Kinda pissed...sick of this gens multiplayer focus ruining single player games.

Ok, I just bought Dragon Quest IX.. And it seems like a traditional Dragon Quest game...cool... so I go to IGN to watch their video review. And here they talk about how none of the party members are actually characters, there only characters that other people play in multiplayer with you. There is no actual npc's that join you. The game in itself reminds me a bit of White Knight chronicles. Which is pissing me off. Whats up with this focus on multiplayer? RPGS are supposed to offer an epic single player experience. If I wanted to play an mmo, I'd play an mmo... Devs need to stop this crap of ruining single player games by making them multiplayer.. I don't want and mmo , and I don't want monster hunter type gameplay...Why does every jrpg now all of a sudden have monster hunter influence to it? Sigh... I guess I will just stick to P3P ... at least atlus hasn't ruined persona with that crap. I mean Dragon Quest has been a SIngle player game since its inception.. I was not expecting this!! I wanted a traditional story and single player game. This freakn sucks!

I was looking forward to a new DQ game. I can't find DQ5 in stores any where and I already played through the first 4 on NES back in the day and played through DQ4 remake last year..... What happened to level5? Jenne D'arc was a killer single player game , along with DQ8, Dark Cloud and Rogue Galaxy.. what single player isnt cool anymore level 5? IF this dev doesnt' knock it off, I won't be buying their games, period. I need a single player jrpg!! Persona 5 can't get announced soon enough..

Yeah, I agree. I like my SP... well, "single" and I greatly dislike when a game forces co-op on me and my SP,specially if it's an A.I.

Yeah, I agree. I like my SP... well, "single" and I greatly dislike when a game forces co-op on me and my SP,specially if it's an A.I.

GreenGoblin2099

Multiplayer is where the money is, and frankly, I love it. It's more fun playing a game co-op than with friends. It is also fun beating other people in competitive game types.zbdyx

Multiplayer is where the money is, and frankly, I love it. It's more fun playing a game co-op than with friends. It is also fun beating other people in competitive game types.zbdyx

I bought the game thinking it was going to be like the old DQ games.. Like Dragon Warrior 1-4 that I remember playing back in the 80s or DQ7 and 8 on the PlayStation Consoles. Level 5 sucks this gen (besides Jeanne D'arc -- their last true SP game!)

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Yeah, I agree. I like my SP... well, "single" and I greatly dislike when a game forces co-op on me and my SP,specially if it's an A.I.

xXTalismanXx

The games your playing arnt single player games, there co-op games, stop playing co-op games solo if you dont like playing with ai.

Its like playing a multiplayer game then complaing you have to play with other people.

[QUOTE="xXTalismanXx"]

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

Yeah, I agree. I like my SP... well, "single" and I greatly dislike when a game forces co-op on me and my SP,specially if it's an A.I.

warmaster670

The games your playing arnt single player games, there co-op games, stop playing co-op games solo if you dont like playing with ai.

Its like playing a multiplayer game then complaing you have to play with other people.

[QUOTE="xXTalismanXx"]

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

Yeah, I agree. I like my SP... well, "single" and I greatly dislike when a game forces co-op on me and my SP,specially if it's an A.I.

warmaster670

The games your playing arnt single player games, there co-op games, stop playing co-op games solo if you dont like playing with ai.

Its like playing a multiplayer game then complaing you have to play with other people.

Oh you would be surprised how much I try to stay away from those, but in some cases is practically impossible.

As a RE fan, I HAD to try RE5, even if I knew I had to co-op... and yeah, that ruined the game for me (mostly... the game sucks anyway :P)

Is just a fad, it must be, it MUST... :cry:

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[QUOTE="xXTalismanXx"]Agree with you on that. A co-op mode should not impede on the SP experience, but instead be a bonus like other games that include the option.

GreenGoblin2099

The games your playing arnt single player games, there co-op games, stop playing co-op games solo if you dont like playing with ai.

Its like playing a multiplayer game then complaing you have to play with other people.

Oh you would be surprised how much I try to stay away from those, but in some cases is practically impossible.

As a RE fan, I HAD to try RE5, even if I knew I had to co-op... and yeah, that ruined the game for me (mostly... the game sucks anyway :P)

RE5 is so much better than the old REs its not even funny.

While there are still great single player games out there, , yep, I agree, single player feels tacked on in many cases too.

I can only play multiplayer games for so long before I get tired of them, and relying on other people to be entertained varies a lot. Plus most don't last forever unlike single player in games.

I'm still playing/replaying games from previous gens with single players that were a high point in them as well.

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[QUOTE="warmaster670"]

The games your playing arnt single player games, there co-op games, stop playing co-op games solo if you dont like playing with ai.

Its like playing a multiplayer game then complaing you have to play with other people.

warmaster670

Oh you would be surprised how much I try to stay away from those, but in some cases is practically impossible.

As a RE fan, I HAD to try RE5, even if I knew I had to co-op... and yeah, that ruined the game for me (mostly... the game sucks anyway :P)

RE5 is so much better than the old REs its not even funny.

You got it backwards, pal ;)

I know what you mean, I hope to god Reach isnt like that, where they trade the good story for good multiplayer, they did that in Halo 2 but thankfully improved the story greatly in Halo 3 along with the awesome Multiplayer.

RE5 is so much better than the old REs its not even funny.

warmaster670

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

[QUOTE="warmaster670"]

The games your playing arnt single player games, there co-op games, stop playing co-op games solo if you dont like playing with ai.

