Kind of funny (MGS: RIsing related)

Every since it was announced as a multiplat title the so called MGS fans have been bashing the game."Its going to flop", "the game doesn't matter it is a spin off", "Kojima is not working on the plot". Well guess what Kojima wasn't really involved with MGS:PO yet people still hyped the heck out of the title (He didn't even work on the story also)If it was a PS3 or PSP exclusive they would be all over title even with Kojima's little involvement with the title.

Every since it was announced as a multiplat title the so called MGS fans have been bashing the game."Its going to flop", "the game doesn't matter it is a spin off", "Kojima is not working on the plot". Well guess what Kojima wasn't really involved with MGS:PO yet people still hyped the heck out of the title (He didn't even work on the story also)If it was a PS3 or PSP exclusive they would be all over title even with Kojima's little involvement with the title.

jasonharris48

People are bashing it in SWs only go to PS3 and 360 forums and you wont see anyone bashing it.

The irony that MGS:R sparked here in SW is rather funny.
Cows continue to bash it, while lems continue to defend it.
It used to be the complete opposite when it was MGS4-related.

It's not exclusive, so therefore it sucks. I hope it scores higher than the Kojima-made PSP title, then I can have a good laugh. But then again, PSP doesn't have quite the high standards, so it'll do well even if it is rubbish, much like PO.

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

Every since it was announced as a multiplat title the so called MGS fans have been bashing the game."Its going to flop", "the game doesn't matter it is a spin off", "Kojima is not working on the plot". Well guess what Kojima wasn't really involved with MGS:PO yet people still hyped the heck out of the title (He didn't even work on the story also)If it was a PS3 or PSP exclusive they would be all over title even with Kojima's little involvement with the title.

Kashiwaba

People are bashing it in SWs only go to PS3 and 360 forums and you wont see anyone bashing it.

at least if kojima isn't working on the plot we''l get more of a game and less of an interactive movie
i don't really give a **** about it tbh

I don't hope it flops. I'm just a doubtful because of the increasing action-oriented gameplay. It's becoming another stale action game.

It has Raiden as the player character, so it will probably be worse than MGS2.

It has Raiden as the player character, so it will probably be worse than MGS2.

swazidoughman

It has Raiden as the player character, so it will probably be worse than MGS2.

swazidoughman

[QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

It has Raiden as the player character, so it will probably be worse than MGS2.

abdu4

If even Kojima cant make Raiden interesting, I doubt anyone else who does writing for games can.

Raiden in MGS4 isn't as bad, but all he is now is a less awesome version of Grey Fox.

It's kind of funny that I don't own MGS4 and yet still managed to play the game on youtube.

Every since it was announced as a multiplat title the so called MGS fans have been bashing the game."Its going to flop", "the game doesn't matter it is a spin off", "Kojima is not working on the plot". Well guess what Kojima wasn't really involved with MGS:PO yet people still hyped the heck out of the title (He didn't even work on the story also)If it was a PS3 or PSP exclusive they would be all over title even with Kojima's little involvement with the title.

jasonharris48

How exactly do you know that Kojima wasn't involved with Portable Ops and didn't work on the story?

His Wiki says: "Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops (2006: PlayStation Portable) - writer/original concept/executive producer"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hideo_Kojima#Metal_Gear_series

And his IMDB says that he was a writer for MG: PO. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0463620/

And here's a video clip on Youtube showing the actual end credits for Portable Ops....when you reach the staff section, it lists Kojima's name first as "Original story/planning." He's also credited as "General Manager/Producer." Limited involvement, perhaps.

Besides, Portable Ops is a good game. I won't be displeased if Rising is a good game. I'm just on the fence about whether or not to buy it. As far as the hype on Portable Ops.....what can I say, it wasn't me. But I'll definitely say it was a good game. I guess the better statement would be: the MGS4 team is not working on Rising, and Hideo Kojima is only working as, in his words, a little more than a producer. Are the Portable Ops team working on Rising? That would give me confidence, but Kojima said outright that he's letting the new people work on Rising. That doesn't exactly endow me with confidence.

Wouldn't it be better to be skeptical about games being made by unproven developers?

It has Raiden as the player character, so it will probably be worse than MGS2.

swazidoughman

It's not exclusive, so therefore it sucks. I hope it scores higher than the Kojima-made PSP title, then I can have a good laugh. But then again, PSP doesn't have quite the high standards, so it'll do well even if it is rubbish, much like PO.

BioShockOwnz

[QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

It has Raiden as the player character, so it will probably be worse than MGS2.

cainetao11

Frankly, I preferred the Raiden of MGS2 to the Cyborg Raiden. That said, Cyborg Raiden is definitely the individual with the best action scenes in the entire series.

