Killzone 3 beta: MLAA artifacts (HD)

http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/killzone-3-beta-mlaa-artifacts

I've said it before and I will say it again, MLAA is God on jaggies but it presents a new set of annoyance; Flickering/shimmering. Since KZ3 uses the same MLAA technique used in GOW3, it presents the same flickering mess, see Gow3 flickering issue below link.......In my eyes, flickering is just as annoying as jaggies. LBP2 also suffer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQXkFzCvJqQ

I hear them coming.:P

As much as I hate defending Killzone: IT's freaking Alpha Code. It's normal to have problems like that arise. They will probably fix it for release. (Let's hope or else fanboys will have a field day.)wizardwd

Hmmm. I thought the shimmering along the edges were jaggies too.

Let's ignore the fact that the rest of the game looks amazing. Nope, the one table while played during Alpha code renders the WHOLE game horrible looking :roll:

[QUOTE="wizardwd"]As much as I hate defending Killzone: IT's freaking Alpha Code. It's normal to have problems like that arise. They will probably fix it for release. (Let's hope or else fanboys will have a field day.)MFDOOM1983

As much as I hate defending Killzone: IT's freaking Alpha Code. It's normal to have problems like that arise. They will probably fix it for release. (Let's hope or else fanboys will have a field day.)wizardwd

No it will not be fixed, seeing that Santa Monica couldn't hide the artefacts even in the Final Gow3 game.

Sony needs to come up with a filter already

Let's ignore the fact that the rest of the game looks amazing. Nope, the one table while played during Alpha code renders the WHOLE game horrible looking :roll:

xYamatox

No it's not only one table, it's almost every straight edge in the game, especially near light sources.

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Let's ignore the fact that the rest of the game looks amazing. Nope, the one table while played during Alpha code renders the WHOLE game horrible looking :roll:

xYamatox

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="wizardwd"]As much as I hate defending Killzone: IT's freaking Alpha Code. It's normal to have problems like that arise. They will probably fix it for release. (Let's hope or else fanboys will have a field day.)wizardwd

OMG GAME IS INFERIOR!!!! holy crap graphics are horrible, that means its going to be horrible!

graphics=everything!!!!!!!!!!!

[QUOTE="xYamatox"]

Let's ignore the fact that the rest of the game looks amazing. Nope, the one table while played during Alpha code renders the WHOLE game horrible looking :roll:

yugioh3ds

No it's not only one table, it's almost every straight edge in the game, especially near light sources.

You in the Beta? Because I am. I can ASSURE you, the game looks great. Please don't pass judgement on horrible screenshots. Just watch at some HD videos of the game. It looks amazing.

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[QUOTE="xYamatox"]

Let's ignore the fact that the rest of the game looks amazing. Nope, the one table while played during Alpha code renders the WHOLE game horrible looking :roll:

xYamatox

No it's not only one table, it's almost every straight edge in the game, especially near light sources.

You in the Beta? Because I am. I can ASSURE you, the game looks great. Please don't pass judgement on horrible screenshots. Just watch at some HD videos of the game. It looks amazing.

[QUOTE="yugioh3ds"]

[QUOTE="xYamatox"]

Let's ignore the fact that the rest of the game looks amazing. Nope, the one table while played during Alpha code renders the WHOLE game horrible looking :roll:

xYamatox

No it's not only one table, it's almost every straight edge in the game, especially near light sources.

You in the Beta? Because I am. I can ASSURE you, the game looks great. Please don't pass judgement on horrible screenshots. Just watch at some HD videos of the game. It looks amazing.

If you look at my post, you will see that i praise the graphics.......im just annoyed by the ugly artefacts

It's Alpha, but really, that needs to get fixed, hurts my eyes too.

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[QUOTE="yugioh3ds"]

No it's not only one table, it's almost every straight edge in the game, especially near light sources.

MFDOOM1983

You in the Beta? Because I am. I can ASSURE you, the game looks great. Please don't pass judgement on horrible screenshots. Just watch at some HD videos of the game. It looks amazing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl1QYU0LtC8

Don't see much wrong in this video.

Sony needs to find a Filter for it already...

What's the use of crystal clear, jaggie-free textures if the flickering is tearing my eyes apart

Sony needs to find a Filter for it already...

What's the use of crystal clear, jaggie-free textures if the flickering is tearing my eyes apart

yugioh3ds

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]

[QUOTE="xYamatox"]

You in the Beta? Because I am. I can ASSURE you, the game looks great. Please don't pass judgement on horrible screenshots. Just watch at some HD videos of the game. It looks amazing.

xYamatox

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl1QYU0LtC8

Don't see much wrong in this video.

"ive seen crysis. and all i can say is ur a fanboy for that statement... NOGAME looks better then kz3 and especially no byfar"

As much as I hate defending Killzone: IT's freaking Alpha Code. It's normal to have problems like that arise. They will probably fix it for release. (Let's hope or else fanboys will have a field day.)wizardwd

no, this is just one of the disadvantages of MLAA as a whole.

it's an AA method that's similar to not having any AA at all (in terms of how much it consumes in system resources)

the flickering effects are also present when you use it for a PC game. the Radeon 6XXX series is capable of MLAA. and in a few benchmarks by Tomshardware it was noted that MLAA's effect on system resources, was in fact, identical to having no AA solution at all.

but the major disadvantage was the shimmering effect. and some undesirable effects on text.

