KINECT... "Watch the train wreck in action"

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#1 Pesci1
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Sorry if old.. but this peripheral does not deliver. It is admirable to defend your platform through the good bad times, but core xbox gamers should really throw in the towel now.

Way to butcher a beloved franchise, MS...

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/06/star-wars-kinect-hands-on-watch-the-train-wreck-in-action.ars

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1MqaPOHtoE&feature=player_embedded#at=41

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#2 James161324
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Yet it sold 10 million units

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#3 gamer-adam1
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cause of 1 game?

there has been lots of positive reviews about kinect games.

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"I played many great Kinect games at E3, such as the sublime Gunstringer and the goofy Fruit Ninja Kinect. The peripheral has a lot to offer gamers, especially when it's put in the hands of gifted developers who see the motion controls for what they are: a challenge to be met with novel mechanics"

At stopped reading at that point and went to another thread.

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#6 MrSelf-Destruct
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"I played many great Kinect games at E3, such as the sublime Gunstringer and the goofy Fruit Ninja Kinect. The peripheral has a lot to offer gamers, especially when it's put in the hands of gifted developers who see the motion controls for what they are: a challenge to be met with novel mechanics"

At stopped reading at that point and went to another thread.

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Lol. Dude's right. Kinect is good for novel mechanics. Core mechanics such as navigation, however... well... YOU NEED A NAV CONTROLLER, MS!!!
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#7 riariases
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That's the game, not Kinect itself. I love Kinect. It's a killer peripheral which has one a world record for selling so fast. Kinect itself is a genius idea and Microsoft is desperatelly trying to bring some support to it. That's why they're focusing so much on it. They want it to be the basis for Xbox and they don't want to leave the already 10 million+ users in the cold.
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#8 vashkey
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Lol, Star Wars was garbage long before they made Kinect game and of the history of Star Wars games I sersiously doubt this'll be the worst or anything close to it.
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#9 riariases
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[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

"I played many great Kinect games at E3, such as the sublime Gunstringer and the goofy Fruit Ninja Kinect. The peripheral has a lot to offer gamers, especially when it's put in the hands of gifted developers who see the motion controls for what they are: a challenge to be met with novel mechanics"

At stopped reading at that point and went to another thread.

MrSelf-Destruct

Lol. Dude's right. Kinect is good for novel mechanics. Core mechanics such as navigation, however... well... YOU NEED A NAV CONTROLLER, MS!!!

I think Microsoft should just make games where you hold the controller in your left hand only so you can use the joystick and then you use your right hand for everything else. You could still use your left hand, even with the controller in hand, put you wouldn't be able to do finger motions. Or maybe they could release something like the Wii Nunchuck to use alongside Kinect.

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#10 kuraimen
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Lems will defend this no matter what. Even if it was obvious from the start that it is an useless gimmick for gaming.
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#11 ArisShadows
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Don't blame Kinect, what George Lucas already did.
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#12 XenoNinja
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Kinect is such a fail whale, lol
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#13 hexashadow13
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10 million isn't that much. Move has sold 8.8 million, and that's also complete garbage lol.
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#14 Timdoggamer
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10 million isn't that much. Move has sold 8.8 million, and that's also complete garbage lol.hexashadow13

move sales are combining the move bundle or how many people own the move which is half of Kinect more like 5 million, and the glowball controller, so those numbers you are quoting and how you are quoting are kinda misleading. Sorry Kinect did so well, I know you were saying it would be an ultimate failure and now you are singing a different tune, a little scorned tunage.

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#15 Snakemaster9
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10 million isn't that much. Move has sold 8.8 million, and that's also complete garbage lol.hexashadow13

wow really?

I thought Move was a huge fail

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#18 Timdoggamer
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[QUOTE="Timdoggamer"]

[QUOTE="hexashadow13"]10 million isn't that much. Move has sold 8.8 million, and that's also complete garbage lol.MrSelf-Destruct

move sales are combining the move bundle or how many people own the move which is half of Kinect more like 5 million, and the glowball controller, so those numbers you are quoting and how you are quoting are kinda misleading. Sorry Kinect did so well, I know you were saying it would be an ultimate failure and now you are singing a different tune, a little scorned tunage.

How about a link? That number only represents the bundles, not stand alone controllers or eyetoys. Also, the Kinect actually sold a few million more 10, but Sony didn't spend 500 million dollars on an ad campaign.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-06-07-move-sales-top-8-8m

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#19 MrSelf-Destruct
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[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"][QUOTE="Timdoggamer"]

move sales are combining the move bundle or how many people own the move which is half of Kinect more like 5 million, and the glowball controller, so those numbers you are quoting and how you are quoting are kinda misleading. Sorry Kinect did so well, I know you were saying it would be an ultimate failure and now you are singing a different tune, a little scorned tunage.

