Killzone 2 = still the Most Technically Advanced Console Game (Crysis 2 who?)

All talk of Crysis 2 on consoles being non linear open world this and that...blah blah. How about try doing quater mile sized Multiplayer maps (Not single player where everything is scripted) with 32 players total, and I'm not even counting the turrets and sentry drones. All gun muzzle lighting creates shadows (list another console game that has this feature?)and all shotgun have an attached flashlight which creates shadows when shined on anything. All @720p (subHD is so last Gen) and even the framerate doesn't choke as bad as the Crysis 2 campaign, none the less the multiplayer. And yes the insane amounts of motion blur, both camera and per object, which is very taxing on hardware, complete with anti aliasing. Still have some of the best explosions/ smoke particles and best character animations. The insane amounts of beautiful lens flare that even Battlefield 3 can't seem to get right. Wow this game was way ahead of it's time. In fact, it pushed the PS3 so far that even the XMB gets laggy. And No Uncharted 2 never beated Killzone 2 graphically. Colors Doesn't = Better graphics.

All talk of Crysis 2 on consoles being non linear open world this and that...blah blah. How about try doing quater mile sized Multiplayer maps (Not single player where everything is scripted) with 32 players total, and I'm not even counting the turrets and sentry drones. All gun muzzle lighting creates shadows (list another console game that has this feature?)and all shotgun have an attached flashlight which creates shadows when shined on anything. All @720p (subHD is so last Gen) and even the framerate doesn't choke as bad as the Crysis 2 campaign, none the less the multiplayer. And yes the insane amounts of motion blur, both camera and per object, which is very taxing on hardware, complete with anti aliasing. Still have some of the best explosions/ smoke particles and best character animations. The insane amounts of beautiful lens flare that even Battlefield 3 can't seem to get right. Wow this game was way ahead of it's time. In fact, it pushed the PS3 so far that even the XMB gets laggy. And No Uncharted 2 never beated Killzone 2 graphically. Colors Doesn't = Better graphics.

rich-sac

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All talk of Crysis 2 on consoles being non linear open world this and that...blah blah. How about try doing quater mile sized Multiplayer maps (Not single player where everything is scripted) with 32 players total, and I'm not even counting the turrets and sentry drones. All gun muzzle lighting creates shadows (list another console game that has this feature?)and all shotgun have an attached flashlight which creates shadows when shined on anything. All @720p (subHD is so last Gen) and even the framerate doesn't choke as bad as the Crysis 2 campaign, none the less the multiplayer. And yes the insane amounts of motion blur, both camera and per object, which is very taxing on hardware, complete with anti aliasing. Still have some of the best explosions/ smoke particles and best character animations. The insane amounts of beautiful lens flare that even Battlefield 3 can't seem to get right. Wow this game was way ahead of it's time. In fact, it pushed the PS3 so far that even the XMB gets laggy. And No Uncharted 2 never beated Killzone 2 graphically. Colors Doesn't = Better graphics.

dotWithShoes

7,000+ players on week days. 10,000+ on weekends

Well I thought it was the other way around. Crysis 2 looks worse than KZ3 but is more technically advanced because it does everything in real time. ocstew

Crysis 2 on consoles is not 100% realtime everything. Only PC version. some shadows can be seen clearly painted onto textures. even Digitalfoundry confirmed this

Crysis 2 on consoles is still the only time a console game has made me go "WOW!" because of the graphics this generation.

[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"][QUOTE="rich-sac"]

All talk of Crysis 2 on consoles being non linear open world this and that...blah blah. How about try doing quater mile sized Multiplayer maps (Not single player where everything is scripted) with 32 players total, and I'm not even counting the turrets and sentry drones. All gun muzzle lighting creates shadows (list another console game that has this feature?)and all shotgun have an attached flashlight which creates shadows when shined on anything. All @720p (subHD is so last Gen) and even the framerate doesn't choke as bad as the Crysis 2 campaign, none the less the multiplayer. And yes the insane amounts of motion blur, both camera and per object, which is very taxing on hardware, complete with anti aliasing. Still have some of the best explosions/ smoke particles and best character animations. The insane amounts of beautiful lens flare that even Battlefield 3 can't seem to get right. Wow this game was way ahead of it's time. In fact, it pushed the PS3 so far that even the XMB gets laggy. And No Uncharted 2 never beated Killzone 2 graphically. Colors Doesn't = Better graphics.

rich-sac

7,000+ players on week days. 10,000+ on weekends

I think killzone 3 is the best looking console game, but it just comes down to preference for the big contenders for top console graphics. All of them do certain things better than the others, there is no way to legitimately say one is better than the others, it is just preference on what features are most important to you.ferret-gamer

yes Killzone 3 is sharper than KZ2 and have a superior draw distance. But all at the cost of ridding of the dynamic lighting system, reducing the quality of the particle effects, scrapping the destructible environments, lowering player count, etc. Do you notice that their new smoke effects are weak as hell, especially the smoke from the mortar beacon. it's almost 2D and only stays for about 1 second before dissapearing.

