KInect vs Move. CAn we agree that...

...Move will likely be better than the Kinect in terms of actual use as well as being intergrated in more"hardcore" games.

It is obvious (well it seems obvious to me ) that Kinect is just too casual --this is from what IVE seen so far. Kinect in my opnion wasbetter off with more updated tech and should have been left to the next generation. And if Kinect is to be incorporated into Hardcore games, its gonna be an add-on ---like head turning or small jestures. nothing too crazy that it can actually provide the player the abiltiy to play an entire hardcore game (ex. FPS) just using kinect.

Now move. Its quite obvious that it will work. WHy is it obvious? Becausewe knows that the Wii worked so why not stick with something that works and improve on it (precision wise, etc and 3d tracking). Plus people looking for a motion control experience do not need to buy the Wii anymore (unless for reasons such as Wii's exclusives) but now they can enjoy that motion experience but on system that has better graphcs.

Im not saying that Kinect will be a flop (who knows) but the Move will most likely be able to please the hardcore audience ( atleast more than Kinect).

Again this might be too early for me to say which company will have the better outcome, but lookign at games the two projects support, I believe that MOVE will be better.

Do you guys agree?

Oh yeah and sales: it depends on marketing as well. BUt right now Im strictly talkign about the games the two will support.Which will be better.
SO DONT DISCUSS SALES.

Nope, Kinect has better hardcore games:

Nope, Kinect has better hardcore games:

DroidPhysX

That is pretty hardcore still.

No. I'm hyped for Kinectimals. How is Move going to be better for me when I'm looking forward to Kinectimals?

I can agree that both companies are trying to milk us and want the Wii's success Diviniuz

There you go! This gen is all about copy + paste when it comes to things that sell well

[QUOTE="Diviniuz"]I can agree that both companies are trying to milk us and want the Wii's success DroidPhysX

There you go! This gen is all about copy + paste when it comes to things that sell well

Technically the whole industry is based on copy+ paste as you mentioned. You can't do something fully innovative everytime. BUt rather improve on old tech.
Example: Look at the advancements in controllers. Isnt the idea of lets say another company coming out with a Controler copying?

After reading this article, Move seems to be much more superior than Kinect. http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2010/08/why-sonys-move-offers-gamers-more-than-microsofts-kinectwhy-sonys-move-offers-gamers-more-than-microsofts-kinect.ars

There was someone who I heard mention recently that games are for relaxing for many of us and motion controls may be fun sometimes they are almost never good for a relaxing experience. I really don't want anymore but if I have to choose let me be lazy and choose the one I can sit down with.

Since this is SW, I gotta say only two things:

1. I don't agree.

2. I don't really care.

Since this is SW, I gotta say only two things:

1. I don't agree.

2. I don't really care.

Ignicaeli

So if you dont care? Care to explain why ure posting in this thread :)

[QUOTE="Ignicaeli"]

Since this is SW, I gotta say only two things:

1. I don't agree.

2. I don't really care.

Ribnarak

So if you dont care? Care to explain why ure posting in this thread :)

For the post count as averybory else in SW... ain't that obvious? ;)

Or maybe I was in the mood to joke with the two most recurrent answers to this kind of thread... who knows. :D

No. I'm hyped for Kinectimals. How is Move going to be better for me when I'm looking forward to Kinectimals?

Silverbond

...Move will likely be better than the Kinect in terms of actual use as well as being intergrated in more"hardcore" games.

It is obvious (well it seems obvious to me ) that Kinect is just too casual --this is from what IVE seen so far. Kinect in my opnion wasbetter off with more updated tech and should have been left to the next generation. And if Kinect is to be incorporated into Hardcore games, its gonna be an add-on ---like head turning or small jestures. nothing too crazy that it can actually provide the player the abiltiy to play an entire hardcore game (ex. FPS) just using kinect.

Now move. Its quite obvious that it will work. WHy is it obvious? Becausewe knows that the Wii worked so why not stick with something that works and improve on it (precision wise, etc and 3d tracking). Plus people looking for a motion control experience do not need to buy the Wii anymore (unless for reasons such as Wii's exclusives) but now they can enjoy that motion experience but on system that has better graphcs.

Im not saying that Kinect will be a flop (who knows) but the Move will most likely be able to please the hardcore audience ( atleast more than Kinect).

