Killzone 2.......Almost used UNREAL ENGINE (LINK)

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#1 hip-fire
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http://www.1up.com/features/secret-history-killzone (Spoiler Alert)....Don't read 6th post by user Walkingdream All about Killzone, facts and never before heard development info/ back stories directly from the Guerrilla Games veterans. Related facts; Epic & Bungie games, E3 2005 Killzone 2 trailer, sequels, next IP, more........ ______________________________________________________________________________ -Guerrilla Games used to work with Epic Games -They both worked on the Unreal Engine back in the 90s -They both split up eventually but are still good friends -GG are close friends with Bungie; usually go out for Beer with each other -Herman Hulst thinks the "Halo vs Killzone"......."Halo Killer" hypes are crazy because both FPS's are very different and both camps are great friends with one another. -Bungie nor GG buy into the rivalry crap from the Press -Killzone 2 was supposed to be a sequel on the PS2, but after the E3 2005 trailer of Killzone 2, the world went crazy and demanded a release for the PS3 (then new), So GG changed all plans of the PS2 sequel and focused the whole team on the PS3. . . -Killzone 2 Trailer E3 2005 was actually an image/goal of Killzone 3, not KZ2. Killzone 2 was more like a Beta, just like how Geow2 was a Beta for Geow3 -KZ2 was first designed using the Unreal Engine, only to find it wasnt enough and lacked many of the post processing that GG needed to fulfill their KZ2 image, so they designed their own engine from the grounds up -The E3 2005 Trailer was not supposed to be released to the public, it was actually just a CGI representation of what GG wanted to accomplish with KZ3......not KZ2 which was being developed for the PS2 at the time. But the Hype it received, forced GG to rethink KZ2 and re-made it for the PS3 -Naughty Dog helped GG with the snow footprints in KZ3, and other parties also shared minor tricks with GG... -Killzone 1 was originally called "Marines" -Killzone started as a demo and Sony liked the technology back then so they bought GG -Sony wanted Killzone to be a short 3 hour game, but GG over delivered. -Helghast stands for "Hell" + "Ghast", which means guy. So Guys from Hell -Killzone was developed with the Villains as the main focus of the game, not the heroes -Killzone Liberation was supposed to be a FPS, but held back by the PSP's limitation, especially Analog stick wise and memory. But the game still worked well because it was more tactical from top view -New Killzone on NGP is being developed by Sony Cambridge (25 members), which made LBP for PSP, and do get help from GG. They want to make it the first successful hand held FPS -Guerila's next game will be a New IP -GG is definitely Not done with Killzone because it's their baby, they created it and will never throw it over the fence for someone else
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#2 Bangerman15
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killzone fps on the ngp?? wow :)
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#3 Lto_thaG
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There will be a KZ4.

KZ3 is open ended.

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#4 hip-fire
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There will be a KZ4.

KZ3 is open ended.

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KZ4 on PS4 confirmed
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#5 waltefmoney
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Killzone 2 was more like a Beta, just like how Geow2 was a Beta for Geow3hip-fire

He actually said that?

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#7 Lto_thaG
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Spoiler dude :P

At the end of the credits there's still a short cutscene.

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cool little facts

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#9 hip-fire
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[QUOTE="hip-fire"]Killzone 2 was more like a Beta, just like how Geow2 was a Beta for Geow3waltefmoney

He actually said that?

not exactly, but he said Killzone 2 was sort of rushed design wise so most of the vehicles, map varieties werent included until KZ3
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#10 hip-fire
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Spoiler dude :P

At the end of the credits there's still a short cutscene.

Lto_thaG
oh i didnt think anyone will watch the videos if they didnt want to spoil themselves. Besides 1UP is an Ad fest
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#11 Lto_thaG
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

Spoiler dude :P

At the end of the credits there's still a short cutscene.

hip-fire

oh i didnt think anyone will watch the videos if they didnt want to spoil themselves. Besides 1UP is an Ad fest

Nah,I meant the dude above me :P

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#12 SaudiFury
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@ Walkingdream shouldn't you be writing that in spoilers?
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Woah spoiler alert! But really nice facts you've got there, I quite enjoyed them as I had never heard of them before... although I will admit the "bungie is friends with GG" seems a bit... something like a 14 year old would make up, like "yeah my dad works at playstation"
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#14 hip-fire
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[QUOTE="Bioshockraptor"]Woah spoiler alert! But really nice facts you've got there, I quite enjoyed them as I had never heard of them before... although I will admit the "bungie is friends with GG" seems a bit... something like a 14 year old would make up, like "yeah my dad works at playstation"

I didnt make that up, if you read the interview you shall see
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#15 Not-A-Stalker
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Incredibly interesting read. I suggest everyone take their time and read the 8 page story. I now see why Killzone 2 took so long to release. They hadn't even started on it when that trailer came out :lol:
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#16 Luxen90
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Killzone was developed with the Villains as the main focus of the game, not the heroes hip-fire


Should of went with that approach.... or at least try to switch it up in the games.

