Killzone PS3 Devs Aim To Silence Critics At E3

"Everyone wants their game to play look and sound perfectly when the public first get to see it. If you are working on an AAA Next Gen beast of a game or something for mobile phones you want to make a good impression on people. And if you have the baggage that we have we have to give it that extra little bit. Hopefully it will all go brilliantly and we'll shut up even some of the most ardent critics."

Killzone PS3 is going to have its work cut out for it. The high graphical expectations stemming from the e3 2005 trailer, as well as the lukewarm critical response towards the first game in the series, mean that the devs have a lot to prove. We've seen a lot of mediocre futuristic FPS games. I'm looking forward to seeing how Guerilla Games try to distinguish Killzone PS3 from the pack. I like the idea of releasing a beta, though.

http://www.games-digest.com/2007/06/killzone_ps3_de.html

i think this game is going to surprise alot of people come e3.

i think this game is going to surprise alot of people come e3.

-Renegade

It definitely will. It'll either be the critics of the game or those who actually believed the E3 05 trailer was any indication of the actual game.

I don't see why I should expect an Amazing game from such an untalented developer.

Even IF they manage to get some good graphics going, I STILL have no faith the actual game will be any good.

In the ULTRA competitive FPS genre there are some Truly talented Devs out there.... Guerilla is NOT one of them.

I don't see why I should expect an Amazing game from such an untalented developer.

Even IF they manage to get some good graphics going, I STILL have no faith the actual game will be any good.

In the ULTRA competitive FPS genre there are some Truly talented Devs out there.... Guerilla is NOT one of them.

UpSwing

how about they have increased their force by over 100 developers and the project is now funded by sony which has spent millions of dollars on production?

[QUOTE="UpSwing"]

I don't see why I should expect an Amazing game from such an untalented developer.

Even IF they manage to get some good graphics going, I STILL have no faith the actual game will be any good.

In the ULTRA competitive FPS genre there are some Truly talented Devs out there.... Guerilla is NOT one of them.

-Renegade

how about they have increased their force by over 100 developers and the project is now funded by sony which has spent millions of dollars on production?

Since when does money mean it's going to be a good game?

This is going to be amazing and everybody should not lose faith on it till they see it... Also this game has a 20 million dollaer buget ...That one of the biggest video game budgets ever....anyways guerilla hired new devs and practically a whole diffrent team, anyways i support them and i think this game is going to rock

[QUOTE="UpSwing"]

I don't see why I should expect an Amazing game from such an untalented developer.

Even IF they manage to get some good graphics going, I STILL have no faith the actual game will be any good.

In the ULTRA competitive FPS genre there are some Truly talented Devs out there.... Guerilla is NOT one of them.

-Renegade

how about they have increased their force by over 100 developers and the project is now funded by sony which has spent millions of dollars on production?

[QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="UpSwing"]

I don't see why I should expect an Amazing game from such an untalented developer.

Even IF they manage to get some good graphics going, I STILL have no faith the actual game will be any good.

In the ULTRA competitive FPS genre there are some Truly talented Devs out there.... Guerilla is NOT one of them.

KAS3Y_JAM3Z

how about they have increased their force by over 100 developers and the project is now funded by sony which has spent millions of dollars on production?

Since when does money mean it's going to be a good game?

Considering the tech demo of the engine didnt impress anyone at GDC id say they have it cut out for them. Thats also taking into account that the majority of the team is still intact from the first game and they are they ones working on number 2, i'm not overly expecting much.Zenkuso

thats all it was.. this was not the real game.

[QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="UpSwing"]

I don't see why I should expect an Amazing game from such an untalented developer.

Even IF they manage to get some good graphics going, I STILL have no faith the actual game will be any good.

In the ULTRA competitive FPS genre there are some Truly talented Devs out there.... Guerilla is NOT one of them.

pundog

how about they have increased their force by over 100 developers and the project is now funded by sony which has spent millions of dollars on production?

