Killing Floor 2 dev: The X1X is not powerful enough.

Throw another dev on the pile who has come out to say that the X1X fails in the 4k department. Killing Floor 2, according to the developer, suffers "significant frame rate drop" when trying to run in 4k on the X1X. As such, the game will run at 1800p on the X1X. MS's "true 4k" console sure is having a lot of problems with living up to that title.

http://comicbook.com/gaming/2017/07/30/xbox-one-x-not-powerful-enough-to-run-killing-floor-2-in-full-4k/

From the article:

Since unveiling the Xbox One X at E3 2017, Microsoft has done plenty of boasting about the system’s power, but it seems the system may not be quite as thoroughly future-proofed as the company claims it is. The Xbox One X isn’t even out yet, and developers are already bumping up against the edges of what it’s capable of.

According to Killing Floor 2 developer Tripwire Interactive, the Xbox One X is very easy to work with, but it doesn’t have the power to play their game in full 4k resolution (2160p) without sacrificing framerate…

“Killing Floor 2 runs at native 1800p [...] on Xbox One X. We did experiment with true 4k rendering, but the frame rate drop was a bit too significant. We don’t have a specific frame rate target for XBox One X, although the game does run at higher frame rates than the base Xbox One, even at 1800p resolution."

Microsoft is releasing a PS4 Pro a year late for $100 more. We all know this.

I already knew that. That's why I can't wait for November so it can flop in sales and performance. Then we can lay this "world's most powerful console" bs to rest lol

But it is the worlds most power console. How are the sales going to dismiss that fact?

Too bad we're not seeing any evidence of that.

Means little to me, just like the PS4 and the XOne cannot do 1080P native on every single game, I was not expecting Native 4K on every single XOneX game, to expect that would have been very naive and unrealistic.

Furthermore, you have to remember that Microsoft kept saying that it was the devs that kept telling them 6TF is what you need for true 4K, so according to them they came up with the X1X specs based on dev feedback, and based on everything I've read, it will be significantly more powerful than the base XOne and all games will be either Native 4K or upscaled to 4K, thus a 4K TV is necessary to get the most out of the XOneX.

Basically, this thread changes ziltch for me, but you guys can keep trying every week it's going to be a long, long stretch of time until November when the most powerful console ever conceived will release.

@NathanDrakeSwag: I mean, it IS the world's most powerful console. I haven't followed this game, but presumably it is running at higher settings than the Pro, thus providing said evidence. Whether it's worth the extra $100 is a different thing, which will vary from person to person of course

So you're trying to say the multiplats will all run the same with the exact same settings on the Pro? Hasn't it already been proven the X1X is significantly more powerful. Most games can't even come close to 4K on the Pro.

Let's not confuse lack of some devs to hit 4K to the Pro being the equivalent in terms of power. The numbers and multiplats don't back you up

I see the TC is still obsessed over the it because for someone that doesn't care, you sure do create and respond in a lot of topics dedicated to it.

@NathanDrakeSwag: It's beating the previous most powerful console in terms of performance. Therefore, it is the most powerful console. I don't see the debate here.

Xbox One fauX strikes again. Let's remember the lemmings (@kuu2@Antwan3K) who said the majority of games would be in native 4k and that anything less is a sorry excuse for a console and should be called FauxK.

Also let's give a shout to Ron "Charts" Valencia (@ronvalencia) for claiming over and over and over and over... and over and over and over that the X1X will be equivalent to the GTX 1070 (also to the GTX 1080 before that). Here it is running on GTX1070 in 4k

Still the most powerful I'll own. Looking forward to it.

It seems this is the ONLY way cows can make themselves feel better. They no longer have the most powerful console and will be 3rd in multiplat graphics. Their only recourse is to bash the " True 4K" line from MS and claim victory even though every multiplat will look better than it's Pro counter part. It's hilarious to see

I mean native 1800p is higher than 1800cb that pro runs it on?

I don't see any frame-rates being shown? You are a butthurt Cow that knows the OneX is going to be the most powerful console for the next few years.

The dev got this running at 1800P in 4 hours without any XB1X Optimizations. They did that while improving the frame rate, Shadows and Draw distance. Surely they could've kept the same settings and improved the Resolution. Also Suspect is the Fact the PS4 Pro version can't even handle 1800P. Pro's version is Checker Boarded 1800P which tells me that the Pro version is most likely holding back the XB1X version but the Developer is trying to Pre Damage Control the situation with the XB1X so Fanboys don't get Crazy about it.

Savage

Out of interest, will we get the same threads for games that do hit native 4?K??

It's a console that costs $500... WTF are people expecting? If you want proper 4K/60fps, you have to game on PC. It won't be cheap either. You get what you pay for.

Stop living in denial lemming. Here another video. You can search them, there are plenty

I'm sure a lemming will take care of doing those 3 threads.

@kingtito: Google threads from the start of the gen. It was paraded that ps4 was factually stronger. 1.8 > 1.3 Tflops. But now somehow 6 > 4.2 is in question?

LOL. There's no conspiracy dude, the X1X is just too weak for native 4k like everyone with a brain has been saying since the start.

Good points but from what I have seen 4k 60fps too much to ask. Still early and things could change but probably not 4k 60fps.

