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#1 opi-14
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http://www.gametrailers.com/player/34201.html

RayTracing Technology The game will use RayTracing (see below on what that is) but it looks amazing.

Gears of War 2 look very slowly be difficult technology use by Unreal Engine 3. It's still excellence graphic.

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#2 SnakePS360Gamer
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Dear god no, not again.
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#3 MojondeVACA
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Yeah raytracing :roll:,somehow the ps3 got some new CPU/GPU from the future to run raytracing with KZ2..
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#4 Leo-Magic
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boring
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#5 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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1) Gears 2 looks amazing.

2) It is too soon for tellling if K2 will look better. There are a lot of issues that could be in the final version and right now are impossible to tell.

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#6 jaisimar_chelse
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Yeah raytracing :roll:,somehow the ps3 got some new CPU/GPU from the future to run raytracing with KZ2..MojondeVACA

no wai, didnt you know cell can do raytracing

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#7 opi-14
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Dear god no, not again.SnakePS360Gamer

sorry, that's system wars because it's still console.

pc are standard.

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#8 X360PS3AMD05
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You did not just say that.............even PC games are years away from ray tracing, if it ever happens....................
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#9 Juggernaut140
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TLHBO

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#10 campbell1874
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The movie clipped you like has been discussed many times and it still end up with no clear winner.

Why not just wait untill the games are finished then we can judge the final product.

There isn't much difference between the two games. One might end up having better graphic but it doesn't really matter as both games have great graphic.

People focus on graphic but it you get the game home and the graphic are a 10 out of 10 but the gameplay is only 2 out of 10 then you wont play a game to to look it graphics as it more important that it is fun when playing.

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#11 RonnieLottinSF
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I love how people try and compare games that aren't even out yet.
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#12 nonshuhlahnt
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Considering neither game has yet to be released this is a foolish statement.
However i do agree that killzone 2 looks amazing.
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#13 Eyezonmii
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Yeah raytracing :roll:,somehow the ps3 got some new CPU/GPU from the future to run raytracing with KZ2..MojondeVACA

lol, you always blind hate with no knowledge. but to correct you, killzone uses a form of RAY TRACING, for the games lighting effects, it isn't FULL ray tracing, but a part of it..its very impressive and the game shows it. THe cell has the ability to handle it. Do some research.

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#14 opi-14
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PS3 system can handle use Ray-Tracking technology for increase CPU core. The Cell is powerful use CPU.

this is how technology by Ray-Tracking http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=530

X-360 can't handle use Ray-Tracking technology. The system has less CPU core but powerful of GPU.

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#15 king_bobo
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http://www.gametrailers.com/player/34201.html

RayTracing Technology The game will use RayTracing (see below on what that is) but it looks amazing.

Gears of War 2 look very slowly be difficult technology use by Unreal Engine 3. It's still excellence graphic.

opi-14
Graphically and animation-wise Killzone 2 appears to be way more realistic, but I think Gears of War is supposed to be kind of stylised. I think I'll enjoy Killzone 2 more, but that doesn't necesarily make it a better game, and I will be sure to pick up Gears of War 2 as well...
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#16 opi-14
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WOW! Ray-Tracking technology don't need graphic card! WTF!?!

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The site from http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=506

The ray tracing approach I am reporting about in this article is calculated completely on the CPU. No graphics card is needed to create the image. (Once created, we merely transport the pixels to the graphics card to have it paint the image onto the monitor).

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[QUOTE="MojondeVACA"]Yeah raytracing :roll:,somehow the ps3 got some new CPU/GPU from the future to run raytracing with KZ2..Eyezonmii

lol, you always blind hate with no knowledge. but to correct you, killzone uses a form of RAY TRACING, for the games lighting effects, it isn't FULL ray tracing, but a part of it..its very impressive and the game shows it. THe cell has the ability to handle it. Do some research.



You wont correct me with something wrong,KZ2 engine is all about post processing effects there isnt a single amount of raytracing,even the PDF file says all the redering techniques..
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#18 doobie1975
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id bet that 90% of SW user have no clue what ray trace is, but yet feel compelled to comment on it.
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#20 Malta_1980
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oh god, raytracing again?