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[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"] People still play KZ2?dotWithShoes

7,000+ players on week days. 10,000+ on weekends

that's all? You really expect more than 10,000 people to play a game with heavy 50lb controls? Everyone wants feather light COD responsiveness

[QUOTE="ocstew"]Well I thought it was the other way around. Crysis 2 looks worse than KZ3 but is more technically advanced because it does everything in real time. rich-sac

Crysis 2 on consoles is not 100% realtime everything. Only PC version. some shadows can be seen clearly painted onto textures. even Digitalfoundry confirmed this

[QUOTE="rich-sac"]

[QUOTE="ocstew"]Well I thought it was the other way around. Crysis 2 looks worse than KZ3 but is more technically advanced because it does everything in real time. ocstew

Crysis 2 on consoles is not 100% realtime everything. Only PC version. some shadows can be seen clearly painted onto textures. even Digitalfoundry confirmed this

the Title of the Thread says Killzone 2. Not KZ3...which looks like crap

[QUOTE="ocstew"][QUOTE="rich-sac"]

Crysis 2 on consoles is not 100% realtime everything. Only PC version. some shadows can be seen clearly painted onto textures. even Digitalfoundry confirmed this

rich-sac

the Title of the Thread says Killzone 2. Not KZ3...which looks like crap

I don't know what game is technically the most advanced console game, but I do know it isn't Crysis 2. The reason is because the game can't keep a steady framerate, so it's obvious the engine isn't capable of doing what it's trying to do. If the game ran smoothly, the situation may be different, but as it is it just isn't in the running because it doesn't perform properly while attempting to do "everything" in real time, which is a bunch of crap anyway.

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[QUOTE="ocstew"] Nope. That's wrong, Digital Foundry would never say that because it's not true. Link? Basically when Crysis 2 first came out: Crysis 2 does full scene and dynamic lens flare > KZ3's hand picked static lens flare Crysis 2 did actual HDR > Bloom and clipping in lower brightness from KZ3 Crysis 2 does SSAO > No real time ambient occlusion from KZ3, only prebaked Crysis 2 has only lights that are dynamic, and can be moved or shot out > KZ3 static lighting + flashlight that casts shadows Crysis 2 does dynamic oceans and water propagation > KZ3's predone oceans, yet much better water propagation Crysis 2 is filled with props that can be physically moved> Static world KZ3 does better animation and ragdoll > Crysis 2's clunky ragdolls and death animations KZ3 does better textures > Crysis 2 has too many low res textures because of the scale and variety of the city KZ3 does better blur (per pixel) > Crysis 2's per object Note this is all about console versions. Not Crysis 2 PC.ocstew

the Title of the Thread says Killzone 2. Not KZ3...which looks like crap

and from what i heard dont expect uncharted 3 to out do killzone 3...eboyishere

amen

I thought UC2 and Crysis 2 looked better than it.soulitane

no. uc2 grafix are overrated cartoony, no AA, piss poor draw distance, 1mm thick texture crap with very over the top saturated colors to trick the eyes

[QUOTE="soulitane"]I thought UC2 and Crysis 2 looked better than it.rich-sac

no. uc2 grafix are overrated cartoony, no AA, piss poor draw distance, 1mm thick texture crap with very over the top saturated colors to trick the eyes

[QUOTE="rich-sac"]

[QUOTE="soulitane"]I thought UC2 and Crysis 2 looked better than it.ocstew

no. uc2 grafix are overrated cartoony, no AA, piss poor draw distance, 1mm thick texture crap with very over the top saturated colors to trick the eyes

let me add the smokeless grenade explosions lol

[QUOTE="eboyishere"]once again killzone 3- looks better in motion crysis 2- still and from what i heard dont expect uncharted 3 to out do killzone 3...IDoItLikeAboss

no as in uncharted 3 probably wont be the graphics leader it will probably be killzone 3

[QUOTE="soulitane"]I thought UC2 and Crysis 2 looked better than it.rich-sac

no. uc2 grafix are overrated cartoony, no AA, piss poor draw distance, 1mm thick texture crap with very over the top saturated colors to trick the eyes

Killzone 2 is a horrible game. SAGE_OF_FIRE

doesn't stop it from being the most technically advanced console game

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]Killzone 2 is a horrible game. rich-sac

doesn't stop it from being the most technically advanced console game

[QUOTE="rich-sac"]

[QUOTE="soulitane"]I thought UC2 and Crysis 2 looked better than it.IDoItLikeAboss

no. uc2 grafix are overrated cartoony, no AA, piss poor draw distance, 1mm thick texture crap with very over the top saturated colors to trick the eyes

2 character on screen in a super linear pathway, compared to 32 players on screen in a quarter mile sized map

Crysis 2 on consoles is still the only time a console game has made me go "WOW!" because of the graphics this generation.

Ly_the_Fairy

[QUOTE="rich-sac"]

[QUOTE="soulitane"]I thought UC2 and Crysis 2 looked better than it.IDoItLikeAboss

no. uc2 grafix are overrated cartoony, no AA, piss poor draw distance, 1mm thick texture crap with very over the top saturated colors to trick the eyes

Overrated.