Timdoggamer

How about a link? That number only represents the bundles, not stand alone controllers or eyetoys. Also, the Kinect actually sold a few million more 10, but Sony didn't spend 500 million dollars on an ad campaign.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-06-07-move-sales-top-8-8m

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I double checked for myself, thanks. That's why I deleted that post. ;)
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#20 Timdoggamer
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[QUOTE="Timdoggamer"]

[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"] How about a link? That number only represents the bundles, not stand alone controllers or eyetoys. Also, the Kinect actually sold a few million more 10, but Sony didn't spend 500 million dollars on an ad campaign. MrSelf-Destruct

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-06-07-move-sales-top-8-8m

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I double checked for myself, thanks. That's why I deleted that post. ;)

its ok just wanted to give you the link because you are always so quick to defend sony and bash MS, so there you go =D haha

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#21 Vari3ty
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Yet it sold 10 million units

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Because quantity equals quality... oh wait.

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#22 Vari3ty
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That's the game, not Kinect itself. I love Kinect. It's a killer peripheral which has one a world record for selling so fast. Kinect itself is a genius idea and Microsoft is desperatelly trying to bring some support to it. That's why they're focusing so much on it. They want it to be the basis for Xbox and they don't want to leave the already 10 million+ users in the cold.riariases

What about leaving the other 45 million Xbox console owners who don't have a Kinect out in the cold?

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#23 Timdoggamer
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[QUOTE="James161324"]

Yet it sold 10 million units

Vari3ty

Because quantity equals quality... oh wait.

Why cause a core gamers opinion is stronger than a casual gamers? OHHH wait.

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#24 MrSelf-Destruct
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[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"][QUOTE="Timdoggamer"]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-06-07-move-sales-top-8-8m

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Timdoggamer

I double checked for myself, thanks. That's why I deleted that post. ;)

its ok just wanted to give you the link because you are always so quick to defend sony and bash Sony, so there you go =D haha

Yup that's me. Always jumping in there to defend and bash Sony. They can't tell whether I love 'em or hate 'em. lol
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#25 tormentos
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Yet it sold 10 million units

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Sales = Quality? since when.?
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#26 coasterguy65
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Yes it must be Kinect...Lucas Arts has a long history of building one killer game after another without ever making a dud. :roll:

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#27 Timdoggamer
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[QUOTE="Timdoggamer"]

[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"] I double checked for myself, thanks. That's why I deleted that post. ;) MrSelf-Destruct

its ok just wanted to give you the link because you are always so quick to defend sony and bash Sony, so there you go =D haha

Yup that's me. Always jumping in there to defend and bash Sony. They can't tell whether I love 'em or hate 'em. lol

like the PSN debacle, I loved how you didnt think it was a big deal but all in fun, you love Sony and thats cool.

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#28 tormentos
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[QUOTE="hexashadow13"]10 million isn't that much. Move has sold 8.8 million, and that's also complete garbage lol.Timdoggamer

move sales are combining the move bundle or how many people own the move which is half of Kinect more like 5 million, and the glowball controller, so those numbers you are quoting and how you are quoting are kinda misleading. Sorry Kinect did so well, I know you were saying it would be an ultimate failure and now you are singing a different tune, a little scorned tunage.

What you are not counting is that there are millions of people who own the PS3 camera before move was even out,so buying a bundle for them was not necessary all they need it was a move controller,since you don't have any evidence of who is buying it and how many,your assumption is not quite valid.
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#29 MrSelf-Destruct
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[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"][QUOTE="Timdoggamer"]

its ok just wanted to give you the link because you are always so quick to defend sony and bash Sony, so there you go =D haha

Timdoggamer

Yup that's me. Always jumping in there to defend and bash Sony. They can't tell whether I love 'em or hate 'em. lol

like the PSN debacle, I loved how you didnt think it was a big deal but all in fun, you love Sony and thats cool.

Stay on topic. You obviously don't have a clue about me or how I feel about Sony or Microsoft, so stop acting like you do just to be annoying. ;)
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#30 Timdoggamer
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[QUOTE="Timdoggamer"]

[QUOTE="hexashadow13"]10 million isn't that much. Move has sold 8.8 million, and that's also complete garbage lol.tormentos

move sales are combining the move bundle or how many people own the move which is half of Kinect more like 5 million, and the glowball controller, so those numbers you are quoting and how you are quoting are kinda misleading. Sorry Kinect did so well, I know you were saying it would be an ultimate failure and now you are singing a different tune, a little scorned tunage.

