Killzone 2 to be a FLOP?

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#1 zomgwtfbbqlol1
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i dont get it, seriously, what it wrong with this game? dont say "killzone 1 sucked" bcz anyone with a brain or who understands the dev team went from 20 ppl to 135+, and the funds went insane, will understand that killzone 1 cant be used in this argument.

But all that aside, form what u "fanboys" have seen what is so bad about this amazing looking game that will cause it to get AA, or A?

-best console graphics (outstanding character models/detail/lighting)
-advanced AI (they react to the weather)
-variety of guns
-immersive storyline
-said to have Amazing gameplay, (simialr to COD4)
-Large scale singleplayer
-co-op
-32 player online w/ ****s and badge system
-trophies

so seriously where does this game go wrong? i has basically everything a good game should have, and then jumps the bar.

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#2 lantus
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It all depends on their execution, the first one could've been great, but it only turned out average.
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#3 POJO_MOFO
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its not out for another 6 months. NO ONE knows if it will flop or not yet.
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#4 zomgwtfbbqlol1
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It all depends on their execution, the first one could've been great, but it only turned out average.lantus
please elaborate on that...i want to know whats wrong with the game
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#5 OutlawStarXIII
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Nobody knows whether it'll be a flop, its not a lot of info for it. *waits for 360 fanboys to tell everybody beforehand that the game will flop*
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lol

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#7 zomgwtfbbqlol1
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its not out for another 6 months. NO ONE knows if it will flop or not yet.POJO_MOFO
But from what we know, using LOGIC (i know hard to on SW) what is wrong with the game? heck im not saying upon release it will be AAA, maybe when they get out of beta they didnt fix major glitches or something, but, im just saying for the time being "what is Currently wrong with this game, that so many fanboys bash it like they eat and sleep
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#8 Ninja-Hippo
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[QUOTE="lantus"]It all depends on their execution, the first one could've been great, but it only turned out average.zomgwtfbbqlol1
please elaborate on that...i want to know whats wrong with the game

What was wrong with the first game? It was published by Sony. They said it would be the halo killer, so they obviously had great plans for it. It looked excellent, graphically, for a PS2 game. It was going to have online multiplayer which very few PS2 games had back then, and boasted advanced AI and immersive gameplay.

But it turned out to be a dull, buggy, very poor game.

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#9 zomgwtfbbqlol1
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Nobody knows whether it'll be a flop, its not a lot of info for it. *waits for 360 fanboys to tell everybody beforehand that the game will flop*OutlawStarXIII
not a lot?, what more do u need? did you even look at my list?
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#10 zomgwtfbbqlol1
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[QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"][QUOTE="lantus"]It all depends on their execution, the first one could've been great, but it only turned out average.Ninja-Hippo

please elaborate on that...i want to know whats wrong with the game

What was wrong with the first game? It was published by Sony. They said it would be the halo killer, so they obviously had great plans for it. It looked excellent, graphically, for a PS2 game. It was going to have online multiplayer which very few PS2 games had back then, and boasted advanced AI and immersive gameplay.

But it turned out to be a dull, buggy, very poor game.

not the 1st one, we all know that screwed up, im talking about the sequal
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#11 The-Big-Easy
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I think it'll be great. It's easy to see why it gets bashed, it aint a multiplat.
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I thought the first game was awesome - ok maybe not awesome - i'll reduced that to great.

The guns were great but the inaccuracy was annoying.

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#13 zomgwtfbbqlol1
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I think it'll be great. It's easy to see why it gets bashed, it aint a multiplat.The-Big-Easy
well that we know,but what are ppl bashing it with besides saying the 1st game sucked?, thats what im wondering
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I think it'll be great. It's easy to see why it gets bashed, it aint a multiplat.The-Big-Easy

no, it gets bashed because its the sequal to a monsterishly crappy game. you dont see anyone bashing gears fo war, do you? No, you dont, and you know why? the first one was goty, and the devs dont suck. Now, if that were the case for killzone, i would be able to side with you on this. but it gets bashed because it hasnt proven anything yet.