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#17 o0squishy0o
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I dont believe for a second that killzone 2 or gears of war 2 were "beta's" for gears 3 and killzone 3. Thats just horrible marketing hype lol

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#18 tomarlyn
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Unreal Engine is great but I'm glad they built their own, KZ2 and 3 are hands down the console graphics kings.
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#19 ForceFreeze
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Unreal Engine is great but I'm glad they built their own, KZ2 and 3 are hands down the console graphics kings.tomarlyn

Agreed, though the subdued use of motion blur in KZ3 is disappointing.

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Good thing they went for their own then ;)

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Unreal Engine is great but I'm glad they built their own, KZ2 and 3 are hands down the console graphics kings.tomarlyn

Yeah let's try to stay away from that term, really don't want it to catch on again.

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Use spoiler tags people, God damn it.

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[QUOTE="hip-fire"] -Killzone was developed with the Villains as the main focus of the game, not the heroes

I think they shouldn't have changed this. I would LOVE to play the whole series as Helghast instead of the ISA. Maybe a seperate campaign for both.
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]Unreal Engine is great but I'm glad they built their own, KZ2 and 3 are hands down the console graphics kings.Gxgear

Yeah let's try to stay away from that term, really don't want it to catch on again.

What?
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thank god it didn't.

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#26 hip-fire
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Unreal Engine is great but I'm glad they built their own, KZ2 and 3 are hands down the console graphics kings.tomarlyn
agreed, if they wouldve used the unreal engine, KZ2 probably wouldve looked mediocre like the rest of the Unreal multiplats
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[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]Unreal Engine is great but I'm glad they built their own, KZ2 and 3 are hands down the console graphics kings.tomarlyn

Yeah let's try to stay away from that term, really don't want it to catch on again.

What?

Teh console graphics king.

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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="Gxgear"]

Yeah let's try to stay away from that term, really don't want it to catch on again.

Gxgear

What?

Teh console graphics king.

C'mon..Everyone should know that KZ3 looks better than Crysis. It is the graphics king.

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[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"] What?Lto_thaG

Teh console graphics king.

C'mon..Everyone should know that KZ3 looks better than Crysis. It is the graphics king.

Lto_thaG has been exposed as a cow. League of Lemmings attack!

On topic that's some interesting stuff.

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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]Unreal Engine is great but I'm glad they built their own, KZ2 and 3 are hands down the console graphics kings.hip-fire
agreed, if they wouldve used the unreal engine, KZ2 probably wouldve looked mediocre like the rest of the Unreal multiplats

Yeah because Bioshock, Borderlands and Bulletstorm look so mediocre....
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

Teh console graphics king.

Giant_Panda

C'mon..Everyone should know that KZ3 looks better than Crysis. It is the graphics king.

Lto_thaG has been exposed as a cow. League of Lemmings attack!

On topic that's some interesting stuff.

I would expect hermits to rip me a new one :P
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[QUOTE="Giant_Panda"]

[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"] C'mon..Everyone should know that KZ3 looks better than Crysis. It is the graphics king.

Lto_thaG

Lto_thaG has been exposed as a cow. League of Lemmings attack!

On topic that's some interesting stuff.

I would expect hermits to rip me a new one :P

It's harder to use alliteration with hermits though.:( Heap of Hermits? That doesn't sound nearly as professional as a "league".

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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"][QUOTE="Giant_Panda"]

Lto_thaG has been exposed as a cow. League of Lemmings attack!

On topic that's some interesting stuff.

Giant_Panda

I would expect hermits to rip me a new one :P

It's harder to use alliteration with hermits though.:( Heap of Hermits? That doesn't sound nearly as professional as a "league".

Horde of Hermits could work.Sounds agressive,you know,fanboyish.
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New IP is a good IP.:)

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#35 Giant_Panda
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[QUOTE="Giant_Panda"]

[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"] I would expect hermits to rip me a new one :PLto_thaG

It's harder to use alliteration with hermits though.:( Heap of Hermits? That doesn't sound nearly as professional as a "league".

Horde of Hermits could work.Sounds agressive,you know,fanboyish.

That's a good one. The Horde of Hermits will now be unleashed upon you to avenge Crysis.

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This definately made me lose respect for GG... I mean they are relying on Naughty Dog and other devs to do their work for them. I mean of course their engine would be amazing too as Sony poured money down their throat.
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#37 hip-fire
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[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]This definately made me lose respect for GG... I mean they are relying on Naughty Dog and other devs to do their work for them. I mean of course their engine would be amazing too as Sony poured money down their throat.

Why did you lose respect for GG? everyone knows Naughty Dog are the tech king on consoles so who wouldn't like free advice from them? I bet many devs would pay $$ just for tech advice from ND........
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#38 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="Gxgear"]

Yeah let's try to stay away from that term, really don't want it to catch on again.

Gxgear

What?

Teh console graphics king.

Lets not start that elitist BS again.
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[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]This definately made me lose respect for GG... I mean they are relying on Naughty Dog and other devs to do their work for them. I mean of course their engine would be amazing too as Sony poured money down their throat.

Sony devs share info and tips with each other bro. Naughty Dog, Guerrila, Santa Monica, Media Molecule, etc. If the end result is a better game, how's that a bad thing?