For some odd reason, Killzone 2 really reminds me of the game Black that was on xbox/ps2 last gen. It had really good looking effects and graphics, was hyped a fair bit but it seemed pretty generic.
I was a great game but it wasn't close to amazing. That's what i'm finding KZ2 to be, a great generic/corridor shooter that's well polished but nothing special.
For some odd reason, Killzone 2 really reminds me of the game Black that was on xbox/ps2 last gen. It had really good looking effects and graphics, was hyped a fair bit but it seemed pretty generic.
I was a great game but it wasn't close to amazing. That's what i'm finding KZ2 to be, a great generic/corridor shooter that's well polished but nothing special.
Anyone else agree?Faber_Fighter
That's actually a pretty good assessment IMO. I played it so long ago that I had to go back and look at footage, but it does remind me a lot of Black. I'm sure KZ2 will have a better variety of weapons and of course multiplayer but I don't see anything wrong with that comparison.
It somewhat does remind me of BLACK, but BLACK was coming out on last gen consoles when the 360 was out, so BLACK looked amazing for a ps2/xbox game, but we wasn't wowed by it because we was already tasting next gen. KZ2, on the other hand, had a tech demo in 05, in which sony lied about it being gameplay, and since sony lied about it being gameplay, they had to meet that target render or get extremely close. While they really didn't meet it or get extremely close, i think that they got very very close and that's what got analyst, journalist, and previewers all in a rage about this game visuals
For some odd reason, Killzone 2 really reminds me of the game Black that was on xbox/ps2 last gen. It had really good looking effects and graphics, was hyped a fair bit but it seemed pretty generic.
I was a great game but it wasn't close to amazing. That's what i'm finding KZ2 to be, a great generic/corridor shooter that's well polished but nothing special.
Anyone else agree?Faber_Fighter
DUDE GET THE F OUT OF MY MIND, I SWEAR I CAME TO THE PC JUST TO START THIS SAME THREAD. WE ARE MIND TWINS!!!! (for real) Anyway, YEAH! It looks a lot like black ... overuse of motion blur, very grey, great weapon models and animations, etc. But seriously get the f out my mind dude.
Black was dam impressive....for a PS2 title (the version i played). Gameplay was addictive and fun, thanks to being able to blow so much **** up, wish games like Halo had that destructibility.
BTW, i don't really see much of Black in Killzone 2...and Killzone 2 plays much better, IMO.
[QUOTE="Faber_Fighter"]For some odd reason, Killzone 2 really reminds me of the game Black that was on xbox/ps2 last gen. It had really good looking effects and graphics, was hyped a fair bit but it seemed pretty generic.
I was a great game but it wasn't close to amazing. That's what i'm finding KZ2 to be, a great generic/corridor shooter that's well polished but nothing special.
Anyone else agree?longshotgir
DUDE GET THE F OUT OF MY MIND, I SWEAR I CAME TO THE PC JUST TO START THIS SAME THREAD. WE ARE MIND TWINS!!!! (for real) Anyway, YEAH! It looks a lot like black ... overuse of motion blur, very grey, great weapon models and animations, etc. But seriously get the f out my mind dude. haha, maybe you should just gtfo out of my mind ;)
And im surpirsed to see that half the people think it's nothing alike and the other half think it's exactly the same lol.
Black's preview process was different than KZ2's. There was not a multiplayer beta that lasted for months (no MP at all :?) and most previews weren't based on half of the SP campaign but rather vertical splice demos.
Also, KZ2 has proven to be much more than a "generic corridor shooter". There is MUCH more to the game than what Black offered.
[QUOTE="longshotgir"][QUOTE="Faber_Fighter"]For some odd reason, Killzone 2 really reminds me of the game Black that was on xbox/ps2 last gen. It had really good looking effects and graphics, was hyped a fair bit but it seemed pretty generic.
I was a great game but it wasn't close to amazing. That's what i'm finding KZ2 to be, a great generic/corridor shooter that's well polished but nothing special.
Anyone else agree?Faber_Fighter
DUDE GET THE F OUT OF MY MIND, I SWEAR I CAME TO THE PC JUST TO START THIS SAME THREAD. WE ARE MIND TWINS!!!! (for real) Anyway, YEAH! It looks a lot like black ... overuse of motion blur, very grey, great weapon models and animations, etc. But seriously get the f out my mind dude. haha, maybe you should just gtfo out of my mind ;)
And im surpirsed to see that half the people think it's nothing alike and the other half think it's exactly the same lol. Well i mean the graphics, gunfights and style. They look alot to Black. Specially bcause of all the xplosive barrel next to groups of enemies O_o Anyway, the graphics remind me ALOT of black, but i mean ALOT. And it's not a bad thing because Black's graphics were awesome. Now imma go play black for the memories :P
WOOAH now that you mention it they DO look the same...and who else here thinks that Black was a really cool game? Sure it was some kind of technical demo (because of its short campaign and no multiplayer), but otherwise, it featured some groundbreaking stuff like a LOT of destructible environments, and really cool graphics and effects.