Look at lost planet cost 25million to make, 25million to market and it still didn't do as well as expected, budget means nothing unless you have a good team and more devs doesn't make a game better, its just makes it faster to build. Why?

Because you can only have some many leads and then everyone else gets the slave jobs to actually build the game, more devs means they can split the work load, it doesn't mean it makes the game better just makes the workloads on each leads team so much less.

[QUOTE="KAS3Y_JAM3Z"][QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="UpSwing"]

I don't see why I should expect an Amazing game from such an untalented developer.

Even IF they manage to get some good graphics going, I STILL have no faith the actual game will be any good.

In the ULTRA competitive FPS genre there are some Truly talented Devs out there.... Guerilla is NOT one of them.

Blanco98

how about they have increased their force by over 100 developers and the project is now funded by sony which has spent millions of dollars on production?

Since when does money mean it's going to be a good game?

no, actually. The team was fairly small. A lot of devs actually have talent, unlike Gurellia.

P.S. I'm pretty sure Halo 3 has a massive team with a massive budget, so in your logic, halo 3 will be the best game ever made.

I hope so the game looks sooooooooooooooo goood:DxHINDERx

Actually you don't know it looks good, because it hasn't been shown yet. On topic, I'm either going to be impressed or disappointed, but not hyped, the original was such a huge let down.

[QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="UpSwing"]

I don't see why I should expect an Amazing game from such an untalented developer.

Even IF they manage to get some good graphics going, I STILL have no faith the actual game will be any good.

In the ULTRA competitive FPS genre there are some Truly talented Devs out there.... Guerilla is NOT one of them.

pundog

how about they have increased their force by over 100 developers and the project is now funded by sony which has spent millions of dollars on production?

geow of war lacked in single player and wasnt that impressive to me at all. its just another overhyped game by the lemmings once again.

[QUOTE="pundog"][QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="UpSwing"]

I don't see why I should expect an Amazing game from such an untalented developer.

Even IF they manage to get some good graphics going, I STILL have no faith the actual game will be any good.

In the ULTRA competitive FPS genre there are some Truly talented Devs out there.... Guerilla is NOT one of them.

Zenkuso

how about they have increased their force by over 100 developers and the project is now funded by sony which has spent millions of dollars on production?

Look at lost planet cost 25million to make, 25million to market and it still didn't do as well as expected, budget means nothing unless you have a good team and more devs doesn't make a game better, its just makes it faster to build. Why?

Because you can only have some many leads and then everyone else gets the slave jobs to actually build the game, more devs means they can split the work load, it doesn't mean it makes the game better just makes the workloads on each leads team so much less.

In some rare cases, some devs have a huge team with a lot of talent.

[QUOTE="Zenkuso"][QUOTE="pundog"][QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="UpSwing"]

I don't see why I should expect an Amazing game from such an untalented developer.

Even IF they manage to get some good graphics going, I STILL have no faith the actual game will be any good.

In the ULTRA competitive FPS genre there are some Truly talented Devs out there.... Guerilla is NOT one of them.

KAS3Y_JAM3Z

how about they have increased their force by over 100 developers and the project is now funded by sony which has spent millions of dollars on production?

Look at lost planet cost 25million to make, 25million to market and it still didn't do as well as expected, budget means nothing unless you have a good team and more devs doesn't make a game better, its just makes it faster to build. Why?

Because you can only have some many leads and then everyone else gets the slave jobs to actually build the game, more devs means they can split the work load, it doesn't mean it makes the game better just makes the workloads on each leads team so much less.

In some rare cases, some devs have a huge team with a lot of talent.

name 3.

[QUOTE="pundog"][QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="UpSwing"]

I don't see why I should expect an Amazing game from such an untalented developer.

Even IF they manage to get some good graphics going, I STILL have no faith the actual game will be any good.

In the ULTRA competitive FPS genre there are some Truly talented Devs out there.... Guerilla is NOT one of them.

