Killstreaks! Is It Just Me Or Does Anyone Else Feel Like They Are Out Of Place?

*Cough* Call Of Duty 4

Just because some guy camps for 3 minutes killing people who run by, I really don't think he deserves a helicopter or plane to help him in his noob expedition.

Same thing with the noobtube, some guy just shoots once and "BAM" I'm dead. Do the noobtube 5 more times and Voila, you have a helper in the sky.

Last but no least, the Nuke. WTF! Now can anyone tell me if they honestly feel like this weapon is needed.

MW2 really extends the problem.

MW1 just did a lot of the stuff right it was nice.

Eh I don't mind them really (mainly because I don't camp/noobtube) It's actually pretty exciting when you get a really high kill streak and you try to make it higher(in any game not just CoD)

CoD4 done it right simple and basic yet rewarding and not overpowered.It was always a joy to get a chopper which wasnt as powerful as one might think if a team worked together to take it down.The CoD4 ones were better as they didnt take too long to get the numbers were easy enough to get if you were a decent player with a bit of savvy.

The problemi have with the MW2 one is the rewards for these high killstreaks which are just encouraging camping especially the AC and chopper gunner which are your staging for your nuke essentially it destroyed the whole feel and flow of a good well thought out design.

Its one of the reasons I don't really play MW2 much anymore, its way to much of twitch shooter where your ping means more than your skill for me and its always the camping newblets who end up with a chopper every 5 minutes.

Both killstreaks and perks are nonsense, in my opinion.

Thank you. Here I am thinking I'm senile for not liking something that inolves no skill. Now if they gave you these perks but took away your gun and mad you a medic then fine. It sucks b/c you know when someones close to a Nuke b/c you that one person is 23-0

killstreaks make a game like MW2 very hard to adapt to for noobs. I remember when I first played MW online, I got destroyed by people using killstreaks, I had no idea what was going on even. Now that I'm pretty damn good at MW2, I don't worry about them at all.. you bring in a helicopter? Ok.. you'll be lucky if it last 20 seconds before it's blown up.fastr

No. KS makes the game EASY to adapt for noobs.

[QUOTE="fastr"]killstreaks make a game like MW2 very hard to adapt to for noobs. I remember when I first played MW online, I got destroyed by people using killstreaks, I had no idea what was going on even. Now that I'm pretty damn good at MW2, I don't worry about them at all.. you bring in a helicopter? Ok.. you'll be lucky if it last 20 seconds before it's blown up.Modern_Unit

No. KS makes the game EASY to adapt for noobs.

[QUOTE="Modern_Unit"]

[QUOTE="fastr"]killstreaks make a game like MW2 very hard to adapt to for noobs. I remember when I first played MW online, I got destroyed by people using killstreaks, I had no idea what was going on even. Now that I'm pretty damn good at MW2, I don't worry about them at all.. you bring in a helicopter? Ok.. you'll be lucky if it last 20 seconds before it's blown up.fastr

No. KS makes the game EASY to adapt for noobs.

OMA

DC

Noobtubes

Dude, i got 4 KS with my TV turned off

Personally, I dislike any game type that focuses heavily on kill count. Unfortunately, MW2 is very deathmatch heavy. The only thing I'll play in that game is Spec-Ops.

BFBC2 is more my cup o' tea because of Conquest and Rush.

They're really annoying especially with the larger maps with little cover, but what I really hate is that you can respawn and and just die straight away because of them.

killstreaks make a game like MW2 very hard to adapt to for noobs. I remember when I first played MW online, I got destroyed by people using killstreaks, I had no idea what was going on even. Now that I'm pretty damn good at MW2, I don't worry about them at all.. you bring in a helicopter? Ok.. you'll be lucky if it last 20 seconds before it's blown up.fastr

I think killstreaks are so pathetic. Who approved that idea? You should earn your kills the old fashion way. Not get 7 in a row, and then let an attack chopper do all the work for you. MW2 took that concept and made it even more unbalanced and stupid. Just give me a nice announcer saying KILLING SPREE or soemthing, and I'm happy. jg4xchamp

M-M-M-MONSTER KILL!!!

That's the best announcement ever.

Both killstreaks and perks are nonsense, in my opinion.

psn8214

[QUOTE="psn8214"]

Both killstreaks and perks are nonsense, in my opinion.

