Killzone 2 = The Hungry Lion - Halo 3 = Tired and Old Lion

I know people are laughing at us cows for hyping this game. But the way I see it is very simple and clear so please take a look at it if you will....thru Cow-Vision...

1. Halo 1 was great...Halo 2 vastly underwhelmed.....single player was distasteful...multiplayer saved it. Now we see Halo 3...despite looking decent we are promised some godlike Crysis uber upgrade because it's a beta lol. Come one people...Beta...are you serious? What you see is what your going to get. Period. Halo Wars? I lol'd myself. I still think Halo will be good but the series is heading down not up...

2. Killzone started mediocre then improved VASTLY! Killzone went from 6.9 to 8.5!! It shows that the lion on the bottom is indeed more hungry then the lion on top. The silence is an obvious poker face on the side of Sony. With all the talented people and money poured into a company that has proven it wants the number one spot....I think they may very well get it....plus they have the ability to harness a greater power from the PS3 with EDGE tools thats we will start seeing this fall (apparently a LOT of problems PS3 games have been having have been solved since their inception)

I hope you understand where we cows are coming from now. :D *grazes on pastures peacefully and with pride*

You honestly can not change the fps with that horrid duel shock setup.

I must admit, I do have higher hopes for Killzone 2 than Halo 3

to me, Halo is starting to feel a bit tired, same ol same ol. With the added power of PS3, I reckon that Killzone 2 might be able to match the vision that the developers had for the first game, but were shot down because of the weaker hardware of the PS2.

Only time shall tell though. I am sure that both games will be well recieved. 

Say what you want, halo 3 could well be the best online experience on consoles ever. The new saved videos feature could file cheaters after one game, and people won't be happy to lose their achievements because of a small chance of topping the leaderboards. Also the gameplay impressions from the beta ranged from great to godly, so I have high hopes.

On a side note, a bad part 2 doesn't mean a bad part 3. There are lots of examples of this including THPS and Call of duty. (think third was better right?)

Shazenabmeganosh

huh?

Say what you want, halo 3 could well be the best online experience on consoles ever. The new saved videos feature could file cheaters after one game, and people won't be happy to lose their achievements because of a small chance of topping the leaderboards. Also the gameplay impressions from the beta ranged from great to godly, so I have high hopes.

On a side note, a bad part 2 doesn't mean a bad part 3. There are lots of examples of this including THPS and Call of duty. (think third was better right?)

11Marcel

As any TRUE Halo fan can tell you Halo had a far better story than Halo 2 and far better level design. Point is Bungie's sequel underwhelmed the fans of the series....conversly Killzone's fans were delighted to have a healthy addition to the series in the form of Liberation which was very well recieved.

I believe Halo 3 will do good. I also believe that the games graphics will remain the same as what we are seeing in the beta with very MINOR additions, nothing that could even slightly be called major. Killzone 2 however...several people have reported that the game is coming along very well. PLus the team making the game is roughly 12 times larger than the original team.

Say what you want, halo 3 could well be the best online experience on consoles ever. The new saved videos feature could file cheaters after one game, and people won't be happy to lose their achievements because of a small chance of topping the leaderboards. Also the gameplay impressions from the beta ranged from great to godly, so I have high hopes.

On a side note, a bad part 2 doesn't mean a bad part 3. There are lots of examples of this including THPS and Call of duty. (think third was better right?)

11Marcel

Also, a bad Part 1 doesn't mean a bad Part 2. :)

Killzone2=the lion that is smoke and mirrors

Halo 3=the lion that ACTUALLY exists in the form shown.
WilliamRLBaker

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]Killzone2=the lion that is smoke and mirrors

Halo 3=the lion that ACTUALLY exists in the form shown.
NextGenNow

heres the deal, We've yet to see gameplay that looks exactly like the CGI shown at e3 2005 the one where sony lied and said THIS IS REAL TIME Gameplay.

so untill then my statement is fact, We've seen halo 3 beta and it OBVIOUSLY looks better then halo 2 any one who says different has fanboy goggles on, The enviorments are more dense, water looks better, snow looks better, textures look better, weapon models, spartan models...ect look better, explosions look better, physics look better..ect

So we have killzone 2 or is it 3 now? lol not sure bout it cause the first was so bad i kind of glazed over the whole game....Any ways killzone 2 has nothing to show for being as good or better looking then the cgi promised that was real time by sony at e3 2005, so till then i still by my statement.


Killzone2=the lion that really doesn't exist in the form promised

Halo 3=The lion that every one is hyped for, and has an offiical thread dedicated to it at the top of the page since the beta footage was released cause of the 5b threads being posted....and actually shows as being what was promised...