-Renegade

how about they have increased their force by over 100 developers and the project is now funded by sony which has spent millions of dollars on production?

geow of war lacked in single player and wasnt that impressive to me at all. its just another overhyped game by the lemmings once again.

I guess you're right and hundreds of respected pulications are wrong I guess, right? :roll:

Last time I checked GEOW had a single player...yep, I was right it totally has one.

[QUOTE="pundog"][QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="UpSwing"]

I don't see why I should expect an Amazing game from such an untalented developer.

Even IF they manage to get some good graphics going, I STILL have no faith the actual game will be any good.

In the ULTRA competitive FPS genre there are some Truly talented Devs out there.... Guerilla is NOT one of them.

-Renegade

how about they have increased their force by over 100 developers and the project is now funded by sony which has spent millions of dollars on production?

geow of war lacked in single player and wasnt that impressive to me at all. its just another overhyped game by the lemmings once again.

You got owned hard and you back peddle to fanboy comments

ftl :(

[QUOTE="pundog"][QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="UpSwing"]

I don't see why I should expect an Amazing game from such an untalented developer.

Even IF they manage to get some good graphics going, I STILL have no faith the actual game will be any good.

In the ULTRA competitive FPS genre there are some Truly talented Devs out there.... Guerilla is NOT one of them.

Zenkuso

how about they have increased their force by over 100 developers and the project is now funded by sony which has spent millions of dollars on production?

Look at lost planet cost 25million to make, 25million to market and it still didn't do as well as expected, budget means nothing unless you have a good team and more devs doesn't make a game better, its just makes it faster to build. Why?

Because you can only have some many leads and then everyone else gets the slave jobs to actually build the game, more devs means they can split the work load, it doesn't mean it makes the game better just makes the workloads on each leads team so much less.

guerrilla games has been getting better with each incarnation of the games, i exspect only good things from killzone 2.

[QUOTE="KAS3Y_JAM3Z"][QUOTE="Zenkuso"][QUOTE="pundog"][QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="UpSwing"]

I don't see why I should expect an Amazing game from such an untalented developer.

Even IF they manage to get some good graphics going, I STILL have no faith the actual game will be any good.

In the ULTRA competitive FPS genre there are some Truly talented Devs out there.... Guerilla is NOT one of them.

Zenkuso

how about they have increased their force by over 100 developers and the project is now funded by sony which has spent millions of dollars on production?

Look at lost planet cost 25million to make, 25million to market and it still didn't do as well as expected, budget means nothing unless you have a good team and more devs doesn't make a game better, its just makes it faster to build. Why?

Because you can only have some many leads and then everyone else gets the slave jobs to actually build the game, more devs means they can split the work load, it doesn't mean it makes the game better just makes the workloads on each leads team so much less.

In some rare cases, some devs have a huge team with a lot of talent.

name 3.

let me go get my list...wtf?

Dude, I was agreeing with you...

[QUOTE="KAS3Y_JAM3Z"][QUOTE="Zenkuso"][QUOTE="pundog"][QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="UpSwing"]

I don't see why I should expect an Amazing game from such an untalented developer.

Even IF they manage to get some good graphics going, I STILL have no faith the actual game will be any good.

In the ULTRA competitive FPS genre there are some Truly talented Devs out there.... Guerilla is NOT one of them.

Zenkuso

how about they have increased their force by over 100 developers and the project is now funded by sony which has spent millions of dollars on production?

Look at lost planet cost 25million to make, 25million to market and it still didn't do as well as expected, budget means nothing unless you have a good team and more devs doesn't make a game better, its just makes it faster to build. Why?

Because you can only have some many leads and then everyone else gets the slave jobs to actually build the game, more devs means they can split the work load, it doesn't mean it makes the game better just makes the workloads on each leads team so much less.

In some rare cases, some devs have a huge team with a lot of talent.

name 3.

square enix, insomniac, blizzard, hell just about any of nintendo's first party developers... theres many more but i think i made my point.

