Killing the $5000 PC myth.....

Look at the value comparisons.....the $650 PC brutally owns the $5000 one....

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/overclock-radeon-gefore,review-31513-8.html

anyone with half a brain can read hardware review sites find out best parts go onto newegg.com or whatever find cheapest price for part and put together pc.

i can build rig max out crysis easily less than 600 $.

I don't understand this argument. Its as simple as; you make a PC as expensive as you want it to be. Guru_G4M3R

you can also make one cheaper than a wii.

[QUOTE="Guru_G4M3R"]I don't understand this argument. Its as simple as; you make a PC as expensive as you want it to be. hohoohohohohoho

you can also make one cheaper than a wii.

[QUOTE="hohoohohohohoho"]

[QUOTE="Guru_G4M3R"]I don't understand this argument. Its as simple as; you make a PC as expensive as you want it to be. Cherokee_Jack

you can also make one cheaper than a wii.

yes it would be, plus many old pc games have much better graphics than wii.

when unreal tournament 2003 was released in 2002 i still had a 466 mhz intel pentium 3 based celeron with a geforce 4 mx420 my pc only had pci slot which is actually i hear a downgraded geforce 2 lol, it's only direct x7 card, real gf4 agp was dx8.hohoohohohohoho

So i bought a hewlett packard 2.6 ghz 800 mhz fsb with hyperthread northwood core pentium 4.

i wanted to overclock that cpu, after i had bought the pc lol so i bought a motherboard for it to overclock it too cpu out of hp motherboard put it in one from newegg, but then i eventually built a athlon 64 socket 939 3200+.

the 466 mhz celeron a hp still works well and p4, but the mobo died lol.

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="hohoohohohohoho"]

you can also make one cheaper than a wii.

hohoohohohohoho

yes it would be, plus many old pc games have much better graphics than wii.

Like what?

overclocking isnt worth it performance gain wise , kids if you want a solid gaming rig get a hewlett packard though.hohoohohohohoho

if you think you cant build one urself.

my first 3 pc's were prebuilt,

i think 486 i had was actually put together by a military dude or i doubt was pentium 1.

it didnt even have a cd/disk trey it had a cd cadi lol a box you put cd in and poped it into drive like a cartridge.

that was doom days, because i remember game being new at ebgames for pc lol.

then 466 mhz pentium 3 based celeron hewlett packard

then 2.6 ghz pentium 4 with ht...hewlett packard

then athlon 64 3200+ with msi neo2 platinum motherboard nforce 3 was first pc i built myself.

when i had prebuilt pc's i really didnt know crap about pc's except maybe installing a video card i pc gamed but i found it difficult so i console gamed more , when i started reading

www.anandtech.com

and www.tomshardware.com

That's when i learned lol how pc's work and made me want to built one myself.

but seriously kids, overclocking is pointless.

people on youtube who are like how i used to be didnt know crap about pc gaming, will say pc games suck simply because they cant play them lol.

consoles gamers will say oh crysis looks pretty too bad gameplay sucks lol

in my experience pc gaming some games can actually run worse when you overclock ur cpu rather than leaving it at stock settings.

everyone is luckier than when i started pc gaming because my first pc didnt even have windows 95 it had dos you needed to know command lines to run applications and interfaces were alot more complex.

Price isnt the only factor

I like sitting on my couch playing games on my Bravia rather then hunching over a monitor,

I like putting games in and playing right away rather then installing and downloading patch after patch after patch

It takes a few hours to get WoW running

PC isnt just pricey, its inconvnient

Sure they may have a killer lineup of games not available on consoles but I am happy with what consoles have

Plus their are games on consoles you cant get on PC either

Price isnt the only factor

I like sitting on my couch playing games on my Bravia rather then hunching over a monitor,

I like putting games in and playing right away rather then installing and downloading patch after patch after patch

It takes a few hours to get WoW running

PC isnt just pricey, its inconvnient

Sure they may have a killer lineup of games not available on consoles but I am happy with what consoles have

Plus their are games on consoles you cant get on PC either

Stiggsx

What a load of rubbish. That table is totally daft and makes no real sense and gives no proof of its claim.

I know you don't need a $5000 PC for gaming, but it's bleeding obvious if you start at a really cheap PC and overclock it to punch above it's weight and then compare it to a stupidly high priced PC, that it's performance to price ratio will be better.

