Killzone 2 was a mistake.

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#1 civic_misfit
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The only reason the game exists is to capitalize on the popularity of online shooters this gen. Sony had no choice but to throw money at an untalented developer such as Guerilla Games. The game does nothing new for the genre, and it shows in how soulless the game is. It is unfathomable how cows could be so loyal to Sony that they would hype a sequel to a 6.9 game. No other fanboy would do that. You will not see any lemming hyping Too Human 2.

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#2 BPoole96
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Yeah the positive reviews from just about every website definitely shows that GG is full of talentless devs...

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? KZ2 was awesome... Loved the online... Single player was frustratingly difficult.
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I don't remember being able to take cover in other FPS, but OK.
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This might be a fanboy rant but I agree. KZ2 was a joke of an online shooter. I would have been much happier with something more Sony styled. Like a good Jrpg, or action/adventure game.
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#6 civic_misfit
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Yeah the positive reviews from just about every website definitely shows that GG is full of talentless devs...

BPoole96
Well, Splinter Cell Conviction got AAA IGN. Does that mean it's a good game? Not really.
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#7 nmaharg
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I don't remember being able to take cover in other FPS, but OK. IppoTenma
Then you haven't played many PC fpsers.
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#8 Ninja-Hippo
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Yeah the positive reviews from just about every website definitely shows that GG is full of talentless devs...

BPoole96
I think Guerilla ARE talentless in that they released a slew of garbage before Sony massively invested in the studio (heck, didn't the size of their team more than double?) with a huge budget. I think any other developer like Valve, Naughty Dog, BioWare or Insomniac could have made a true next-gen masterpiece with that kind of financial support from a big-name publisher. As the TC said, Killzone 2 wasn't a bad game but it was very drab and soulless.
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#9 Dead-Memories
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kz 2 multiplayer was more polished and solid than many other this gen.

it was pristine quality, where is the hate coming from?

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The only reason the game exists is to capitalize on the popularity of online shooters this gen. Sony had no choice but to throw money at an untalented developer such as Guerilla Games. The game does nothing new for the genre, and it shows in how soulless the game is. It is unfathomable how cows could be so loyal to Sony that they would hype a sequel to a 6.9 game. No other fanboy would do that. You will not see any lemming hyping Too Human 2.

civic_misfit
? KZ2 was awesome... Loved the online... Single player was frustratingly difficult.MethodManFTW
On elite radec = hair pulling
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I don't remember being able to take cover in other FPS, but OK. IppoTenma
Then you haven't played many FPS games....
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#12 nmaharg
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kz 2 multiplayer was more polished and solid than many other this gen.

it was pristine quality, where is the hate coming from?

Dead-Memories

I've heard alot of BS but this is so false. KZ2 is a sloppy mess online.

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#13 civic_misfit
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I don't remember being able to take cover in other FPS, but OK. IppoTenma
You can't take cover in multiplayer. They pretty much just added that feature to distract you from how unoriginal the game is. Then took it out because it really wouldn't work.
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#15 Nike_Air
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Best shooter I played this generation by far, so I'm glad they invested in this company and project.

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[QUOTE="IppoTenma"]I don't remember being able to take cover in other FPS, but OK. nmaharg
Then you haven't played many PC fpsers.

True...
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A very enjoyable mistake...

I couldn't care less about what it did, or didn't do for the genre. I had a great time playing it.

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#18 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"]

kz 2 multiplayer was more polished and solid than many other this gen.

it was pristine quality, where is the hate coming from?

nmaharg

I've heard alot of BS but this is so false. KZ2 is a sloppy mess online.

Yes its BS to have an opinion:roll:. No matter how much you try to shove your "facts" down someones mouth it wont make them change thier thoughts on things.

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#20 djsifer01
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Yeah the positive reviews from just about every website definitely shows that GG is full of talentless devs...

civic_misfit
Well, Splinter Cell Conviction got AAA IGN. Does that mean it's a good game? Not really.

SCC is a awesome game, AAA material all the way. KZ2 is my favorite FPS this gen. GG not talented? LMAO, critics say otherwise and so do the stunning graphics on my screen.
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#21 nmaharg
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="IppoTenma"]I don't remember being able to take cover in other FPS, but OK. IppoTenma
Then you haven't played many PC fpsers.

True...

Even COD4 has a cover system on PC. It's pretty normal in PC Fps.
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#23 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Yeah the positive reviews from just about every website definitely shows that GG is full of talentless devs...