What you are not counting is that there are millions of people who own the PS3 camera before move was even out,so buying a bundle for them was not necessary all they need it was a move controller,since you don't have any evidence of who is buying it and how many,your assumption is not quite valid.

ok im sure and you have some move owners who have four controller but its really one unit, either way, its fudged numbers and not concrete like Kinects, expect this gap to widen for sure in Kinects favor regardless and this is with Move having a 2 month headstart over Kinect. Pachter was the one that said about half or 40 percent of the number was how many actually move units count. So my point is definitely backed up, yours is quite not valid.

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#31 tormentos
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[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"][QUOTE="Timdoggamer"]

its ok just wanted to give you the link because you are always so quick to defend sony and bash Sony, so there you go =D haha

Timdoggamer

Yup that's me. Always jumping in there to defend and bash Sony. They can't tell whether I love 'em or hate 'em. lol

like the PSN debacle, I loved how you didnt think it was a big deal but all in fun, you love Sony and thats cool.

Because it was not a big deal,hackers stole ids from ever where,just recently google was hit,MS has been hit,countless sites had been hit,nothjing is 100% safe online and that includes the wii and 360.
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#32 Timdoggamer
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[QUOTE="Timdoggamer"]

[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"] Yup that's me. Always jumping in there to defend and bash Sony. They can't tell whether I love 'em or hate 'em. lolMrSelf-Destruct

like the PSN debacle, I loved how you didnt think it was a big deal but all in fun, you love Sony and thats cool.

Stay on topic. You obviously don't have a clue about me or how I feel about Sony or Microsoft, so stop acting like you do just to be annoying. ;)

no Its all good, but on topic yeah Move isnt even close to Kinect...

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#33 Timdoggamer
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[QUOTE="Timdoggamer"]

[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"] Yup that's me. Always jumping in there to defend and bash Sony. They can't tell whether I love 'em or hate 'em. loltormentos

like the PSN debacle, I loved how you didnt think it was a big deal but all in fun, you love Sony and thats cool.

Because it was not a big deal,hackers stole ids from ever where,just recently google was hit,MS has been hit,countless sites had been hit,nothjing is 100% safe online and that includes the wii and 360.

well lets stay on subject, but no MS never had that kind of mess Sony had...

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#34 KarateeeChop
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the "train wreck" has already sold 10 million and its games have been getting good reviews. kinect sports for example...7.5...as good as infamous 2 :lol:

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#35 Timdoggamer
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the "train wreck" has already sold 10 million and its games have been getting good reviews. kinect sports for example...7.5...as good as infamous 2 :lol:

KarateeeChop

im sure microsoft is dying for another one of these train wrecks to happen again...

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#36 tormentos
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ok im sure and you have some move owners who have four controller but its really one unit, either way, its fudged numbers and not concrete like Kinects, expect this gap to widen for sure in Kinects favor regardless and this is with Move having a 2 month headstart over Kinect. Pachter was the one that said about half or 40 percent of the number was how many actually move units count. So my point is definitely backed up, yours is quite not valid.Timdoggamer
No i am not sure because i don't know every single person who is buying move,and there is no way to track those kind of sales,which mean that your point is not valid,it can be that way just like be the other way around,and since i already explained to you that there a section of the user base who doesn't need to actually purchase a bundle because they already had the camera is almost impossible to know. Your point if valid by who Patcher the didn't he also predicted that the PS3 would had pass the xbox 360 by now.? The guy has been wrong on so many things that people don't really pay attention to him and most people just make jokes about him.
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#37 tormentos
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[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="Timdoggamer"]

like the PSN debacle, I loved how you didnt think it was a big deal but all in fun, you love Sony and thats cool.

Timdoggamer

Because it was not a big deal,hackers stole ids from ever where,just recently google was hit,MS has been hit,countless sites had been hit,nothjing is 100% safe online and that includes the wii and 360.

well lets stay on subject, but no MS never had that kind of mess Sony had...

Windows is the most hacked software on the planet and is not make by Sony.
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#38 Timdoggamer
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[QUOTE="Timdoggamer"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] Because it was not a big deal,hackers stole ids from ever where,just recently google was hit,MS has been hit,countless sites had been hit,nothjing is 100% safe online and that includes the wii and 360.tormentos

well lets stay on subject, but no MS never had that kind of mess Sony had...

Windows is the most hacked software on the planet and is not make by Sony.

windows is a platform. PSN is a network, this has never happened to MS, not even close, are you following?

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#39 SRTtoZ
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The kinect technology just isnt there yet...When its finally here, then I think it can really work but until then its really just an expensive eye toy.

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#40 SRTtoZ
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[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="Timdoggamer"]

well lets stay on subject, but no MS never had that kind of mess Sony had...