[QUOTE="Zenkuso"][QUOTE="KAS3Y_JAM3Z"][QUOTE="Zenkuso"][QUOTE="pundog"][QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="UpSwing"]

I don't see why I should expect an Amazing game from such an untalented developer.

Even IF they manage to get some good graphics going, I STILL have no faith the actual game will be any good.

In the ULTRA competitive FPS genre there are some Truly talented Devs out there.... Guerilla is NOT one of them.

KAS3Y_JAM3Z

how about they have increased their force by over 100 developers and the project is now funded by sony which has spent millions of dollars on production?

Look at lost planet cost 25million to make, 25million to market and it still didn't do as well as expected, budget means nothing unless you have a good team and more devs doesn't make a game better, its just makes it faster to build. Why?

Because you can only have some many leads and then everyone else gets the slave jobs to actually build the game, more devs means they can split the work load, it doesn't mean it makes the game better just makes the workloads on each leads team so much less.

In some rare cases, some devs have a huge team with a lot of talent.

name 3.

let me go get my list...wtf?

Dude, I was agreeing with you...

3am and bad coffee, doesn't make zen a happy programmer. Trust me i should be working on debugging this stupid database interface but i got bored an decided to come here, so sorry if i can't read straight.

[QUOTE="pundog"][QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="UpSwing"]

I don't see why I should expect an Amazing game from such an untalented developer.

Even IF they manage to get some good graphics going, I STILL have no faith the actual game will be any good.

In the ULTRA competitive FPS genre there are some Truly talented Devs out there.... Guerilla is NOT one of them.

-Renegade

how about they have increased their force by over 100 developers and the project is now funded by sony which has spent millions of dollars on production?

geow of war lacked in single player and wasnt that impressive to me at all. its just another overhyped game by the lemmings once again.

[QUOTE="Zenkuso"][QUOTE="KAS3Y_JAM3Z"][QUOTE="Zenkuso"][QUOTE="pundog"][QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="UpSwing"]

I don't see why I should expect an Amazing game from such an untalented developer.

Even IF they manage to get some good graphics going, I STILL have no faith the actual game will be any good.

In the ULTRA competitive FPS genre there are some Truly talented Devs out there.... Guerilla is NOT one of them.

-Renegade

how about they have increased their force by over 100 developers and the project is now funded by sony which has spent millions of dollars on production?

Look at lost planet cost 25million to make, 25million to market and it still didn't do as well as expected, budget means nothing unless you have a good team and more devs doesn't make a game better, its just makes it faster to build. Why?

Because you can only have some many leads and then everyone else gets the slave jobs to actually build the game, more devs means they can split the work load, it doesn't mean it makes the game better just makes the workloads on each leads team so much less.

In some rare cases, some devs have a huge team with a lot of talent.

name 3.

square enix, insomniac, blizzard, hell just about any of nintendo's first party developers... theres many more but i think i made my point.

Square enix is working on about 12 different games? not putting every dev into one title. Blizzard is running a MMORPG.

I can't wait to see this game.

The 120 dev team, $21 million budget and the lengthy dev time should equate to a great game.

[QUOTE="KAS3Y_JAM3Z"][QUOTE="Zenkuso"][QUOTE="pundog"][QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="UpSwing"]

I don't see why I should expect an Amazing game from such an untalented developer.

Even IF they manage to get some good graphics going, I STILL have no faith the actual game will be any good.

In the ULTRA competitive FPS genre there are some Truly talented Devs out there.... Guerilla is NOT one of them.

Zenkuso

how about they have increased their force by over 100 developers and the project is now funded by sony which has spent millions of dollars on production?

Look at lost planet cost 25million to make, 25million to market and it still didn't do as well as expected, budget means nothing unless you have a good team and more devs doesn't make a game better, its just makes it faster to build. Why?