It would be better if they also had a table showing their actual performances.

If you don't actually want to play Crysis, then any medium priced PC will play everything.

[QUOTE="Stiggsx"]

Price isnt the only factor

I like sitting on my couch playing games on my Bravia rather then hunching over a monitor,

I like putting games in and playing right away rather then installing and downloading patch after patch after patch

It takes a few hours to get WoW running

PC isnt just pricey, its inconvnient

Sure they may have a killer lineup of games not available on consoles but I am happy with what consoles have

Plus their are games on consoles you cant get on PC either

Cherokee_Jack

What a load of rubbish. That table is totally daft and makes no real sense and gives no proof of its claim.

I know you don't need a $5000 PC for gaming, but it's bleeding obvious if you start at a really cheap PC and overclock it to punch above it's weight and then compare it to a stupidly high priced PC, that it's performance to price ratio will be better.

It would be better if they also had a table showing their actual performances.

If you don't actually want to play Crysis, then any medium priced PC will play everything.

SgtWhiskeyjack

you know crysis has low settings right?

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="Stiggsx"]

Price isnt the only factor

I like sitting on my couch playing games on my Bravia rather then hunching over a monitor,

I like putting games in and playing right away rather then installing and downloading patch after patch after patch

It takes a few hours to get WoW running

PC isnt just pricey, its inconvnient

Sure they may have a killer lineup of games not available on consoles but I am happy with what consoles have

Plus their are games on consoles you cant get on PC either

Stiggsx

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="Stiggsx"]

Price isnt the only factor

I like sitting on my couch playing games on my Bravia rather then hunching over a monitor,

I like putting games in and playing right away rather then installing and downloading patch after patch after patch

It takes a few hours to get WoW running

PC isnt just pricey, its inconvnient

Sure they may have a killer lineup of games not available on consoles but I am happy with what consoles have

Plus their are games on consoles you cant get on PC either

Stiggsx

it's definitely worth ur time, because you are on pc anyway posting here, all i gotta do is click this crysis icon on my desktop start playing it and minimize the game while im still playing and post on gamespot forum lol and maximize/start playing at anytime.

[QUOTE="SgtWhiskeyjack"]

What a load of rubbish. That table is totally daft and makes no real sense and gives no proof of its claim.

I know you don't need a $5000 PC for gaming, but it's bleeding obvious if you start at a really cheap PC and overclock it to punch above it's weight and then compare it to a stupidly high priced PC, that it's performance to price ratio will be better.

It would be better if they also had a table showing their actual performances.

If you don't actually want to play Crysis, then any medium priced PC will play everything.

hohoohohohohoho

you know crysis has low settings right?

Yes. But I'm one of those people who won't settle for anything less than playing it on as higher setting as you can get. Gaming for me is more than just a hobby.

What a load of rubbish. That table is totally daft and makes no real sense and gives no proof of its claim.

I know you don't need a $5000 PC for gaming, but it's bleeding obvious if you start at a really cheap PC and overclock it to punch above it's weight and then compare it to a stupidly high priced PC, that it's performance to price ratio will be better.

It would be better if they also had a table showing their actual performances.

If you don't actually want to play Crysis, then any medium priced PC will play everything.

SgtWhiskeyjack

A "medium" priced PC will easily play Crysis, on high settings. There is a ~$1,200 laptop that will play Crysis on high(Gateway FX Edition laptop). That's a laptop, which is always more expensive than a similar desktop, so you're looking at maybe $500-$600 to play Crysis on high settings with a desktop.

consoles are outdated, lol mag on ps3 256 players woooooo, damn i havent seen that before on quake 2 about 10 years ago.

lol look i can host 500 player game, i seen 256 player games on gamespy arcade though back in the day.

http://i43.tinypic.com/a1h9o2.jpg

i find it really sad, and depressing, that this has gone 2 pages and nobody in here understands that chart :(.

it has nothing to do with actual performance, it's relative performance to dollar value. all it's saying is that expensive PC hardware has dimishing returns on performance when weighted against dollar cost. the same applies to many technical and mechanical industry products (automobiles say hai).

seriously guys. read. understand. compare this with actual benchmarks that show the benefits of a 5000$ system vs a 650$ system. all they're saying is the performance increase is disproportionate to the cost increase, not that there isn't a significant performance increase.

