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#1 walkingdream
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Even though the article is old i'm pretty sure this hasn't been posted yet. Seems 343i is paying some big money to get these people into the studio. I also believe not included in this report that an Ex Kojima employee who worked on MGS was hired by 343i (however i cannot remember what his position was).

343i must have some dough sitting around...

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#2 JordanizPro
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Nooooo Killzone's online multiplayer sucks eggs,they need to work with some otherpeople:(

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Even though the article is old i'm pretty sure this hasn't been posted yet. Seems 343i is paying some big money to get these people into the studio. I also believe not included in this report that an Ex Kojima employee who worked on MGS was hired by 343i (however i cannot remember what his position was).

343i must have some dough sitting around...

walkingdream

The dough calledM$

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Now lets see the fruits of their labor.
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#6 madsnakehhh
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So? i'm pretty sure Halo 4 will be more in touch with previous Halos than with Killzone or Metroid.

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#7 eboyishere
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KZ devs.... Some one wants to be a graphic king
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#8 SaltyMeatballs
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Good to get different perspectives I guess. Halo 4 is gonna be a beast!
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#9 SaltyMeatballs
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[QUOTE="JordanizPro"]

Nooooo Killzone's online multiplayer sucks eggs,they need to work with some otherpeople:(

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Maybe they are single player people? Maybe they are people that work on water or are marketing people? We don't know who they are, do we?

KZ dude was part of the online MP... doesn't mean he will be in Halo 4 though.
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I also believe not included in this report that an Ex Kojima employee who worked on MGS was hired by 343i (however i cannot remember what his position was).walkingdream
Ryan Payton, I think.
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At least Guerilla got Eric Boltjes (the guy that made KZ2 great and missed from KZ3 team) back :) KZ4 is in good hands!

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#12 KC_Hokie
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Lot's of talent working on it.
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#13 spookykid143
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Halo 4 is going to be great, This, Biohock infinite and the last guardian will be the top 3 games next year.

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At least Guerilla got Eric Boltjes (the guy that made KZ2 great and missed from KZ3 team) back :) KZ4 is in good hands!

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Half of the kz2 staff didn't even work on kz3.... They are coming back tho
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Lock on and blur even when your standing still confirmed.

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#17 Mario1331
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what metroid got to do with it im confused

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#18 Cherokee_Jack
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I also believe not included in this report that an Ex Kojima employee who worked on MGS was hired by 343i (however i cannot remember what his position was).walkingdream

Ryan Payton. He was the assistant producer on MGS4, and as I understand it he's been given a lot of credit for modernizing the gameplay.

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#19 Bangerman15
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[QUOTE="spookykid143"]

Halo 4 is going to be great, This, Biohock infinite and the last guardian will be the top 3 games next year.

getyeryayasout
Is Halo 4 coming out next year? I kind of think it'll be a launch title for MS's next console, I hope I'm wrong.

so youd rather have halo 4 run on 6 year old hardware? I hope it's a launch title for MS's next console, would be a great way for them to sell consoles, you know how many people would buy a new console to play halo 4? esp if it has beastly graphics.. Imo halo 4 deserves to have great graphics and resolution and would be more fit on a new console compared to running at 560p at 30fps on the 360, Gears 3 should be the last good exclusive for the 360
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#20 walkingdream
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what metroid got to do with it im confused

Mario1331

"Kynan Pearsonhas worked with Retro studios for 7 years and has all the Metroid Prime games on his list of credits. He also played a significant role in Retro's latest hit game Donkey Kong Country Returns."

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#21 walkingdream
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[QUOTE="getyeryayasout"][QUOTE="spookykid143"]

Halo 4 is going to be great, This, Biohock infinite and the last guardian will be the top 3 games next year.

Bangerman15
Is Halo 4 coming out next year? I kind of think it'll be a launch title for MS's next console, I hope I'm wrong.

so youd rather have halo 4 run on 6 year old hardware? I hope it's a launch title for MS's next console, would be a great way for them to sell consoles, you know how many people would buy a new console to play halo 4? esp if it has beastly graphics.. Imo halo 4 deserves to have great graphics and resolution and would be more fit on a new console compared to running at 560p at 30fps on the 360, Gears 3 should be the last good exclusive for the 360

I agree i would of preferred Halo 4 to be on the next console. But i think Microsoft have made it clear it won't be happening for a while. I'm guessing Halo 5 and 6 will be. BTW Halo 4 is confirmed to be on the 360.
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#22 Chutebox
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Nooooo Killzone's online multiplayer sucks eggs,they need to work with some otherpeople:(

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I read your comment then your sig and laughed. And I'm glad they're doing that. Get some fresh ideas into Halo.
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#23 steviebhoy6sic6
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no doubt the xbox fan boys who said KZ and Metroid weren't good will be in saying this game is amazing but KZ & Metorid are c**p will probably still be a good game though for MP. SP has yet to be seen so we don't know

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#24 walkingdream
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no doubt the xbox fan boys who said KZ and Metroid weren't good will be in saying this game is amazing but KZ & Metorid are c**p will probably still be a good game though for MP. SP has yet to be seen so we don't know

steviebhoy6sic6

I don't know about others but i consider MP1 one of the very best of last generation :?