Lets just all agree that both Geow2 & KZ2 look visually amazing considering they are on consoles.... the rest is just a matter of personal taste/opinions..

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#21 opi-14
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[QUOTE="opi-14"]

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/34201.html

RayTracing Technology The game will use RayTracing (see below on what that is) but it looks amazing.

Gears of War 2 look very slowly be difficult technology use by Unreal Engine 3. It's still excellence graphic.

skyform

Wtf, are you on something or what, Gears 2 looks slow?

I already finished Gears 2 and sorry watching this Killzone 2 video it's slower then Gears 2 and also borring.

You have no idea how is Gears 2, is freaking amazing, it's such a big improvment over the first one.

Im no going to say yet which game is better because i didn't play KZ2 yet, never juddge a game before you played it, Gears 2 is simply amazing it's getting better and better every hour you play, it's so much going to, some battles are almost as big as in Lair.

Do you know about technology Unreal Engine 3? Use technology on Gears Of War 2.

It's look very slowly be difficult technology use by Unreal Engine 3. I believe that Gears of War 2 gone to slow action gameplay.

I was surprised that Unreal Tournament III is slow action with improvement a vehicles become fast action. Thanks Epic developer.

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#23 Erik_Lensherr
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Yes , yes your so right ..KZ2 is not only using this technology, but it also runs an algorithm that solidifies quantum mechanics.When it is released and played rainbows and alternate universis will spring forth, the 4th dimension will be explained and sheep, cows, and lemmings and hermits will hold hands and sing cum by yah :roll: ...on a serious note KZ2 looks like garbage, it's all blur and the only thing woth mentioning are the animations (which by the way are not realistic, but are nice) again Killzone 2 is only hyped because it is exclusive ..the graphics are the suckage
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#24 opi-14
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[QUOTE="opi-14"][QUOTE="skyform"][QUOTE="opi-14"]

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/34201.html

RayTracing Technology The game will use RayTracing (see below on what that is) but it looks amazing.

Gears of War 2 look very slowly be difficult technology use by Unreal Engine 3. It's still excellence graphic.

skyform

Wtf, are you on something or what, Gears 2 looks slow?

I already finished Gears 2 and sorry watching this Killzone 2 video it's slower then Gears 2 and also borring.

You have no idea how is Gears 2, is freaking amazing, it's such a big improvment over the first one.

Im no going to say yet which game is better because i didn't play KZ2 yet, never juddge a game before you played it, Gears 2 is simply amazing it's getting better and better every hour you play, it's so much going to, some battles are almost as big as in Lair.


I believe that Gears of War 2 gone to slow action gameplay.

You belive so, but i played it, it's as fast as the first one with so much more going to, faster paced then the videos you post of KZ2.

I played Unreal Tournament III game on PS3. The game is technology use Unreal Engine 3 same as Gears of War 2.

That's problem technology Unreal Engine 3 is motive slow action. It'll help improvement a vehicles on fast action.

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Yes , yes your so right ..KZ2 is not only using this technology, but it also runs an algorithm that solidifies quantum mechanics.When it is released and played rainbows and alternate universis will spring forth, the 4th dimension will be explained and sheep, cows, and lemmings and hermits will hold hands and sing cum by yah :roll: ...on a serious note KZ2 looks like garbage, it's all blur and the only thing woth mentioning are the animations (which by the way are not realistic, but are nice) again Killzone 2 is only hyped because it is exclusive ..the graphics are the suckageErik_Lensherr

A bit on the deranged fanboy side, eh?

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[QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"]Yes , yes your so right ..KZ2 is not only using this technology, but it also runs an algorithm that solidifies quantum mechanics.When it is released and played rainbows and alternate universis will spring forth, the 4th dimension will be explained and sheep, cows, and lemmings and hermits will hold hands and sing cum by yah :roll: ...on a serious note KZ2 looks like garbage, it's all blur and the only thing woth mentioning are the animations (which by the way are not realistic, but are nice) again Killzone 2 is only hyped because it is exclusive ..the graphics are the suckagebleehum

A bit on the deranged fanboy side, aren't you?

in all honesty, i can accept people stating they dont like the artistic approach taken by devs for KZ2, but someone stating the graphics for KZ2 are the suckage is clearly either a fanboy or else just wants to annoy people (and get the kick out of it with their reactions/posts)

Geow2 looks great and from gameplay vids seems like it runs smoothly, and same thing can be said for KZ2... both look visually amazing imo..

