Killzone matched prerendered trailer better than Halo matched realtimetrailer :)

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#1 Ancarter
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KILLZONE 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko9xC6TMdiw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e18ljZacSGg

HALO 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTG3Fipq79g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l13C78xb6pk

http://images.amazon.com/images/G/01/videogames/detail-page/halo3-3-lg.jpg

http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Halo3/Screenshots/h3_ChiefJungle_0706.jpg

Nice work. Sony gave us a great vision on what next gen games were going to be like and they are actually delivering on that. :)

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#2 Killfox
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Weak. Heres a flame shield with leet hax. Enjoy.
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#3 MegaPigeon
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No.
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Well I hope you feel better now...
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Bungie said when the first campaign sceen was released that the E3 05 and 07 Chiefs are the same models, the 07 Chief does not have the "concrete" texturing that the 05 Chief did because the artists at Bungie thought he looked better without them. There the explination.

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Bungie said when the first campaign sceen was released that the E3 05 and 07 Chiefs are the same models, the 07 Chief does not have the "concrete" texturing that the 05 Chief did because the artists at Bungie thought he looked better without them. There the explination.

Bansheesdie

It doesn't matter what they say. The proof is in front of your eyes. The new version of Master Chief is obviously downgraded from the old one. After they swore up and down that this is what the game would look like.

Hey wait, they did this already with Halo 2.

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#7 legalize3
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verry good thread

maybe now lemming will see the light and admit

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It doesn't matter what they say. The proof is in front of your eyes. The new version of Master Chief is obviously downgraded from the old one. After they swore up and down that this is what the game would look like.

Hey wait, they did this already with Halo 2.

Ancarter

Want to know the differences? They are as simple as textures and visor reflection, those are the only changes. Bungie also said in November 2005that the changes between the Chiefs was only 1%, which was pretty damned close.

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#9 D0013ER
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verry good thread

maybe now lemming will see the light and admit

legalize3

Admit what? That the only time cows (indirectly) give any credit to Halo is when they're looking for something to upstage it?

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#10 wolverine4262
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"We're not talking crysis levels of photorealistic detail here, but pretty close."

"If you've got any qualms about the visual fidelity of the single-player game, let's just put those to rest right off the bat."

"The visuals are clear and crisp, as well as bright and colorful."

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#11 Spartan070
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Umm, lol.

The two Halo trailers use the same engine, just different texturing.

Last years Killzone2 trailer doesn't even use an engine.:?

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#12 Spartan070
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Bansheesdie

Love the new avatar.

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"We're not talking crysis levels of photorealistic detail here, but pretty close."

"If you've got any qualms about the visual fidelity of the single-player game, let's just put those to rest right off the bat."

"The visuals are clear and crisp, as well as bright and colorful."

wolverine4262

Noooo. Don't spoil Sony fan's fun by pointing out the people who actually watched the most recent build played are telling everyone it looks fantastic.

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Teh cell! :o
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[QUOTE="wolverine4262"]

"We're not talking crysis levels of photorealistic detail here, but pretty close."

"If you've got any qualms about the visual fidelity of the single-player game, let's just put those to rest right off the bat."

"The visuals are clear and crisp, as well as bright and colorful."

Newnab

Noooo. Don't spoil Sony fan's fun by pointing out the people who actually watched the most recent build played are telling everyone it looks fantastic.

Oh man! Im sorry... I didnt even think about that. It wont happen again.
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#16 wolverine4262
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Those articles also talk about how amazing the AI and audio is, in particular, the battle chatter...
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#17 Killfox
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Thats how you know joystick is a biased source. The game looks no were near crysis level. We dont even know crysis level yet either. Last time i checked they havent even finished the DX10 version yet.

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Thats how you know joystick is a biased source. The game looks no were near crysis level. We dont even know crysis level yet either. Last time i checked they havent even finished the DX10 version yet.

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Good thing both IGN and GS rave about the graphics, too... Oh, and Joystiq is biased? I could have sworn cows used its HS preview to argue how good it was... ITs only biased when it suits you. And, Id rather take te word of a journalist who has actually seen the game running then anybody on here...
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#19 legalize3
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LMAO :lol:

and lemmings bashing killzone in alpha state...

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Actually it didn't. Halo is 99% of what its real time trailer promised, Killzone is maybe 60% of its CGI. That doesn't make Killzone an ugly game, but I still think Halo is a better looking game. Especially textures.
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The worst part of the Halo 3 trailer is how archiac it looks. The animations are terrible! Everyone moves around like they did in Halo 2. The part where that creature kicks that marine should not have made it into the trailer.