Because you can only have some many leads and then everyone else gets the slave jobs to actually build the game, more devs means they can split the work load, it doesn't mean it makes the game better just makes the workloads on each leads team so much less.

In some rare cases, some devs have a huge team with a lot of talent.

[QUOTE="KAS3Y_JAM3Z"][QUOTE="Zenkuso"][QUOTE="pundog"][QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="UpSwing"]

I don't see why I should expect an Amazing game from such an untalented developer.

Even IF they manage to get some good graphics going, I STILL have no faith the actual game will be any good.

In the ULTRA competitive FPS genre there are some Truly talented Devs out there.... Guerilla is NOT one of them.

Zenkuso

how about they have increased their force by over 100 developers and the project is now funded by sony which has spent millions of dollars on production?

Look at lost planet cost 25million to make, 25million to market and it still didn't do as well as expected, budget means nothing unless you have a good team and more devs doesn't make a game better, its just makes it faster to build. Why?

Because you can only have some many leads and then everyone else gets the slave jobs to actually build the game, more devs means they can split the work load, it doesn't mean it makes the game better just makes the workloads on each leads team so much less.

In some rare cases, some devs have a huge team with a lot of talent.

name 3.

SE, don't they have over 100 people on a single project? Bungie only has 90 people, Epic is also relatively small, more people =more workforce = better game, right? guess we'll see.

I see the hate is still strong agaisnt GG

You guys obviously dont know why Killzone 1 turned out the way it did, it was a PC game originally

GG hasnt even had a chance, Killzone 3/2 w.e u wanna call it will be the game that proves they can do it or proves that they cant

to judge them on a rushed PC port to an inferior system is really unfair

R-Dot-Yung

[QUOTE="Zenkuso"][QUOTE="pundog"][QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="UpSwing"]

I don't see why I should expect an Amazing game from such an untalented developer.

Even IF they manage to get some good graphics going, I STILL have no faith the actual game will be any good.

In the ULTRA competitive FPS genre there are some Truly talented Devs out there.... Guerilla is NOT one of them.

-Renegade

how about they have increased their force by over 100 developers and the project is now funded by sony which has spent millions of dollars on production?

Look at lost planet cost 25million to make, 25million to market and it still didn't do as well as expected, budget means nothing unless you have a good team and more devs doesn't make a game better, its just makes it faster to build. Why?

Because you can only have some many leads and then everyone else gets the slave jobs to actually build the game, more devs means they can split the work load, it doesn't mean it makes the game better just makes the workloads on each leads team so much less.

guerrilla games has been getting better with each incarnation of the games, i exspect only good things from killzone 2.

I can't wait to see this game.

The 120 dev team, $21 million budget and the lengthy dev time should equate to a great game.

the-very-best

I see the hate is still strong agaisnt GG

You guys obviously dont know why Killzone 1 turned out the way it did, it was a PC game originally

GG hasnt even had a chance, Killzone 3/2 w.e u wanna call it will be the game that proves they can do it or proves that they cant

to judge them on a rushed PC port to an inferior system is really unfair

R-Dot-Yung

whats the excuse for shellshock nam?

[QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]

I see the hate is still strong agaisnt GG

You guys obviously dont know why Killzone 1 turned out the way it did, it was a PC game originally

GG hasnt even had a chance, Killzone 3/2 w.e u wanna call it will be the game that proves they can do it or proves that they cant

to judge them on a rushed PC port to an inferior system is really unfair

istreakforfood

whats the excuse for shellshock nam?

Most of the devs were complete newbies at the time. Why else was there such an improvement from Shellshocked to Killzone, and then from Killzone to KZ: Liberation? It's called gaining experience. ;)

[QUOTE="istreakforfood"][QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]

I see the hate is still strong agaisnt GG

You guys obviously dont know why Killzone 1 turned out the way it did, it was a PC game originally

GG hasnt even had a chance, Killzone 3/2 w.e u wanna call it will be the game that proves they can do it or proves that they cant

to judge them on a rushed PC port to an inferior system is really unfair

makingmusic476

whats the excuse for shellshock nam?