Its like playing a multiplayer game then complaing you have to play with other people.

warmaster670

Oh you would be surprised how much I try to stay away from those, but in some cases is practically impossible.

As a RE fan, I HAD to try RE5, even if I knew I had to co-op... and yeah, that ruined the game for me (mostly... the game sucks anyway :P)

RE5 is so much better than the old REs its not even funny.

No. :|

Multiplayer centric games have no long lasting legs like single player games. It seems like a lot of mainstream current generation games will not be played 10-20 years from now.

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[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

Oh you would be surprised how much I try to stay away from those, but in some cases is practically impossible.

As a RE fan, I HAD to try RE5, even if I knew I had to co-op... and yeah, that ruined the game for me (mostly... the game sucks anyway :P)

GreenGoblin2099

RE5 is so much better than the old REs its not even funny.

You got it backwards, pal ;)

Nope, played them all recently, with teh exception of REmake and CV hthe old ones arnt that great.

Nope, played them all recently, with teh exception of REmake and CV hthe old ones arnt that great.

warmaster670

So I get you like mainstream likegames more... ok, I loved RE4, but RE5 destroyed every good thing I loved about the series. I can't say I'm looking forward a next RE now.

It seems like in most multiplayer games, there are a few who always ruin the experience, at least that's been my opinion. Finding someone with similar experience and playing type is hit-and-miss.

I much prefer gaming at my own pace, going through a single player experience. I doubt that will ever go away. A multiplayer can deliver the frags, but it could never deliver a well-paced, detailed story. There are just too many variables.

I don't know if I should even keep playing DQ9.. I was having fun too, only a hour in. But then i watched that IGN review. Does anyone have the game? Is the story ok? Can you play it in SP only and still enjoy it? At least MGS Peacewalker focused on Story and didn't make you do MP..Midnightshade29

its not going to stop, this trend is going to continue and were going to get more games like COD which has less than 10 hour's of single player campaign but has a "robust" multiplayer

i also hate this trend

its not going to stop, this trend is going to continue and were going to get more games like COD which has less than 10 hour's of single player campaign but has a "robust" multiplayer

i also hate this trend

mlbslugger86

[QUOTE="zbdyx"]Multiplayer is where the money is, and frankly, I love it. It's more fun playing a game co-op than with friends. It is also fun beating other people in competitive game types.Wolfetan

I think the bigger problem is that most MP modes are simply the same as most other MP modes. I mean, how many ways can you possibly mix onslaught and CTF and Team deathmatch?

Another problem is the quality of the multiplayer. Bioshock 2 is a good example. The first game was created for a reason, it had a single player that was meant to be created the way it was. The second was just a cash in on the first and the developers of Bioshock added Multiplayer because they had no other way to actually make a truly special game.

Bioshock was made for a reason other than money, Bioshock 2 and MW2 and Halo Reach and Halo 3 and pretty much every other popular game now are made for profit. Rather than making a game because there is a story to be told, they make a story because there is a game to be sold.

I somewhat agree with you, but I think short single player games are more of a problem, though.

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[QUOTE="zbdyx"]Multiplayer is where the money is, and frankly, I love it. It's more fun playing a game co-op than with friends. It is also fun beating other people in competitive game types.zbdyx

Than get the **** over it and buy games that have great single player experiences? I know crazy theory here. The way I see it I don't care what makes the game good. Single player, multiplayer or coop. Just be a good game all things considered.

Multiplayer is where the money is, and frankly, I love it. It's more fun playing a game co-op than with friends. It is also fun beating other people in competitive game types.zbdyx

[QUOTE="zbdyx"][QUOTE="Wolfetan"] Nooooo! Stop ruining gaming. It wasnt meant to be this way. This is how gaming started, its like pollution and the earth, stop it !!!!

Wolfetan

Can multiplayer not improve a game in any way?

Well I'm guessing you never played Dragon Warrior 3, or maybe i'm just confused, are you saying DQ9 is a bad game unless you have friends to play with you?

Maybe I'm ignorant but I've seen videos and I plan on getting DQ9 and the way you hire people and make NPCs to join you looks a lot like Dragon Warrior 3, but other then that I don't know anything else about the game.

Can multiplayer not improve a game in any way?

Raymundo_Manuel

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Can multiplayer not improve a game in any way?

oldkingallant

Well, considering the TC hasn't played more than an hour I think he's just complaining about the existance of MP, and hasn't even found out if it hampers the experience at all.

Who wants to play a game that lasts only a dozen hours? Certainly not the run and gunnning, COD worshipping, grenade spamming, teabagging, mic screaming FPS fanatics out there.

Nintendo doesnt Focus on Online multiplayer so go to them if you dont like multiplayer games. i like both so i got the wii

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Yeah, I agree. I like my SP... well, "single" and I greatly dislike when a game forces co-op on me and my SP,specially if it's an A.I.

I've had some amazing single player experiences with games, but the problem is they aren't games that I'll usually keep unless they are great. Many people will just rent them because the lack of replayability. I have no qualms with games like Braid though. Cheap, albeit short, but an amazing single player experience that I still come back to. Besides, I can't sell it anyway, being a downloadable title.

[QUOTE="zbdyx"]Multiplayer is where the money is, and frankly, I love it. It's more fun playing a game co-op than with friends. It is also fun beating other people in competitive game types.oldkingallant