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Who cares? that doesn't mean fun.
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#28 Gaming_Guru_Guy
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So this game has ray tracing yet A.I. that looks like it's from the last gen? The graphics do look pretty cool for KZ2 though I really lik the gun model.
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http://www.gametrailers.com/player/34201.html

RayTracing Technology The game will use RayTracing (see below on what that is) but it looks amazing.

Gears of War 2 look very slowly be difficult technology use by Unreal Engine 3. It's still excellence graphic.

opi-14

But seriously, not this again, wait till both games are released before we make any comparisons.

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[QUOTE="opi-14"]

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/34201.html

RayTracing Technology The game will use RayTracing (see below on what that is) but it looks amazing.

Gears of War 2 look very slowly be difficult technology use by Unreal Engine 3. It's still excellence graphic.

Snugenz

But seriously, not this again, wait till both games are released before we make any comparisons.

In Russia, Gears of War plays you! But back to the topic, while Killzone 2 looks good at this point in time, it really comes down to the score it'll be getting. How will people defend the game if Gears of War scores higher than Killzone 2?

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#31 Nisim19
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gears 2 is way better looking then KZ2

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#32 Czenkus
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I dunno, I fell for the whole Killzone 1 is a good game thing, I'll wait to rent kz2.. because the first was HORRID, Gears 2 looks more promising to me.
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#33 ExtremeOne316
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Gears of War 2 is the better game overall .

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i heard the epic "volumetric clouds" in warhawk were ray traced lol but really clouds in warhawk werent anything special
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#35 SecretPolice
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Gears 2 a 2008 game > KZ2 a 2009 game.

With that said it's a no brain-er that: 360 2009 game > KZ2 in 2009. :twisted:

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#36 Al3x_n90
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Gears 2 a 2008 game > KZ2 a 2009 game.

With that said it's a no brain-er that: 360 2009 game > KZ2 in 2009. :twisted:

SecretPolice

You're talking about gameplay, right? :|

Cuz you've got to admit, KZ2 looks really really awesome, and it does look better than gears2 :) anyway overall i think gears2 will be the better game ;)

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[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]

[QUOTE="MojondeVACA"]Yeah raytracing :roll:,somehow the ps3 got some new CPU/GPU from the future to run raytracing with KZ2..MojondeVACA

lol, you always blind hate with no knowledge. but to correct you, killzone uses a form of RAY TRACING, for the games lighting effects, it isn't FULL ray tracing, but a part of it..its very impressive and the game shows it. THe cell has the ability to handle it. Do some research.



You wont correct me with something wrong,KZ2 engine is all about post processing effects there isnt a single amount of raytracing,even the PDF file says all the redering techniques..

Actually a cell can ray trace with optimization better than most high end nvidia cards.It has been confirmed already !

http://gametomorrow.com/blog/index.php/2007/09/05/cell-vs-g80/

http://www.power.org/swsummit/download/SW_Summit_PS3_Experience_Joaquin.pdf

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#38 lesner87
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Gears 2 a 2008 game > KZ2 a 2009 game.

With that said it's a no brain-er that: 360 2009 game > KZ2 in 2009. :twisted:

SecretPolice

lol someone is forgetting MGS4 AAAAe and LBP AAAe.

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Forget the visuals! Gears of War will kick ass in gameplay, i will not care about graphics too much.
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#40 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Gears 2 a 2008 game > KZ2 a 2009 game.

With that said it's a no brain-er that: 360 2009 game > KZ2 in 2009. :twisted:

lesner87

lol someone is forgetting MGS4 AAAAe and LBP AAAe.

I'm sorry, I failed to see those games listed in the topic or the OP. :roll:

Anywho, L.O. > MGS4 and Banjo N&B > LBP. :P

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#41 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Gears 2 a 2008 game > KZ2 a 2009 game.

