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#1 DarthKalo
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For those of you that thought the images of KZ2 where to good to be true, you where right. The devs for the game have openly admitted to doctoring the screens. I personally think this is outragous considering screens are supposed to show you what games are going to look like. More false advertising for the KZ series, but why am I not suprised. Thoughts?

http://www.videogamer.com/news/10-12-2007-7068.html

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#2 dipper145
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it was kind of obvious when i saw them... they want the game to by hyped so people will buy that piece of garbage
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#3 EmperorSupreme
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Everyone said the original footage had too much grey. It looks like they added some color. I don't see any reason why this can't be in the final game. Big deal..

Here is the pic in question:

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#4 lantus
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You know Guerilla isn't they only one to have ever doctored their screenshots right?
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#5 DivergeUnify
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I was wondering why i never saw any jagged edges
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#6 KillaHalo2o9
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Again with the false acts. :?
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#7 Udsen
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They have more time to develop, give it time.
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#8 hiryu3
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wow if that is true most everyone should be mad at the upped video of Halo 3 and almost every other game in existence. EVERYONE DOES THIS. Why all the trash talk now?
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#9 Exeed_Orbit
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The game is rather grey yes. But I played Gears, and that didn't exactly fashion a plethora of colors either, yet I thoroughly enjoyed the game through and through. People are just looking at things to bash.
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#10 Taz-Bone
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Remove the "O" and add an "I"
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#11 -DreamTheater-
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Slap me across the face! These types of threads kill me a little bit everytime I see them.

It's not just Guerilla that polishes up their images. Many companies do that because they know their games look better in motion than in pictures.

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#12 kcm_117
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lol just like the "in-engine" original KZ2 trailer that they admitted was CGI later on??? This game is going to get downgrade after downgrade after downgrade until release, i just hope its better than its (Not Even A-Rated) Predecessor.
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#13 leviathan91
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Everyone said the original footage had too much grey. It looks like they added some color. I don't see any reason why this can't be in the final game. Big deal..

Here is the pic in question:

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Wow, the doctored pics look better. I guess it's because of the color lol. :P

I reserve my judgement on the game once it comes out but for now, it looks great.

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#14 Mordred19
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they only added COLOR, not better graphics to the picture. that's not outragous at all. maybe they plan to have a different color scheme to match the doctored shot in when they finish the game? did you consider that?
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#15 The_Crucible
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I'll go ahead and help you out, TC. You've only got part of the sotry.

First, just about every screenshot you see has been adjusted in some way.

Second, The shots that they are speaking of (not all) were taken from display, so they had to be touched up.

Also, the "original" version of the image is a frame snagged directly from video, so it's subject to a certain amount of blurring that's not necessarily an accurate depiction of gameplay frozen in that instant.Joystiq

Third, this says ZERO about the game itself. To even hint at that is nothing but ignoring the facts.

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#16 Pariah_001
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If they're not making a secret of doing it, then why are you plastering them for it? I don't recall seeing any other devs have a problem touching up their promotional material.

Furthermore: If you would please to note their play-throughs of the pre-alpha, you'll find that the touch-ups are dated. The only difference is color.

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#17 kcm_117
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wow if that is true most everyone should be mad at the upped video of Halo 3 and almost every other game in existence. EVERYONE DOES THIS. Why all the trash talk now?hiryu3

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#18 EmperorSupreme
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lol just like the "in-engine" original KZ2 trailer that they admitted was CGI later on??? This game is going to get downgrade after downgrade after downgrade until release, i just hope its better than its (Not Even A-Rated) Predecessor.kcm_117

Halo fans should be the last ones trash talking about CGI. I guess you don't remember Halo3 at E3 '06. Look at that supposed "in-game" footage and compare to the real Halo3. Not even close, Halo3 ended up not even being HD. lol

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#19 Ibacai
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They doctored the "latest" shots, not all of them. The exact quote is... "They are only the tiniest bit touched up. Short answer is yes. Long answer is that there was a little bit of colour-correction done and some minor polish, but nothing major. Still very close to reality and it looks better in motion in my opinion." And practically every single company has doctored pictures. It's not something I like but it's nothing new.
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#20 TREAL_Since
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He said that the color was touched up along with some minor touches. The game still looks amazing, but not as vibrant as those news pictures :(.

I hope by time of release that KZ2's color pallete looks as good as those new pics. Everything else is fine so far.

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#21 DarthKalo
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Remove the "O" and add an "I"Taz-Bone
Yeah, that's why I structured the sentence that way.

Also, I am bringing this up because this game has been hyped only because of it's graphics. Now that the graphics are proven false, what else does this game have going for it?