This game looks insane. I hope its good.

@pinkanimal said:

@EG101 said:

The dev got this running at 1800P in 4 hours without any XB1X Optimizations. They did that while improving the frame rate, Shadows and Draw distance. Surely they could've kept the same settings and improved the Resolution. Also Suspect is the Fact the PS4 Pro version can't even handle 1800P. Pro's version is Checker Boarded 1800P which tells me that the Pro version is most likely holding back the XB1X version but the Developer is trying to Pre Damage Control the situation with the XB1X so Fanboys don't get Crazy about it.

LOL. There's no conspiracy dude, the X1X is just too weak for native 4k like everyone with a brain has been saying since the start.

Yup Devs are saints they don't ever lie.....

Good old reduck doing her cow duty, Keep up the good work, Sony has rewarded you with a PSN price hike lol.

Sorry King, I'm not in it for power of a console, I'm in it for the exclusive games which by the way, PS4 has some of the best exclusive I enjoy so far, like Horizon: Zero Dawn and I'm on my 2nd playthrough. This is me saying some of us aren't into this most powerful console, we just want to play games!

Meh, this news is irrelevant to me. I don't expect every game to be in native 4K or whatever. It'll be the most powerful console available but it is only $500 so to expect every game to be 4K is an unrealistic expectation. I'm very satisfied with what I'll be getting for that price.

Lol Killing Floor 2 on X1X > Killing Floor 2 on PS Pro. Get used to inferior products cows!

It's because the X1X has a bottleneck with the CPU.

? Lems = Rekt

" ?Bu....bu muh GTX 1070 Xbawks!!!"

" ?Bu...bu..but...Ryzen!!"

" ?Bu...bu...but muh uncompromized 4K beast!1"

" ?B...bu...bu..but FP32!!!!"

" ? Bu...bu...but the secret sauce and DX12!!1"

? Where is Ron? I expect him in here or maybe he's hiding after he was exposed lying that he never said the Flopio would use Ryzen.

Frame rate is shown after D3D11. Also note that recording with Afterburner causes the framerate to drop significantly. I prefer Shadowplay as it only drops by 1-2 frames.

Releasing a FauxK Box a year later than the PS4 Pro and charging $100 more for it, on top of that no games.

This will end well.

? Incoming sales flop this holiday. Will get bodied by PS4 and Switch so badly.

Why is everyone focusing on this not being native 4K instead of the fact that this game raw renders at 1600x1800 on PS4 Pro and 3200x1800 on the OneX? That's double the resolution, a 100% higher render.

PS4 Pro: 1600x1800 (2,880,000 pixels)

OneX: 3200x1800 (5,760,000 pixels)

@endofaugust: if i hurd right in the video about, the XboX will also be running high pc settings. Not sure if the pspro does

Anything short of GTX 1080 is below 60 fps average threshold.

X1X version has 3200x1800p native.

PS4 Pro version has 3200x1800p checkerboard i.e. about half of pixel render count from X1X's version.

Console versions also targets 60 fps.

From http://wccftech.com/killing-floor-2-runs-1800p-xbox-one-x/

Quoting the developer

Xbox One X was a very smooth and easy platform to develop for. It took very little engineering effort to get our base Xbox One game running on the Xbox One X. It took maybe 4 hours of programming effort total.

Killing Floor 2 runs at native 1800p, fixed resolution (no checkerboarding) on Xbox One X. We did experiment with true 4k rendering, but the frame rate drop was a bit too significant. 1800p provides the optimal balance between visual quality and performance in Killing Floor 2.

We don’t have a specific frame rate target for XBox One X, although the game does run at higher frame rates than the base Xbox One, even at 1800p resolution. We will be using Ultra textures on Xbox One X. We are also increasing the resolution of our shadow maps and shadow draw distance.

It took maybe 4 hours of programming effort total.

Killing Floor 2 (based on UE3) has direct competition from State of Decay 2 (based on UE4) from MS.

from what i have read it will be the same as the PS4 Pro's settings with the exception of it having higher resolution shadow maps and draw distance on shadows. that with a 100% higher resolution is a pretty big deal

Ouch play nice now. Fanboys hate the truth!

oh snap.....that hardwork paying off. lol

From youtube poster

it's definitely playable in 4k but it's barely pushing 30 to 40 fps on max settings if you put 4k settings down to like medium you easily get 60fps

Try again.

GTX 1080 is the minimum GPU for 4K 60 fps average. You have yet to convince me GTX 1070 class GPU card is a robust 4K near 60 fps card.

Published on Nov 23, 2016

i7 3970x @ 4.5Ghz

32gb 2400Mhz

GTX980Ti Galax Ln2 1500Mhz

With frame rate counter.

I've played KF2 on my 1080 gtx fairly extensively and it slows down if you max everything out @4k. Runs good, but not great.

The Butthurt Cows got REKT by Ron again! ?

X1X being more than 43 percent superior over PS4 Pro

ARC Survival (UE4, NVIDIA Gameworks)

Titan Fall 2

Fallout 4 (NVIDIA Gameworks)

Killing Floor 2 (UE3 Modified, NVIDIA Gameworks)

Ladies and gents, Ron has entered the thread. This thread has been officially Ron'd.

What? Can't handle the facts?