Kojima: MGS 4 port for 360 probably not possible as its PS3 optimized

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#1 Miss_Wacy
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http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=225467

should silence some fanboys as some still claim its commin to 360, but not as much as they used too, wouldnt care if it did go to 360 done it once on ps3 and will again soon :D

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watch the damage control
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#3 PBSnipes
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While these MGS 4 to 360 shenanigans are getting out of hand, saying it was optimized for the PS3 doesn't mean much. It would certainly make MGS4 harder to port, but not impossible. Hell didn't Sony argue it would be better for developers to start on the PS3 and then port to 360?
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#5 HuusAsking
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http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=225467

should silence some fanboys as some still claim its commin to 360, but not as much as they used too, wouldnt care if it did go to 360 done it once on ps3 and will again soon :D

Miss_Wacy

Hey, if FF13 can be ported to the 360, few games can't, I would think.

Still, you can shut the lemmings up by saying Sony sponsored the game (along with Apple to a lesser extent). If they don't believe that, tell them about the product placement.

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#6 mixedplanet
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dont care, already played it on PS3 once, couldnt finish it the second time, got really boring.
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#7 che5ter666
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'Probably not' has a whole different meaning than 'certainly not'. So at this moment in time, Kojima hasn't said that it won't come to the 360, and the future is 'probable'.

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#8 -DrRobotnik-
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I doubt Kojima has even tried to port it to the 360. And of course it can be done on the 360. The real question is how much will they have to change to get it working? Anyway, im not holding my breath. MGS4 has sold great on the PS3, and most people who want it have bought it already.
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#9 M337ING
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Sometimes I even feel like it should be on a PC so that people don't ask me about hardware and platforms," he said.

So, a PC port will be more likely than a 360 port, thats a first. :lol:

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#10 Ontain
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While these MGS 4 to 360 shenanigans are getting out of hand, saying it was optimized for the PS3 doesn't mean much. It would certainly make MGS4 harder to port, but not impossible. Hell didn't Sony argue it would be better for developers to start on the PS3 and then port to 360?PBSnipes
yes they did. i find that rather humorous too.
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#11 onewiththegame
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no port is good, they will build the game from the ground up to work with the 360

like bioshock for the ps3

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dont care, already played it on PS3 once, couldnt finish it the second time, got really boring.mixedplanet

The 2nd run is always boring. So......what are you really saying???

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#13 Miss_Wacy
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[QUOTE="mixedplanet"]dont care, already played it on PS3 once, couldnt finish it the second time, got really boring.Vectah_Sigma

The 2nd run is always boring. So......what are you really saying???

a true point

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[QUOTE="mixedplanet"]dont care, already played it on PS3 once, couldnt finish it the second time, got really boring.Vectah_Sigma

The 2nd run is always boring. So......what are you really saying???

I played Fable 5 times over, Halo trilogy 4 times over, Gears of War 4 times over, Splinter Cell 3 times over, God of War 1&2 3 times over, RE4 2 tiems over, my point being MGS4 got boring really fast.

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#15 Vectah_Sigma
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'Probably not' has a whole different meaning than 'certainly not'. So at this moment in time, Kojima hasn't said that it won't come to the 360, and the future is 'probable'.

che5ter666

You can try to twist his words all you want, but the fact still remains. MGS4 will not be going to the 360.

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#16 AtrumRegina
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That means they have to do it from scratch.
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Like FF13, riiiight...
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#19 ProductNumber49
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Why would it come to 360 if it had Ps3 advertisements in the game

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#20 xscrapzx
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I'm so tired of hearing about this PS3 optimized crap. If they really wanted to they could port it, even if it had to go on multiple cds. They just throw that crap out there.
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#21 Vectah_Sigma
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[QUOTE="Vectah_Sigma"]

[QUOTE="mixedplanet"]dont care, already played it on PS3 once, couldnt finish it the second time, got really boring.mixedplanet

The 2nd run is always boring. So......what are you really saying???

I played Fable 5 times over, Halo trilogy 4 times over, Gears of War 4 times over, Splinter Cell 3 times over, God of War 1&2 3 times over, RE4 2 tiems over, my point being MGS4 got boring really fast.

For most reason, I see nothing but MGS hate in your post. Makes it hard to believe anything about it.

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#22 xscrapzx
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Why would it come to 360 if it had Ps3 advertisements in the game

ProductNumber49

Obviously if they were actually going to port it they would take care of that.

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#23 Ganados0
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Konami must be kicking themselves over this.
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[QUOTE="mixedplanet"][QUOTE="Vectah_Sigma"]

[QUOTE="mixedplanet"]dont care, already played it on PS3 once, couldnt finish it the second time, got really boring.Vectah_Sigma

The 2nd run is always boring. So......what are you really saying???

I played Fable 5 times over, Halo trilogy 4 times over, Gears of War 4 times over, Splinter Cell 3 times over, God of War 1&2 3 times over, RE4 2 tiems over, my point being MGS4 got boring really fast.