Ninja-Hippo

I think Guerilla ARE talentless in that they released a slew of garbage before Sony massively invested in the studio (heck, didn't the size of their team more than double?) with a huge budget. I think any other developer like Valve, Naughty Dog, BioWare or Insomniac could have made a true next-gen masterpiece with that kind of financial support from a big-name publisher. As the TC said, Killzone 2 wasn't a bad game but it was very drab and soulless.

I didint get that feeling at all from it. I mean its all about perferenc.

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#24 civic_misfit
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Hey, you're that uneducated lemming from the other thread.

15strong

Yup :D I only do 2 threads at a time.

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#25 vincent380
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I loved KZ2...i feel like im a minority LoL
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#26 forza420
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killzone 2 multiplayer takes more skill than Halo and MW2 combined
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#27 StealthMonkey4
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I guess every single game has to do something completely new to be considered good. :roll:

Thinking this way, probably not even one game this gen is good. People need to stop worrying about "Teh Inn0vat1ons!" and just enjoy the game.

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#28 nmaharg
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"]

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"]

kz 2 multiplayer was more polished and solid than many other this gen.

it was pristine quality, where is the hate coming from?

finalfantasy94

I've heard alot of BS but this is so false. KZ2 is a sloppy mess online.

Yes its BS to have an opinion:roll:. No matter how much you try to shove your "facts" down someones mouth it wont make them change thier thoughts on things.

Well to be fair yes. If someone comes up to me and says Megan fox is ugly, I would have the same response. Unless you only play Halo and COD I can't see how you think KZ2 is anything other than sloppy.
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Yeah the positive reviews from just about every website definitely shows that GG is full of talentless devs...

Ninja-Hippo
I think Guerilla ARE talentless in that they released a slew of garbage before Sony massively invested in the studio (heck, didn't the size of their team more than double?) with a huge budget. I think any other developer like Valve, Naughty Dog, BioWare or Insomniac could have made a true next-gen masterpiece with that kind of financial support from a big-name publisher. As the TC said, Killzone 2 wasn't a bad game but it was very drab and soulless.

you'd be really surprised that sometimes you can do a lot better with a bit more money. otherwise you begin compromising the idea for the game. I must say though. i agree of all the shooters on the PS3. i find Killzone 2 the most drab and soulless. I like the idea behind Killzone 2's story and setting, but throughout the game it's just one jerk running into another jerk. I do like Resistance's setting and story. thing is however, is Nathan Hale's personality is like paper thin.... so.... i guess we just project on to it. and defend the world from an alien invasion... viva la resistance. :) even if the competitive multiplayer feels pretty standard. (i love the co-op still play that..)
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killzone 2 multiplayer takes more skill than Halo and MW2 combinedforza420
This. I am terrible at KZ2 MP where i am mediocre at the latter.

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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="nmaharg"] I've heard alot of BS but this is so false. KZ2 is a sloppy mess online.

nmaharg

Yes its BS to have an opinion:roll:. No matter how much you try to shove your "facts" down someones mouth it wont make them change thier thoughts on things.

Well to be fair yes. If someone comes up to me and says Megan fox is ugly, I would have the same response. Unless you only play Halo and COD I can't see how you think KZ2 is anything other than sloppy.

Megan Fox is ugly.

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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Yeah the positive reviews from just about every website definitely shows that GG is full of talentless devs...

civic_misfit
Well, Splinter Cell Conviction got AAA IGN. Does that mean it's a good game? Not really.

No....it means it's a GREAT game. :)
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#33 nmaharg
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killzone 2 multiplayer takes more skill than Halo and MW2 combinedforza420
Thats not really saying much now is it. You're talking about two very easy games, both with tons of auto aim and very little recoil.
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#34 nmaharg
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

Yes its BS to have an opinion:roll:. No matter how much you try to shove your "facts" down someones mouth it wont make them change thier thoughts on things.

brennan7777

Well to be fair yes. If someone comes up to me and says Megan fox is ugly, I would have the same response. Unless you only play Halo and COD I can't see how you think KZ2 is anything other than sloppy.

Megan Fox is ugly.

BS
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#35 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Yeah the positive reviews from just about every website definitely shows that GG is full of talentless devs...

civic_misfit
Well, Splinter Cell Conviction got AAA IGN. Does that mean it's a good game? Not really.

Why? Because you say so?
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#36 brennan7777
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[QUOTE="brennan7777"]

[QUOTE="nmaharg"] Well to be fair yes. If someone comes up to me and says Megan fox is ugly, I would have the same response. Unless you only play Halo and COD I can't see how you think KZ2 is anything other than sloppy. nmaharg

Megan Fox is ugly.

