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#1  Edited By uninspiredcup
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Good news for people who hating on Suicide The Justice League Unlimited. It's a disaster. Warn A Bro less likely to scam people due to them playing other games. Very sad.

This was expected. They expected it. And the thing happened.

Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League ‘Has Fallen Short of Our Expectations’, Warner Bros. Says

Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League "has fallen short of our expectations", Warner Bros. Discovery has said.

Speaking during a financial call, Warner Bros. Discovery Chief Financial Officer, Gunnar Wiedenfels, admitted Rocksteady’s game hadn’t done the business the company had hoped for since going on sale on February 2 priced $70, saying it had “fallen short of our expectations.”

Warner Bros. Discovery failed to mention a sales figure for Rocksteady’s game, but did say Suicide Squad’s failure had set up the company’s games business for a “tough” year-on-year comparison. Last year, Warner Bros. Discovery released Hogwarts Legacy, which went on to become the best-selling game of 2023.

"This year, Suicide Squad, one of our key video game releases in 2024, has fallen short of our expectations since its release earlier in the quarter, setting our games business up for a tough year-over-year comp in Q1," Wiedenfels said.

Warner Bros. Discovery's comment perhaps doesn't come as much surprise, given Suicide Squad's high-profile struggles. On Steam, the live service action game peaked with 13,459 concurrent players, a figure that has fallen dramatically since launch. At the time of this article's publication, just 480 people were playing the game on Valve's platform, with a 24-hour peak of 888.

IGN's Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League review returned a 5/10. We called it "a repetitive and bland looter-shooter that, despite an engaging story, never stays fun for long enough."

There’s much we don’t know about Rocksteady’s long-term plan for Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League, although we do know Joker is set to appear as a playable character. IGN has reported on how a Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League player had unearthed a hidden message that looked like a strong hint at the return of Batman. Datamining has shown strong hints that Flash and Green Lantern are set to return in some form. Other playable characters suspected to be on their way include Mrs Freeze (Nora Fries), Lawless, and Deathstroke.

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I'm still waiting for my copy from wenzen.

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#3  Edited By uninspiredcup
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I guess this is defacto the end of the Arkham universe.

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Good

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#5  Edited By hardwenzen
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And its crazy to think that we have live service titles like Helldivers 2 and Skull N Bones/Suicide Squad coming out almost at the same time. The difference in quality AND price is insane. And i shittalked the game so much on gamefaqs they banned my account for a month😁

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#6 R4gn4r0k
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Suicide squad commited suicide.

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#7  Edited By GirlUSoCrazy
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Shame that it came to this. Hopefully a warning to publishers wanting to manufacture service games when people don't really want to play that way. Hope the developer will be ok, and that they can respond to what the community wants and fix the game.

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Go woke go broker than broke.

Good to see.

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#9  Edited By lamprey263
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I'll play if it comes to Game Pass, just for story. Not spending money on game though as it just doesn't look like the kind of game I wanna log into daily for next several months like it appears WB wants the game to be. The gameplay looks uninspired and soulless, like they wanted to just mimic live service banger like Fortnite with some cartoony shooter combat, boo.

And especially not when there's lots of other games out there I have way more interest in playing, so many I can't even get to all of those.

Wokeness has nothing to do with it and the things people call woke wouldn't stop me from playing a game, since people call everything woke from as simple as having a female lead, a person of color in game, giving a gay/lesbian character, whatever.

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#10  Edited By hardwenzen
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And lets not forget, they took an additional year, and THIS is the final product. What other game took an additional year? Oh yea! Starfield🤭 What else? Oh yea!!! Halo Infinite🤭So next time you hear someone damage controlling with "it gives em more time for polishing and add new content", remind them of these three dumpster fires.

When a game looks like dogshit during their reveal, THIS is what's intended by the developer. This is what they genuinely thought was a good enough product to be released. Them delaying it won't change anything, its just an illusion of hope.

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#11 Vaasman
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I believe the correct term is The Unalive Crew.

Pretty sure this has nothing to do with being "woke" though. It's just a boring, ugly, creatively bankrupt game from a genre where heavy fatigue has already set in. BG3 is "woke" as shit and has boatloads of players months after launch.

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#12  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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What is “woke” about this game?

Was Harley transgender? Was Batman black? Was Robin gay?