With that said it's a no brain-er that: 360 2009 game > KZ2 in 2009. :twisted:

Al3x_n90

You're talking about gameplay, right? :|

Cuz you've got to admit, KZ2 looks really really awesome, and it does look better than gears2 :) anyway overall i think gears2 will be the better game ;)

KZ2 does look sweet but I got to tell you true, I am no fan of that blur. Not bashing, just an honest thing, I don't like the blur except in maybe some games like Moto GP where your speed down a straight away gets so fast, then the blur seems appropriate.
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#42 lesner87
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[QUOTE="lesner87"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Gears 2 a 2008 game > KZ2 a 2009 game.

With that said it's a no brain-er that: 360 2009 game > KZ2 in 2009. :twisted:

SecretPolice

lol someone is forgetting MGS4 AAAAe and LBP AAAe.

I'm sorry, I failed to see those games listed in the topic or the OP. :roll:

Anywho, L.O. > MGS4 and Banjo N&B > LBP. :P

Good for you ;) For me LBP FAR BETTER than the next coming FLOP ! And MGS4 BEST GAME of the year.

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[QUOTE="MojondeVACA"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]

[QUOTE="MojondeVACA"]Yeah raytracing :roll:,somehow the ps3 got some new CPU/GPU from the future to run raytracing with KZ2..lesner87

lol, you always blind hate with no knowledge. but to correct you, killzone uses a form of RAY TRACING, for the games lighting effects, it isn't FULL ray tracing, but a part of it..its very impressive and the game shows it. THe cell has the ability to handle it. Do some research.



You wont correct me with something wrong,KZ2 engine is all about post processing effects there isnt a single amount of raytracing,even the PDF file says all the redering techniques..

Actually a cell can ray trace with optimization better than most high end nvidia cards.It has been confirmed already !

http://gametomorrow.com/blog/index.php/2007/09/05/cell-vs-g80/

http://www.power.org/swsummit/download/SW_Summit_PS3_Experience_Joaquin.pdf

Heh, you owned him there :P

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#44 Snugenz
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="lesner87"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Gears 2 a 2008 game > KZ2 a 2009 game.

With that said it's a no brain-er that: 360 2009 game > KZ2 in 2009. :twisted:

lesner87

lol someone is forgetting MGS4 AAAAe and LBP AAAe.

I'm sorry, I failed to see those games listed in the topic or the OP. :roll:

Anywho, L.O. > MGS4 and Banjo N&B > LBP. :P

Good for you ;) For me LBP FAR BETTER than the next coming FLOP ! And MGS4 BEST GAME of the year.

Uh uh, no way, no how is MGS4 the best game of the year.

I do agree with LBP being an amazing game and possibly better than Banjo N&B (havnt followed banjo at all so i dont know enough to pass a proper judgement on it)

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#45 Malta_1980
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[QUOTE="lesner87"][QUOTE="MojondeVACA"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]

[QUOTE="MojondeVACA"]Yeah raytracing :roll:,somehow the ps3 got some new CPU/GPU from the future to run raytracing with KZ2..Al3x_n90

lol, you always blind hate with no knowledge. but to correct you, killzone uses a form of RAY TRACING, for the games lighting effects, it isn't FULL ray tracing, but a part of it..its very impressive and the game shows it. THe cell has the ability to handle it. Do some research.



You wont correct me with something wrong,KZ2 engine is all about post processing effects there isnt a single amount of raytracing,even the PDF file says all the redering techniques..

Actually a cell can ray trace with optimization better than most high end nvidia cards.It has been confirmed already !

http://gametomorrow.com/blog/index.php/2007/09/05/cell-vs-g80/

http://www.power.org/swsummit/download/SW_Summit_PS3_Experience_Joaquin.pdf

Heh, you owned him there :P

not sure but if i remember correctly, true/full ray-tracing cannot really be achieved with current technology... maybe partial ray-tracing and cell may render ray-tracing but probably multiple processors can generate that not a single Cell processor the one in our PS3...

not sure though cause cant remember properly what the article said...