[QUOTE="wizardwd"]As much as I hate defending Killzone: IT's freaking Alpha Code. It's normal to have problems like that arise. They will probably fix it for release. (Let's hope or else fanboys will have a field day.)HavocV3

no, this is just one of the disadvantages of MLAA as a whole.

it's an AA method that's similar to not having any AA at all (in terms of how much it consumes in system resources)

the flickering effects are also present when you use it for a PC game. the 6XXX series is capable of MLAA and tomshardware noted the advantage of having this AA method is that it's basically the same as having no AA on at all. but the disadvantage was in fact, the shimmering effect.

it also puts undesirable effects on text, but I'm sure that's something that can be altered by the final product.

[QUOTE="HavocV3"]

[QUOTE="wizardwd"]As much as I hate defending Killzone: IT's freaking Alpha Code. It's normal to have problems like that arise. They will probably fix it for release. (Let's hope or else fanboys will have a field day.)wizardwd

no, this is just one of the disadvantages of MLAA as a whole.

it's an AA method that's similar to not having any AA at all (in terms of how much it consumes in system resources)

the flickering effects are also present when you use it for a PC game. the 6XXX series is capable of MLAA and tomshardware noted the advantage of having this AA method is that it's basically the same as having no AA on at all. but the disadvantage was in fact, the shimmering effect.

it also puts undesirable effects on text, but I'm sure that's something that can be altered by the final product.

If there was a fix, I'm sure Sony will be the first to incorporate it. But for now it seems like we're just gonna have to deal with it

Wow, lemmings really hate KZ3. It's worse than it was with Reach!

Then again, KZ2 was targeted heavily as well.

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Let's ignore the fact that the rest of the game looks amazing. Nope, the one table while played during Alpha code renders the WHOLE game horrible looking :roll:

MFDOOM1983

It's not even beta footage... Get over it, another keyword "TESTING"... Ever heard of it? It means where you check something out to make sure there aren't any problems, it also allows time to fix discovered problems... People treating alpha and beta code like they did something to deserve the freebies really must educate themselves.

[QUOTE="wizardwd"][QUOTE="HavocV3"]

no, this is just one of the disadvantages of MLAA as a whole.

it's an AA method that's similar to not having any AA at all (in terms of how much it consumes in system resources)

the flickering effects are also present when you use it for a PC game. the 6XXX series is capable of MLAA and tomshardware noted the advantage of having this AA method is that it's basically the same as having no AA on at all. but the disadvantage was in fact, the shimmering effect.

it also puts undesirable effects on text, but I'm sure that's something that can be altered by the final product.

yugioh3ds

If there was a fix, I'm sure Sony will be the first to incorporate it. But for now it seems like we're just gonna have to deal with it

Im sorry but......I have no idea what your talking about :?

Just cancelled my pre order

Just cancelled my pre order

iMojo786_PSN

Get a new TV or something... GOW3 didnt have any "flickering".

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Just cancelled my pre order

AznKSor

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="wizardwd"]As much as I hate defending Killzone: IT's freaking Alpha Code. It's normal to have problems like that arise. They will probably fix it for release. (Let's hope or else fanboys will have a field day.)wizardwd

UM this is System Wars.... People LOVE to BASH games to DEATHBEFORE they LAUNCH, after not as much.

Who cares if your so concerned about graphics get a PC, There working with what they have and I'm sure it will look good for a console game.

Well of course it has artifacts its common with MLAA, you have to design a game around it almost to have little to no artifacting from it. Its because the AA is applied after the screen is rendered.

What flickering in GoW III? I played recently and don't recall anything like that, not like a COD game or BC2.

[QUOTE="iMojo786_PSN"]

Just cancelled my pre order

AznKSor

Thats strange, I thought that 'flickering' in that GoW3 video was the light?

Anyway, GoW3 looks brilliant at 720p via HDMI on my LCD 24' 1080p monitor and had no 'flickering' that I seen.

Maybe your TV sucks and your still using composite video....

Is it really that big of a deal? Given that we are talking consoles here, some jaggies are to be expected. They are a mainstream gaming solution, not an enthusiast one.

They could have used proper AA, but that is performance intensive; and would have retracted from other areas. So they used a compromise, a cheaper form of AA. That is what console graphics are about, finding the cheapest way of achieving the desired result. If you want brute forced quality; then you have to pay for it.

its a beta, brosef.

? what is wrong? game looks fantastic visually. Why are 95% of the topics about graphics?

? what is wrong? game looks fantastic visually. Why are 95% of the topics about graphics?

theuncharted34

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

? what is wrong? game looks fantastic visually. Why are 95% of the topics about graphics?

navyguy21

that is to draw attention, like it just did :P