Killzone...what went wrong?

I still remember it like it was yesterday. Killzone 2, the next big thing. Big budget game. Graphics were head and shoulders above anything els. Physics felt real. Atmosphere was done rite and felt immersive. But for some reason, it just hasnt cought the attention it deserved. What went wrong in Killzone 2? Why hasnt Killzone 3 done any better? Will Killzone 4 change the tide?

The reason I ask this question was because I popped Killzone 3 in for the first time in a long time and I was reminded how good of a game this was. Multiplayer is where the game shines.

Watch this gameplay video and tell me this isnt still the best Graphical game of this generation (on consoles).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npXkuBbzQBU

This game should have sale numbers that are up their with the giant fps games like COD, Halo, and BF imo. What does Killzone 4 need to do to reach that level?

And everyone's supposed to get hyped for Killzone 4? 

Lack of identity. Resistance has the same problem

Very generic narrative and characters are very weak.  Gameplay is also very much your cemented FPS standards, doesn't do anything poorly but doesn't do a whole lot great either.

Multiplayer in KZ2 was great, KZ3 was good but lacking.  Also is restricted only to PS3 and DS3 - X360 gamepad and K+M are the weapons of choice for the shooter enthusiast crowd.

The single player story and characters dont really stand out. I think the world is there just not the story. what gives KZ its face honestly is the hellghast design since it looks cool. For me when it comes to mp KZ is second favorite fps mp first being BF.

Rico

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They need to really flesh out the lore and SP, bring back KZ2 multiplayer, and keep the controls from KZ3.

Needless to say I love KZ, my favourite shooter atm and I agree it really does deserve more.

The multiplayer in Killzone 3 is very good, right up there with the greats like Black ops 2.

KZ2 was probably among the best MP I've played this Gen it's SP was dull however, then came KZ3 tried the MP beta and didn't buy the game due to that.

Killzone 2 was awesome online. Killzone 3 just didn't have the same feel or appeal.

Rico

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dercoo

I want to find hte person who wrote him and kicked them very hard in the head. Hes proboly one of the most dumbest and anoying characters iv played in a video game.

They need to really flesh out the lore and SP, bring back KZ2 multiplayer, and keep the controls from KZ3.

Needless to say I love KZ, my favourite shooter atm and I agree it really does deserve more.

Clock-w0rk

To be honest all I want back from KZ2 is lobby since matchmaking sucks a big one and skill mixing which was pretty neat. I hated and i mean HATED spawn greanades in kz2 all it did was turn matches to giant messes sometimes. Also launchers felt much better handeled in kz3. KZ2 they were anoying as hell. Besides that I loved KZ2 and KZ3 mp but if I had to give an edge to one it would be KZ3.

KZ2 was probably among the best MP I've played this Gen it's SP was dull however, then came KZ3 tried the MP beta and didn't buy the game due to that.

Newhopes

Killzone 2's unique feel was also a bit of a detriment to that game. For starters it wasn't always satisfying to shoot because there were times where the game just felt sluggish. Also largely that game was really good in one area: The multiplayer. while I think the grinding took too long, the different cIasses were all nicely tuned, the unlockables weren't game breaking(as much as that structure I hate), and the general ebb and flow of the MP was kind of f*cking awesome. I don't know many games off the top of my head where you essentially do multiple game types in one mode, and very few games I would argue have the map design to justify that kind of multiplayer.

The 3rd game tried to latch on to more popular tropes in the genre, and it just didn't gel with how Killzone did business. It messed with the balanced and feel of the game. Gimped the MP a bit.

The solo play? It just sucked universally. Mechanically they are fine, but they are by the book corridor shooters. Visually interesting, but level design wise archaic, fairly dull, and simple. It's actually kind of a waste on what is to some extent some pretty solid enemy AI. Oh and Rico and the narrative scream like a forum gamer wrote that script.

Nothing. Go to bed Timmy

Worry less about Sony tomorrow. Wednesday is upon us. We are NOT worthy

Ummmm, the games are awesome...91 and 84 on meta, respectively. The gunplay is simply fantastic, nothing feels even close on consoles. senses_fail_06

Why are you not counting the first game.:lol:

[QUOTE="senses_fail_06"]Ummmm, the games are awesome...91 and 84 on meta, respectively. The gunplay is simply fantastic, nothing feels even close on consoles. super600

Why are you not counting the first game.:lol:

I still remember it like it was yesterday. Killzone 2, the next big thing. Big budget game. Graphics were head and shoulders above anything els. Physics felt real. Atmosphere was done rite and felt immersive. But for some reason, it just hasnt cought the attention it deserved. What went wrong in Killzone 2? Why hasnt Killzone 3 done any better? Will Killzone 4 change the tide?

The reason I ask this question was because I popped Killzone 3 in for the first time in a long time and I was reminded how good of a game this was. Multiplayer is where the game shines.

