[QUOTE="inertk"]I know, I can't believe Crytek are using actual lighting models when they could just fake them. Hmmmmm. No. I can't agree with that, if anything it'll just prompt people to complain. People thought the mountains in GTHD were photos so they ridiculed them, they weren't photos but it turns out they weren't all that impressive to begin with. Figures.
Two things, not everyone can make anything look good with better hardware - I think Koei is truly an example as well as many other developers that have managed to churn out horrid looking games. I think the reality in it is, it takes talent to get such a sophisticated light model in a game instead of simply faking it.
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No, what I can't believe Crytekis doing are making graphics that best the 360 and PS3 library whilst creating a massive sandbox world. And they're optimizing it for PCs up to 3 years old. That's amazing.
We're talking about what's presumably a linear, run-of-the-mill shooter here. Now when the KZ2 video came out, it looked impressive. I don't believe it is ridiculously good as people say it is, but it was great. When someone told me that there were absolutely no shadows in the introduction of the demo, I could not help but be amazed how GG got away with that. Pre rendered lighting on weapons and certain environments? Seamless with the real time lighting effects. Another plus in my books.
Look anyone can chuck tens of millions of dollars to get talent on board, support, the latest software/hardware etc. I don't think Koei were given the same benefit that GG have, right?
Give a film producer $300 and he'll blow it on rentingHalogen lights or whatever expensive lighting equipment for one day. Now your film willhave perfect lighting on set.Give me $300 and I'll spend $5 on a reflective sunshade you use to keep your car from heating up. I'll reflect sunlight onto an actor's face in the outdoors and reflect lamp lights in the indoors; I'll give you the illusion I'm using professional equipment to shed light on my subjects. Who is more talented? Who looked more impressive?
It seems in the entertainment industries, you need to stand out from what little you got. When you get the job and the money to splurge, you don't need to worry about cutting corners so much, because you have a lot at your disposal. I feel that's half the challenge gone. I do not have $22,000 at my disposal to make a short film for my portfolio, yet I need to give whoever is interested something that looks professional. The same goes for the gaming industry from what I'm hearing. You're not going to get by creating a stick figure game from scratch with the excuse 'Well, it's all I can afford'. You'll need to think outside the box.
That's why I felt Killzone 2 was impressive with the illusion they gave us of a fantastic looking game. Well, it was fantastic, but I mean the illusion of a sophisicated engine.
You'd prefer the illusion of a sophisticated engine instead of it actually being advanced? I seriously can't understand your logic.
Also I don't understand why you seem to think there aren't any shadows in the opening sequence, you're either just not looking hard enough and at points.. Just not looking.
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