTW then.Wifi makes anything better.
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#4 Redmoonxl2
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AA for sure. Pokemon games never score well in GS. I will state that Pokemon Diamond/Pearl will be one of 2007's top 5 selling games in North America.
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[QUOTE="Flipnblack"]AA, but it automatically sucks because it is a Pokemon game that you can't be seen playing :roll:Hater3000
Oh here we go. 400,looks good but meh who is really going to capture 400 pokemons and train them,i guess wifi FTW then.Wifi makes anything better.

It wasn't exactly meant towards you, someone earlier said I must of been 10 simply because Pokemon GAMES were fun to me. As for all 400 pokemon.. that would be a bit crazy to do trying to catch them all, I would rather beef up like 50 and whoop anyone online!!
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#6 JiveT
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I wonder why somebody doesn't just rip off Pokemon completely but do it with characters and a universe that is appealing to people that are older and want a more...what's the proper word to not annoy the 40 year olds that play Pokemon...uhhh more mature visual style and storyline.
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#7 molinex
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whats all this POKEMON REVIVAL stuff ??

 i mean watch real anime like

AKIRA or SAINT SEIYA  

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#8 Flipnblack
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whats all this POKEMON REVIVAL stuff ??

 i mean watch real anime like

AKIRA or SAINT SEIYA  

molinex
We're talking games, not shows.
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#9 Redmoonxl2
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I wonder why somebody doesn't just rip off Pokemon completely but do it with characters and a universe that is appealing to people that are older and want a more...what's the proper word to not annoy the 40 year olds that play Pokemon...uhhh more mature visual style and storyline.JiveT

Where have you been? There have been plenty of Pokemon clones over the years that tried the "dark subject" route. 

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#10 Hater3000
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[QUOTE="Hater3000"][QUOTE="Flipnblack"]AA, but it automatically sucks because it is a Pokemon game that you can't be seen playing :roll:Flipnblack
Oh here we go. 400,looks good but meh who is really going to capture 400 pokemons and train them,i guess wifi FTW then.Wifi makes anything better.

It wasn't exactly meant towards you, someone earlier said I must of been 10 simply because Pokemon GAMES were fun to me. As for all 400 pokemon.. that would be a bit crazy to do trying to catch them all, I would rather beef up like 50 and whoop anyone online!!

Online Multiplayer is what makes this game good,wifi competition implies stuff like metagame and you have 400 creatures on your arsenal to wreck it. For example is th emeat is a fire leaf team you need to play the obligatory anti-meta team the meta.But you could build a good rock,(what beats leaf?) team to beat it,so you have to capture all the 400 to see which one of them can help you to wreck the meta. The first guy to wreck the meta gets automaticly on the top.
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#11 molinex
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[QUOTE="molinex"]

whats all this POKEMON REVIVAL stuff ??

i mean watch real anime like

AKIRA or SAINT SEIYA

Flipnblack
We're talking games, not shows.

pokemon its also a show isn't
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#12 Hater3000
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whats all this POKEMON REVIVAL stuff ??

 i mean watch real anime like

AKIRA or SAINT SEIYA  

molinex
Seint seiya God NOOO,please let that one die and rest in hell,I hate saint seiya more that i could hate any anime ever. Hellsing FTW.
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[QUOTE="Flipnblack"]AA, but it automatically sucks because it is a Pokemon game that you can't be seen playing :roll:Hater3000


Oh here we go.

400,looks good but meh who is really going to capture 400 pokemons and train them,i guess wifi FTW then.Wifi makes anything better.

But how can you live without a completed pokedex?

I say AA but it's still going to own. 