I must admit, I do have higher hopes for Killzone 2 than Halo 3

to me, Halo is starting to feel a bit tired, same ol same ol. With the added power of PS3, I reckon that Killzone 2 might be able to match the vision that the developers had for the first game, but were shot down because of the weaker hardware of the PS2.

Only time shall tell though. I am sure that both games will be well recieved.

No_Im_Not

While your opinion of Halo is respected I must say I disagree with you about your theory of more power = better game. If the Killzone devs had the talent to live up to its hype, Killzone 1 would have been a great game. You cant blame the hardware for the lack of a unpolished game. The PS2 was capable of handling the game Black and Call of Duty 3 which was rated better than Killzone. While we would assume the great devs of the industry are taking advantage of the PS3 hardware, in the hands of subpar devs (Guerilla), its just a piece of wasted technology.....a large beautiful canvas, for a artist who draw stick people.

Game On... 

[QUOTE="NextGenNow"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]Killzone2=the lion that is smoke and mirrors

Halo 3=the lion that ACTUALLY exists in the form shown.
WilliamRLBaker

heres the deal, We've yet to see gameplay that looks exactly like the CGI shown at e3 2005 the one where sony lied and said THIS IS REAL TIME Gameplay.

so untill then my statement is fact, We've seen halo 3 beta and it OBVIOUSLY looks better then halo 2 any one who says different has fanboy goggles on, The enviorments are more dense, water looks better, snow looks better, textures look better, weapon models, spartan models...ect look better, explosions look better, physics look better..ect

So we have killzone 2 or is it 3 now? lol not sure bout it cause the first was so bad i kind of glazed over the whole game....Any ways killzone 2 has nothing to show for being as good or better looking then the cgi promised that was real time by sony at e3 2005, so till then i still by my statement.


Killzone2=the lion that really doesn't exist in the form promised

Halo 3=The lion that every one is hyped for, and has an offiical thread dedicated to it at the top of the page since the beta footage was released cause of the 5b threads being posted....and actually shows as being what was promised...

1. EDGE Tools - Have been reported as fixing literally all poblems with game design that has plagued current PS3 ports and games in general. R & Clank being one such title to use it.

2. Killzone as a series has gone up. Halo as a sereis has gone down.

3. We have seen Halo 3 and yes we will have to wait to see Killzone 2. I am sure the tunes are going to change when it is shown. The ONLY thing that held Killzone 1 back were the hardware issues of the PS2 (yes yes other games looked good but Killzone 1 if on Xbox would have been a different game.) Now with a powerful console utilizing tools that make game design easy and efficient.....I firmly believe Killzone 2 will shock people. The trailer will be very cinematic showing gameplay elements that amaze people...elements that could never be fully realized before now.

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

[QUOTE="NextGenNow"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]Killzone2=the lion that is smoke and mirrors

Halo 3=the lion that ACTUALLY exists in the form shown.
NextGenNow

heres the deal, We've yet to see gameplay that looks exactly like the CGI shown at e3 2005 the one where sony lied and said THIS IS REAL TIME Gameplay.

so untill then my statement is fact, We've seen halo 3 beta and it OBVIOUSLY looks better then halo 2 any one who says different has fanboy goggles on, The enviorments are more dense, water looks better, snow looks better, textures look better, weapon models, spartan models...ect look better, explosions look better, physics look better..ect

So we have killzone 2 or is it 3 now? lol not sure bout it cause the first was so bad i kind of glazed over the whole game....Any ways killzone 2 has nothing to show for being as good or better looking then the cgi promised that was real time by sony at e3 2005, so till then i still by my statement.


Killzone2=the lion that really doesn't exist in the form promised

Halo 3=The lion that every one is hyped for, and has an offiical thread dedicated to it at the top of the page since the beta footage was released cause of the 5b threads being posted....and actually shows as being what was promised...

1. EDGE Tools - Have been reported as fixing literally all poblems with game design that has plagued current PS3 ports and games in general. R & Clank being one such title to use it.

2. Killzone as a series has gone up. Halo as a sereis has gone down.

3. We have seen Halo 3 and yes we will have to wait to see Killzone 2. I am sure the tunes are going to change when it is shown. The ONLY thing that held Killzone 1 back were the hardware issues of the PS2 (yes yes other games looked good but Killzone 1 if on Xbox would have been a different game.) Now with a powerful console utilizing tools that make game design easy and efficient.....I firmly believe Killzone 2 will shock people. The trailer will be very cinematic showing gameplay elements that amaze people...elements that could never be fully realized before now.

and untill we see some thing that shows killzone 2 is exactly what was promised then it will be a flop, Sony lied and said the e3 2005 cgi was real time gameplay, and unless KZ2 looks exactly as promised then it will all ways be a flop, Blame sony for this they're the ones that lied, But its a simple fact in system wars culture, If a game is promised to be something and doesn't deleiver then its a flop...