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#25 steviebhoy6sic6
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[QUOTE="steviebhoy6sic6"]

no doubt the xbox fan boys who said KZ and Metroid weren't good will be in saying this game is amazing but KZ & Metorid are c**p will probably still be a good game though for MP. SP has yet to be seen so we don't know

walkingdream

I don't know about others but i consider MP1 one of the very best of last generation :?

i consider halo 1's MP one of the best last gen but i was making the point that i think halo fanboys will praise this multuplayer yet **** on KZ and metroid ( i don't know if metroid has MP) MP because it's on a different system. We have yet to see it yet so it might or might not be warrented but i would put money on people doing that
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#26 hockeyruler12
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Well it's good to see that 343 is a legit studio. I was kind of worried that it was just a few ex-Bungie guys and some newer developers. Great to see established veterans backing up the Bungie guys.

As for Halo 4, I think it will be MS's last shot at squeezing power out of the 360. I would expect maybe running on Reach's engine (it's a great engine), but with major improvements. I'm hoping for Halo 5 to be either a launch title for the next Xbox or releasing 1 year after.

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[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

what metroid got to do with it im confused

walkingdream

"Kynan Pearsonhas worked with Retro studios for 7 years and has all the Metroid Prime games on his list of credits. He also played a significant role in Retro's latest hit game Donkey Kong Country Returns."

Gah! Retro lost a bunch of talent after Prime 3 and now they're losing the co lead designer / lead level designer of Donkey Kong Country Returns? I'm happy for Halo fans and excited to see what comes of this but this still kind of sucks from a Nintendo fan's perspective.

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#28 walkingdream
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[QUOTE="walkingdream"]

[QUOTE="steviebhoy6sic6"]

no doubt the xbox fan boys who said KZ and Metroid weren't good will be in saying this game is amazing but KZ & Metorid are c**p will probably still be a good game though for MP. SP has yet to be seen so we don't know

steviebhoy6sic6

I don't know about others but i consider MP1 one of the very best of last generation :?

i consider halo 1's MP one of the best last gen but i was making the point that i think halo fanboys will praise this multuplayer yet **** on KZ and metroid ( i don't know if metroid has MP) MP because it's on a different system. We have yet to see it yet so it might or might not be warrented but i would put money on people doing that

Yeah fair enough. I actually rather enjoyed KZ2s MP initially as well but when i went back to it after a few months everybody was so good at it that i got raped :P
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[QUOTE="JordanizPro"]

Nooooo Killzone's online multiplayer sucks eggs,they need to work with some otherpeople:(

Chutebox

I read your comment then your sig and laughed. And I'm glad they're doing that. Get some fresh ideas into Halo.

And this is why I have thought that 343 in charge has a lot of potential for doing the Halo series some good. I loved the past Halos, all the way up to Reach, but when people say 343 won't be able to do what Bungie did, I don't think that should neccesarily be looked at as a bad thing.

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#30 CarnageHeart
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I think those who are impressed by this hiring of random talent are forgetting the lesson of Mistwalker. Many jrpg fans (including me) thought that given that Mistwalker was made up of a bunch of people who made some incredible, genre defining games in the past they would produce incredible, genre defining games in the future. Instead they were extremely timid designers whose games had lush visuals (and the massive budget needed to bring about lush visuals) but clung slavishly to 20 year old gameplay/game design conventions. As a result. MS eventually cut Mistwalker loose with little fanfare.

Throwing a bunch of random people together does not make a team.

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[QUOTE="eboyishere"]KZ devs.... Some one wants to be a graphic king

A 360 graphics king game is impossible.
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#32 USBxDVD
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In the end, whats Halo without Bungie?
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[QUOTE="eboyishere"]KZ devs.... Some one wants to be a graphic kingWarriorboy1990
A 360 graphics king game is impossible.

Neither is a PS3 one, to be fair.

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#34 dommeus
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[QUOTE="walkingdream"]

Link

Even though the article is old i'm pretty sure this hasn't been posted yet. Seems 343i is paying some big money to get these people into the studio. I also believe not included in this report that an Ex Kojima employee who worked on MGS was hired by 343i (however i cannot remember what his position was).