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#17 Ace132
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IF its like the one from PSP ver. it will be good
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#18 lantus
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[QUOTE="lantus"]It all depends on their execution, the first one could've been great, but it only turned out average.zomgwtfbbqlol1
please elaborate on that...i want to know whats wrong with the game

I didn't way there was anything wrong with this game, I'm just using an analogy. The first Killzone could have been great, but it wasn't. This game can be great, but that has yet to be proven, so all in due time. Hopefully when they public beta comes out we can all find out for ourselves.

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#19 angryfodder
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[QUOTE="angryfodder"]

I thought the first game was awesome - ok maybe not awesome - i'll reduced that to great.

The guns were great but the inaccuracy was annoying.

zomgwtfbbqlol1

IM TALKING ABOUT THE 2ND GAME NOT THE 1ST, IM ASKING FANBOYS WHY KILLZONE 2 WILL FLOP, WITHOUT BRINGING UP THE 1ST GAME...palmface

But which game are you talking about, the first or the second one?

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#20 zomgwtfbbqlol1
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[QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"][QUOTE="lantus"]It all depends on their execution, the first one could've been great, but it only turned out average.lantus

please elaborate on that...i want to know whats wrong with the game

I didn't way there was anything wrong with this game, I'm just using an analogy. The first Killzone could have been great, but it wasn't. This game can be great, but that has yet to be proven, so all in due time. Hopefully when they public beta comes out we can all find out for ourselves.

some ppl have the beta already, neways besides that, im asking form what we have seen about KILLZONE 2 what it wrong with it? (not directing the question as much at u, but at fanboys, bcz they always bash it and say its going to flop)
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I think it will be great, but it dont look the best graphically to me, also, if the gameplay is like COD4, i aint getting it, as for trophies making it better? LOL

But honestly, can't wait for the game, Killzone one sucked, but was very playable, and i enjoyed it.

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#22 zomgwtfbbqlol1
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[QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"][QUOTE="angryfodder"]

I thought the first game was awesome - ok maybe not awesome - i'll reduced that to great.

The guns were great but the inaccuracy was annoying.

angryfodder

IM TALKING ABOUT THE 2ND GAME NOT THE 1ST, IM ASKING FANBOYS WHY KILLZONE 2 WILL FLOP, WITHOUT BRINGING UP THE 1ST GAME...palmface

But which game are you talking about, the first or the second one?

ouch... im clearly talking about the 2nd game....
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#23 angryfodder
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[QUOTE="angryfodder"][QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"][QUOTE="angryfodder"]

I thought the first game was awesome - ok maybe not awesome - i'll reduced that to great.

The guns were great but the inaccuracy was annoying.

zomgwtfbbqlol1

IM TALKING ABOUT THE 2ND GAME NOT THE 1ST, IM ASKING FANBOYS WHY KILLZONE 2 WILL FLOP, WITHOUT BRINGING UP THE 1ST GAME...palmface

But which game are you talking about, the first or the second one?

ouch... im clearly talking about the 2nd game....

Did you not enjoy the first game?

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#24 zomgwtfbbqlol1
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I think it will be great, but it dont look the best graphically to me, also, if the gameplay is like COD4, i aint getting it, as for trophies making it better? LOL

But honestly, can't wait for the game, Killzone one sucked, but was very playable, and i enjoyed it.

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on consoles what looks better? and lemmings brag about achievments all the time so i mentioned trophies
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#26 lantus
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[QUOTE="lantus"]

[QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"][QUOTE="lantus"]It all depends on their execution, the first one could've been great, but it only turned out average.zomgwtfbbqlol1

please elaborate on that...i want to know whats wrong with the game

I didn't way there was anything wrong with this game, I'm just using an analogy. The first Killzone could have been great, but it wasn't. This game can be great, but that has yet to be proven, so all in due time. Hopefully when they public beta comes out we can all find out for ourselves.

some ppl have the beta already, neways besides that, im asking form what we have seen about KILLZONE 2 what it wrong with it? (not directing the question as much at u, but at fanboys, bcz they always bash it and say its going to flop)

Nothing's wrong with it for me, I'm just trying to give you a glimpse of what's going through some people's minds. Some had a lot of hope for the original, it's hard to regain all of that for a sequel. But yeah, nothing wrong with it to me.