P.S: halo  has gone down? really?  last time i checked  Killzone wasn't one of the most purchased and played fps games on a console like halo is.

Last time i checked killzone the series didn't have 5+ books created, a movie in the planning, 2 other spin off games one being unknown and created and directed by peter jackson, and one being created and devd by ensemble studios and its going to be an RTS....

So how is halo going down comparred to killzone again?

This thread is hyping Killzone 2 and yet saying its not hyped at the same time.

The best thing is to just keep quiet about KZ2 and wait to see how it turns out.

But yes Killzone Liberation was really fun and very under rated. Perhaps KZ2 should just be a third person shooter instead.

[QUOTE="NextGenNow"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

[QUOTE="NextGenNow"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]Killzone2=the lion that is smoke and mirrors

Halo 3=the lion that ACTUALLY exists in the form shown.
WilliamRLBaker

heres the deal, We've yet to see gameplay that looks exactly like the CGI shown at e3 2005 the one where sony lied and said THIS IS REAL TIME Gameplay.

so untill then my statement is fact, We've seen halo 3 beta and it OBVIOUSLY looks better then halo 2 any one who says different has fanboy goggles on, The enviorments are more dense, water looks better, snow looks better, textures look better, weapon models, spartan models...ect look better, explosions look better, physics look better..ect

So we have killzone 2 or is it 3 now? lol not sure bout it cause the first was so bad i kind of glazed over the whole game....Any ways killzone 2 has nothing to show for being as good or better looking then the cgi promised that was real time by sony at e3 2005, so till then i still by my statement.


Killzone2=the lion that really doesn't exist in the form promised

Halo 3=The lion that every one is hyped for, and has an offiical thread dedicated to it at the top of the page since the beta footage was released cause of the 5b threads being posted....and actually shows as being what was promised...

1. EDGE Tools - Have been reported as fixing literally all poblems with game design that has plagued current PS3 ports and games in general. R & Clank being one such title to use it.

2. Killzone as a series has gone up. Halo as a sereis has gone down.

3. We have seen Halo 3 and yes we will have to wait to see Killzone 2. I am sure the tunes are going to change when it is shown. The ONLY thing that held Killzone 1 back were the hardware issues of the PS2 (yes yes other games looked good but Killzone 1 if on Xbox would have been a different game.) Now with a powerful console utilizing tools that make game design easy and efficient.....I firmly believe Killzone 2 will shock people. The trailer will be very cinematic showing gameplay elements that amaze people...elements that could never be fully realized before now.

and untill we see some thing that shows killzone 2 is exactly what was promised then it will be a flop, Sony lied and said the e3 2005 cgi was real time gameplay, and unless KZ2 looks exactly as promised then it will all ways be a flop, Blame sony for this they're the ones that lied, But its a simple fact in system wars culture, If a game is promised to be something and doesn't deleiver then its a flop...

P.S: halo  has gone down? really?  last time i checked  Killzone wasn't one of the most purchased and played fps games on a console like halo is.

Last time i checked killzone the series didn't have 5+ books created, a movie in the planning, 2 other spin off games one being unknown and created and directed by peter jackson, and one being created and devd by ensemble studios and its going to be an RTS....

So how is halo going down comparred to killzone again?

As for the CGI trailer...log on to XBL or what ever and check out a good quality video of Call of Duty 4. Then imagine a game looking better than that. Because that is what Killzone 2 could do...outperform another FPS like CoD4. I don't think outperforming Halo 3 in graphics is even a valid dispute anymore....with what people have said about Killzone 2 exceeding sme of the elements in the trailer 6 months ago...and destructable enviroments....If I were Halo I'd worry more about Resistance.

This thread is hyping Killzone 2 and yet saying its not hyped at the same time.

The best thing is to just keep quiet about KZ2 and wait to see how it turns out.

But yes Killzone Liberation was really fun and very under rated. Perhaps KZ2 should just be a third person shooter instead.

 

Bread_or_Decide

I'm hoping this is a joke thread.Verge_6

I hope you understand where we cows are coming from now. :D *grazes on pastures peacefully and with pride*

NextGenNow

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]I'm hoping this is a joke thread.NextGenNow

I think Halo 3 will be a much better game than the 2nd one because Bungie admitted part 2 wasn't their best.  Killzone 2 will most likely look good, and I'll buy it, but I don't expect much in the way of gameplay.