For most reason, I see nothing but MGS hate in your post. Makes it hard to believe anything about it.

Why is hard to believe that the game actually bored him and it didn't give him the same expeirence that you got from it?

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[QUOTE="che5ter666"]

'Probably not' has a whole different meaning than 'certainly not'. So at this moment in time, Kojima hasn't said that it won't come to the 360, and the future is 'probable'.

Vectah_Sigma

You can try to twist his words all you want, but the fact still remains. MGS4 will not be going to the 360.

Thats what Sony fanboys said about FF13. :roll:

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#26 mixedplanet
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[QUOTE="mixedplanet"][QUOTE="Vectah_Sigma"]

[QUOTE="mixedplanet"]dont care, already played it on PS3 once, couldnt finish it the second time, got really boring.Vectah_Sigma

The 2nd run is always boring. So......what are you really saying???

I played Fable 5 times over, Halo trilogy 4 times over, Gears of War 4 times over, Splinter Cell 3 times over, God of War 1&2 3 times over, RE4 2 tiems over, my point being MGS4 got boring really fast.

For most reason, I see nothing but MGS hate in your post. Makes it hard to believe anything about it.

MGS4 was one of the best games i ever played... but it got boring really fast.

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[QUOTE="Vectah_Sigma"]

[QUOTE="mixedplanet"]dont care, already played it on PS3 once, couldnt finish it the second time, got really boring.mixedplanet

The 2nd run is always boring. So......what are you really saying???

I played Fable 5 times over, Halo trilogy 4 times over, Gears of War 4 times over, Splinter Cell 3 times over, God of War 1&2 3 times over, RE4 2 tiems over, my point being MGS4 got boring really fast.

All the games above have been more than 2 months in the market.

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Probably..interesting choice of words.
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#29 mixedplanet
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[QUOTE="mixedplanet"][QUOTE="Vectah_Sigma"]

[QUOTE="mixedplanet"]dont care, already played it on PS3 once, couldnt finish it the second time, got really boring.blitzcloud

The 2nd run is always boring. So......what are you really saying???

I played Fable 5 times over, Halo trilogy 4 times over, Gears of War 4 times over, Splinter Cell 3 times over, God of War 1&2 3 times over, RE4 2 tiems over, my point being MGS4 got boring really fast.

All the games above have been more than 2 months in the market.

i played them that many times over within 2 months.

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couldnt care less, already played this game. pure load of trash
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#31 kingdre
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So it's not completely impossible, just probably impossible. There's still hope.

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#32 che5ter666
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TLHBO!!!!

I'd love to see in your eyes how I qualify as a Lemming? I'm not bashing MGS4, I have it, it's probably the best game I've played. All I'm just saying it happened with FF13, whats to stop it coming over?

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[QUOTE="Vectah_Sigma"][QUOTE="mixedplanet"][QUOTE="Vectah_Sigma"]

[QUOTE="mixedplanet"]dont care, already played it on PS3 once, couldnt finish it the second time, got really boring.xscrapzx

The 2nd run is always boring. So......what are you really saying???

I played Fable 5 times over, Halo trilogy 4 times over, Gears of War 4 times over, Splinter Cell 3 times over, God of War 1&2 3 times over, RE4 2 tiems over, my point being MGS4 got boring really fast.

For most reason, I see nothing but MGS hate in your post. Makes it hard to believe anything about it.

Why is hard to believe that the game actually bored him and it didn't give him the same expeirence that you got from it?

What makes it hard to believe is that he saids that he finished all of those games 2 + times and none of them got boring? It has nothing to do with MGS4

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#34 Theverydeepend
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Anyone who is a 360 fanboy will vote for doom 3 just because of ps3 game exclusive. However I am a PC gamer, and I am giving my opinion. Doom III is no doubt an amazing graphical achievement at the time. I have played and beaten Doom 3, however have not beaten mgs4. I dont even own a console. However I have played MGS4 at my friends house, I can tell that MGS4 looks superior to Doom 3 graphics. I am sorry, but its the truth.

You need to have physcially played both games than look at screenshots to be able to vote. You can't judge it by voting just by screenshots. MGS4 is superior graphics. Dont believe me? Ignore Screenshots and go play them right now. You will see a difference instantly.

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#35 Vectah_Sigma
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[QUOTE="Vectah_Sigma"][QUOTE="che5ter666"]

'Probably not' has a whole different meaning than 'certainly not'. So at this moment in time, Kojima hasn't said that it won't come to the 360, and the future is 'probable'.

che5ter666

You can try to twist his words all you want, but the fact still remains. MGS4 will not be going to the 360.

Thats what Sony fanboys said about FF13. :roll:

We are talking about MGS4, not FF13, SO........The fact still remains. MGS4 is not going to the 360. Get over it.

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#36 che5ter666
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Anyone who is a 360 fanboy will vote for doom 3 just because of ps3 game exclusive. However I am a PC gamer, and I am giving my opinion. Doom III is no doubt an amazing graphical achievement at the time. I have played and beaten Doom 3, however have not beaten mgs4. I dont even own a console. However I have played MGS4 at my friends house, I can tell that MGS4 looks superior to Doom 3 graphics. I am sorry, but its the truth.