[QUOTE="rich-sac"]

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]Killzone 2 is a horrible game. SAGE_OF_FIRE

doesn't stop it from being the most technically advanced console game

Blur is very taxing, 360 games are barely catching up in this department. Textures are great compared to Crysis 2. quarter mile sized maps with 32 players is anything but small environments. keep hating

[QUOTE="IDoItLikeAboss"][QUOTE="rich-sac"]

no. uc2 grafix are overrated cartoony, no AA, piss poor draw distance, 1mm thick texture crap with very over the top saturated colors to trick the eyes

rich-sac

2 character on screen in a super linear pathway, compared to 32 players on screen in a quarter mile sized map

[QUOTE="IDoItLikeAboss"][QUOTE="rich-sac"]

no. uc2 grafix are overrated cartoony, no AA, piss poor draw distance, 1mm thick texture crap with very over the top saturated colors to trick the eyes

ferret-gamer

Overrated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CBd6QX8npsIDoItLikeAboss

All talk of Crysis 2 on consoles being non linear open world this and that...blah blah. How about try doing quater mile sized Multiplayer maps (Not single player where everything is scripted) with 32 players total, and I'm not even counting the turrets and sentry drones. All gun muzzle lighting creates shadows (list another console game that has this feature?)and all shotgun have an attached flashlight which creates shadows when shined on anything. All @720p (subHD is so last Gen) and even the framerate doesn't choke as bad as the Crysis 2 campaign, none the less the multiplayer. And yes the insane amounts of motion blur, both camera and per object, which is very taxing on hardware, complete with anti aliasing. Still have some of the best explosions/ smoke particles and best character animations. The insane amounts of beautiful lens flare that even Battlefield 3 can't seem to get right. Wow this game was way ahead of it's time. In fact, it pushed the PS3 so far that even the XMB gets laggy. And No Uncharted 2 never beated Killzone 2 graphically. Colors Doesn't = Better graphics.

rich-sac

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[QUOTE="IDoItLikeAboss"] Lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qnM2IgoWaY There is no way Uncharted's graphics are over ratedIDoItLikeAboss

Overrated.

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]Killzone 2 is a horrible game. rich-sac

doesn't stop it from being the most technically advanced console game

I don't know what game is technically the most advanced console game, but I do know it isn't Crysis 2. The reason is because the game can't keep a steady framerate, so it's obvious the engine isn't capable of doing what it's trying to do. If the game ran smoothly, the situation may be different, but as it is it just isn't in the running because it doesn't perform properly while attempting to do "everything" in real time, which is a bunch of crap anyway.

Pug-Nasty

People just pick and choose what is important. It's like me saying "Uncharted Drake's Fortune can't be considered a graphically impressive game because it has screen tearing".

Crysis 2 is undoubtedly more technically advanced than Killzone 2. On the other hand Killzone 2 runs a little better. Then again, Super Mario 64 also runs better than Crysis 2, but that doesn't mean that Crysis 2 doesn't look vastly better.

[QUOTE="rich-sac"]

[QUOTE="IDoItLikeAboss"] Lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qnM2IgoWaY There is no way Uncharted's graphics are over ratedIDoItLikeAboss

2 character on screen in a super linear pathway, compared to 32 players on screen in a quarter mile sized map

You are clearly mega biased in favor of PS3 exclusives. Sorry, but inFamous 2 is not really that impressive. Other open world games such as Red Dead Redemption and Assassin's Creed both look much better. inFamous 2 has low res textures, poor draw distance (for an open world game), and lots of jaggies.

Killzone 2 looks very good.

There no huge difference and its honestly hard to tell which looks better.

Explosions look better in Crysis 2.

Currently playing crysis 2 on Hardcore settings on my 40 led, same with my ps3.

Well I thought it was the other way around. Crysis 2 looks worse than KZ3 but is more technically advanced because it does everything in real time. ocstew

This is how i see it. Red Dead Redemption is also one of the most impressive.

All talk of Crysis 2 on consoles being non linear open world this and that...blah blah. How about try doing quater mile sized Multiplayer maps (Not single player where everything is scripted) with 32 players total, and I'm not even counting the turrets and sentry drones. All gun muzzle lighting creates shadows (list another console game that has this feature?)and all shotgun have an attached flashlight which creates shadows when shined on anything. All @720p (subHD is so last Gen) and even the framerate doesn't choke as bad as the Crysis 2 campaign, none the less the multiplayer. And yes the insane amounts of motion blur, both camera and per object, which is very taxing on hardware, complete with anti aliasing. Still have some of the best explosions/ smoke particles and best character animations. The insane amounts of beautiful lens flare that even Battlefield 3 can't seem to get right. Wow this game was way ahead of it's time. In fact, it pushed the PS3 so far that even the XMB gets laggy. And No Uncharted 2 never beated Killzone 2 graphically. Colors Doesn't = Better graphics.

rich-sac

Is there a game that has more lens flares than Crysis 2 honestly?Crysis 2 is more impressive game,techincally.KZ2/3 don't have HDR,they have alot of baked lights and shadowss,Crysis 2=100% real time.

Doesn't change the fact that it was a borefest.