Timdoggamer

Windows is the most hacked software on the planet and is not make by Sony.

windows is a platform. PSN is a network, this has never happened to MS, not even close, are you following?

What?

Microsoft Network Hacked, FBI involved.

Hacking on big corporations happens ALL the time, you just never hear about it because we are on a videogame forum.

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#41 Timdoggamer
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[QUOTE="Timdoggamer"]ok im sure and you have some move owners who have four controller but its really one unit, either way, its fudged numbers and not concrete like Kinects, expect this gap to widen for sure in Kinects favor regardless and this is with Move having a 2 month headstart over Kinect. Pachter was the one that said about half or 40 percent of the number was how many actually move units count. So my point is definitely backed up, yours is quite not valid.tormentos
No i am not sure because i don't know every single person who is buying move,and there is no way to track those kind of sales,which mean that your point is not valid,it can be that way just like be the other way around,and since i already explained to you that there a section of the user base who doesn't need to actually purchase a bundle because they already had the camera is almost impossible to know. Your point if valid by who Patcher the didn't he also predicted that the PS3 would had pass the xbox 360 by now.? The guy has been wrong on so many things that people don't really pay attention to him and most people just make jokes about him.

either way you cant hide behind that 8.8 million number, its less than actual move owners, its counting the controller, either way Kinect is winning and that gap will widen, Move is nothing compared to Kinect, tell me one game made specifically designed for the MOVe that compares to the 3 million sales of Kinect Sports, or the 2 million of Dance central, come on man.... Its a massacre out there.

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#42 Heil68
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[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="Timdoggamer"]ok im sure and you have some move owners who have four controller but its really one unit, either way, its fudged numbers and not concrete like Kinects, expect this gap to widen for sure in Kinects favor regardless and this is with Move having a 2 month headstart over Kinect. Pachter was the one that said about half or 40 percent of the number was how many actually move units count. So my point is definitely backed up, yours is quite not valid.Timdoggamer

No i am not sure because i don't know every single person who is buying move,and there is no way to track those kind of sales,which mean that your point is not valid,it can be that way just like be the other way around,and since i already explained to you that there a section of the user base who doesn't need to actually purchase a bundle because they already had the camera is almost impossible to know. Your point if valid by who Patcher the didn't he also predicted that the PS3 would had pass the xbox 360 by now.? The guy has been wrong on so many things that people don't really pay attention to him and most people just make jokes about him.

either way you cant hide behind that 8.8 million number, its less than actual move owners, its counting the controller, either way Kinect is winning and that gap will widen, Move is nothing compared to Kinect, tell me one game made specifically designed for the MOVe that compares to the 3 million sales of Kinect Sports, or the 2 million of Dance central, come on man.... Its a massacre out there.

So the 360 is the new Wii? Interesting.
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#44 Giancar
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Damn...lems are asking for it so M$ give them more Kinect :D
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Thread Off.
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#46 Heil68
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[QUOTE="Giancar"]Damn...lems are asking for it so M$ give them more Kinect :D

Yea, they're touting 8 million sales, so I say go 100% Kinect, it's what the gamers want and the sales show it.
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#47 Giancar
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="Giancar"]Damn...lems are asking for it so M$ give them more Kinect :D

Yea, they're touting 8 million sales, so I say go 100% Kinect, it's what the gamers want and the sales show it.

Halo 4 with a controller pffff that thing is the past...Kinect only game! Like Fable! Please do it M$! Is what people is asking in this thread after all!
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#48 tormentos
Member since 2003 • 33793 Posts
either way you cant hide behind that 8.8 million number, its less than actual move owners, its counting the controller, either way Kinect is winning and that gap will widen, Move is nothing compared to Kinect, tell me one game made specifically designed for the MOVe that compares to the 3 million sales of Kinect Sports, or the 2 million of Dance central, come on man.... Its a massacre out there.Timdoggamer
No i am not hiding i am actually correcting your argument,widen or not is irrelevant Kinect sales had dropped like a stone in the middle of the ocean,in its first 2 month it did like 8 million then 2 million more on the rest of the months it has on the market,which show that Kinect sold to the xbox 360 user base much like a game did,is not even close to sell like the Wii did non stop for several years. Sales mean nothing Killzone 2 is a great game and did not sell as much as Halo,Uncharted 2 is higher rated than Halo and it did not sell better either,sales don't equal quality,it just show that a bigger % of your user base is more prone to buy certain things. The motion war is over regardless of who you think is winning Kinect or Move it was won by the wii.
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#49 goblaa
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Yeah, kinect's a piece of junk.

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#50 xhawk27
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Yeah, kinect's a piece of junk.

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Yeah like the Wiimote and the Move controller. :|