Most of the devs were complete newbies at the time. Why else was there such an improvement from Shellshocked to Killzone, and then from Killzone to KZ: Liberation? It's called gaining experience. ;)

Wasn't Halo originally a PC game? Mac?

[QUOTE="istreakforfood"][QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]

I see the hate is still strong agaisnt GG

You guys obviously dont know why Killzone 1 turned out the way it did, it was a PC game originally

GG hasnt even had a chance, Killzone 3/2 w.e u wanna call it will be the game that proves they can do it or proves that they cant

to judge them on a rushed PC port to an inferior system is really unfair

makingmusic476

whats the excuse for shellshock nam?

Most of the devs were complete newbies at the time. Why else was there such an improvement from Shellshocked to Killzone, and then from Killzone to KZ: Liberation? It's called gaining experience. ;)

liberation was a decent fun game, but it wasnt a fps game like the other ones. i rather wait and see how kz2 turns out.

Considering the tech demo of the engine didnt impress anyone at GDC id say they have it cut out for them. Thats also taking into account that the majority of the team is still intact from the first game and they are they ones working on number 2, i'm not overly expecting much.Zenkuso

Still, more impressive then halo 3 graphically. It just needs to prove that it will be heck of fun gameplay wise.

[QUOTE="makingmusic476"][QUOTE="istreakforfood"][QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]

I see the hate is still strong agaisnt GG

You guys obviously dont know why Killzone 1 turned out the way it did, it was a PC game originally

GG hasnt even had a chance, Killzone 3/2 w.e u wanna call it will be the game that proves they can do it or proves that they cant

to judge them on a rushed PC port to an inferior system is really unfair

ReverseCycology

whats the excuse for shellshock nam?

Most of the devs were complete newbies at the time. Why else was there such an improvement from Shellshocked to Killzone, and then from Killzone to KZ: Liberation? It's called gaining experience. ;)

Wasn't Halo originally a PC game? Mac?

Bungie has been working on games long before Halo, which would explain why the series is so good. They're veterans in the gaming industry, plus they have a tad bit more talent than the average dev team.:P

I don't see why I should expect an Amazing game from such an untalented developer.

Even IF they manage to get some good graphics going, I STILL have no faith the actual game will be any good.

In the ULTRA competitive FPS genre there are some Truly talented Devs out there.... Guerilla is NOT one of them.

UpSwing

I think even those Great Dev you speak of started somewhere......

[QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]

I see the hate is still strong agaisnt GG

You guys obviously dont know why Killzone 1 turned out the way it did, it was a PC game originally

GG hasnt even had a chance, Killzone 3/2 w.e u wanna call it will be the game that proves they can do it or proves that they cant

to judge them on a rushed PC port to an inferior system is really unfair

jg4xchamp

Do you think Halo would be good if the Xbox has the same hardware as the PS2?

[QUOTE="UpSwing"]

I don't see why I should expect an Amazing game from such an untalented developer.

Even IF they manage to get some good graphics going, I STILL have no faith the actual game will be any good.

In the ULTRA competitive FPS genre there are some Truly talented Devs out there.... Guerilla is NOT one of them.

-Renegade

how about they have increased their force by over 100 developers and the project is now funded by sony which has spent millions of dollars on production?

Sure one can always argue the first one wasn't all that. But now when you see over 100 devs, over 20 million (so I've read in ) investments. There has got to be something seriously different between the Killzones on PS2 and PS3

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]

I see the hate is still strong agaisnt GG

You guys obviously dont know why Killzone 1 turned out the way it did, it was a PC game originally

GG hasnt even had a chance, Killzone 3/2 w.e u wanna call it will be the game that proves they can do it or proves that they cant

to judge them on a rushed PC port to an inferior system is really unfair

jsnepo

Do you think Halo would be good if the Xbox has the same hardware as the PS2?