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#13  Edited By R4gn4r0k
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Who cares about season 1? There are better clowns anyway. Movie studios tend to overrate the lasting power of their IP.

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#14  Edited By hardwenzen
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@Vaasman said:

I believe the correct term is The Unalive Crew.

Pretty sure this has nothing to do with being "woke" though. It's just a boring, ugly, creatively bankrupt game from a genre where heavy fatigue has already set in. BG3 is "woke" as shit and has boatloads of players months after launch.

Everyone says that there's this fatigue in the live service genre, but as Helldivers2 has proven (and really, you didn't need Helldivers 2 to see this), it has nothing to do with the fatigue, but the quality of every god damn live service title that's coming out. Every single of these shit games are built from the grounds up around a store, and not a solid gameplay foundation. And because all these GaaS titles are "developed" by suits, chances of seeing quality is like one out of one hundred. Logging in into a game three months after lauch, and know that your game will be supported with quality content even two years from now, is great, but when that support is nothing but shitty skins and low effort quests like what Destiny 2 offers, i mean f*ck me, that's not a video game, its just a store pretending to be a video game.

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@hardwenzen said:
@Vaasman said:

I believe the correct term is The Unalive Crew.

Pretty sure this has nothing to do with being "woke" though. It's just a boring, ugly, creatively bankrupt game from a genre where heavy fatigue has already set in. BG3 is "woke" as shit and has boatloads of players months after launch.

Everyone says that there's this fatigue in the live service genre, but as Helldivers2 has proven (and really, you didn't need Helldivers 2 to see this), it has nothing to do with the fatigue, but the quality of every god damn live service title that's coming out. Every single of these shit games are built from the grounds up around a store, and not a solid gameplay foundation. And because all these GaaS titles are "developed" by suits, chances of seeing quality is like one out of one hundred. Logging in into a game three months after lauch, and know that your game will be supported with quality content even two years from now, is great, but when that support is nothing but shitty skins and low effort quests like what Destiny 2 offers, i mean f*ck me, that's not a video game, its just a store pretending to be a video game.

Live service game in the eyes of a small time dev that just wants to make a cool game:

Fun gameplay mechanics and it happens to have a battle pass attached

Live service game in the eyes of a AAA publisher that just wants to make money:

Second or third job that constantly requires you to log in, to grind, to do chores, to do boring samey missions.

Nobody likes a requirement, a game that makes you do things, one that forces you. Look at Diablo IV, it's not even a fun game, it's just a grind.

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#16 Pedro
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This game is woke? How?

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@HalcyonScarlet said:

What is “woke” about this game?

Was Harley transgener? Was Batman black? Was Robin gay?

Right? I haven't been following this game since it looked boring, so maybe there is something there I don't know about. But from where I'm standing, this seems like Forspoken all over again. Like the internet just throws the term at anything that looks bad, so they can pat themselves on the back when it bombs.

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#18 Vaasman
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@Pedro said:

This game is woke? How?

@HalcyonScarlet said:

What is “woke” about this game?

Was Harley transgener? Was Batman black? Was Robin gay?

One of the main characters is a shark.

I'm tired of the shark agenda ruining every game.

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@HalcyonScarlet said:

What is “woke” about this game?

Was Harley transgener? Was Batman black? Was Robin gay?

People who are still asking just want to stay ignorant. You could make the choice to inform yourself and actually debate the subject properly, but you don't want to. Be the ignoramus.

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#20  Edited By Pedro
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@Vaasman: Freaking shark people. lol

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@palasta said:

You could make the choice to inform yourself and actually debate the subject properly, but you don't want to.

Wokesters in a nutshell.

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#22  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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Show some respect to King Shark. He's a Shark after all...a much better Street Shark that is😅

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#23  Edited By Robertos
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@nod_calypse said:

Go woke go broker than broke.

Good to see.

Didn't it flop because of really bad gameplay (meaningless and soulless looter shooter) and nothing to really do with wokeness? Or is that just a meme now to call anything bad as "woke", no matter what.

@palasta said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:

What is “woke” about this game?

Was Harley transgener? Was Batman black? Was Robin gay?

People who are still asking just want to stay ignorant. You could make the choice to inform yourself and actually debate the subject properly, but you don't want to. Be the ignoramus.

Which had absolutely nothing to do with why the game was horrible. You failed to debate the subject properly. He asked a very simple question about a specific topic most normal well adjusted people probably have no clue about.