BS

but she is...see how opinions go?

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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Yeah the positive reviews from just about every website definitely shows that GG is full of talentless devs...

Ninja-Hippo

I think Guerilla ARE talentless in that they released a slew of garbage before Sony massively invested in the studio (heck, didn't the size of their team more than double?) with a huge budget. I think any other developer like Valve, Naughty Dog, BioWare or Insomniac could have made a true next-gen masterpiece with that kind of financial support from a big-name publisher. As the TC said, Killzone 2 wasn't a bad game but it was very drab and soulless.

I wouldnt even think of calling them talentless. Did you forget Too human which had much more time and money invested and still is a poor game. Guerilla was talentless. Are they now? Not anymore, because making an AAA game isnt talentless no matter the budget or number of time(look at too human).

And the game being drab and souless are excuses made by the same people who were disatisfied with the controls and find the need to bash something else. The game is extremely atmospheric with many WW2 references and well created villains. Visari was full of life along with Radec. I do admit that the protagonist and plot was bland but thats it.

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#38 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="nmaharg"] I've heard alot of BS but this is so false. KZ2 is a sloppy mess online.

nmaharg

Yes its BS to have an opinion:roll:. No matter how much you try to shove your "facts" down someones mouth it wont make them change thier thoughts on things.

Well to be fair yes. If someone comes up to me and says Megan fox is ugly, I would have the same response. Unless you only play Halo and COD I can't see how you think KZ2 is anything other than sloppy.

I own halo 3 and own mw and mw 2 and still enjoy KZ2 more then both the games. Even though halo gameplay is very different ala arcady.

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#39 nmaharg
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="brennan7777"] Megan Fox is ugly.

brennan7777

BS

but she is...see how opinions go?

Opinions can still be full of BS.
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I totally agree with this 360%. No one plays Killzone 2 anymore like how people continues to play Halo and Call of Duty games in huge unique player numbers. It did not even live up to how it looked in their first CGI trailer one bit. Another mistake Sony have fallen into are focusing too much on graphics with this game and their other games. Killzone 2 is not anything special at all and in my reality of things and educated opinion the whole game, the whole franchise is forgettable. I really hope Sony doesn't make another Killzone game after this one. Sony continues to litter their library with exclusive shooters and I truly believe they all failed to reach the amount of success compared to games like Halo and Call of Duty. They need to stop trying to make shooter games in all seriousness.
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Yeah the positive reviews from just about every website definitely shows that GG is full of talentless devs...

civic_misfit

Well, Splinter Cell Conviction got AAA IGN. Does that mean it's a good game? Not really.

That's one site. Killzone 2 got AAA reviews on a lot of sites and holds a 90+ on Metacritic. I've played the game a lot more than you have and it definitely couldn't be made my talentless devs

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I totally agree with this 360%. No one plays Killzone 2 anymore like how people continues to play Halo and Call of Duty games in huge unique player numbers. It did not even live up to how it looked in their first CGI trailer one bit. Another mistake Sony have fallen into are focusing too much on graphics with this game and their other games. Killzone 2 is not anything special at all and in my reality of things and educated opinion the whole game, the whole franchise is forgettable. I really hope Sony doesn't make another Killzone game after this one. Sony continues to litter their library with exclusive shooters and I truly believe they all failed to reach the amount of success compared to games like Halo and Call of Duty. They need to stop trying to make shooter games in all seriousness.reanimatedchamp
Heh.
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I totally agree with this 360%. No one plays Killzone 2 anymore like how people continues to play Halo and Call of Duty games in huge unique player numbers. It did not even live up to how it looked in their first CGI trailer one bit. Another mistake Sony have fallen into are focusing too much on graphics with this game and their other games. Killzone 2 is not anything special at all and in my reality of things and educated opinion the whole game, the whole franchise is forgettable. I really hope Sony doesn't make another Killzone game after this one. Sony continues to litter their library with exclusive shooters and I truly believe they all failed to reach the amount of success compared to games like Halo and Call of Duty. They need to stop trying to make shooter games in all seriousness.reanimatedchamp

The basis of pretty much your entire post is that sales=quality, when it does not.

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Yeah the positive reviews from just about every website definitely shows that GG is full of talentless devs...