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#27 zomgwtfbbqlol1
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[QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"][QUOTE="lantus"]

[QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"][QUOTE="lantus"]It all depends on their execution, the first one could've been great, but it only turned out average.lantus

please elaborate on that...i want to know whats wrong with the game

I didn't way there was anything wrong with this game, I'm just using an analogy. The first Killzone could have been great, but it wasn't. This game can be great, but that has yet to be proven, so all in due time. Hopefully when they public beta comes out we can all find out for ourselves.

some ppl have the beta already, neways besides that, im asking form what we have seen about KILLZONE 2 what it wrong with it? (not directing the question as much at u, but at fanboys, bcz they always bash it and say its going to flop)

Nothing's wrong with it for me, I'm just trying to give you a glimpse of what's going through some people's minds. Some had a lot of hope for the original, it's hard to regain all of that for a sequel. But yeah, nothing wrong with it to me.

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lol...
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#29 primateface
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lol @ using doctored screenshot.

the self shadowing the shadows a bunch of pixels lol.

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[QUOTE="mtradr43"]

[QUOTE="The-Big-Easy"]I think it'll be great. It's easy to see why it gets bashed, it aint a multiplat.zomgwtfbbqlol1

no, it gets bashed because its the sequal to a monsterishly crappy game. you dont see anyone bashing gears fo war, do you? No, you dont, and you know why? the first one was goty, and the devs dont suck. Now, if that were the case for killzone, i would be able to side with you on this. but it gets bashed because it hasnt proven anything yet.

SO BESIDES BEING A sequal TO A BAD GAME WHAT IS ACTUALLY WRONG WITH KILLZONE 2????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? NOT THE 1ST GAME

the thing is, no one knows what could be wrong with it. Is there going to be things wrong with it? of course there is. However, to what extent no one knows. It could be slightly buggy like most games and end up with a 9 here, or it could end up like haze. I am just saying that when the first game of a series blows, you have to assume the next one will unless proven otherwise. in this case, it would be the game actually coming out and doing good.

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#31 zomgwtfbbqlol1
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[QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"][QUOTE="mtradr43"]

[QUOTE="The-Big-Easy"]I think it'll be great. It's easy to see why it gets bashed, it aint a multiplat.mtradr43

no, it gets bashed because its the sequal to a monsterishly crappy game. you dont see anyone bashing gears fo war, do you? No, you dont, and you know why? the first one was goty, and the devs dont suck. Now, if that were the case for killzone, i would be able to side with you on this. but it gets bashed because it hasnt proven anything yet.

SO BESIDES BEING A sequal TO A BAD GAME WHAT IS ACTUALLY WRONG WITH KILLZONE 2????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? NOT THE 1ST GAME

the thing is, no one knows what could be wrong with it. Is there going to be things wrong with it? of course there is. However, to what extent no one knows. It could be slightly buggy like most games and end up with a 9 here, or it could end up like haze. I am just saying that when the first game of a series blows, you have to assume the next one will unless proven otherwise. in this case, it would be the game actually coming out and doing good.

everyone knew haze was crap form the start, and it was rarely praised,unlike killzone 2, but i dont care about what may or may not happen, i want to know what is currently wrong with this game? what is the gam edoign right now that makes it appear to be a flop?

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#32 zomgwtfbbqlol1
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lol @ using doctored screenshot.

the self shadowing the shadows a bunch of pixels lol.

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w/e... lol it just looked kewl so i put it in, u want me to post gameplay?

actually why dont u look at the gameplay in motion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0OXwfxsO_Q

Thats beta footage

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#33 mtradr43
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now dont start that nonsense. the majority of cows were praising haze, laughing at everyone else because it was exclusive, many were hyping AA-AAA. As far as killzone 2, i have not played it, but from what ive seen it just looks like a watered down version of call of duty 4, with less textures.

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Killzone 1 was great, at peak hours there are still 400ish people playing online ... thats really good return rate. It looked very very good for a PS2 game. The 2 things that stunk for me were the framerates ... graphics were just too demanding of the PS2 and the fact taht Sony DiD "label it the halo killer" and it wasnt ... but then again labeling anything a "_____ killer" is just stupid since the game shouldnt be there just to knock another game down.
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You are asking people why they think the game will flop TC, but there is no reason behind it. The only reason people bash the game is becuase its exclsuive, thats it.
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#36 zomgwtfbbqlol1
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now dont start that nonsense. the majority of cows were praising haze, laughing at everyone else because it was exclusive, many were hyping AA-AAA. As far as killzone 2, i have not played it, but from what ive seen it just looks like a watered down version of call of duty 4, with less textures.