DarkLink77

[QUOTE="fastr"]killstreaks make a game like MW2 very hard to adapt to for noobs. I remember when I first played MW online, I got destroyed by people using killstreaks, I had no idea what was going on even. Now that I'm pretty damn good at MW2, I don't worry about them at all.. you bring in a helicopter? Ok.. you'll be lucky if it last 20 seconds before it's blown up.locopatho

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="psn8214"]

Both killstreaks and perks are nonsense, in my opinion.

jg4xchamp

No hating here. UT rocks.

OK, "noobtube" is new to me. Anyone care to fill me in?

OK, "noobtube" is new to me. Anyone care to fill me in?

felipebo

Sland name forThe Under-slung grenade launcher in the Call of Duty series, found on assault rifles.

Extremely easy to use, one shot kill, and overpowered.

I didn't have a prob with them in 4 but in MW2 they ruin the game, it makes the experience really frustrating, and constantly dieing from air support which you can't avoid no matter how good you are is really annoying, they should only leave in the weak killstreaks, UAV, Counter UAV, Precision air strike, Predator missle, EMP, turret etc. The strong the ones that stay in the air shooting, and the controlable ones need to go. They should never require more then 7-10 kills.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] What this wise poster with the blue font said. :D It's too bad FPSes that take skill are going the way of the dinosaur.DarkLink77

No hating here. UT rocks.

I didn't have a prob with them in 4 but in MW2 they ruin the game, it makes the experience really frustrating, and constantly dieing from air support which you can't avoid no matter how good you are is really annoying, they should only leave in the weak killstreaks, UAV, Counter UAV, Precision air strike, Predator missle, EMP, turret etc. The strong the ones that stay in the air shooting, and the controlable ones need to go. They should never require more then 7-10 kills.

Mestitia

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] I blame those quake noobs that were Unreal haters. Those losers cost us the golden age. jg4xchamp

No hating here. UT rocks.

[QUOTE="Mestitia"]

I didn't have a prob with them in 4 but in MW2 they ruin the game, it makes the experience really frustrating, and constantly dieing from air support which you can't avoid no matter how good you are is really annoying, they should only leave in the weak killstreaks, UAV, Counter UAV, Precision air strike, Predator missle, EMP, turret etc. The strong the ones that stay in the air shooting, and the controlable ones need to go. They should never require more then 7-10 kills.

fastr

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

No hating here. UT rocks.

DarkLink77

Yeah. I definitely miss the simplistic killstreaks from COD4. MW2 goes overboard in a hurry.

[QUOTE="felipebo"]

OK, "noobtube" is new to me. Anyone care to fill me in?

siddhu33

Sland name forThe Under-slung grenade launcher in the Call of Duty series, found on assault rifles.

Extremely easy to use, one shot kill, and overpowered.

Oh, what I use. :shock: But I only play offline split-screen, and grenade-launchers don't have much effect on my friends.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] ...and now I know that Darklink is a horrible side kick for a potential hijack. Way to go sport :|Mestitia

The concept of kill streaks - rewarding players for getting a lot of kills without dying - is fundamentally flawed because it rewards the good players and punishes the bad players.

They weren't really a problem in CoD 4, but in MW2 they are a bit out of hand. Its always that one twitchy jackass who is hopping about the map with dual-wielded smg's that gets them, Then the poor sods like myself who are trying to play more carefully get repeatedly killed by a player who is already dominating. Totally illogical.

So far the only way i've managed to have any semblence of success in MW 2 is by using a assault rifle with a silencer, heart beat monitor and using the cold-blooded perk so that enemy air support doesn't see you.

the BC 2 system makes much more sense, rewarding the player with a pin and some xp - it helps the individual player but does not affect any others.

[QUOTE="Mestitia"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Well, I was going to help, but GS seriously would not let me post what I wanted to..... which was as follows: And, back on topic, Quake 3 IS a better game. Moar crazy mechanics, foo. UT is just a bush league copycat.DarkLink77

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="Mestitia"]UT99 is the greatest competitive multiplayer FPS of all time. OF ALL TIME!

Mestitia

*Cough* Call Of Duty 4

Just because some guy camps for 3 minutes killing people who run by, I really don't think he deserves a helicopter or plane to help him in his noob expedition.