And the character models are even worse. Human models take the brunt of casualties. That girl who spins around with two guns looks like crap, Cortana looks completely ugly and the marines look the same as before. The only thing that looks okay is SOME of the explosions and a couple panoramic shots. Overall i's pretty much an embarassing trailer.

Why do you guys think it didn't get any applause at the Microsoft conference?

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The worst part of the Halo 3 trailer is how archiac it looks. The animations are terrible! Everyone moves around like they did in Halo 2. The part where that creature kicks that marine should not have made it into the trailer.

And the character models are even worse. Human models take the brunt of casualties. That girl who spins around with two guns looks like crap, Cortana looks completely ugly and the marines look the same as before. The only thing that looks okay is SOME of the explosions and a couple panoramic shots. Overall i's pretty much an embarassing trailer.

Why do you guys think it didn't get any applause at the Microsoft conference?

Ancarter

Oh wait, like the way most confrences end? Because they CUT OFF THE AUDIO AND VIDEO FEED AT THE END?

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[QUOTE="Newnab"][QUOTE="wolverine4262"]

"We're not talking crysis levels of photorealistic detail here, but pretty close."

"If you've got any qualms about the visual fidelity of the single-player game, let's just put those to rest right off the bat."

"The visuals are clear and crisp, as well as bright and colorful."

wolverine4262

Noooo. Don't spoil Sony fan's fun by pointing out the people who actually watched the most recent build played are telling everyone it looks fantastic.

Oh man! Im sorry... I didnt even think about that. It wont happen again.

Yeah, I mean, give them something. They've got no games to play on their console, this is all they have.

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The worst part of the Halo 3 trailer is how archiac it looks. The animations are terrible! Everyone moves around like they did in Halo 2. The part where that creature kicks that marine should not have made it into the trailer.

And the character models are even worse. Human models take the brunt of casualties. That girl who spins around with two guns looks like crap, Cortana looks completely ugly and the marines look the same as before. The only thing that looks okay is SOME of the explosions and a couple panoramic shots. Overall i's pretty much an embarassing trailer.

Why do you guys think it didn't get any applause at the Microsoft conference?

Ancarter

If Halo 3 is supposedly so terrible then why is (in your opinion) Killzone 2 outperforming it an accomplishment?...

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[QUOTE="Killfox"]

Thats how you know joystick is a biased source. The game looks no were near crysis level. We dont even know crysis level yet either. Last time i checked they havent even finished the DX10 version yet.

wolverine4262

Good thing both IGN and GS rave about the graphics, too... Oh, and Joystiq is biased? I could have sworn cows used its HS preview to argue how good it was... ITs only biased when it suits you. And, Id rather take te word of a journalist who has actually seen the game running then anybody on here...

Yeah and they have yet to play crysis in DX10 which is supposed to look amazing. Everything they have played and seen is DX9. Which looks amazing in itself but not what DX10 will look liie.

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#26 hockeyruler12
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The Halo 3 models are all the same as the E3 2006 trailer...they just changed the armour texture.

So I would have to say Halo 3 matched the realtime trailer better, because they are almost the exact same thing.

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#27 furtherfan
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halo3 looks as good as it can look. the did an excellent job. they still have the halo looks, but everything is SO MUCH better technically.

The character model is exactly the same as in the target renders, except for the shiney sandgrain texture.. many people don't know this. they all fail and think shiney is better .

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Cue drums and nauseating, pretentious piano key:

Whoa, wow, look at those water textures! Lair Killer!

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#29 Redfingers
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halo3 looks as good as it can look. the did an excellent job. they still have the halo looks, but everything is SO MUCH better technically.

The character model is exactly the same as in the target renders, except for the shiney sandgrain texture.. many people don't know this. they all fail and think shiney is better .

furtherfan

Are you trying to say "it looks so much better" than the TRAILER? Because if you are, I want the right to quote you on that.

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#30 xboxdude333
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I guess now if some game has textures changed it becomes teh suxor's.
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#31 dracolich666
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Umm, lol.

The two Halo trailers use the same engine, just different texturing.

Last years Killzone2 trailer doesn't even use an engine.:?

Spartan070

Yup. And halo looks better then killzone 2, so i dont see the problem here? :lol:

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#32 RazMaTaz-1
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i cant believe lemmings still thing Halo will match that CGI trailer. Even the latest trailer of Halo 3 at E3 2007 showed how weak the graphics are. I mean seriously, Its just excuses after excuses. You got no proof.
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Bungie said when the first campaign sceen was released that the E3 05 and 07 Chiefs are the same models, the 07 Chief does not have the "concrete" texturing that the 05 Chief did because the artists at Bungie thought he looked better without them. There the explination.

Bansheesdie

Not to mention that the current textures look better than the trailers.

