Killzone 2's biggest weakness

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#1 freediro
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i know you probably read this title coming in think it was going to be some giant block of words blasting Killzone 2 compared to some other game but its not, so relax here me out and lets discuss.

Soundtracks can make or break great games vs ok games

Killzone 2 soundtrack was good not great i felt they took The Dark Knight, Resistance 2, and then their own ideas meshed them all together and made the soundtrack. The sounds in the game i loved but the soundtrack just felt like it was obviously not the most important aspect of the game for Guerrilla. its too bad because i think an amazing soundtrack would have made this all time amazing game jsut a little better?

agree or disagree?

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#3 aflakian
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Lack of co-op is probably a bigger weakness.

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#4 shoeman12
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i don't know, i haven't played it yet. can you play your own music in all ps3 games yet?
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#5 PSdual_wielder
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Nope I like the soundtrack. Even though its an obvious ripoff of Hans Zimmer's stuff, being able to get close to that level is already an achievement for a game.

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#6 daveg1
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ive just got another ps3 today and im enjoying playing this game i havent really noticed much of the soundtrack due to bullet fire and rockets going by i think the sound is great and more than makes up for a bad soundtrack..
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#7 Generalmojo
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i like the tune, not brilliant, nor pathetic, just average, opening tune quite cachy though :D

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#8 clembo1990
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Sound is under-rated. It is literally the most important part of making a classic game, it can turn a PoS into a cult classic.
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#9 HarlockJC
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Lack of co-op is probably a bigger weakness.

aflakian
Nope it is the lack of Halo are Mario in the title....
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#10 Chutebox
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I don't know, I love the soundtrack so far. Hell, I honestly love sitting at the title screen for a few minutes because the music playing is freaking awesome.

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#11 Hitman533
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Killzone 2 is one of the only PS3 games that support custom soundtracks in game and im really enjoying that feature.

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#12 larryb007
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[QUOTE="aflakian"]

Lack of co-op is probably a bigger weakness.

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Nope it is the lack of Halo are Mario in the title....

nope being a ps3 exclusive is its biggest weakness :P

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#13 deactivated-61010a1ed19f4
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the multiplayer is a weakness, theres too manmy floaws

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#14 DjCristii
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i dont like the story
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#15 Episode_Eve
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I'll have to disagree. Music is very subjective, but when you get into the realm of complementing a game's play style and art, then it can be accepted as good. I personally love the orchestrated theme. And the music in game goes along with the action, that's very impressive and sophisticated. Aside from the writing, the technical aspect of it is unrivaled. This and Halo have a very memorable theme, but overall I wouldn't say its as good as the Halo series.
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#16 MURDA_B
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killzone 2 has no weakness to me

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#17 WAIW
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Not really. While I'm a big fan of stressing the importance of soundtracks, I thought KZ2's was fine... Although as with all online FPS I would like to see an actual soundtrack online (and the VA gets annoying fast -- stop saying 'gentleman')

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#18 DeadMan1290
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[QUOTE="larryb007"]

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="aflakian"]

Lack of co-op is probably a bigger weakness.

Nope it is the lack of Halo are Mario in the title....

nope being a ps3 exclusive is its biggest weakness :P

And it starts......:D
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#19 grr320
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no FFA.

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#20 grr320
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Killzone 2 is one of the only PS3 games that support custom soundtracks in game and im really enjoying that feature.

Hitman533

lol something about almost all 360 games support.

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#21 MBP_King
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I havent noticed the music, but the SFX are really well done.

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#22 grr320
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Everything being grey?

most of the building textures are just flat looking last gen grey textures from n64 days.

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#23 grr320
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I havent noticed the music, but the SFX are really well done.

MBP_King

pump shotgun sound's like a air powered bb.gun.

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#24 canoecamue
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Tthe multiplayer is a weakness, there are too many flaws.

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FIXT
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#25 canoecamue
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Everything being grey?

most of the building textures are just flat looking last gen grey textures from n64 days.

grr320
Hater! Personally I don't think the wall textures couldn't look richer.
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#26 grr320
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most killzone2 textures remind me of half life 2, they look decent at a distance, but once you get upclose they look flat/lack detail..

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#27 grr320
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[QUOTE="grr320"]

Everything being grey?

most of the building textures are just flat looking last gen grey textures from n64 days.

canoecamue

Hater! Personally I don't think the wall textures couldn't look richer.

could use some parallax mapping.

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#28 MotoJ19
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I thought the story was the weakest part, I couldn't feel anything for the characters at all.

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#29 WAIW
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Grr, If you're gonna troll about bad textures, MGS4 is a pretty good one; I bet if you started a thread now you'd get a good 20 posts, minumum. But just flat-out saying KZ2 has 5th gen textures is too obvious to respond to, even for the most naive of posters.

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#30 Sword-Demon
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I normally dont pay attention to the soundtrack unless its particularly good or bad

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#31 PSdual_wielder
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most killzone2 textures remind me of half life 2, they look decent at a distance, but once you get upclose they look flat/lack detail..

grr320

Every game is like that, its just that because gears 2 is a third person shooter you can't zoom the camera right near the wall to see it.

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#32 tubbyc
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I agree about the music. I didn't like how it often had that Hollywood movie style a lot of the time. The other weakness is the story. Maybe it was to do with the presentation and the way it was told as well, but I found the Gears of War story and charactersto be more convincing. The graphics and gameplay are top notch though.