                      Halo 4 > KZ2 - makes a better comparison sinse we have yet to see real time game footage of both and the release dates will be closer so lets hype Halo 4 and KZ2 now that seems a bit more realistic lmao ! ;)

                      PS - I know Halo 3 is the last in the series - but I could'nt resist ;)

I think Halo 3 will be a much better game than the 2nd one because Bungie admitted part 2 wasn't their best.  Killzone 2 will most likely look good, and I'll buy it, but I don't expect much in the way of gameplay.

donalbane

I know people are laughing at us cows for hyping this game. But the way I see it is very simple and clear so please take a look at it if you will....thru Cow-Vision...

1. Halo 1 was great...Halo 2 vastly underwhelmed.....single player was distasteful...multiplayer saved it. Now we see Halo 3...despite looking decent we are promised some godlike Crysis uber upgrade because it's a beta lol. Come one people...Beta...are you serious? What you see is what your going to get. Period. Halo Wars? I lol'd myself. I still think Halo will be good but the series is heading down not up...

2. Killzone started mediocre then improved VASTLY! Killzone went from 6.9 to 8.5!! It shows that the lion on the bottom is indeed more hungry then the lion on top. The silence is an obvious poker face on the side of Sony. With all the talented people and money poured into a company that has proven it wants the number one spot....I think they may very well get it....plus they have the ability to harness a greater power from the PS3 with EDGE tools thats we will start seeing this fall (apparently a LOT of problems PS3 games have been having have been solved since their inception)

I hope you understand where we cows are coming from now. :D *grazes on pastures peacefully and with pride*

NextGenNow

[QUOTE="NextGenNow"]

I know people are laughing at us cows for hyping this game. But the way I see it is very simple and clear so please take a look at it if you will....thru Cow-Vision...

1. Halo 1 was great...Halo 2 vastly underwhelmed.....single player was distasteful...multiplayer saved it. Now we see Halo 3...despite looking decent we are promised some godlike Crysis uber upgrade because it's a beta lol. Come one people...Beta...are you serious? What you see is what your going to get. Period. Halo Wars? I lol'd myself. I still think Halo will be good but the series is heading down not up...

2. Killzone started mediocre then improved VASTLY! Killzone went from 6.9 to 8.5!! It shows that the lion on the bottom is indeed more hungry then the lion on top. The silence is an obvious poker face on the side of Sony. With all the talented people and money poured into a company that has proven it wants the number one spot....I think they may very well get it....plus they have the ability to harness a greater power from the PS3 with EDGE tools thats we will start seeing this fall (apparently a LOT of problems PS3 games have been having have been solved since their inception)

I hope you understand where we cows are coming from now. :D *grazes on pastures peacefully and with pride*

xX0LDSCH00LXx

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

[QUOTE="NextGenNow"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]Killzone2=the lion that is smoke and mirrors

Halo 3=the lion that ACTUALLY exists in the form shown.
NextGenNow

heres the deal, We've yet to see gameplay that looks exactly like the CGI shown at e3 2005 the one where sony lied and said THIS IS REAL TIME Gameplay.

so untill then my statement is fact, We've seen halo 3 beta and it OBVIOUSLY looks better then halo 2 any one who says different has fanboy goggles on, The enviorments are more dense, water looks better, snow looks better, textures look better, weapon models, spartan models...ect look better, explosions look better, physics look better..ect

So we have killzone 2 or is it 3 now? lol not sure bout it cause the first was so bad i kind of glazed over the whole game....Any ways killzone 2 has nothing to show for being as good or better looking then the cgi promised that was real time by sony at e3 2005, so till then i still by my statement.


Killzone2=the lion that really doesn't exist in the form promised

Halo 3=The lion that every one is hyped for, and has an offiical thread dedicated to it at the top of the page since the beta footage was released cause of the 5b threads being posted....and actually shows as being what was promised...

1. EDGE Tools - Have been reported as fixing literally all poblems with game design that has plagued current PS3 ports and games in general. R & Clank being one such title to use it.

2. Killzone as a series has gone up. Halo as a sereis has gone down.

3. We have seen Halo 3 and yes we will have to wait to see Killzone 2. I am sure the tunes are going to change when it is shown. The ONLY thing that held Killzone 1 back were the hardware issues of the PS2 (yes yes other games looked good but Killzone 1 if on Xbox would have been a different game.) Now with a powerful console utilizing tools that make game design easy and efficient.....I firmly believe Killzone 2 will shock people. The trailer will be very cinematic showing gameplay elements that amaze people...elements that could never be fully realized before now.