But maybe its a bad thing that a PS2/Xbox game looks like an upcoming PS3 game.
CT-Link, I loved Black. The enemy AI was bland, but other than that it was a great shooter with tons of amazing enviroments. If the AI was at F.E.A.R.s level, the game would have gotten 9s across the board.
For some odd reason, Killzone 2 really reminds me of the game Black that was on xbox/ps2 last gen. It had really good looking effects and graphics, was hyped a fair bit but it seemed pretty generic.
I was a great game but it wasn't close to amazing. That's what i'm finding KZ2 to be, a great generic/corridor shooter that's well polished but nothing special.
Anyone else agree?Faber_Fighter
Oh so you've played the beta? I suppose Killzone 2 isn't everyone's cup of tea.
WOOAH now that you mention it they DO look the same...and who else here thinks that Black was a really cool game? Sure it was some kind of technical demo (because of its short campaign and no multiplayer), but otherwise, it featured some groundbreaking stuff like a LOT of destructible environments, and really cool graphics and effects.
But maybe its a bad thing that a PS2/Xbox game looks like an upcoming PS3 game.
CT-Link
It's not really that it looks the same, but just the feel of it being kinda the same. I wouldn't find it a bad thing even if it was anyways, Black was a great game that just needed to have more time put into it to make it longer imo.
For some odd reason, Killzone 2 really reminds me of the game Black that was on xbox/ps2 last gen. It had really good looking effects and graphics, was hyped a fair bit but it seemed pretty generic.
I was a great game but it wasn't close to amazing. That's what i'm finding KZ2 to be, a great generic/corridor shooter that's well polished but nothing special.
I just pulled out Black again today since I never got further than the second mission I think but never actually had a problem with it, just other games to play. Man, that game is pretty much a sure-fire reason to buy a surround sound system...you can feel every shot.
I see the connection between KZ2 and Black. Only difference IMO is that Killzone 2 doesn't seem to have the same punch in its weapons that Black has. Graphics sure are pretty though :D I'll probably end up picking it up just for a nice showcase for the PS3, even if the gameplay turns out to be a pretty straightforward shooter.
Black was a great FPS though didnt have much replay value as opposed to KZ2 with its mp modes.... i also agree these 2 games resemble in some ways to each other....
However we'll have to wait till Feb 09 to see if they are really similar, but i think once we play KZ2 we'll just realise how amazing & superior to other FPS games out on consoles it really is...
no KZ2 is completely different. your right to say both were hyped becuase of graphics but KZ2 is so much more. i was in the beta it not only is a visual masterpeice but the gameplay is fresh but doesn't try to do too much
I'm pretty sure people were excited about Black, because the devs pretty much admitted it was a by-the-numbers, cliche shooter, but that was the point of the game. KZ 2 is a generic, by-the-numbers game, but the devs are hyping it as being original or something. That's the difference.
Black's preview process was different than KZ2's. There was not a multiplayer beta that lasted for months (no MP at all :?) and most previews weren't based on half of the SP campaign but rather vertical splice demos.
Also, KZ2 has proven to be much more than a "generic corridor shooter". There is MUCH more to the game than what Black offered.
Episode_Eve
Hey. I love KZ2 and all, but you waaaaaaay overhype this game. What's not generic about it? Its graphics. Same with Black.
Black's preview process was different than KZ2's. There was not a multiplayer beta that lasted for months (no MP at all :?) and most previews weren't based on half of the SP campaign but rather vertical splice demos.
Also, KZ2 has proven to be much more than a "generic corridor shooter". There is MUCH more to the game than what Black offered.
cuddlesofwar
Hey. I love KZ2 and all, but you waaaaaaay overhype this game. What's not generic about it? Its graphics. Same with Black. The look of the game is probably the most generic thing about it! :lol: Ooh, dark and gritty warzone...oh yeah, that's so original.
Black's preview process was different than KZ2's. There was not a multiplayer beta that lasted for months (no MP at all :?) and most previews weren't based on half of the SP campaign but rather vertical splice demos.
Also, KZ2 has proven to be much more than a "generic corridor shooter". There is MUCH more to the game than what Black offered.
GinoNYC
Hey. I love KZ2 and all, but you waaaaaaay overhype this game. What's not generic about it? Its graphics. Same with Black. The look of the game is probably the most generic thing about it! :lol: Ooh, dark and gritty warzone...oh yeah, that's so original. Eh ... maybe, but it does it to a level thats not often seen. Black and KZ2 are very similar in looks.
Can we please get a definition of what "generic" is in when speaking of FPS games. It should be a forum rule that if you chose to use the word generic in SW you have to write a definition as a foot note.
Can we please get a definition of what "generic" is in when speaking of FPS games. It should be a forum rule that if you chose to use the word generic in SW you have to write a definition as a foot note.II_Seraphim_II
Good point. I would class KZ2 as fairly generic. Heck I firmly believe Halo 3 is a genric shooter and yet I love the game. You can be generic and still be very good. Not every game has to re-write the rule book on gameplay etc.
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