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#22 Udsen
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Killzone 2 looks great now, and it will when it's released. I'm so, so sorry you're insecure.
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#23 DarthKalo
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Killzone 2 looks great now, and it will when it's released. I'm so, so sorry you're insecure.Udsen

Ah, I get to play fanboy sometimes too!

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#24 Ibacai
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[QUOTE="Taz-Bone"]Remove the "O" and add an "I"DarthKalo

Yeah, that's why I structured the sentence that way.

Also, I am bringing this up because this game has been hyped only because of it's graphics. Now that the graphics are proven false, what else does this game have going for it?

The graphics are proven false? No, the new shots have been shown to be doctored, nothing more. The vids from E3 still look pretty darn good. Now, about the hype for KZ2, I would agree that most hype it because of graphics. But I would hope some are hyping it because of the story, gameplay, and presentation shown in the first. The main problem the first had was technical issues, which there were a lot of.
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#25 cecx
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A lot of devs. do this...nothing new.
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#26 niall077
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so I guess they edited the gameplay vids aswell... and all the handcam footage and stuff?
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#27 Khanezhyray
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Again with the false acts. :?KillaHalo2o9

....slightly doctored. Slightly. And it's freaking color. It just means they took the actual gameplay screen and added a few lighting effects. Most likely they'll be in the final game, they just weren't finished with them at the time the screenshots were supposed to go out. People are taking this too far. The images were edited slightly and only for color. Easily fixable in the actual game.

Oh, and it's only the latest batch of screenshots. Not the gameplay footage at E3.

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Two words: Flop Zone.
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#29 Vis-a-Vis
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I feel bad for Guerilla right now, I mean Sony has KZ2 hyped up and beyond the stratosphere. It's unreal to think that KZ2 will live up to the hype right now, with every detail being scrutinized and with Sony on their back, they must be under immense pressure.

Needless to say a ton of devs spruce up their photos, especially this early in development so it better reflects what the actual retail product will look like.

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#30 Always-Honest
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oh my god... this again......

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#31 Udsen
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Two words: Flop Zone. rlake

Two words: Fission Mailed.

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#32 KillaHalo2o9
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[QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]Again with the false acts. :?Khanezhyray

....slightly doctored. Slightly. And it's freaking color. It just means they took the actual gameplay screen and added a few lighting effects. Most likely they'll be in the final game, they just weren't finished with them at the time the screenshots were supposed to go out. People are taking this too far. The images were edited slightly and only for color. Easily fixable in the actual game.

Oh, and it's only the latest batch of screenshots. Not the gameplay footage at E3.

Wow, someone is mad.

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#33 DarthKalo
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[QUOTE="Khanezhyray"]

[QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]Again with the false acts. :?KillaHalo2o9

....slightly doctored. Slightly. And it's freaking color. It just means they took the actual gameplay screen and added a few lighting effects. Most likely they'll be in the final game, they just weren't finished with them at the time the screenshots were supposed to go out. People are taking this too far. The images were edited slightly and only for color. Easily fixable in the actual game.

Oh, and it's only the latest batch of screenshots. Not the gameplay footage at E3.

Wow, someone is mad.

If you guys look at the gun in the screens EmperorSupreme supplied it shows that more than just the color was altered. Also the E3 "gameplay" footage has been proven to be 100% CGI!
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#34 Ibacai
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[QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"][QUOTE="Khanezhyray"]

[QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]Again with the false acts. :?DarthKalo

....slightly doctored. Slightly. And it's freaking color. It just means they took the actual gameplay screen and added a few lighting effects. Most likely they'll be in the final game, they just weren't finished with them at the time the screenshots were supposed to go out. People are taking this too far. The images were edited slightly and only for color. Easily fixable in the actual game.

Oh, and it's only the latest batch of screenshots. Not the gameplay footage at E3.

Wow, someone is mad.

If you guys look at the gun in the screens EmperorSupreme supplied it shows that more than just the color was altered. Also the E3 "gameplay" footage has been proven to be 100% CGI!

Not this years E3 footage as people were actually playing it...
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#35 100Gamer
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they just want ppl to buy the sequel to a piece of crap game. how sad :lol:
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#36 LibertySaint
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knew first thing, it was obvious, there is the weird or odd shapes you see and colors.....just learn2look, k2 still looks cool tho, idk about how fun, but it looks good.
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#37 EmperorSupreme
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[QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"][QUOTE="Khanezhyray"]

[QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]Again with the false acts. :?DarthKalo

....slightly doctored. Slightly. And it's freaking color. It just means they took the actual gameplay screen and added a few lighting effects. Most likely they'll be in the final game, they just weren't finished with them at the time the screenshots were supposed to go out. People are taking this too far. The images were edited slightly and only for color. Easily fixable in the actual game.

Oh, and it's only the latest batch of screenshots. Not the gameplay footage at E3.

Wow, someone is mad.