I've informed myself and read most of the negative reviews for this game, including GameSpot's. They didn't mention anything about politics, nor that being the reason for the low score or even story. The game did bad because of poor gameplay and monetization.

Suicide Squad: Kill The Justice League Review - Loot World Order - GameSpot

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Those shark people ain’t gonna push their agenda on me! No siree! Homey don’t play that.

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#25  Edited By Last_Lap
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@hardwenzen: Why are you ignoring post #2 for?

I'm waiting for my copy you said you were going to gift me.

Not a man of your word huh, no real surprise there.

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@last_lap said:

@hardwenzen: Why are you ignoring post #2 for?

I'm waiting for my copy you said you were going to gift me.

Not a man of your word huh, no real surprise there.

Firstly, you need to quote me so i know you're talking about me🤷‍♂️Secondly, i was gonna gift it to you, but as we've learned yesterday, you're in the stage 3 of leaving gaming, and i don't think its worth it anymore for me to waste money for you to install it, and not even play the damn thing.

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@Archangel3371 said:

Those shark people ain’t gonna push their agenda on me! No siree! Homey don’t play that.

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#28  Edited By judaspete
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@nod_calypse: @palasta: Ok. I spent extensive minutes researching this on duckduckgo, and found people are upset about a rainbow banner at the Hall of Justice, and that Harley Quinn is the one who kills Batman. Are these the things that make it woke, or is there more?

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#29 mrbojangles25
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Apparently everyone saw this coming though.

Don't worry guys, WB will definitely learn the wrong lesson from this 🙄

@hardwenzen said:
@Vaasman said:

I believe the correct term is The Unalive Crew.

Pretty sure this has nothing to do with being "woke" though. It's just a boring, ugly, creatively bankrupt game from a genre where heavy fatigue has already set in. BG3 is "woke" as shit and has boatloads of players months after launch.

Everyone says that there's this fatigue in the live service genre, but as Helldivers2 has proven (and really, you didn't need Helldivers 2 to see this), it has nothing to do with the fatigue, but the quality of every god damn live service title that's coming out. Every single of these shit games are built from the grounds up around a store, and not a solid gameplay foundation. And because all these GaaS titles are "developed" by suits, chances of seeing quality is like one out of one hundred. Logging in into a game three months after lauch, and know that your game will be supported with quality content even two years from now, is great, but when that support is nothing but shitty skins and low effort quests like what Destiny 2 offers, i mean f*ck me, that's not a video game, its just a store pretending to be a video game.

The thing about Helldivers 2's service is that it runs in the background, it's not predatory or intrusive. It's there if you want it ("it" being the services, i.e. things to buy).

With essentially all other service-based games, it's incredibly in your face. "HEY LOOK AT THIS!" or "GOOD JOB! BUT YOU COULD DO BETTER WITH THIS *insert purchasable item*" Often times after booting up the game you have to look at AT LEAST one page of crap to buy before you can even get into the main menu.

Helldiver's 2 is a game with a live-service attached; others are services with games attached. The former is better than the latter.

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#30  Edited By LuxuryHeart
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@HalcyonScarlet said:

What is “woke” about this game?

Was Harley transgener? Was Batman black? Was Robin gay?

I guess Harley Quinn might be playable or something. Maybe the game made her ugly. I don't know. The anti-woke brigade is triggered by everything, so it could be anything at this point.

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@judaspete said:

@nod_calypse: @palasta: Ok. I spent extensive minutes researching this on duckduckgo, and found people are upset about a rainbow banner at the Hall of Justice, and that Harley Quinn is the one who kills Batman. Are these the things that make it woke, or is there more?

Bro, the anti-woke brigade is triggered by a flag and a woman killing a guy? Take in mind, Call of Duty Black Ops had Swastikas and a zombie trying to kill a woman (Sarah Michelle Gellar), and the "woke" didn't make a single complaint.

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#32  Edited By Last_Lap
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@hardwenzen said:
@last_lap said:

@hardwenzen: Why are you ignoring post #2 for?

I'm waiting for my copy you said you were going to gift me.

Not a man of your word huh, no real surprise there.