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#14 molinex
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[QUOTE="molinex"]

whats all this POKEMON REVIVAL stuff ??

i mean watch real anime like

AKIRA or SAINT SEIYA

Hater3000
Seint seiya God NOOO,please let that one die and rest in hell,I hate saint seiya more that i could hate any anime ever. Hellsing FTW.

cool i respect your opinion it's just that anime brings back childhood memories .
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#16 Redmoonxl2
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[QUOTE="Flipnblack"][QUOTE="molinex"]

whats all this POKEMON REVIVAL stuff ??

i mean watch real anime like

AKIRA or SAINT SEIYA

molinex



We're talking games, not shows.



pokemon its also a show isn't

 

Pokemon started as a game, not an anime.

By the way, show some respect for the show. Despite it sucking real hard as a show, it helped with making anime mainstream in America. 

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#17 Flipnblack
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[QUOTE="Flipnblack"][QUOTE="molinex"]

whats all this POKEMON REVIVAL stuff ??

i mean watch real anime like

AKIRA or SAINT SEIYA

molinex
We're talking games, not shows.

pokemon its also a show isn't

it is, but most people on here who enjoy the games hate the shows (including me) I'm just saying that people don't hype Pearl or Diamond because they can see Ash every Saturday morning...
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#18 Hater3000
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[QUOTE="Hater3000"][QUOTE="molinex"]

whats all this POKEMON REVIVAL stuff ??

i mean watch real anime like

AKIRA or SAINT SEIYA

molinex
Seint seiya God NOOO,please let that one die and rest in hell,I hate saint seiya more that i could hate any anime ever. Hellsing FTW.

cool i respect your opinion it's just that anime brings back childhood memories .

I also used to watch it and i watched all the movies,it was the sh*t back then but i watch it again and God i dont know if it was because back then there was nothing else on tv but wow it sucked. I remember it with more gore and blood i saw it again and it was lame,any FMA episode pwns it. I also have the action figures and alll that stuff.Lol
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#19 Riverwolf007
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Why dosen't every company release two versions of the same game? Doing that with the pokemom series has made it one of the biggest selling series in game history.
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#20 Riviera_Phantom
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AA. Even the BEST pokemon games Gold and Silver managed a high AA so it's almost near impossible for these games to get AAA.
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#21 Articuno76
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Sorry but the score is not gonna be AAA, maybe not even AA, GS have never rated the Pkmn games AAA. That's not to say these games won't be AAA worthy, it's just that in this exception, GS aren't worth relying on if their past track record is anything to go by.
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#22 Weslii
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I love Pokemon but GS probable gives it an A if nothing is new. So A.
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#23 FoamingPanda
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Why?  Have gamers become so sad and deluded, devoid of the ability to think and judge a game fairly, that they inflate the value of a game because of its franchise alone?  How many times, and how terribly must a game regress, until consumers WAKE UP and demand new products?

The warrant and concepts behind this game SHOULD ensure that it can't score above an 8 (even if it had flawless gameplay).  Children capturing monsters and engaging in egoistic duels for petty or fictious reasons?  And we call it "good" or "very good?"

No wonder half of society still thinks gamers are either nerds or children, =/.

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Why? Have gamers become so sad and deluded, devoid of the ability to think and judge a game fairly, that they inflate the value of a game because of its franchise alone? How many times, and how terribly must a game regress, until consumers WAKE UP and demand new products?

The warrant and concepts behind this game SHOULD ensure that it can't score above an 8 (even if it had flawless gameplay). Children capturing monsters and engaging in egoistic duels for petty or fictious reasons? And we call it "good" or "very good?"

No wonder half of society still thinks gamers are either nerds or children, =/.

FoamingPanda
wow, I think something went well over your head there.
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#25 phatkav
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Pokemon games were never about scores. They all were about sales. Look at Mystery Dungeon for example, the game got a horrible score on GS, but the sales were good for the game.
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#26 Articuno76
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Pokemon games were never about scores. They all were about sales. Look at Mystery Dungeon for example, the game got a horrible score on GS, but the sales were good for the game. phatkav
Very few people were hyping that game though. It's the core RPG's that people look forward to.
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#27 phatkav
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[QUOTE="phatkav"]Pokemon games were never about scores. They all were about sales. Look at Mystery Dungeon for example, the game got a horrible score on GS, but the sales were good for the game. Articuno76

Very few people were hyping that game though. It's the core RPG's that people look forward to.

