K honestly, if GeOW got AAA, so should Lair

I don't like comparing two different genres but think about it:

(using GS)

GeOW gets a 9.6.

9 in gamplay- ducking behind cover and taking pot shots, enjoyable but limited multiplayer, and a whopping grand total of 8-10 different weapons (that includes the sidearms). Not to mention glitches and a short single player mode. and of course, action reload, the only thing new that game brought to the table.

Now lets look at Lair's possibilities in gameplay:

If Lair suceeds with the sixaxis motion sensing features(meaning they work well and are fun), it will be one of the first flight combat games to utilize such a device (unless the wii already has flying games, but I said ONE of the first).

In addition to the sixaxis features,  there also the STANDARD gameplay features that look MEDIOCRE at the moment:

Engage in combat on the ground

Ranged fire ball attacks

Close combat in the air between other dragons

Leap from your dragon to commandeer or kill another flyer.

Learn new attacks and maneuvers throughout the game.

Get high scores for rewards.

Multiplayer Mode (still in question but unlikely)

Now lets assume lair gets the same scores as GeOW in the other categories because that is very believeable.

All in all, Gears = mediocre gameplay with the innovative use of action reload = 9.

Lair = innovative motion control, probably mediorcre gameplay = should be 9.

I know it's weird logic, and it is probably off because they are 2 different genres, but I am hyping Lair 9.0+ if the sixaxis works out for it. If it doesn't, it will probably get a 7.something.

It will be interesting to see how GS does this.

go away u fanboyHuxley_00

not a fanboy kid, 1176 posts and u still cant make a logical argument or give a reasonable opinion? 

yawn.... stop hyping lair its been done beforeThebettertwin

If devs stopped making games that have been done before, we would all still be playing PSX and N64, calling it current gen. 

i don't favor either, but as a gamer, i hope lair will do well.

Infact i dont even own a ps3, i only have a 360. im making predictions 

[QUOTE="Thebettertwin"]yawn.... stop hyping lair its been done beforeNot-A-Stalker

If devs stopped making games that have been done before, we would all still be playing PSX and N64, calling it current gen. 

youve got a point but the original poster was making out that lair is going to be ground breaking

its obvious you havent played the game

its obvious you havent played the game

Haloissosweet_

no sh**, thats why i use the word IF in my first post. my god it's pointless to ask other people's opinions on SW... 

I just want to know what you'll do if Lair doesn't get AAA TC? Just curious :?Kook18

I would read the review, try the game myself, and draw a conclusion... 

yawn.... stop hyping lair its been done before and looks like it will be a mediocre gameThebettertwin

Yeah I would bet on high 7's, since the PS3 is a super computer it standards should be way above the 360's. With all the talk Sony gave us the games out now should all be 6 or less.

Ranged fire ball attacks

I fail to see how "Ranged fire ball attacks" are an innovative new feature. How is it different from a fireball in Oblivion? 

Ranged fire ball attacksCompression

 

I fail to see how "Ranged fire ball attacks" are an innovative new feature. How is it different from a fireball in Oblivion? 

 

All I know is the game is made by Factor Five, and that gives me a glimmer of hope.

Ranged fire ball attacksCompression

 

I fail to see how "Ranged fire ball attacks" are an innovative new feature. How is it different from a fireball in Oblivion?

 

 i didnt say it was innovative, i only said the sixaxis control was. ive lost faith in the human race.

have you seen the gameplay video. It was sooo boring

GeOW dosen't deserve AAA either

I don't like comparing two different genres but think about it:

(using GS)

GeOW gets a 9.6.

9 in gamplay- ducking behind cover and taking pot shots, enjoyable but limited multiplayer, and a whopping grand total of 8-10 different weapons (that includes the sidearms). Not to mention glitches and a short single player mode. and of course, action reload, the only thing new that game brought to the table.

Now lets look at Lair's possibilities in gameplay:

If Lair suceeds with the sixaxis motion sensing features(meaning they work well and are fun), it will be one of the first flight combat games to utilize such a device (unless the wii already has flying games, but I said ONE of the first).

In addition to the sixaxis features you will also be able too:

Engage in combat on the ground

Ranged fire ball attacks

Close combat in the air between other dragons

Leap from your dragon to commandeer or kill another flyer.

Learn new attacks and maneuvers throughout the game.

Get high scores for rewards.

Multiplayer Mode (still in question but unlikely)

 

Now lets assume lair gets the same scores as GeOW in the other categories because that is very believeable.

All in all, Gears = mediocre gameplay with the innovative use of action reload = 9.

Lair = innovative motion control, probably mediorcre gameplay = should be 9.

 

I know it's weird logic, and it is probably off because they are 2 different genres, but I am hyping Lair 9.0+ if the sixaxis works out for it. If it doesn't, it will probably get a 7.something.

It will be interesting to see how GS does this.