Firstly, you need to quote me so i know you're talking about me🤷‍♂️Secondly, i was gonna gift it to you, but as we've learned yesterday, you're in the stage 3 of leaving gaming, and i don't think its worth it anymore for me to waste money for you to install it, and not even play the damn thing.

Firstly, I don't need to quote you, when you follow me around like a lost puppy dog, and I know you saw my post but was trying to ignore it.

Secondly, you talk a small game and can't even back it up. But you didn't think your troll through (like always) so i'm still calling you out, where's my game?

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#33  Edited By hardwenzen
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@mrbojangles25 said:

Apparently everyone saw this coming though.

Don't worry guys, WB will definitely learn the wrong lesson from this 🙄

@hardwenzen said:
@Vaasman said:

I believe the correct term is The Unalive Crew.

Pretty sure this has nothing to do with being "woke" though. It's just a boring, ugly, creatively bankrupt game from a genre where heavy fatigue has already set in. BG3 is "woke" as shit and has boatloads of players months after launch.

Everyone says that there's this fatigue in the live service genre, but as Helldivers2 has proven (and really, you didn't need Helldivers 2 to see this), it has nothing to do with the fatigue, but the quality of every god damn live service title that's coming out. Every single of these shit games are built from the grounds up around a store, and not a solid gameplay foundation. And because all these GaaS titles are "developed" by suits, chances of seeing quality is like one out of one hundred. Logging in into a game three months after lauch, and know that your game will be supported with quality content even two years from now, is great, but when that support is nothing but shitty skins and low effort quests like what Destiny 2 offers, i mean f*ck me, that's not a video game, its just a store pretending to be a video game.

The thing about Helldivers 2's service is that it runs in the background, it's not predatory or intrusive. It's there if you want it ("it" being the services, i.e. things to buy).

With essentially all other service-based games, it's incredibly in your face. "HEY LOOK AT THIS!" or "GOOD JOB! BUT YOU COULD DO BETTER WITH THIS *insert purchasable item*" Often times after booting up the game you have to look at AT LEAST one page of crap to buy before you can even get into the main menu.

Helldiver's 2 is a game with a live-service attached; others are services with games attached. The former is better than the latter.

Of course. Helldivers2 is a video game with some mtx, while the large majority (not all, tho. games like monster hunter world did the live service part pretty well, too) of live service titles are just an mtx store with some meaningless gameplay built around it, which is, in most cases, grindy chores to keep you busy for hundreds of hours. They offer no gameplay worthwhile, and people are not only them, but spend $10-20++ per mtx skin. Makes me wonder if some are just conditioned to accept this kind of garbage because ever since they got into gaming, that's all they've seen.

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@last_lap said:
@hardwenzen said:
@last_lap said:

@hardwenzen: Why are you ignoring post #2 for?

I'm waiting for my copy you said you were going to gift me.

Not a man of your word huh, no real surprise there.

Firstly, you need to quote me so i know you're talking about me🤷‍♂️Secondly, i was gonna gift it to you, but as we've learned yesterday, you're in the stage 3 of leaving gaming, and i don't think its worth it anymore for me to waste money for you to install it, and not even play the damn thing.

Firstly, I don't need to quote you, when you follow me around like a lost puppy dog, and I know you saw my post but was trying to ignore it.

Secondly, you talk a small game and can't even back it up. But you didn't think your troll through (like always) so i'm still calling you out, where's my game?

Firstly, i am not a puppet dog. We don't have these in Canada, and you offend me by the fact that you didn't know something this obvious.

Secondly, YOU DO NOT DESERVE TO PLAY IT. Even that mess of a title, you don't deserve it. Do you understand??? You deserve to play 1/10 and 2/10 games, that's it. This is your punishment for thinking of going retro.

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@hardwenzen said:
@last_lap said:
@hardwenzen said:
@last_lap said:

@hardwenzen: Why are you ignoring post #2 for?

I'm waiting for my copy you said you were going to gift me.

Not a man of your word huh, no real surprise there.

Firstly, you need to quote me so i know you're talking about me🤷‍♂️Secondly, i was gonna gift it to you, but as we've learned yesterday, you're in the stage 3 of leaving gaming, and i don't think its worth it anymore for me to waste money for you to install it, and not even play the damn thing.

Firstly, I don't need to quote you, when you follow me around like a lost puppy dog, and I know you saw my post but was trying to ignore it.