Again this might be too early for me to say which company will have the better outcome, but lookign at games the two projects support, I believe that MOVE will be better.

Do you guys agree?

Oh yeah and sales: it depends on marketing as well. BUt right now Im strictly talkign about the games the two will support.Which will be better.
SO DONT DISCUSS SALES.

Ribnarak

...Move will likely be better than the Kinect in terms of actual use as well as being intergrated in more"hardcore" games.

It is obvious (well it seems obvious to me ) that Kinect is just too casual --this is from what IVE seen so far. Kinect in my opnion wasbetter off with more updated tech and should have been left to the next generation. And if Kinect is to be incorporated into Hardcore games, its gonna be an add-on ---like head turning or small jestures. nothing too crazy that it can actually provide the player the abiltiy to play an entire hardcore game (ex. FPS) just using kinect.

Now move. Its quite obvious that it will work. WHy is it obvious? Becausewe knows that the Wii worked so why not stick with something that works and improve on it (precision wise, etc and 3d tracking). Plus people looking for a motion control experience do not need to buy the Wii anymore (unless for reasons such as Wii's exclusives) but now they can enjoy that motion experience but on system that has better graphcs.

Im not saying that Kinect will be a flop (who knows) but the Move will most likely be able to please the hardcore audience ( atleast more than Kinect).

Again this might be too early for me to say which company will have the better outcome, but lookign at games the two projects support, I believe that MOVE will be better.

Do you guys agree?

Oh yeah and sales: it depends on marketing as well. BUt right now Im strictly talkign about the games the two will support.Which will be better.
SO DONT DISCUSS SALES.

Ribnarak

Kinect will be a better purchase as it will deliver games and also alot more and will keep growing. The tech is in its infantcy and will continue to grow, 3 years down the road when you are logging into xbox live and you have your camera in the right side of the upper portion of the screen talking to your friend and its all streamlined and you are interacting with Kinect to move around menus and everything is seemless, well thats when you might understand. The bottomline is that even if both tech were the same, MS will continue to implement in a much more innovative and aggressive way. I mean PSN cant even come out with cross talk chat. Go with the OS kings MS to move this product and implement it to make your gaming experience that much better. Kinect all the way, when you revisit this thread 3 years from now you will understand!!!!

[QUOTE="Ribnarak"]

...Move will likely be better than the Kinect in terms of actual use as well as being intergrated in more"hardcore" games.

It is obvious (well it seems obvious to me ) that Kinect is just too casual --this is from what IVE seen so far. Kinect in my opnion wasbetter off with more updated tech and should have been left to the next generation. And if Kinect is to be incorporated into Hardcore games, its gonna be an add-on ---like head turning or small jestures. nothing too crazy that it can actually provide the player the abiltiy to play an entire hardcore game (ex. FPS) just using kinect.

Now move. Its quite obvious that it will work. WHy is it obvious? Becausewe knows that the Wii worked so why not stick with something that works and improve on it (precision wise, etc and 3d tracking). Plus people looking for a motion control experience do not need to buy the Wii anymore (unless for reasons such as Wii's exclusives) but now they can enjoy that motion experience but on system that has better graphcs.

Im not saying that Kinect will be a flop (who knows) but the Move will most likely be able to please the hardcore audience ( atleast more than Kinect).

Again this might be too early for me to say which company will have the better outcome, but lookign at games the two projects support, I believe that MOVE will be better.

Do you guys agree?

Oh yeah and sales: it depends on marketing as well. BUt right now Im strictly talkign about the games the two will support.Which will be better.
SO DONT DISCUSS SALES.

ProjectNatalFan

Kinect will be a better purchase as it will deliver games and also alot more and will keep growing. The tech is in its infantcy and will continue to grow, 3 years down the road when you are logging into xbox live and you have your camera in the right side of the upper portion of the screen talking to your friend and its all streamlined and you are interacting with Kinect to move around menus and everything is seemless, well thats when you might understand. The bottomline is that even if both tech were the same, MS will continue to implement in a much more innovative and aggressive way. I mean PSN cant even come out with cross talk chat. Go with the OS kings MS to move this product and implement it to make your gaming experience that much better. Kinect all the way, when you revisit this thread 3 years from now you will understand!!!!

youre not understanding what i wrote. I said it could go both ways BUT at the momemt its definately favouring the Move. And why cant you talk to your friend using the ps eye. And moving around menu's using kinect instead of the controller is based on ones own liking. On e might want to use the controller while one might not. Doesn't make a difference.

