Killzone 3 to have Coop and Splitscreen

According to this leak, Killzone 3 might have splitscreen coop.

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Sounds good if it's true.

This is good news, but I'll wait for confirmation.

"Players: 1-2 (offline) 2-24 (online)"

Seems like it, looks like their fixing damn near every problem people had with the second game.

That would certainly be surprising, but I doubt the PS3 could handle the splitscreen. Unless the quality is downgraded.tagyhag

they reduce the 32 cap for multiplayer? how come?

they reduce the 32 cap for multiplayer? how come?

TheShadowLord07

"Players: 1-2 (offline) 2-24 (online) Players: 1-2 (offline) 2-24 (online) " Seems like it, looks like their fixing damn near every problem people had with the second game.FIipMode

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]That would certainly be surprising, but I doubt the PS3 could handle the splitscreen. Unless the quality is downgraded.J-WOW

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]"Players: 1-2 (offline) 2-24 (online) Players: 1-2 (offline) 2-24 (online) " Seems like it, looks like their fixing damn near every problem people had with the second game.J-WOW

Have hope, if enough people voice their opinions on the official Killzone forums and the Playstation online Killzone forums then Guerilla might put the dedicated servers back as long as they see the demand for it. I have been supporting the demand for 32 players.

we already knew about co-op (no real details tho) and I hope its offline 4 player splitscreenJ-WOW

Games that are tech heavy can't allow that many players on the same console. That's why Halo Reach will be limited to 2 player campaign split screen instead of the 4 players we are used to in Halo 3, for example. The systems (PS3 and 360) probably can't handle 4 players at that quality (at a steady frame rate).

I dont know why people are supurised about this. They are listening to EVERYTHING the fans and the haters asked for, and this was at the top of the list. I also dont understand why people think it would be hard to get slitscreen in the game without a downgrade. Given what Guerrilla and other sony devs have done on the platform, im pretty including a feature like this isnt exactly out of their capacity lol.TheMISCMan48

they reduce the 32 cap for multiplayer? how come?

TheShadowLord07

I don't think its a cap, maybe a just a limit set for the map that the demo was played on.

Otherwise, I can't wait for Killzone 3 :D

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]"Players: 1-2 (offline) 2-24 (online) Players: 1-2 (offline) 2-24 (online) " Seems like it, looks like their fixing damn near every problem people had with the second game.J-WOW

You gotta understand that this isn't magic. There may have to be compromises somewhere. An 8 player cut may be the cost. As much as a I liked 32 player matches in KZ2, I was more comfortable with the 24 player matches (more maps catered to 24 player anyways).

[QUOTE="J-WOW"]we already knew about co-op (no real details tho) and I hope its offline 4 player splitscreenTREAL_Since

Games that are tech heavy can't allow that many players on the same console. That's why Halo Reach will be limited to 2 player campaign split screen instead of the 4 players we are used to in Halo 3, for example. The systems (PS3 and 360) probably can't handle 4 players at that quality (at a steady frame rate).

I really hope it has splitscreen, I can understand the decline of it, but I still love when games include it. black_tempest

They didn't? Can you prove this? Generating 2 images requires a different optimization, even when you do 3D which doesn't require 2 separate image to be generated still imposed a significant stress on resources. Not to mention that UT3 games are nothing to be proud of compare to many PS3 exclusives.mystervj

I have no idea how I can prove that. :lol:

But if this makes you feel better.

"For example, the graphics in multiplayer now match the quality of the single-player game, something that didn't happen in the original GRAW"

[QUOTE="black_tempest"]I really hope it has splitscreen, I can understand the decline of it, but I still love when games include it. Ringx55

"Players: 1-2 (offline) 2-24 (online)"

Seems like it, looks like their fixing damn near every problem people had with the second game.

FIipMode

[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

[QUOTE="J-WOW"]we already knew about co-op (no real details tho) and I hope its offline 4 player splitscreentagyhag

Games that are tech heavy can't allow that many players on the same console. That's why Halo Reach will be limited to 2 player campaign split screen instead of the 4 players we are used to in Halo 3, for example. The systems (PS3 and 360) probably can't handle 4 players at that quality (at a steady frame rate).