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#33 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="canoecamue"][QUOTE="grr320"]

Everything being grey?

most of the building textures are just flat looking last gen grey textures from n64 days.

grr320

Hater! Personally I don't think the wall textures couldn't look richer.

could use some parallax mapping.

I think you've finally done it, I think the mods are just sick of banning you and just gave up. I can't believe, you have broke the mods!
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#34 canoecamue
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[QUOTE="canoecamue"][QUOTE="grr320"]

Everything being grey?

most of the building textures are just flat looking last gen grey textures from n64 days.

grr320

Hater! Personally I don't think the wall textures couldn't look richer.

could use some parallax mapping.

That was sooo 2001
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#35 grr320
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[QUOTE="grr320"]

most killzone2 textures remind me of half life 2, they look decent at a distance, but once you get upclose they look flat/lack detail..

PSdual_wielder

Every game is like that, its just that because gears 2 is a third person shooter you can't zoom the camera right near the wall to see it.

gears of war has 2nd person view and makes camera zoom in at stuff.

killzone2 you looking down blured iron sight so bad textures not as obvious.

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#36 grr320
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[QUOTE="grr320"]

[QUOTE="canoecamue"] Hater! Personally I don't think the wall textures couldn't look richer.canoecamue

could use some parallax mapping.

That was sooo 2001

lol yet perfect dark zero from 2005 only game that used it good.

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#37 nervmeister
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My only 2 gripes with KZ2 are

1. the campaign was too short

2. No universal flashlight (a couple of areas were painfully dark)

Other than that, I thoroughly enjoyed the game.

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#38 lawlessx
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my only big problem i have with killzone 2 right now is the controls. they feel abit too loose for some reason so firefights in the game just never feel right to me.
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#39 grr320
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dev's really need to work on using parallax mapping for consoles, perfect dark zero about only game uses it decent on a console.

Why does this road texture look 3d >? because it uses parallax mapping like crazy the textures actually flat lol.

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#40 canoecamue
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[QUOTE="canoecamue"][QUOTE="grr320"]

could use some parallax mapping.

grr320

That was sooo 2001

lol yet perfect dark zero from 2005 only game that used it good.

Another 360 exclusive, it all becomes clear.... NOWAI GUIS HAILO IZ TEH BESTS!!!!1!
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#41 PSdual_wielder
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[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

[QUOTE="grr320"]

most killzone2 textures remind me of half life 2, they look decent at a distance, but once you get upclose they look flat/lack detail..

grr320

Every game is like that, its just that because gears 2 is a third person shooter you can't zoom the camera right near the wall to see it.

gears of war has 2nd person view and makes camera zoom in at stuff.

killzone2 you looking down blured iron sight so bad textures not as obvious.

If I actually think with your logic for a sec I think I would have contradicted myself by saying that the blurred iron sight makes the textures look bad.

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#42 grr320
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[QUOTE="grr320"]

[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

Every game is like that, its just that because gears 2 is a third person shooter you can't zoom the camera right near the wall to see it.

PSdual_wielder

gears of war has 2nd person view and makes camera zoom in at stuff.

killzone2 you looking down blured iron sight so bad textures not as obvious.

If I actually think with your logic for a sec I think I would have contradicted myself by saying that the blurred iron sight makes the textures look bad.

nope bluring hides imperfections

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#43 Rhubarb9
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KZ2 has no big weakness
even the lems here can't agree on what this big issue is....

KZ2 is a solid great game and you can nitpick at it just as you can nitpick on any other AAAE

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#44 grr320
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killzone2 does have some textures with good use of parallax mapping, but the texture quality isnt the same high quality throughout.

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[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

[QUOTE="grr320"]

gears of war has 2nd person view and makes camera zoom in at stuff.

killzone2 you looking down blured iron sight so bad textures not as obvious.

grr320

If I actually think with your logic for a sec I think I would have contradicted myself by saying that the blurred iron sight makes the textures look bad.

nope bluring hides imperfections

Fanboy goggles hides major imperfections.

Btw, what systems do you even play?

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#46 Sword-Demon
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[QUOTE="grr320"]

[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

[QUOTE="grr320"]

gears of war has 2nd person view and makes camera zoom in at stuff.

killzone2 you looking down blured iron sight so bad textures not as obvious.

If I actually think with your logic for a sec I think I would have contradicted myself by saying that the blurred iron sight makes the textures look bad.

nope bluring hides imperfections

hiding imperfections makes the game look better, so i really dont see how its a bad thing
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#47 grr320
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[QUOTE="grr320"]

[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

If I actually think with your logic for a sec I think I would have contradicted myself by saying that the blurred iron sight makes the textures look bad.

Sword-Demon

nope bluring hides imperfections

hiding imperfections makes the game look better, so i really dont see how its a bad thing

lol real life doesnt have motion blur unless you moving fast as hell.

plus they use it to cover up the poor work their texture artist did.

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#48 fenwickhotmail
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Lack of co-op and the crazy aiming is more noticable to me.
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#49 Master-Thief-09
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Lack of co-op is probably a bigger weakness.

aflakian
I agree with you there. I mean it's a squad based game, it would be great.
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#50 ArisShadows
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Lack of co-op is probably a bigger weakness.

aflakian
This.