Killzone 2 Dev: "No install, optional or otherwise"

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=killzone2&view=by_date_ascending&message.id=69331#M69331

You can tell this isnt the same Guerilla Games from years ago. No install on a game that looks that impressive? Madness...

Nice to save some Hard Drive space for you 40 giggers though eh? :)

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=killzone2&view=by_date_ascending&message.id=69331#M69331

You can tell this isnt the same Guerilla Games from years ago. No install on a game that looks that impressive? Madness...

Nice to save some Hard Drive space for you 40 giggers though eh? :)

nicenator

Well Killzone 2 was developed way before installs were common, so yeah.

[QUOTE="nicenator"]

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=killzone2&view=by_date_ascending&message.id=69331#M69331

You can tell this isnt the same Guerilla Games from years ago. No install on a game that looks that impressive? Madness...

Nice to save some Hard Drive space for you 40 giggers though eh? :)

WilliamRLBaker

why would one take out the harddrive, which is not designed to be quickly removed?

Well Killzone 2 was developed way before installs were common, so yeah.

 

ReverseCycology

Would you please expand on that line of reasoning? Look, I know you want to be negative about this, so how about we just get it out in the open for once?

After reading that link: I don't like the idea of players having big glowing lights on them, which basically negates the concept of trying to be concealed at all. But at least it's balanced for both sides, not just the Helghast glowing.Mordred19

By the time you see any glowing lights, its already too late.

[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

Well Killzone 2 was developed way before installs were common, so yeah.

 

Mordred19

Would you please expand on that line of reasoning? Look, I know you want to be negative about this, so how about we just get it out in the open for once?

[QUOTE="Mordred19"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

Well Killzone 2 was developed way before installs were common, so yeah.

 

ReverseCycology

Would you please expand on that line of reasoning? Look, I know you want to be negative about this, so how about we just get it out in the open for once?

So did they only have the option after all these other games started doing installs? :? 

Sony's now in-house developer wouldn't know about the advantage of installs?

Moving on: I would have liked an optional install. But I don't have a mindset in which Guerilla Games is some kind of inflexible, ineffecient, 19 century assembly line, that can't take the intitiative to make their product as good as possible.

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="nicenator"]

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=killzone2&view=by_date_ascending&message.id=69331#M69331

You can tell this isnt the same Guerilla Games from years ago. No install on a game that looks that impressive? Madness...

Nice to save some Hard Drive space for you 40 giggers though eh? :)

Mordred19

why would one take out the harddrive, which is not designed to be quickly removed?

Thats not really the point is it? as for that the hard drive is easily removed in the ps3, like one screw then pops out, but the point was that they are making a big thing about no install optional or mandatory like they are doing some sort of service for the fans but in reality the game wouldn't be playable without some sort of cache thats a simple fact of blu ray, KZ2 will use a comprehensive consistant loading cache like uncharted did which was something like 2-3 gigs i believe so the whole optional or mandatory install means nothing since the cache is still there I would rather have a mandatory install for guanteed seamless gameplay instead of the promised in uncharted but hardly delivered.

[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"][QUOTE="Mordred19"]

 

Would you please expand on that line of reasoning? Look, I know you want to be negative about this, so how about we just get it out in the open for once?

Mordred19

So did they only have the option after all these other games started doing installs? :? 

Sony's now in-house developer wouldn't know about the advantage of installs?

Moving on: I would have liked an optional install. But I don't have a mindset in which Guerilla Games is some kind of inflexible, ineffecient, 19 century assembly line, that can't take the intitiative to make their product as good as possible.

nice option. all tho, im still going to install:Dbox0rocks

Thats not really the point is it? as for that the hard drive is easily removed in the ps3, like one screw then pops out, but the point was that they are making a big thing about no install optional or mandatory like they are doing some sort of service for the fans but in reality the game wouldn't be playable without some sort of cache thats a simple fact of blu ray, KZ2 will use a comprehensive consistant loading cache like uncharted did which was something like 2-3 gigs i believe so the whole optional or mandatory install means nothing since the cache is still there I would rather have a mandatory install for guanteed seamless gameplay instead of the promised in uncharted but hardly delivered.

WilliamRLBaker

they aren't making a big thing about it. that's a forum post.

Well Killzone 2 was developed way before installs were common, so yeah.