4 players on one system is likely possible because the graphics are downgraded for Halo's multiplayer (only 2 players are avaible on one 360 for Generator Defense though). Killzone devs said the graphics in multiplayer and single player will be the same. This is what prevents 4 player split screen for multiplayer. A negative for those who really wanted it :(.

[QUOTE="mystervj"] They didn't? Can you prove this? Generating 2 images requires a different optimization, even when you do 3D which doesn't require 2 separate image to be generated still imposed a significant stress on resources. Not to mention that UT3 games are nothing to be proud of compare to many PS3 exclusives.tagyhag

I have no idea how I can prove that. :lol:

But if this makes you feel better.

"For example, the graphics in multiplayer now match the quality of the single-player game, something that didn't happen in the original GRAW"

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

"Players: 1-2 (offline) 2-24 (online)"

Seems like it, looks like their fixing damn near every problem people had with the second game.

NoobisMaxcimus

yea. Im still suprise he didnt

[spoiler] get court marshall for killing visari. [/spoiler]

[QUOTE="mystervj"][QUOTE="tagyhag"]That would certainly be surprising, but I doubt the PS3 could handle the splitscreen. Unless the quality is downgraded.tagyhag

i could swear epic added it in with a patch need to check at round 3pm gmt as im bout to shoot off for work :(

[QUOTE="mystervj"][QUOTE="tagyhag"]That would certainly be surprising, but I doubt the PS3 could handle the splitscreen. Unless the quality is downgraded.tagyhag

When I used to play Gears 2 the graphics for Single Player were noticeably better than multiplayer. I can't say for GRAW 2 since I never played it. But GRAW has never really been a technically demanding game in my eyes hehe. UT3 doesn't really have a single player. It's just multiplayer maps that are given some bull crap story sequences in between :P. UT3 SP and MP looked pretty much the same when I used to own it on PS3.

In general, graphics are usually downgraded from mutliplayer in console games. From what I've played of Rainbow Six, Gears 2, Uncharted 2, Halo 3, Resistance 2, Resistance 1, Call of Duty 4, and Call of Duty WAW - they are all noticeably downgraded. The only games I've played this gen where it's very hard to tell any differences are Killzone 2, MW2, and Bad Company 2.

In 3D?! That sounds terrible...

I might have a feeling that offline co-op will play just like Call of duty W@W for the Wii.

one person with dualshock 3 and the other with the ps move controller.

Can match doesn't mean no downgrade is present, GRAW 2's gfx is nothing to be proud of, nor is any of splitscreen games. Generating 2 separate frame buffer normally reduces geometry detail to make up for it. mystervj

GRAW 2 looked great when it came out (It even said so on the review) :P

From those games that I've played, those were the ones that I didn't notice that changed visually from campaign to multiplayer, especially the splitscreen PC games like Blur (Of course you might be right since I never saw them side by side).

Wasn't this a rumour like a month ago, and they said no?C-Lee

Different rumor.

Now I just need to find some people to play Killzone with me locally.siLVURcross

On the note of graphics being reduced for splitscreen, they technically are in the nature of spltscreen. sure it;s generating 2 screens, but each is only half res, making it much easier. If it had to do 2 full screens then forget it. So i'd say it's possible to keep details and effects the same for splitscreen, though still very difficult.

[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]Now I just need to find some people to play Killzone with me locally.SilverChimera

I agree with the size reduction. The maps in killzone were a little bit too big.. Because all people did was crowd in like one small area of the map and 32 people would just destroy each other and it was a mess at times.

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]"Players: 1-2 (offline) 2-24 (online) Players: 1-2 (offline) 2-24 (online) " Seems like it, looks like their fixing damn near every problem people had with the second game.J-WOW

Bigger maps, Vehicles, better effects, balance, PS3 limited in power, 32 players turns the game into a cluster-!@#$

^^ Take your pick. I love the fact 6 less people adds all of the above.

I think they hinted at it bits and pieces along the way, can't wait for a full confirmation with details on this.