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[QUOTE="Al3x_n90"][QUOTE="lesner87"][QUOTE="MojondeVACA"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]

[QUOTE="MojondeVACA"]Yeah raytracing :roll:,somehow the ps3 got some new CPU/GPU from the future to run raytracing with KZ2..Malta_1980

lol, you always blind hate with no knowledge. but to correct you, killzone uses a form of RAY TRACING, for the games lighting effects, it isn't FULL ray tracing, but a part of it..its very impressive and the game shows it. THe cell has the ability to handle it. Do some research.



You wont correct me with something wrong,KZ2 engine is all about post processing effects there isnt a single amount of raytracing,even the PDF file says all the redering techniques..

Actually a cell can ray trace with optimization better than most high end nvidia cards.It has been confirmed already !

http://gametomorrow.com/blog/index.php/2007/09/05/cell-vs-g80/

http://www.power.org/swsummit/download/SW_Summit_PS3_Experience_Joaquin.pdf

Heh, you owned him there :P

not sure but if i remember correctly, true/full ray-tracing cannot really be achieved with current technology... maybe partial ray-tracing and cell may render ray-tracing but probably multiple processors can generate that not a single Cell processor the one in our PS3...

not sure though cause cant remember properly what the article said...

Unawareness.....The iRT is fully scalable on a single SPE of Cell broadband.I wont go into tech talks...refer to B3d guys they`ill explain you...here watch this vid :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZnbMWy9A0Y

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#47 Al3x_n90
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[QUOTE="Al3x_n90"][QUOTE="lesner87"][QUOTE="MojondeVACA"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]

[QUOTE="MojondeVACA"]Yeah raytracing :roll:,somehow the ps3 got some new CPU/GPU from the future to run raytracing with KZ2..Malta_1980

lol, you always blind hate with no knowledge. but to correct you, killzone uses a form of RAY TRACING, for the games lighting effects, it isn't FULL ray tracing, but a part of it..its very impressive and the game shows it. THe cell has the ability to handle it. Do some research.



You wont correct me with something wrong,KZ2 engine is all about post processing effects there isnt a single amount of raytracing,even the PDF file says all the redering techniques..

Actually a cell can ray trace with optimization better than most high end nvidia cards.It has been confirmed already !

http://gametomorrow.com/blog/index.php/2007/09/05/cell-vs-g80/

http://www.power.org/swsummit/download/SW_Summit_PS3_Experience_Joaquin.pdf

Heh, you owned him there :P

not sure but if i remember correctly, true/full ray-tracing cannot really be achieved with current technology... maybe partial ray-tracing and cell may render ray-tracing but probably multiple processors can generate that not a single Cell processor the one in our PS3...

not sure though cause cant remember properly what the article said...

I don't think it is REAL ray tracing, it's just some lighting effect :lol: anyway it's good enough for us :P looks cool anyway in that building :)

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#48 Malta_1980
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[QUOTE="Malta_1980"][QUOTE="Al3x_n90"][QUOTE="lesner87"][QUOTE="MojondeVACA"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]

Al3x_n90

not sure but if i remember correctly, true/full ray-tracing cannot really be achieved with current technology... maybe partial ray-tracing and cell may render ray-tracing but probably multiple processors can generate that not a single Cell processor the one in our PS3...

not sure though cause cant remember properly what the article said...

I don't think it is REAL ray tracing, it's just some lighting effect :lol: anyway it's good enough for us :P looks cool anyway in that building :)

its definately good enough, KZ2 looks amazing... cant wait till it gets released... however just pointed out that in an article i read a few things about ray-tracing but not being technical its better i avoid going into this subject..

ray-tracing or not, KZ2 looks sweet and from gameplay vids it looks like Guerilla are doing a great job also in the shooting mechanics / animation / mp etc etc..

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Weren't you the guy that also said Big Rigs > FORZA?

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What was the dev cycle on KZ2 again? And what is it on GEOW2?

Nuff said? We get a game, so on level with KZ2 that it's compared to it constantly, In fact we've had gears 1/2 before it's even hit. Seriously, I'm expecting the Jesus game here, I'm expecting Angels and God himself to hand me this game with the dev time it's had. If it's not the end all of..well everything then it's a huge let down, cause Epic can compete with it with a game that's had max 2 years dev time (at a guess, probably less)