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#34 shaggymcp
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LMAO :lol:

and lemmings bashing killzone in alpha state...

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Now processing case# 3319765

Case of Halo 3 missing Target Render BIG TIME

Ownage : Stamped, Dated, and APPROVED.

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#35 Killfox
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Honestly if they said its styel they are wrong. Ill name a couple of things that dont look as good as trailer from last year. Heres the big one. Look at the suit in the trailer. Everything is 3 dimentional. Everything has depth. There not just flat textures. For example, look at the the shoulder piece in from the trailer. You can actually see that there is and indent their and has depth to it. Now look at the one from this years trailer. Its flat. There just a lot less detail and depth. There no bumb mapping either to make it look like it has depth.
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[QUOTE="Ancarter"]It doesn't matter what they say. The proof is in front of your eyes. The new version of Master Chief is obviously downgraded from the old one. After they swore up and down that this is what the game would look like.

Hey wait, they did this already with Halo 2.

Bansheesdie

Want to know the differences? They are as simple as textures and visor reflection, those are the only changes. Bungie also said in November 2005that the changes between the Chiefs was only 1%, which was pretty damned close.

Umm, lol.

The two Halo trailers use the same engine, just different texturing.

Last years Killzone2 trailer doesn't even use an engine.:?

Spartan070
KZ2 wasn't shown last year!:shock:
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I love how people continue to ignore the previews I posted! Those journalists are the only ones who can comment on Halo 3s single plaer graphics b/c they are the only ones to actually see it being played. SS never do a game justice and the trailer is bad b/c it shows different clips every 3 secs!
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I love how people continue to ignore the previews I posted! Those journalists are the only ones who can comment on Halo 3s single plaer graphics b/c they are the only ones to actually see it being played. SS never do a game justice and the trailer is bad b/c it shows different clips every 3 secs!wolverine4262
That was a bad move by M$.They cut it upWAY to much!I can barely bash it!:P
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[QUOTE="wolverine4262"]I love how people continue to ignore the previews I posted! Those journalists are the only ones who can comment on Halo 3s single plaer graphics b/c they are the only ones to actually see it being played. SS never do a game justice and the trailer is bad b/c it shows different clips every 3 secs!ragrdoll21
That was a bad move by M$.They cut it upWAY to much!I can barely bash it!:P

Well I heard the trailer was made at the last minute after Bungie worried that the demo wouldnt be ready for E3... The trailer was also made using Halos saved film feature...
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[QUOTE="furtherfan"]

halo3 looks as good as it can look. the did an excellent job. they still have the halo looks, but everything is SO MUCH better technically.

The character model is exactly the same as in the target renders, except for the shiney sandgrain texture.. many people don't know this. they all fail and think shiney is better .

Redfingers

Are you trying to say "it looks so much better" than the TRAILER? Because if you are, I want the right to quote you on that.

where do i say that?. read

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[QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="wolverine4262"]I love how people continue to ignore the previews I posted! Those journalists are the only ones who can comment on Halo 3s single plaer graphics b/c they are the only ones to actually see it being played. SS never do a game justice and the trailer is bad b/c it shows different clips every 3 secs!wolverine4262
That was a bad move by M$.They cut it upWAY to much!I can barely bash it!:P

Well I heard the trailer was made at the last minute after Bungie worried that the demo wouldnt be ready for E3... The trailer was also made using Halos saved film feature...

IDK and IDC it was a horrible move by Bungie.
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[QUOTE="wolverine4262"][QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="wolverine4262"]I love how people continue to ignore the previews I posted! Those journalists are the only ones who can comment on Halo 3s single plaer graphics b/c they are the only ones to actually see it being played. SS never do a game justice and the trailer is bad b/c it shows different clips every 3 secs!ragrdoll21
That was a bad move by M$.They cut it upWAY to much!I can barely bash it!:P

Well I heard the trailer was made at the last minute after Bungie worried that the demo wouldnt be ready for E3... The trailer was also made using Halos saved film feature...

IDK and IDC it was a horrible move by Bungie.

Id have to agree.... I really wanted to see a demo.
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#44 fistertain
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hmmm, looks pretty close to me ...

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#45 legalize3
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hmmm, looks pretty close to me ...

fistertain

to this ?

:? ........ :lol:

bungie failed bad im sorry its not even close its close to halo 2

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[QUOTE="fistertain"]

hmmm, looks pretty close to me ...

legalize3

to this ?

:? ........ :lol:

bungie failed bad im sorry its not even close its close to halo 2

Multi compared to Single, Nubs
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#48 Spartan070
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bungie failed bad im sorry its not even close its close to halo 2

legalize3

O'RLY?

Look at the trees, the ground and rock textures and the particle effects.

OWNED MUCH???