Killzone as a series has gone up? really i thought there was only 1 killzone game released...Unless by up you mean because of the cgi trailer?

I have no idea where all this Killzone hype is coming from.DaysAirlines

Guerilla is a talentless company, I'd be surprised it KZ2 gat higher than a 7.5.....SpaceDragonMan

Comparing killzone liberation and killzone is utter bollocks. They are different genras of game!

SO what your daying is that killzone can only be succesfull if it changes the entire way you play the game :). I'm not saying it won't get better, it will take small steps to being good.

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"]I have no idea where all this Killzone hype is coming from.NextGenNow

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]Killzone2=the lion that is smoke and mirrors

Halo 3=the lion that ACTUALLY exists in the form shown.
NextGenNow

Don't be the guy who goes "Killzone 2 will be AWESOME HAHAHAHAHA!" and then it releases playing like crap and saying "oops"

[QUOTE="NextGenNow"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

[QUOTE="NextGenNow"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]Killzone2=the lion that is smoke and mirrors

Halo 3=the lion that ACTUALLY exists in the form shown.
WilliamRLBaker

heres the deal, We've yet to see gameplay that looks exactly like the CGI shown at e3 2005 the one where sony lied and said THIS IS REAL TIME Gameplay.

so untill then my statement is fact, We've seen halo 3 beta and it OBVIOUSLY looks better then halo 2 any one who says different has fanboy goggles on, The enviorments are more dense, water looks better, snow looks better, textures look better, weapon models, spartan models...ect look better, explosions look better, physics look better..ect

So we have killzone 2 or is it 3 now? lol not sure bout it cause the first was so bad i kind of glazed over the whole game....Any ways killzone 2 has nothing to show for being as good or better looking then the cgi promised that was real time by sony at e3 2005, so till then i still by my statement.


Killzone2=the lion that really doesn't exist in the form promised

Halo 3=The lion that every one is hyped for, and has an offiical thread dedicated to it at the top of the page since the beta footage was released cause of the 5b threads being posted....and actually shows as being what was promised...

1. EDGE Tools - Have been reported as fixing literally all poblems with game design that has plagued current PS3 ports and games in general. R & Clank being one such title to use it.

2. Killzone as a series has gone up. Halo as a sereis has gone down.

3. We have seen Halo 3 and yes we will have to wait to see Killzone 2. I am sure the tunes are going to change when it is shown. The ONLY thing that held Killzone 1 back were the hardware issues of the PS2 (yes yes other games looked good but Killzone 1 if on Xbox would have been a different game.) Now with a powerful console utilizing tools that make game design easy and efficient.....I firmly believe Killzone 2 will shock people. The trailer will be very cinematic showing gameplay elements that amaze people...elements that could never be fully realized before now.

and untill we see some thing that shows killzone 2 is exactly what was promised then it will be a flop, Sony lied and said the e3 2005 cgi was real time gameplay, and unless KZ2 looks exactly as promised then it will all ways be a flop, Blame sony for this they're the ones that lied, But its a simple fact in system wars culture, If a game is promised to be something and doesn't deleiver then its a flop...

P.S: halo  has gone down? really?  last time i checked  Killzone wasn't one of the most purchased and played fps games on a console like halo is.

Last time i checked killzone the series didn't have 5+ books created, a movie in the planning, 2 other spin off games one being unknown and created and directed by peter jackson, and one being created and devd by ensemble studios and its going to be an RTS....

So how is halo going down comparred to killzone again?

and until we actually play halo 3, the campaign is a flop :)

Comparing killzone liberation and killzone is utter bollocks. They are different genras of game!

 

SO what your daying is that killzone can only be succesfull if it changes the entire way you play the game :). I'm not saying it won't get better, it will take small steps to being good.

redstormrisen

Boy you must really like Killzone, probably ever since Motorstorm dissapointed you. How many levels does the Killzone you played has? what was your favorite and please don't google your answers85070537783

Yeah man, did see that trailer (the only Trailer) at E3 2005! That game is going to look that good and be sick! Oh wait.....
black_awpN1

[QUOTE="85070537783"]Boy you must really like Killzone, probably ever since Motorstorm dissapointed you. How many levels does the Killzone you played has? what was your favorite and please don't google your answersNextGenNow

Sweet when it comes to Halo 2 I just loooooove Gravemind you start with a pittyful gun surrounded with a ton of enemies on legendary, outskirts the snipe out in legendary, and in Halo 1 I love the Maw is quite a climatic ending Hey and how often do you play the multipayer? and please tell me if it has LAN.