Very true. If I would hype the game, I would give it AAA just because I can't get bored of Pokemon games. However websites like GS are already tired of the same formula so the chances of getting AAA is very slim.  

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Why?  Have gamers become so sad and deluded, devoid of the ability to think and judge a game fairly, that they inflate the value of a game because of its franchise alone?  How many times, and how terribly must a game regress, until consumers WAKE UP and demand new products?

The warrant and concepts behind this game SHOULD ensure that it can't score above an 8 (even if it had flawless gameplay).  Children capturing monsters and engaging in egoistic duels for petty or fictious reasons?  And we call it "good" or "very good?"

No wonder half of society still thinks gamers are either nerds or children, =/.

FoamingPanda

The series isn't regressing in fact I believe its improving with the addition of WiFi. The only thing I don't like is the new pokemon aren't as cool as the old ones :'(

 

Squirtle, Charizard and Pikachu,...... they were such awesome pokemon. 

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#29 Silvereign
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AA, but it automatically sucks because it is a Pokemon game that you can't be seen playing :roll:Flipnblack

 

You and the rest of the world. I remember my freind bashed me for playing gold. But when I was over his house and opened a draw looking for Soul Calibur 2. I seen the red, blue and SIlver version. I was like who's is this. He came cold.

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#30 kittykatz5k
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There's actually quite a bit new in here, seems people's main judgment on this is it isn't going to do anyhting new...
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#31 spark5050
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I think it's ridiculous why anyone is even bothered about this game. I mean POKEMON - it's made for japanese kids why do you people care, if your a respectable adult you wouldn't buy this, really I think this sums up Nintendo - designed for kids or adult nerds in your case
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#32 Flipnblack
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I think it's ridiculous why anyone is even bothered about this game. I mean POKEMON - it's made for japanese kids why do you people care, if your a respectable adult you wouldn't buy this, really I think this sums up Nintendo - designed for kids or adult nerds in your casespark5050
And saying that makes you a respectable adult... how?
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#33 kittykatz5k
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I think it's ridiculous why anyone is even bothered about this game. I mean POKEMON - it's made for japanese kids why do you people care, if your a respectable adult you wouldn't buy this, really I think this sums up Nintendo - designed for kids or adult nerds in your casespark5050

You should really act your age, mister. Assuming your age is as you speak.
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#34 Flipnblack
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[QUOTE="spark5050"]I think it's ridiculous why anyone is even bothered about this game. I mean POKEMON - it's made for japanese kids why do you people care, if your a respectable adult you wouldn't buy this, really I think this sums up Nintendo - designed for kids or adult nerds in your casekittykatz5k

You should really act your age, mister. Assuming your age is as you speak.

That's asking a bit much of him, don't you think?
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#35 Shinobishyguy
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Solid AA

Wifi could also boost the score if the features work well. 

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#36 cheezisgoooood
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My DS needs a new game--and a decent RPG.  Maybe I'll pick it up if it gets good reception from most sites.  Not expecting much from Gamespot, I voted A.
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#37 Kekira
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It'll geta AA since pokemon games don't score well here. But there is an unlimited feature in the Wi-Fi. While battling and trading requires friend codes, there is a sort of global trading place that requires no friend codes. All you need is a Wi-Fi setup and you can trade with anyone.
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#38 oback
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AA, but it automatically sucks because it is a Pokemon game that you can't be seen playing :roll:Flipnblack
grow up
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[QUOTE="Flipnblack"]AA, but it automatically sucks because it is a Pokemon game that you can't be seen playing :roll:oback
grow up

Oh dear lord, it's another one... :|
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#40 blacktorn
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It's the same old Pokemon game,it hasn't changed since red&blue back in 1998 so it will be an low-mid AA.
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Why? Have gamers become so sad and deluded, devoid of the ability to think and judge a game fairly, that they inflate the value of a game because of its franchise alone? How many times, and how terribly must a game regress, until consumers WAKE UP and demand new products?