Truly, truly epic cutscenes from that character. Anyway, I'm anxious to see how the gameplay works. Are we not warranted in our lack of hype in a game that has zero total gameplay footage, either in still screenshots or in video format, and almost no details? The PSP title has an entire gameplay/plot trailer for Chrissakes. They revealed Peacewalker with a trailer, they revealed Rising with "MGS is coming to 360!" (blatant catering to system wars) and a still CGI portrait.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

It's not exclusive, so therefore it sucks. I hope it scores higher than the Kojima-made PSP title, then I can have a good laugh. But then again, PSP doesn't have quite the high standards, so it'll do well even if it is rubbish, much like PO.

Brownesque

[QUOTE="Brownesque"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

It's not exclusive, so therefore it sucks. I hope it scores higher than the Kojima-made PSP title, then I can have a good laugh. But then again, PSP doesn't have quite the high standards, so it'll do well even if it is rubbish, much like PO.

Next-Gen-Tec

It has Raiden as the player character, so it will probably be worse than MGS2.

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

Every since it was announced as a multiplat title the so called MGS fans have been bashing the game."Its going to flop", "the game doesn't matter it is a spin off", "Kojima is not working on the plot". Well guess what Kojima wasn't really involved with MGS:PO yet people still hyped the heck out of the title (He didn't even work on the story also)If it was a PS3 or PSP exclusive they would be all over title even with Kojima's little involvement with the title.

Brownesque

How exactly do you know that Kojima wasn't involved with Portable Ops and didn't work on the story?

His Wiki says: "Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops (2006: PlayStation Portable) - writer/original concept/executive producer"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hideo_Kojima#Metal_Gear_series

And his IMDB says that he was a writer for MG: PO. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0463620/

And here's a video clip on Youtube showing the actual end credits for Portable Ops....when you reach the staff section, it lists Kojima's name first as "Original story/planning." He's also credited as "General Manager/Producer." Limited involvement, perhaps.

Besides, Portable Ops is a good game. I won't be displeased if Rising is a good game. I'm just on the fence about whether or not to buy it. As far as the hype on Portable Ops.....what can I say, it wasn't me. But I'll definitely say it was a good game. I guess the better statement would be: the MGS4 team is not working on Rising, and Hideo Kojima is only working as, in his words, a little more than a producer. Are the Portable Ops team working on Rising? That would give me confidence, but Kojima said outright that he's letting the new people work on Rising. That doesn't exactly endow me with confidence.

Wouldn't it be better to be skeptical about games being made by unproven developers?

[QUOTE="Brownesque"]

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

Every since it was announced as a multiplat title the so called MGS fans have been bashing the game."Its going to flop", "the game doesn't matter it is a spin off", "Kojima is not working on the plot". Well guess what Kojima wasn't really involved with MGS:PO yet people still hyped the heck out of the title (He didn't even work on the story also)If it was a PS3 or PSP exclusive they would be all over title even with Kojima's little involvement with the title.

jasonharris48

How exactly do you know that Kojima wasn't involved with Portable Ops and didn't work on the story?

His Wiki says: "Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops (2006: PlayStation Portable) - writer/original concept/executive producer"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hideo_Kojima#Metal_Gear_series

And his IMDB says that he was a writer for MG: PO. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0463620/

And here's a video clip on Youtube showing the actual end credits for Portable Ops....when you reach the staff section, it lists Kojima's name first as "Original story/planning." He's also credited as "General Manager/Producer." Limited involvement, perhaps.

Besides, Portable Ops is a good game. I won't be displeased if Rising is a good game. I'm just on the fence about whether or not to buy it. As far as the hype on Portable Ops.....what can I say, it wasn't me. But I'll definitely say it was a good game. I guess the better statement would be: the MGS4 team is not working on Rising, and Hideo Kojima is only working as, in his words, a little more than a producer. Are the Portable Ops team working on Rising? That would give me confidence, but Kojima said outright that he's letting the new people work on Rising. That doesn't exactly endow me with confidence.

Wouldn't it be better to be skeptical about games being made by unproven developers?

[QUOTE="Brownesque"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

It's not exclusive, so therefore it sucks. I hope it scores higher than the Kojima-made PSP title, then I can have a good laugh. But then again, PSP doesn't have quite the high standards, so it'll do well even if it is rubbish, much like PO.

Next-Gen-Tec

Indeed. As you can see in my sig, some PSP titles are my most hotly anticipated.

There isn't enough known about the game to be honest. If it turns out to be mainly hack n slash then I doubt I will buy the game. While I like to see new things a total redesign of what makes MGS, MGS would make me weary of how good the game actually is.

It's not exclusive, so therefore it sucks. I hope it scores higher than the Kojima-made PSP title, then I can have a good laugh. But then again, PSP doesn't have quite the high standards, so it'll do well even if it is rubbish, much like PO.

BioShockOwnz