ugh.

go run crysis on high settings with a 650$ PC, or most recent PC games for that matter, then we can talk about this 'myth' you people think you're debunking with charts you misrepresent. you can play games on a 650$ PC, great games, don't get me wrong - but they'll look like, and often times perform like, **** unless you play at lower resolutions or drop settings. been PC gaming & building my own rigs for over a decade. it doesn't cost 5000$ for a great computer, but it sure as **** doesn't cost 650$... and i buy my stuff at OEM wholesale prices :P.

overclocking isnt worth it performance gain wise , kids if you want a solid gaming rig get a hewlett packard though.hohoohohohohoho

[QUOTE="hohoohohohohoho"]overclocking isnt worth it performance gain wise , kids if you want a solid gaming rig get a hewlett packard though.millerlight89

hewlett packard make good prebuilt pc's dude lol...well put them together well.

i have a hp 466 mhz celeron i bought in 1999 and it runs 24/7 still works lol, that was my quake 2/quake 3/unreal 1998/unreal tournament 1999/early ut2k3/half life 1#/blood rig.

my moms friend let us use her pc while she was on out of state in new york, was a 266 mhz pentium 2#, that was my early half life 1#/blood quake 2 rig in 1997/98 until i got hp in 1999, but i tossed a pci voodoo3 3500 in there

that one was a compaq lol.

my moms friend let us use her pc while she was on out of state in new york, was a 266 mhz pentium 2#, that was my early half life 1#/blood quake 2 rig in 1997/98 until i got hp in 1999, but i tossed a pci voodoo3 3500 in there

that one was a compaq lol.

hohoohohohohoho

voodoo3 wasnt out when quake 2 first launched though.

Price isnt the only factor

I like sitting on my couch playing games on my Bravia rather then hunching over a monitor,

I like putting games in and playing right away rather then installing and downloading patch after patch after patch

It takes a few hours to get WoW running

PC isnt just pricey, its inconvnient

Sure they may have a killer lineup of games not available on consoles but I am happy with what consoles have

Plus their are games on consoles you cant get on PC either

Stiggsx

PS3 and 360 games (PS3 manditory for almost all games) have installs as well. Isn't that ironic? Kind of hypocritical as well.

Patch after patch? No game usually has more than one patch. Never have i download 3 patches in a row to play a game, Never. Which makes your comment ignorant. Well done.

As for WoW, yes, lets generalize possibly the longest install in the history of PC games as the medium for all PC games. :roll: Talk about reaching. Most games install in 10 minutes and then you play which isn't unlike any other platform at this point.

Only legitimate argument you have is the "hunching over" part and that's personal preference. I don't hunch but, hey, to each his own. Either way your hunching on a Couch as well. And to this i say KB/Mouse, Mods, online, graphics, variety, most AAA/AA exclusives, etc. on PC.

I have no problem with people saying they don't like PC gaming due to personal preference but some stuff you said is straight up ignorance or just plain bull.

What a load of rubbish. That table is totally daft and makes no real sense and gives no proof of its claim.

I know you don't need a $5000 PC for gaming, but it's bleeding obvious if you start at a really cheap PC and overclock it to punch above it's weight and then compare it to a stupidly high priced PC, that it's performance to price ratio will be better.

It would be better if they also had a table showing their actual performances.

If you don't actually want to play Crysis, then any medium priced PC will play everything.

SgtWhiskeyjack

PC isnt just pricey, its inconvnient

Stiggsx

overclocking isnt worth it performance gain wise , kids if you want a solid gaming rig get a hewlett packard though.hohoohohohohoho

This myth has been killed hundreds of times. It will never go away, as it remains basically the only argument console fanboys have against the PCpyromaniac223

I built my PC for over $2000 back in 2007, then I built one thats stronger than mine for a friend for $738 last year (including tax/shipping).

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[QUOTE="Guru_G4M3R"]I don't understand this argument. Its as simple as; you make a PC as expensive as you want it to be. Cherokee_Jack

you can also make one cheaper than a wii.

Yes it would, im using one right now and i play things like HL2 or Halo CE.

A £220 PC can produce much better graphics than a Wii and at higher resolutions (just get an 8400 which is arround £25 now!)