If you guys look at the gun in the screens EmperorSupreme supplied it shows that more than just the color was altered. Also the E3 "gameplay" footage has been proven to be 100% CGI!

At the last E3 some journalists got to play KillZone2. I don't understand how it could've been CGI when they actually got to play it. Also it's not unrealistic to see the game gettting better as it gets farther into development. Remember the game is still in development and screenshots at this stage are targets the developer is shooting for.

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#38 Mordred19
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He said that the color was touched up along with some minor touches. The game still looks amazing, but not as vibrant as those news pictures :(.

I hope by time of release that KZ2's color pallete looks as good as those new pics. Everything else is fine so far.

TREAL_Since

seeing as the touch up has changed the overall look, their intention might be to change the color pallete in the final game.

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I was wondering why i never saw any jagged edgesDivergeUnify

They only modified the color, didn't do anything else.

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#40 mistervengeance
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it's pre-alpha. you expect the pre-alpha shots to be an EXACT representation of the finished game?
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#41 TREAL_Since
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[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

He said that the color was touched up along with some minor touches. The game still looks amazing, but not as vibrant as those news pictures :(.

I hope by time of release that KZ2's color pallete looks as good as those new pics. Everything else is fine so far.

Mordred19

seeing as the touch up has changed the overall look, their intention might be to change the color pallete in the final game.

I hope so. Right now the gamma in the game is bright as all games are during the development process. I'm sure it will be darker and a bit bit more colorful when it releases.

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#42 gasmaskman
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[QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"][QUOTE="Khanezhyray"]

[QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]Again with the false acts. :?DarthKalo

....slightly doctored. Slightly. And it's freaking color. It just means they took the actual gameplay screen and added a few lighting effects. Most likely they'll be in the final game, they just weren't finished with them at the time the screenshots were supposed to go out. People are taking this too far. The images were edited slightly and only for color. Easily fixable in the actual game.

Oh, and it's only the latest batch of screenshots. Not the gameplay footage at E3.

Wow, someone is mad.

If you guys look at the gun in the screens EmperorSupreme supplied it shows that more than just the color was altered. Also the E3 "gameplay" footage has been proven to be 100% CGI!

While we're at it, let's go back in time to 2005.... Have you seen the new trailer? Have you heard all these reputable game journalists saying that the game does look THAT good in person, while seeing the game being played? Some have even played it. They've also said it's a massive step up from Killzone, so that's obviously a huge plus.

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#43 TREAL_Since
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it's pre-alpha. you expect the pre-alpha shots to be an EXACT representation of the finished game?mistervengeance

Exactly look at Halo 3 it got noticeably better. Nothing spectacular, but it was very noticeable. People should accept that this game looks great in pre-alpha and will most liekly look better by release.

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#44 Ragashahs
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they added alittle color so big deal it's not like others haven't done this. KZ2 could easily turn out like this if they decide to add alttle more color
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#45 Khanezhyray
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[QUOTE="DarthKalo"][QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"][QUOTE="Khanezhyray"]

[QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]Again with the false acts. :?EmperorSupreme

....slightly doctored. Slightly. And it's freaking color. It just means they took the actual gameplay screen and added a few lighting effects. Most likely they'll be in the final game, they just weren't finished with them at the time the screenshots were supposed to go out. People are taking this too far. The images were edited slightly and only for color. Easily fixable in the actual game.

Oh, and it's only the latest batch of screenshots. Not the gameplay footage at E3.

Wow, someone is mad.

If you guys look at the gun in the screens EmperorSupreme supplied it shows that more than just the color was altered. Also the E3 "gameplay" footage has been proven to be 100% CGI!

At the last E3 some journalists got to play KillZone2. I don't understand how it could've been CGI when they actually got to play it. Also it's not unrealistic to see the game gettting better as it gets farther into development. Remember the game is still in development and screenshots at this stage are targets the developer is shooting for.

Exactly :)

Look at it closely. E3 2006 was proven CGI. E3 2007 was playable. By journalists, nonetheless.

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#46 ProductNumber49
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They have more time to develop, give it time.Udsen

Just wait...

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#47 100Gamer
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[QUOTE="Udsen"]They have more time to develop, give it time.ProductNumber49

Just wait...

keep waiting cows :lol:

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#48 Zeliard9
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Everyone said the original footage had too much grey. It looks like they added some color. I don't see any reason why this can't be in the final game. Big deal..

Here is the pic in question:

comparison

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Too bad the added color is only a touch-up, because it looks much better.

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#49 leviathan91
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[QUOTE="Udsen"]They have more time to develop, give it time.ProductNumber49

Just wait...

That's the dumbest response yet. :|

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#50 B1ACK_MAGE
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A good amount of developers (or more likely publishers) doctor their shots, it's not that surprising