Same thing with the noobtube, some guy just shoots once and "BAM" I'm dead. Do the noobtube 5 more times and Voila, you have a helper in the sky.

Last but no least, the Nuke. WTF! Now can anyone tell me if they honestly feel like this weapon is needed.

Heroldp813

The greatest way to improve Killstreaks would be to remove kills from the concept.

Instead of rewarding lots of kills for one player so he can get more kills, reward a team for objective milestones. That way players still focus on winning the game. The streaks could go off automatically, or a commander could decide when to use them at the appropriate moment.

IE, for each +team point you get +streak point

You are falling a little bit behind, commander selects a streak, streak points = streak points - streak reward.

This prevents the sky from being poluted with streaks and makes them a reward of strong team play something the game lacks severely.

For a competitive FPS, Kill Streaks are completely out of place. It'd be like if a team scored three times in a row in a basketball game, they suddenly get jet packs and hand grenades. Basically in MW2 there's an element where you, as a good player, go from being the hero that carries the team to either the annoyed or annoying. You either go on a kill streak that's completely imbalanced by the fact the Harrier you call down will get you the AC130 which will get you whatever other ridiculous weapon you want, or you're sitting there getting killed because the good guy on the other team farmed all of your teammates.

Kill Streaks turn a slight advantage created by a player going "on a streak" (since their K:D is awesome they're effectively winning the game already) into a game-breaking swing. The system is also apt for abuse by hackers, glitchers, campers, etc...

the killstreaks in COD4 imo were the best because they stopped before really encouraging camping. MW2 killstreaks on the other hand promote camping

ive always hated killstreaks, way too powerful

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[QUOTE="Heroldp813"]

*Cough* Call Of Duty 4

Just because some guy camps for 3 minutes killing people who run by, I really don't think he deserves a helicopter or plane to help him in his noob expedition.

Same thing with the noobtube, some guy just shoots once and "BAM" I'm dead. Do the noobtube 5 more times and Voila, you have a helper in the sky.

Last but no least, the Nuke. WTF! Now can anyone tell me if they honestly feel like this weapon is needed.

antifanboyftw

Well at least in BC2 I don't have to spend half the match in doors b/c I don't have a rocket. The problem is some people actually play the game like a FPS, but those are the ones that suffer. The real way to play COD is like a RTS/RPG ga,e where kills are your currency and perks are what you purchased. I feel like I'm playing a huge tower defense game sometimes

MW1 wasn't so bad. Stuff like the helicopter was a bit of a cheat IMO, but it was doable. MW2 is a big ****ing joke. Sometimes I've been nuked within the first 2 minutes of a round and consecutively.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="psn8214"]

Both killstreaks and perks are nonsense, in my opinion.

jg4xchamp

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unreal >>>>> quake 3 arena any day

MW1 wasn't so bad. Stuff like the helicopter was a bit of a cheat IMO, but it was doable. MW2 is a big ****ing joke. Sometimes I've been nuked within the first 2 minutes of a round and consecutively.

bigblunt537

Those are stat padders, friends on opposing teams meet somewhere where one has a tactical insertion and farm 25 kills without being in danger. They have common locations I usually swing by them for a quick couple kills if I see some nonsense on the score board (ie 9-0 and opposing 0-9 real early)

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] What this wise poster with the blue font said. :D It's too bad FPSes that take skill are going the way of the dinosaur.88mphSlayer

this

unreal >>>>> quake 3 arena any day

[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

MW1 wasn't so bad. Stuff like the helicopter was a bit of a cheat IMO, but it was doable. MW2 is a big ****ing joke. Sometimes I've been nuked within the first 2 minutes of a round and consecutively.

MajorGamer531

Those are stat padders, friends on opposing teams meet somewhere where one has a tactical insertion and farm 25 kills without being in danger. They have common locations I usually swing by them for a quick couple kills if I see some nonsense on the score board (ie 9-0 and opposing 0-9 real early)

Yeah, well it was a terrible game IMO and although my KD ratio wasn't so bad I hate whenever I turn it on. lol Hence no Vietnam for me.

MW2 really extends the problem.

MW1 just did a lot of the stuff right it was nice.

Animal-Mother