 

Koalakommander

Mediocre gameplay? geow did EVERYTHING right with the gameplay, thats why the freaking game stands OUT while Lair DOES NOT STANDS OUT yet (cuz it's not out), the gameplay looks downstraig awful and repetitive and graphiclly it isn't impressive, Imo the textures need a lot of work so does the geometry, and the particle effects, and they should make it look not that washed out. 

To start things off, you should put "Now I haven't played either of the 2 games but... -insert fanboy statements here-"MTBare

exactly!

ahah 

Lair = Motorstorm with dragons

End of Thread.

[QUOTE="Koalakommander"]

I don't like comparing two different genres but think about it:

(using GS)

GeOW gets a 9.6.

9 in gamplay- ducking behind cover and taking pot shots, enjoyable but limited multiplayer, and a whopping grand total of 8-10 different weapons (that includes the sidearms). Not to mention glitches and a short single player mode. and of course, action reload, the only thing new that game brought to the table.

Now lets look at Lair's possibilities in gameplay:

If Lair suceeds with the sixaxis motion sensing features(meaning they work well and are fun), it will be one of the first flight combat games to utilize such a device (unless the wii already has flying games, but I said ONE of the first).

In addition to the sixaxis features you will also be able too:

Engage in combat on the ground

Ranged fire ball attacks

Close combat in the air between other dragons

Leap from your dragon to commandeer or kill another flyer.

Learn new attacks and maneuvers throughout the game.

Get high scores for rewards.

Multiplayer Mode (still in question but unlikely)

 

Now lets assume lair gets the same scores as GeOW in the other categories because that is very believeable.

All in all, Gears = mediocre gameplay with the innovative use of action reload = 9.

Lair = innovative motion control, probably mediorcre gameplay = should be 9.

 

I know it's weird logic, and it is probably off because they are 2 different genres, but I am hyping Lair 9.0+ if the sixaxis works out for it. If it doesn't, it will probably get a 7.something.

It will be interesting to see how GS does this.

 

-KinGz-

Mediocre gameplay? geow did EVERYTHING right with the gameplay, thats why the freaking game stands OUT while Lair DOES NOT STANDS OUT yet (cuz it's not out), the gameplay looks downstraig awful and repetitive and graphiclly it isn't impressive, Imo the textures need a lot of work so does the geometry, and the particle effects, and they should make it look not that washed out.

well besides the fact that i said lair's gameplay looked mediocre except for the six axis control, and i also said gears was mediocre gameplay except for the innovative reload feature, lets look at GeOW's non reptitive exciting gameplay.

duck,shoot,duck,shoot,duck,shoot,duck,shoot,CHHHHAIIIINNNSAWWWWWW,duck,shoot,duck, shoot, vehicle sequence (pokemon snap except you shoot the monsters instead of taking pics of them), duck, shoot, duck, shoot, duck, shoot. End of game, in which you only tried a total of 8 different weapons.

GS- "were gonna give that a 9"

that is why lair has a chance.

I can play too!!

If Warioware got AAA, so should half the games out there.   

I can play too!!

 

If Warioware got AAA, so should half the games out there.

rykaziel

you gave no reasons to back up your statement kid. 

Well considering the Sixaxis struggles to keep up with the Nunchuk in Tilt sensing controls, I doubt that it will be a positive on its scores.

Also something almost no GS users understand is that when you rate a game you cant compare it to another game in a TOTALLY different genre. GeoW is a TPS and that genre had been lacking in alot of ways. Geow while not being anything amazing made a very organized and precise TPS, something we dont often see with that genre. Lair on the other hand is an Action game. We have SOOOO many good action games its hard to make something new and good at the same time.

The same thing happened with Wario Ware and LoZ:TP. Obviously TP is a much better game but Wario Ware was a huge leap for its limited genre. You see what Im saying? So dont get your hopes up.

Ranged fire ball attacksCompression

 

I fail to see how "Ranged fire ball attacks" are an innovative new feature. How is it different from a fireball in Oblivion?

 

I fail to see why every feature except the jumping from a dragon to another is innovative. 

Well considering the Sixaxis struggles to keep up with the Nunchuk in Tilt sensing controls, I doubt that it will be a positive on its scores.

Also something almost no GS users understand is that when you rate a game you cant compare it to another game in a TOTALLY different genre. GeoW is a TPS and that genre had been lacking in alot of ways. Geow while not being anything amazing made a very organized and precise TPS, something we dont often see with that genre. Lair on the other hand is an Action game. We have SOOOO many good action games its hard to make something new and good at the same time.

The same thing happened with Wario Ware and LoZ:TP. Obviously TP is a much better game but Wario Ware was a huge leap for its limited genre. You see what Im saying? So dont get your hopes up.

coonana

good point, i knew it was a stretch when i started the topic. 

[QUOTE="Kook18"]I just want to know what you'll do if Lair doesn't get AAA TC? Just curious :?Koalakommander

I would read the review, try the game myself, and draw a conclusion...