BPoole96
Dude, let the kid hate...sometimes it's good to sip on the haterate :P
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#45 nmaharg
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

Yes its BS to have an opinion:roll:. No matter how much you try to shove your "facts" down someones mouth it wont make them change thier thoughts on things.

finalfantasy94

Well to be fair yes. If someone comes up to me and says Megan fox is ugly, I would have the same response. Unless you only play Halo and COD I can't see how you think KZ2 is anything other than sloppy.

I own halo 3 and own mw and mw 2 and still enjoy KZ2 more then both the games. Even though halo gameplay is very different ala arcady.

As do i, but KZ2 is still sloppy online, no changing that. I'm not saying KZ2 isn't enjoyable, thats for you to decide, I'm saying that rounds in that game for the most part turn into a frag fest. Sloppy run around like a chicken with your head cut off gameplay, might be fun for some, but I just think it's sloppy and boring.
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#46 Crazyguy105
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[QUOTE="brennan7777"]

[QUOTE="nmaharg"] BSnmaharg

but she is...see how opinions go?

Opinions can still be full of BS.

But Megan Fox is still really ugly. :P

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#47 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="nmaharg"] Well to be fair yes. If someone comes up to me and says Megan fox is ugly, I would have the same response. Unless you only play Halo and COD I can't see how you think KZ2 is anything other than sloppy. nmaharg

I own halo 3 and own mw and mw 2 and still enjoy KZ2 more then both the games. Even though halo gameplay is very different ala arcady.

As do i, but KZ2 is still sloppy online, no changing that. I'm not saying KZ2 isn't enjoyable, thats for you to decide, I'm saying that rounds in that game for the most part turn into a frag fest. Sloppy run around like a chicken with your head cut off gameplay, might be fun for some, but I just think it's sloppy and boring.

Keywords YOU THINK. I mean yea its great to be human and have an opinion,but it doesint make you any more right then me. Again the facts you clam are just your opinion.

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[QUOTE="reanimatedchamp"]I totally agree with this 360%. No one plays Killzone 2 anymore like how people continues to play Halo and Call of Duty games in huge unique player numbers. It did not even live up to how it looked in their first CGI trailer one bit. Another mistake Sony have fallen into are focusing too much on graphics with this game and their other games. Killzone 2 is not anything special at all and in my reality of things and educated opinion the whole game, the whole franchise is forgettable. I really hope Sony doesn't make another Killzone game after this one. Sony continues to litter their library with exclusive shooters and I truly believe they all failed to reach the amount of success compared to games like Halo and Call of Duty. They need to stop trying to make shooter games in all seriousness.StealthMonkey4

The basis of pretty much your entire post is that sales=quality, when it does not.

If you did some quick research you will find out that base on Game Spot reviews the Halo franchise and the two previous Modern Warfare games are all triple A quality. They are not just triple A quality but they have sold boat loads. Not only these games are quality and sold in quantity, these games are still very active. Sadly I can not say this about Killzone 2 or any other PS3 shooter in my experience in gaming.
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="nmaharg"] Well to be fair yes. If someone comes up to me and says Megan fox is ugly, I would have the same response. Unless you only play Halo and COD I can't see how you think KZ2 is anything other than sloppy. nmaharg

I own halo 3 and own mw and mw 2 and still enjoy KZ2 more then both the games. Even though halo gameplay is very different ala arcady.

As do i, but KZ2 is still sloppy online, no changing that. I'm not saying KZ2 isn't enjoyable, thats for you to decide, I'm saying that rounds in that game for the most part turn into a frag fest. Sloppy run around like a chicken with your head cut off gameplay, might be fun for some, but I just think it's sloppy and boring.

Did you even play online? How is the fame sloppy? Its because how people play? Look at halo and codmw2... now thats sloppy

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#50 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="nmaharg"] Well to be fair yes. If someone comes up to me and says Megan fox is ugly, I would have the same response. Unless you only play Halo and COD I can't see how you think KZ2 is anything other than sloppy. nmaharg

I own halo 3 and own mw and mw 2 and still enjoy KZ2 more then both the games. Even though halo gameplay is very different ala arcady.

As do i, but KZ2 is still sloppy online, no changing that. I'm not saying KZ2 isn't enjoyable, thats for you to decide, I'm saying that rounds in that game for the most part turn into a frag fest. Sloppy run around like a chicken with your head cut off gameplay, might be fun for some, but I just think it's sloppy and boring.

What? I think you are mistaking KZ2 with MW2. The only way I can see your comments being valid is if you spent your entire online time playing Radec with Grenade Lauchers and RPGs enabled, in which case you deserve to have a bad time because Radec RPGs and GLs is for noobs.