The warrant and concepts behind this game SHOULD ensure that it can't score above an 8 (even if it had flawless gameplay). Children capturing monsters and engaging in egoistic duels for petty or fictious reasons? And we call it "good" or "very good?"

No wonder half of society still thinks gamers are either nerds or children, =/.

FoamingPanda

I have a nice word that would not only describe this post but the author himself: Pretentious. Get off your high horse, Panda.

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#42 mexicangordo
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You forgot to mention that you can chat online during battle and in the the lobby.  Anyways, i think it will be AA,  but who cares im so looking foward to this game.
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#43 kittykatz5k
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It's the same old Pokemon game,it hasn't changed since red&blue back in 1998 so it will be an low-mid AA.blacktorn

Sense red blue, loads has changed. New types, new attacks, about tripled the ammount of pokemon, new stuff to do around the world, night and day system and date tracker (yes, it affects a lot what day and time of day it is), 2 on 2 battles... do you get the point yet?

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#44 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="FoamingPanda"]

Why? Have gamers become so sad and deluded, devoid of the ability to think and judge a game fairly, that they inflate the value of a game because of its franchise alone? How many times, and how terribly must a game regress, until consumers WAKE UP and demand new products?

The warrant and concepts behind this game SHOULD ensure that it can't score above an 8 (even if it had flawless gameplay). Children capturing monsters and engaging in egoistic duels for petty or fictious reasons? And we call it "good" or "very good?"

No wonder half of society still thinks gamers are either nerds or children, =/.

Redmoonxl2

I have a nice word that would not only describe this post but the author himself: Pretentious. Get off your high horse, Panda.

nonsense! Anyone who likes nintendo is teh DEVIL RAAARARARARAGRAGGLE @_@
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#45 Kekira
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[QUOTE="blacktorn"]It's the same old Pokemon game,it hasn't changed since red&blue back in 1998 so it will be an low-mid AA.kittykatz5k

Sense red blue, loads has changed. New types, new attacks, about tripled the ammount of pokemon, new stuff to do around the world, night and day system and date tracker (yes, it affects a lot what day and time of day it is), 2 on 2 battles... do you get the point yet?

Attack categories have changed as well. You should put serebii.net in the first post, it's a good place to go for info on D/P.
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#46 Redmoonxl2
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[QUOTE="blacktorn"]It's the same old Pokemon game,it hasn't changed since red&blue back in 1998 so it will be an low-mid AA.kittykatz5k

Sense red blue, loads has changed. New types, new attacks, about tripled the ammount of pokemon, new stuff to do around the world, night and day system and date tracker (yes, it affects a lot what day and time of day it is), 2 on 2 battles... do you get the point yet?

Lets not forget other things like passives, equip-able items, breeding and Effort Values. Funny how some people consider Pokemon a game with little depth.

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AA
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#48 Homesrfan
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I said AAA because I think it will be amazing.My first pokemon game since Yellow. 
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#49 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="kittykatz5k"]

[QUOTE="blacktorn"]It's the same old Pokemon game,it hasn't changed since red&blue back in 1998 so it will be an low-mid AA.Redmoonxl2

Sense red blue, loads has changed. New types, new attacks, about tripled the ammount of pokemon, new stuff to do around the world, night and day system and date tracker (yes, it affects a lot what day and time of day it is), 2 on 2 battles... do you get the point yet?

Lets not forget other things like passives, equip-able items, breeding and Effort Values. Funny how some people consider Pokemon a game with little depth.

let me add. New type combonations *ice and grass pokemon anyone?* new moves, upgraded move pools and stats ect