343i must have some dough sitting around...

dercoo

The dough calledM$

:P

Yeah, financial backing doesn't get much more extensive than that
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[QUOTE="Orchid87"]

At least Guerilla got Eric Boltjes (the guy that made KZ2 great and missed from KZ3 team) back :) KZ4 is in good hands!

eboyishere
Half of the kz2 staff didn't even work on kz3.... They are coming back tho

Really? Wow. That would explain quite a bit.
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#36 CarnageHeart
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[QUOTE="eboyishere"][QUOTE="Orchid87"]

At least Guerilla got Eric Boltjes (the guy that made KZ2 great and missed from KZ3 team) back :) KZ4 is in good hands!

nervmeister

Half of the kz2 staff didn't even work on kz3.... They are coming back tho

Really? Wow. That would explain quite a bit.

I hope so. I liked the new environments of KZ3 (aside from the space stationscene) and most of the vehicle sergments (aside from the spaceship flying bit) but the fact that KZ3 abandoned the feel of its predecessor really disappointed me (I liked the fact that characters in KZ2 moved like guys wearing heavy body armor and carrying big weapons and that some weapons had serious recoil).

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[QUOTE="Warriorboy1990"][QUOTE="eboyishere"]KZ devs.... Some one wants to be a graphic kingwaltefmoney

A 360 graphics king game is impossible.

Neither is a PS3 one, to be fair.

I never said it.
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#39 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="eboyishere"]KZ devs.... Some one wants to be a graphic kingWarriorboy1990
A 360 graphics king game is impossible.

even though gears 3 looks better then anything on ps3 right now including uncharted 3.

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#40 dommeus
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[QUOTE="Warriorboy1990"][QUOTE="eboyishere"]KZ devs.... Some one wants to be a graphic kingWilliamRLBaker

A 360 graphics king game is impossible.

even though gears 3 looks better then anything on ps3 right now including uncharted 3.

I think at this point it's nigh on impossible for any console game to be considered the best looking game.
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#41 AtariKidX
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Most excellent. Now all 343 needs is someone who can write a good story, and ex-employee from Bioware perhaps.

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Is "343" a first party studio for microsoft...??
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[QUOTE="Stringerboy"]

Most excellent. Now all 343 needs is someone who can write a good story, and ex-employee from Bioware perhaps.

AtariKidX

Is "343" a first party studio for microsoft...??

yes. microsoft created 343

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#43 AtariKidX
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[QUOTE="AtariKidX"][QUOTE="Stringerboy"]

Most excellent. Now all 343 needs is someone who can write a good story, and ex-employee from Bioware perhaps.

TheShadowLord07

Is "343" a first party studio for microsoft...??

yes. microsoft created 343

Those are very good news for the XBOX360......i hope the best for the Halo 4.
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#44 TheShadowLord07
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[QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]

[QUOTE="AtariKidX"] Is "343" a first party studio for microsoft...??AtariKidX

yes. microsoft created 343

Those are very good news for the XBOX360......i hope the best for the Halo 4.

theres also atleast 4 ex bungie employes working at 343. one of them being frankie o'corrnor

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#45 BigBoss154
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Gives me some hope after the train wrecks that were Halo 3 and Reach.

I hope they go the way of ODST for the campaign.

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#46 walkingdream
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Most excellent. Now all 343 needs is someone who can write a good story, and ex-employee from Bioware perhaps.

Stringerboy

I believe Karen Travis and Greg Bear might be working on the story. However i am not completely sure what Greg Bear is doing. I don't know if he is just writing the new book or working with Travis as well.

None the less Karen Travis seems to be a very intelligent woman with no social skills :lol:

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#47 -Snooze-
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It'll still be "same old Halo" though.

The series needs to evolve.

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#48 PAL360
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It'll still be "same old Halo" though.

The series needs to evolve.

-Snooze-

It´s interesting how the same old Halo formula still feels unique and fresh (untouched since Halo CE) and didnt turn like CoD/KZ/Medal of Honor/Battlefield/etc game yet :)

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#49 SecretPolice
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TBH, that sends a bit of a chill up mah spine :o :P though I'm sure 343i knows what they're doing and I'm just hoping MS now knows that Halo 4 should without question be the premiere launch title for their knew system. - My excitement for a new Halo on 360 will be only a small fraction as much comparatively.

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#50 walkingdream
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TBH, that sends a bit of a chill up mah spine :o :P though I'm sure 343i knows what they're doing and I'm just hoping MS now knows that Halo 4 should without question be the premiere launch title for their knew system. - My excitement for a new Halo on 360 will be only a small fraction as much comparatively.

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I do suspect Halo 4 will be one of the last "BIG" titles for the 360 AKA like Halo 2 for the Xbox.