[QUOTE="Compression"]

Ranged fire ball attacks-KinGz-

 

I fail to see how "Ranged fire ball attacks" are an innovative new feature. How is it different from a fireball in Oblivion?

 

I fail to see why every feature except the jumping from a dragon to another is innovative.

for the second time, i didnt say that feature was innovative, i specifically said that the six axis was innovative. 

Lair = Motorstorm with dragons

End of Thread.

Nugtoka

To start things off, you should put "Now I haven't played either of the 2 games but... -insert fanboy statements here-"MTBare

and

Lair = Motorstorm with dragons

End of Thread.

Nugtoka

/thread

[QUOTE="MTBare"]To start things off, you should put "Now I haven't played either of the 2 games but... -insert fanboy statements here-"TheDarkDisciple

and

Lair = Motorstorm with dragons

End of Thread.

Nugtoka

/thread

you are bad at everything you do. 

I can play too!!

 

If Warioware got AAA, so should half the games out there.   

rykaziel

Warioware is an awesome game

[QUOTE="TheDarkDisciple"]

[QUOTE="MTBare"]To start things off, you should put "Now I haven't played either of the 2 games but... -insert fanboy statements here-"Koalakommander

and

Lair = Motorstorm with dragons

End of Thread.

Nugtoka

/thread

you are bad at everything you do.

He's obviously pretty good at getting users named koalakommander to respond to him.

Saying Sixaxis and "works well" in the same sentence doesn't make sense unless you dropped the s in works and put the words "does not" in the middle.nyoroism

[QUOTE="TheDarkDisciple"]

[QUOTE="MTBare"]To start things off, you should put "Now I haven't played either of the 2 games but... -insert fanboy statements here-"Koalakommander

and

Lair = Motorstorm with dragons

End of Thread.

Nugtoka

/thread

you are bad at everything you do. 

what? did i make you mad?

you really gave no reason why Lair could be as good as GeOW. All you did was say "You can get off the dragon run around and hit someone". Since you obviously haven't played GeOW by the way you described it, a lot of people will say it's a fun and addicting game regardless of the short single-player like you hear all about on the SW.

[QUOTE="nyoroism"]Saying Sixaxis and "works well" in the same sentence doesn't make sense unless you dropped the s in works and put the words "does not" in the middle.ko_threat

[QUOTE="Koalakommander"][QUOTE="TheDarkDisciple"]

[QUOTE="MTBare"]To start things off, you should put "Now I haven't played either of the 2 games but... -insert fanboy statements here-"TheDarkDisciple

and

Lair = Motorstorm with dragons

End of Thread.

Nugtoka

/thread

you are bad at everything you do.

what? did i make you mad?

you really gave no reason why Lair could be as good as GeOW. All you did was say "You can get off the dragon run around and hit someone". Since you obviously haven't played GeOW by the way you described it, a lot of people will say it's a fun and addicting game regardless of the short single-player like you hear all about on the SW.

i have playe GeOW and still do, my XBL tag is KoalaKommander. I don't even own a PS3. I said Lair looks like it will have mediocre gameplay as well. Reading comprenhension is also something your bad at.

for the second time, i didnt say that feature was innovative, i specifically said that the six axis was innovative.

Koalakommander

This is what you said

In addition to the sixaxis features you will also be able too:

Which implied that you thought Ranged Fireballs were at least a "Pretty Cool" "Feature," if not innovative. Which is like saying being able to reload your gun is a "Pretty Cool" feature.

[QUOTE="Koalakommander"]

for the second time, i didnt say that feature was innovative, i specifically said that the six axis was innovative.

Compression

This is what you said

In addition to the sixaxis features you will also be able too:

Which implied that you thought Ranged Fireballs were at least a "Pretty Cool" "Feature," if not innovative. Which is like saying being able to reload your gun is a "Pretty Cool" feature.

im sorry u took it in that way, ill edit it to simplify it for you.

[QUOTE="TheDarkDisciple"][QUOTE="Koalakommander"][QUOTE="TheDarkDisciple"]

[QUOTE="MTBare"]To start things off, you should put "Now I haven't played either of the 2 games but... -insert fanboy statements here-"Koalakommander

and

Lair = Motorstorm with dragons

End of Thread.

Nugtoka

/thread

you are bad at everything you do.

what? did i make you mad?

you really gave no reason why Lair could be as good as GeOW. All you did was say "You can get off the dragon run around and hit someone". Since you obviously haven't played GeOW by the way you described it, a lot of people will say it's a fun and addicting game regardless of the short single-player like you hear all about on the SW.

i have playe GeOW and still do, my XBL tag is KoalaKommander. I don't even own a PS3. I said Lair looks like it will have mediocre gameplay as well. Reading comprenhension is also something your bad at.

actually i read the topic just fine. You were saying Lair will be as good as GeOW, an AAA game, then you go and say it's mediocre? you just don't make any sense..