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lol @ haze, hmm ppl praised it because of the Developers good reputation, AND LOOK WHERE THAT GOT THEM, why is it a watered down version of COD4?, also note its in beta, and the textures are looking a lot better than the alpha
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#37 zomgwtfbbqlol1
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Killzone 1 was great, at peak hours there are still 400ish people playing online ... thats really good return rate. It looked very very good for a PS2 game. The 2 things that stunk for me were the framerates ... graphics were just too demanding of the PS2 and the fact taht Sony DiD "label it the halo killer" and it wasnt ... but then again labeling anything a "_____ killer" is just stupid since the game shouldnt be there just to knock another game down.ColdfireTrilogy
no1 cares....i wanted to know whats wrong with killzone 2
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[QUOTE="ColdfireTrilogy"]Killzone 1 was great, at peak hours there are still 400ish people playing online ... thats really good return rate. It looked very very good for a PS2 game. The 2 things that stunk for me were the framerates ... graphics were just too demanding of the PS2 and the fact taht Sony DiD "label it the halo killer" and it wasnt ... but then again labeling anything a "_____ killer" is just stupid since the game shouldnt be there just to knock another game down.zomgwtfbbqlol1
no1 cares....i wanted to know whats wrong with killzone 2

no1 knows...its not out yet

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http://i38.tinypic.com/25kohw5.gif

lol

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Haha, what the ****?

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#40 Ninja-Hippo
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not the 1st one, we all know that screwed up, im talking about the sequalzomgwtfbbqlol1

Yes i know. You obviously didnt get my point. The things you are saying like "what is wrong with this game?" all applied to the first one too.

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lol @ using doctored screenshot.

the self shadowing the shadows a bunch of pixels lol.

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It doesn't look doctored at all. You can see aliasing and artifacts pretty clearly.
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#42 ukillwegrill
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[QUOTE="ukillwegrill"]

I think it will be great, but it dont look the best graphically to me, also, if the gameplay is like COD4, i aint getting it, as for trophies making it better? LOL

But honestly, can't wait for the game, Killzone one sucked, but was very playable, and i enjoyed it.

zomgwtfbbqlol1

on consoles what looks better? and lemmings brag about achievments all the time so i mentioned trophies

And cows say they suck and dont matter, all the time.

Also, i dont see what looks so special about Killzone 2, compared to various other games. Yes that includes Gears of war.

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#43 InsaneBasura
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Well the first one was rather undewhelming.
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#44 too_much_eslim
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well in february we will find out. As of right now I think the multiplayer looks great, but the single player looks like crap.
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#45 ukillwegrill
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well in february we will find out. As of right now I think the multiplayer looks great, but the single player looks like crap.too_much_eslim

Wow, that long? ughhh

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#46 too_much_eslim
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]well in february we will find out. As of right now I think the multiplayer looks great, but the single player looks like crap.ukillwegrill

Wow, that long? ughhh

who knows knowing Sony they will probably delay it again.
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#47 Nike_Air
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I won't see a AA Gamespot score as a flop for this game , I see it more like an expected AA level game that has an outside chance at some AAA scores. If they can make a cool cinematic shooter and pull off fun and balanced multiplayer and do the best they can to polish the insane looking and ambitious game ..... then that is all I will really care about at the end of the day.

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#48 Il_Exile_lI
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I really, really hope this game turns out to be good, but I am staying cautiously optimistic. I will not get expect it to be good because the devs have never proven they can make a good game. Maybe if the sequel to their other monstrocity Shellshock turns out to be good (releases in Nov.) I will be a little more optimistic about this game.
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#49 angelkimne
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What was wrong with the first game? It was published by Sony

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Lol, it's Ghost again ! :P
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#50 nervmeister
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I think the overall reception towards it at a convention should shed more light on how it'll turn out.