Watch this gameplay video and tell me this isnt still the best Graphical game of this generation (on consoles).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npXkuBbzQBU

This game should have sale numbers that are up their with the giant fps games like COD, Halo, and BF imo. What does Killzone 4 need to do to reach that level?

Omega-316

What went wrong...umm...nothing.....Killzone 2/3 were both critically acclaimed,sold pretty well and the multiplayer in Killzone 2 was better than anything else this gen.Just because a game does not reach Halo levels of popularity does not mean its no good.

I liked the Killzone multiplayer beta on my PS3. I don't know why people disliked it.
But I'm definitely not their target audience.

It's just to mediocre and forgettable. If it weren't a exclusive series, it wouldn't have gotten attention at all. 

Lame characters

Uninteresting story

Slightly Above average gameplay

ok Multiplayer

Only good thing about the Killzone games were the graphics that's pretty much it. All flash zero substance.

I don't like first person shooter games.

GG should make a new IP already because they are talented but Killzone's so boring and generic... At this point even if Killzone 4 were great people doesn't like to jump in so late in a series. If the first 3 games didn't do well the movoe on.... Killzone 2 sold well becaue of the hype but Killzone 3 sales were terrible for a Triple A budget game. People just doesn't want any more of this series.

Yeah, I'm not a fan of FPS but Killzone was one of the few FPS series where I had the most fun with. Its just so satisfying to kill helghast. Best body physics this gen imo. The body literaly reacts to every bullet

GG should make a new IP already because they are talented but Killzone's so boring and generic... At this point even if Killzone 4 were great people doesn't like to jump in so late in a series. If the first 3 games didn't do well the movoe on.... Killzone 2 sold well becaue of the hype but Killzone 3 sales were terrible for a Triple A budget game. People just doesn't want any more of this series.

Gue1

http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=killzone

going by VGChartz (yes, lolvgchartz, provide another source then, bla bla) Killzone 3 sales were actually pretty close of Killzone 2 sales. 2.5 million on a console alone is more than 70% of games this gen could gloat about... not bad imo

It's too generic for its own good. They have all this back story and history in the games world to play with and they squander it for a more dumbed down shooter experience. It's essentially a modern military shooter dressed up as smething else. The story, writing and characters are all terrible.

Also gameplay at times is very laggy and sluggish to try emulate a sense of weight and movement to the character, but it comes off as unresponsive.The games just don't stand out as much as they could. Graphics is all the game basically has

Oh and Rico 

jg4xchamp

All excellent points, but this is all anyone should have to write on why KZ can be bad :P

Jesus that dude is one annoying fvck 

I still remember it like it was yesterday. Killzone 2, the next big thing. Big budget game. Graphics were head and shoulders above anything els. Physics felt real. Atmosphere was done rite and felt immersive. But for some reason, it just hasnt cought the attention it deserved. What went wrong in Killzone 2? Why hasnt Killzone 3 done any better? Will Killzone 4 change the tide?

The reason I ask this question was because I popped Killzone 3 in for the first time in a long time and I was reminded how good of a game this was. Multiplayer is where the game shines.

Watch this gameplay video and tell me this isnt still the best Graphical game of this generation (on consoles).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npXkuBbzQBU

This game should have sale numbers that are up their with the giant fps games like COD, Halo, and BF imo. What does Killzone 4 need to do to reach that level?

Omega-316

They need to really flesh out the lore and SP, bring back KZ2 multiplayer, and keep the controls from KZ3.

Needless to say I love KZ, my favourite shooter atm and I agree it really does deserve more.

Clock-w0rk

Currently playing Killzone Trilogy

I'm on KZ1

- The gameplay is very slow, very cumbersome

- Controller doesn't feel good for FPS

- I'm 3/4 of the way thru KZ1 and still have nothing that resembles a plot. "General Vaughton, Captain Paladin etc" WHO ARE THE HELGAST AND WHY ARE THEY HERE. Where are we? Are we on Earth? How did the war start? Right now I'm shooting my way thru stormtroops and have no idea why. And why the hell do they all have British accents, is that supposed to make them sound more evil?

Maybe this will improve when I get to KZ2 and KZ3 but I somehow doubt it.

For me it was...uninteresting story...uninteresting characters...clunky controls. I just couldn't get into KZ2 or KZ3. A good game has to grab me and make me want to finish it. None of the Killzones did this. They're not bad games, they're just not great games.

[QUOTE="senses_fail_06"]Ummmm, the games are awesome...91 and 84 on meta, respectively. The gunplay is simply fantastic, nothing feels even close on consoles. super600

Why are you not counting the first game.:lol:

Maybe because TC didn't mention Killzone 1 in his OP?DivineSword

It got perfect dark zero'd with the controls. Neon_Noir