Kinect has true innovation. Something completely new and unique. SilverChimera

Yes I think Move seems more reliable than Kinect. I was reading an article earlier today saying the exact same thing.Gau0123

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[QUOTE="Ribnarak"]

...Move will likely be better than the Kinect in terms of actual use as well as being intergrated in more"hardcore" games.

It is obvious (well it seems obvious to me ) that Kinect is just too casual --this is from what IVE seen so far. Kinect in my opnion wasbetter off with more updated tech and should have been left to the next generation. And if Kinect is to be incorporated into Hardcore games, its gonna be an add-on ---like head turning or small jestures. nothing too crazy that it can actually provide the player the abiltiy to play an entire hardcore game (ex. FPS) just using kinect.

Now move. Its quite obvious that it will work. WHy is it obvious? Becausewe knows that the Wii worked so why not stick with something that works and improve on it (precision wise, etc and 3d tracking). Plus people looking for a motion control experience do not need to buy the Wii anymore (unless for reasons such as Wii's exclusives) but now they can enjoy that motion experience but on system that has better graphcs.

Im not saying that Kinect will be a flop (who knows) but the Move will most likely be able to please the hardcore audience ( atleast more than Kinect).

Again this might be too early for me to say which company will have the better outcome, but lookign at games the two projects support, I believe that MOVE will be better.

Do you guys agree?

Oh yeah and sales: it depends on marketing as well. BUt right now Im strictly talkign about the games the two will support.Which will be better.
SO DONT DISCUSS SALES.

Ribnarak

Kinect will be a better purchase as it will deliver games and also alot more and will keep growing. The tech is in its infantcy and will continue to grow, 3 years down the road when you are logging into xbox live and you have your camera in the right side of the upper portion of the screen talking to your friend and its all streamlined and you are interacting with Kinect to move around menus and everything is seemless, well thats when you might understand. The bottomline is that even if both tech were the same, MS will continue to implement in a much more innovative and aggressive way. I mean PSN cant even come out with cross talk chat. Go with the OS kings MS to move this product and implement it to make your gaming experience that much better. Kinect all the way, when you revisit this thread 3 years from now you will understand!!!!

youre not understanding what i wrote. I said it could go both ways BUT at the momemt its definately favouring the Move. And why cant you talk to your friend using the ps eye. And moving around menu's using kinect instead of the controller is based on ones own liking. On e might want to use the controller while one might not. Doesn't make a difference.

well one might like to use the controller, but with Kinect you can do both and on the PS3 you can ONLY use the controller. Also, you can talk to your friend using PS EYE, but I doubt they will implement it before Kinect does, and of course it will be inferior and a copycat. You are dealing with MS who KNOWS how to do these things, just ask yourself one thing, does PS3 have cross talk yet? Its comical, just get ready for Kinect to be built upon and built upon again and again, where Move trys to keep up just like PSN Plus compared to Move. Its over baby and MS knows it, thats WHY they are so behind Kinect, and then windows 8

[QUOTE="Gau0123"]Yes I think Move seems more reliable than Kinect. I was reading an article earlier today saying the exact same thing.caseypayne69

being uninformed is fail, read up on it my friend, the lag is unnoticable when you play.

Kinect will sell more, that's for sure, since it appeals to Families. If you haven't seen the Wii's recent sales, its a heck of a lot higher than 360 and PS3 combined.

Neither will probably be the best choice for hardcore games but I think Move will be more accurate and a better choice than Natal for hardcore games.

If Move in any way outdoes Kinect MS can simply add another peripheral like a dongle or the controller into the game. I wouldn't be surprised if we see that happen in the more hardcore games down the road. Controller and Kinect. More realisticlally we are probably looking at replica guns, wands, lightsabres, ect for in hand use with certain games. The fact that MS took out a patent for the future use of Sign Language recognition with Kinect speaks volumes of what it will be capable of next gen when a more powerful, smaller and cheaper CPU can fit into Kinect as well as a higher resolution to allow for said recognition. It is highly likely that Kinect will run circles around Wii and Move in 2-3 years which is why I don't want to pay $150 for a retail Beta Test Kit now when Kinect 2 will be where it's at.