 

ReverseCycology

After reading that link: I don't like the idea of players having big glowing lights on them, which basically negates the concept of trying to be concealed at all. But at least it's balanced for both sides, not just the Helghast glowing.Mordred19

Slow loading confirmed.

[QUOTE="nicenator"]

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=killzone2&view=by_date_ascending&message.id=69331#M69331

You can tell this isnt the same Guerilla Games from years ago. No install on a game that looks that impressive? Madness...

Nice to save some Hard Drive space for you 40 giggers though eh? :)

WilliamRLBaker

[QUOTE="Mordred19"]After reading that link: I don't like the idea of players having big glowing lights on them, which basically negates the concept of trying to be concealed at all. But at least it's balanced for both sides, not just the Helghast glowing.Episode_Eve

Even if it works, that particular aspect is just not something that is for me. The rest of the game still looks like my kind of MP.

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=killzone2&view=by_date_ascending&message.id=69331#M69331

You can tell this isnt the same Guerilla Games from years ago. No install on a game that looks that impressive? Madness...

Nice to save some Hard Drive space for you 40 giggers though eh? :)

nicenator

I would of prefered optional install

When a game like fallout 3 doesn't have a install you have to wonder why on playstation 3 other games have installs at all.Zenkuso

seriously? wtf man.... i wanted a install because without it it makes the ps3 disc loading sound LOUD...like...xbox 360 loud.ReaperV7

Lol you wish I can't hear the disc on any games

[QUOTE="Zenkuso"]When a game like fallout 3 doesn't have a install you have to wonder why on playstation 3 other games have installs at all.ReaperV7

[QUOTE="ReaperV7"]seriously? wtf man.... i wanted a install because without it it makes the ps3 disc loading sound LOUD...like...xbox 360 loud.All_that_is_Man

Lol you wish I can't hear the disc on any games

[QUOTE="All_that_is_Man"]

[QUOTE="ReaperV7"]seriously? wtf man.... i wanted a install because without it it makes the ps3 disc loading sound LOUD...like...xbox 360 loud.ReaperV7

Lol you wish I can't hear the disc on any games

I think its your ps3 dude.....I just put uncharted in and its quiet as a mouse

[QUOTE="Mordred19"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] Likely it will use a comprehensive cache system like uncharted who's cache edged to the size of most installs on the ps3, So in the end your really not being given a choice if you were capable of taking the HDD out of the ps3 and play a game KZ2 likely wouldn't work since it requires a cache so its basically an install any ways.WilliamRLBaker

why would one take out the harddrive, which is not designed to be quickly removed?

Thats not really the point is it? as for that the hard drive is easily removed in the ps3, like one screw then pops out, but the point was that they are making a big thing about no install optional or mandatory like they are doing some sort of service for the fans but in reality the game wouldn't be playable without some sort of cache thats a simple fact of blu ray, KZ2 will use a comprehensive consistant loading cache like uncharted did which was something like 2-3 gigs i believe so the whole optional or mandatory install means nothing since the cache is still there I would rather have a mandatory install for guanteed seamless gameplay instead of the promised in uncharted but hardly delivered.

Dude you have no idea what your talking about

2-3 GB like Uncharted LMFAO :lol:

I can run uncharted with 2560kb of hdd space lol says so at he back of the box

[QUOTE="nicenator"]

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=killzone2&view=by_date_ascending&message.id=69331#M69331

You can tell this isnt the same Guerilla Games from years ago. No install on a game that looks that impressive? Madness...

Nice to save some Hard Drive space for you 40 giggers though eh? :)

All_that_is_Man

I would of prefered optional install

Sometimes, the option of install could hurt a game's performance. When a game uses the harddrive to cache info and it streams off of the disc too, the harddrive wouldn't be able to properly manage it all(see: Halo 3).

Wow, GG are masters of tech. I was expecting a mandatory install. This is great and what every developer (as did Naughty Dog and Insomniac) need to strive for.Episode_Eve

[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"][QUOTE="Mordred19"]

 

Would you please expand on that line of reasoning? Look, I know you want to be negative about this, so how about we just get it out in the open for once?

Mordred19

So did they only have the option after all these other games started doing installs? :? 

Sony's now in-house developer wouldn't know about the advantage of installs?

Moving on: I would have liked an optional install. But I don't have a mindset in which Guerilla Games is some kind of inflexible, ineffecient, 19 century assembly line, that can't take the intitiative to make their product as good as possible.