Secondly, you talk a small game and can't even back it up. But you didn't think your troll through (like always) so i'm still calling you out, where's my game?

Firstly, i am not a puppet dog. We don't have these in Canada, and you offend me by the fact that you didn't know something this obvious.

Secondly, YOU DO NOT DESERVE TO PLAY IT. Even that mess of a title, you don't deserve it. Do you understand??? You deserve to play 1/10 and 2/10 games, that's it. This is your punishment for thinking of going retro.

💩 troll is 💩 troll.

Puppy, not puppet.

When you're ready to gift me the game just message me your Xbox gamertag on here, when I see its legit, I will message you and you can gift me the game.

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#36 HalcyonScarlet
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@Vaasman: Racist… And don’t tell me some of your best friends are sharks. Or you used to date a hammer head. 😜

Jokes aside we’re all sick of the shark agenda “the great white”, “make our oceans great white again” sharks. 😁

Kidding, before anyone takes me seriously. 🤪

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#37 st_monica
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Except for the fact that the studio is not "woke" at all, haha.

https://kotaku.com/rocksteady-suicide-squad-batman-arkham-sexism-writer-1849558064
https://kotaku.com/rocksteady-suicide-squad-batman-arkham-sexism-writer-1849558064

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Rocksteady and Warner Bros did a great job on killing the entire Arkham series.

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#39  Edited By st_monica
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@hardwenzen said:

Good

lol. But it is totally understandable because of the poor quality and shitty monetization mechanics. Plus, according to DF, the PC port is yet another unoptimized stuttering mess.

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#40 madrocketeer
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Obvious cash grab goes down in flames as obvious cash grabs should.

People aren't sick of live services, as the people playing Helldivers 2 and still playing the likes of Path of Exile and Warframe demonstrates. People are just sick of live services that cram itself into an already crowded market, look like obvious cash grabs, and have nothing new to offer.

Helldivers 2 is a game first, live service second. Suicide Squad looks like the opposite. That's the difference.

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#41 LuxuryHeart
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@st_monica said:

Except for the fact that the studio is not "woke" at all, haha.

https://kotaku.com/rocksteady-suicide-squad-batman-arkham-sexism-writer-1849558064
https://kotaku.com/rocksteady-suicide-squad-batman-arkham-sexism-writer-1849558064

Tbh, everything is "woke" to these people. I've said that GTA: San Andreas would be considered "woke" today.

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#42 hardwenzen
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Don't get it mistaken, Suicide Squad is beyond woke.

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#43 Ghosts4ever
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Every year one game become worst of year and it definitely live service game.

im not surprise game failed. killed rocksteady.

2015 Arkham knight was amazing.

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#44 getyeryayasout
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If this were a game based on original IP rather than established super hero IP, it would be doing 1,000 x better than it is. I hope developers understand this.

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#45 Chutebox
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Is suicide squad supposed to look like a fortnite skin?

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#46  Edited By hardwenzen
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@Chutebox said:

Is suicide squad supposed to look like a fortnite skin?

The demographic they wanted to attract are the kind of people that don't pay attention to anything, and just buy whatever is marketed to them. That failed because there was so much negativity surrounding this game on twitter and youtube that it ruined their plan lmao.

Just look at this if you haven't seen it before. The animation of Harley attack with her baseball bat, and the way enemies react (and lol that tree breaking looks like its straight up from the ps2 era) at 2:42 is ridiculous. How can a multi million dollars company think that this is remotely acceptable for 2023 standards? This is the live service standards for you.

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#47 Chutebox
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@hardwenzen: Watched some of that video, didn't get to the tree because it looked so bad I stopped watching.

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#48  Edited By deactivated-6717e99227ada
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What? I knew that they forcing their woke shark agenda down our throats was going to make them broke. It's a shame because the gameplay is absolutely fantastic, not utter shit, at all.

Please WB make sure you keep exploiting gamers in more respectful and conservative ways. Maybe a game that you play as Jesus and slap women until they go back to the kitchen. Just make sure Jesus has blue eyes and blond hair, for historical accuracy.

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#49  Edited By hardwenzen
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@Chutebox said:

@hardwenzen: Watched some of that video, didn't get to the tree because it looked so bad I stopped watching.

Multi million dollars company was in charge btw. Like what? Nine years of development? Really is pathetic.

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#50 freedomfreak
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Pertinent.