Plus Kinect far outweighs Move due to the fact that I see Kinect being integrated into PC users Windows Media Networks. Something Move will never do.

PS, I have no real interest in either one at the moment.

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

Nope, Kinect has better hardcore games:

Young_Charter

Just for the sake of fun.

[QUOTE="Gau0123"]Yes I think Move seems more reliable than Kinect. I was reading an article earlier today saying the exact same thing.caseypayne69

Yeah thats why i think they shouldve released kinect next gen with more powerful hardware to support or minimize this lag.

[QUOTE="Ribnarak"]

[QUOTE="ProjectNatalFan"]

Kinect will be a better purchase as it will deliver games and also alot more and will keep growing. The tech is in its infantcy and will continue to grow, 3 years down the road when you are logging into xbox live and you have your camera in the right side of the upper portion of the screen talking to your friend and its all streamlined and you are interacting with Kinect to move around menus and everything is seemless, well thats when you might understand. The bottomline is that even if both tech were the same, MS will continue to implement in a much more innovative and aggressive way. I mean PSN cant even come out with cross talk chat. Go with the OS kings MS to move this product and implement it to make your gaming experience that much better. Kinect all the way, when you revisit this thread 3 years from now you will understand!!!!

ProjectNatalFan

youre not understanding what i wrote. I said it could go both ways BUT at the momemt its definately favouring the Move. And why cant you talk to your friend using the ps eye. And moving around menu's using kinect instead of the controller is based on ones own liking. On e might want to use the controller while one might not. Doesn't make a difference.

well one might like to use the controller, but with Kinect you can do both and on the PS3 you can ONLY use the controller. Also, you can talk to your friend using PS EYE, but I doubt they will implement it before Kinect does, and of course it will be inferior and a copycat. You are dealing with MS who KNOWS how to do these things, just ask yourself one thing, does PS3 have cross talk yet? Its comical, just get ready for Kinect to be built upon and built upon again and again, where Move trys to keep up just like PSN Plus compared to Move. Its over baby and MS knows it, thats WHY they are so behind Kinect, and then windows 8

Everything you've just said is based on assumption. You're talkign about a huge company thats been involved in gaming for along time (SONY) they too can pull off greatthings. Forexample i can say the opposite of what you've just said. For one, what i find "comical" is that you have to PAY to play online with you're friends--now thats a whole new discussion.

But now as i said. READ the original post that i made. Were talking as of now based on what we've seen so far. I think you can agree that you would rather play KZ3 or SOCOM with move rather than idunno---insert any kinect game weve seen so far.

I can agree that both companies are trying to milk us and want the Wii's success Diviniuz

I will agree that they both look equally terrible. millerlight89

...Move will likely be better than the Kinect in terms of actual use as well as being intergrated in more"hardcore" games.

It is obvious (well it seems obvious to me ) that Kinect is just too casual --this is from what IVE seen so far. Kinect in my opnion wasbetter off with more updated tech and should have been left to the next generation. And if Kinect is to be incorporated into Hardcore games, its gonna be an add-on ---like head turning or small jestures. nothing too crazy that it can actually provide the player the abiltiy to play an entire hardcore game (ex. FPS) just using kinect.

Now move. Its quite obvious that it will work. WHy is it obvious? Becausewe knows that the Wii worked so why not stick with something that works and improve on it (precision wise, etc and 3d tracking). Plus people looking for a motion control experience do not need to buy the Wii anymore (unless for reasons such as Wii's exclusives) but now they can enjoy that motion experience but on system that has better graphcs.

Im not saying that Kinect will be a flop (who knows) but the Move will most likely be able to please the hardcore audience ( atleast more than Kinect).

Again this might be too early for me to say which company will have the better outcome, but lookign at games the two projects support, I believe that MOVE will be better.

Do you guys agree?

Oh yeah and sales: it depends on marketing as well. BUt right now Im strictly talkign about the games the two will support.Which will be better.
SO DONT DISCUSS SALES.

Ribnarak

Since Kinect can also be used outside of gaming and will be applied to PCs too, how could Move be better? Did I missed something or are you just joking here?

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

Nope, Kinect has better hardcore games:

Ribnarak

That is pretty hardcore still.

Really? You both meant as hardcore as these? Wow, really impressive and so hardcore!!!!

For conventional games Move will be better but for NONconventional games such as dancing, exercise, pet sims or creepy boy sims, boxing, tennis and game show type games Kinect should be better than Move.

Without a doubt. I still however find Kinect to be the more intriguing as well as advanced technology. I wouldn't personally recommend getting either though. I feel that while Move may support several hardcore titles that they will still be played better with a traditional controller.

...Move will likely be better than the Kinect in terms of actual use as well as being intergrated in more"hardcore" games.

It is obvious (well it seems obvious to me ) that Kinect is just too casual --this is from what IVE seen so far. Kinect in my opnion wasbetter off with more updated tech and should have been left to the next generation. And if Kinect is to be incorporated into Hardcore games, its gonna be an add-on ---like head turning or small jestures. nothing too crazy that it can actually provide the player the abiltiy to play an entire hardcore game (ex. FPS) just using kinect.

Now move. Its quite obvious that it will work. WHy is it obvious? Becausewe knows that the Wii worked so why not stick with something that works and improve on it (precision wise, etc and 3d tracking). Plus people looking for a motion control experience do not need to buy the Wii anymore (unless for reasons such as Wii's exclusives) but now they can enjoy that motion experience but on system that has better graphcs.

Im not saying that Kinect will be a flop (who knows) but the Move will most likely be able to please the hardcore audience ( atleast more than Kinect).

Again this might be too early for me to say which company will have the better outcome, but lookign at games the two projects support, I believe that MOVE will be better.

Do you guys agree?

Oh yeah and sales: it depends on marketing as well. BUt right now Im strictly talkign about the games the two will support.Which will be better.
SO DONT DISCUSS SALES.

Ribnarak

Also, to this day, I still don't understanding people saying Move has hardcore games. Could you or anyone show me "A SINGLE HARDCORE" Move game which can only controlled/played with the MOVE ONLY? Let me know if someone finds one or wake me up if Sony announces one because all I've seem have been casual games for Move only.

[QUOTE="Ribnarak"]

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

Nope, Kinect has better hardcore games:

TheXFiles88

That is pretty hardcore still.

Really? You both meant as hardcore as these? Wow, really impressive and so hardcore!!!!

Sony fanboys are so desperate.

No, I think we mean this.

[QUOTE="Ribnarak"]

...Move will likely be better than the Kinect in terms of actual use as well as being intergrated in more"hardcore" games.

It is obvious (well it seems obvious to me ) that Kinect is just too casual --this is from what IVE seen so far. Kinect in my opnion wasbetter off with more updated tech and should have been left to the next generation. And if Kinect is to be incorporated into Hardcore games, its gonna be an add-on ---like head turning or small jestures. nothing too crazy that it can actually provide the player the abiltiy to play an entire hardcore game (ex. FPS) just using kinect.

Now move. Its quite obvious that it will work. WHy is it obvious? Becausewe knows that the Wii worked so why not stick with something that works and improve on it (precision wise, etc and 3d tracking). Plus people looking for a motion control experience do not need to buy the Wii anymore (unless for reasons such as Wii's exclusives) but now they can enjoy that motion experience but on system that has better graphcs.

Im not saying that Kinect will be a flop (who knows) but the Move will most likely be able to please the hardcore audience ( atleast more than Kinect).

Again this might be too early for me to say which company will have the better outcome, but lookign at games the two projects support, I believe that MOVE will be better.

Do you guys agree?

Oh yeah and sales: it depends on marketing as well. BUt right now Im strictly talkign about the games the two will support.Which will be better.
SO DONT DISCUSS SALES.

TheXFiles88

Also, to this day, I still don't understanding people saying Move has hardcore games. Could you or anyone show me "A SINGLE HARDCORE" Move game which can only controlled/played with the MOVE ONLY? Let me know if someone finds one or wake me up if Sony announces one because all I've seem have been casual games for Move only.

Does kinect have hardcore games that uses it exclusively as well? Not only is that a no, kinect isnt even integrated into any 'core' games even as a side control scheme.

"Heroes on the Move" is a Move-only game.