You need to have physcially played both games than look at screenshots to be able to vote. You can't judge it by voting just by screenshots. MGS4 is superior graphics. Dont believe me? Ignore Screenshots and go play them right now. You will see a difference instantly.

Theverydeepend

I think it's the next thread down you want mate.

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I'd love to see in your eyes how I qualify as a Lemming? I'm not bashing MGS4, I have it, it's probably the best game I've played. All I'm just saying it happened with FF13, whats to stop it coming over?

che5ter666

By using FF13 as an example, you're blowing things a bit out of context. For instance, FF13 didn't have nearly as many obstacles against it being ported as MGS4 did. Hell, the White Engine (or Crystal Tools) was already multiplat by the time it actually happened.
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[QUOTE="che5ter666"][QUOTE="Vectah_Sigma"][QUOTE="che5ter666"]

'Probably not' has a whole different meaning than 'certainly not'. So at this moment in time, Kojima hasn't said that it won't come to the 360, and the future is 'probable'.

Vectah_Sigma

You can try to twist his words all you want, but the fact still remains. MGS4 will not be going to the 360.

Thats what Sony fanboys said about FF13. :roll:

We are talking about MGS4, not FF13, SO........The fact still remains. MGS4 is not going to the 360. Get over it.

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[QUOTE="che5ter666"][QUOTE="Vectah_Sigma"][QUOTE="che5ter666"]

'Probably not' has a whole different meaning than 'certainly not'. So at this moment in time, Kojima hasn't said that it won't come to the 360, and the future is 'probable'.

Vectah_Sigma

You can try to twist his words all you want, but the fact still remains. MGS4 will not be going to the 360.

Thats what Sony fanboys said about FF13. :roll:

We are talking about MGS4, not FF13, SO........The fact still remains. MGS4 is not going to the 360. Get over it.

SO........The fact still remains. It's not fact. It's all speculation, it's not official until it's official.

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[QUOTE="Vectah_Sigma"][QUOTE="che5ter666"][QUOTE="Vectah_Sigma"][QUOTE="che5ter666"]

'Probably not' has a whole different meaning than 'certainly not'. So at this moment in time, Kojima hasn't said that it won't come to the 360, and the future is 'probable'.

che5ter666

You can try to twist his words all you want, but the fact still remains. MGS4 will not be going to the 360.

Thats what Sony fanboys said about FF13. :roll:

We are talking about MGS4, not FF13, SO........The fact still remains. MGS4 is not going to the 360. Get over it.

SO........The fact still remains. It's not fact. It's all speculation, it's not official until it's official.

I hear there are Sony products mentioned by name or recognizable by appearance in the game. This smacks of a sponsorship, which would certainly include an exclusivity clause. Wouldn't this be official enough?
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[QUOTE="che5ter666"][QUOTE="Vectah_Sigma"][QUOTE="che5ter666"][QUOTE="Vectah_Sigma"][QUOTE="che5ter666"]

'Probably not' has a whole different meaning than 'certainly not'. So at this moment in time, Kojima hasn't said that it won't come to the 360, and the future is 'probable'.

HuusAsking

You can try to twist his words all you want, but the fact still remains. MGS4 will not be going to the 360.

Thats what Sony fanboys said about FF13. :roll:

We are talking about MGS4, not FF13, SO........The fact still remains. MGS4 is not going to the 360. Get over it.

SO........The fact still remains. It's not fact. It's all speculation, it's not official until it's official.

I hear there are Sony products mentioned by name or recognizable by appearance in the game. This smacks of a sponsorship, which would certainly include an exclusivity clause. Wouldn't this be official enough?

Match point. Game over.

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[QUOTE="che5ter666"][QUOTE="Vectah_Sigma"][QUOTE="che5ter666"][QUOTE="Vectah_Sigma"][QUOTE="che5ter666"]

'Probably not' has a whole different meaning than 'certainly not'. So at this moment in time, Kojima hasn't said that it won't come to the 360, and the future is 'probable'.

HuusAsking

You can try to twist his words all you want, but the fact still remains. MGS4 will not be going to the 360.

Thats what Sony fanboys said about FF13. :roll:

We are talking about MGS4, not FF13, SO........The fact still remains. MGS4 is not going to the 360. Get over it.

SO........The fact still remains. It's not fact. It's all speculation, it's not official until it's official.

I hear there are Sony products mentioned by name or recognizable by appearance in the game. This smacks of a sponsorship, which would certainly include an exclusivity clause. Wouldn't this be official enough?

Yeah, there are mentions of such things, which probably would be a problem. But, 'IF' it were to be released on 360 i'm sure they'll find a way round it.

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it probably could be ported, but it would take a while, and probably wouldn't be as good
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it probably could be ported, but it would take a while, and probably wouldn't be as goodfluffers623
That's why I don't see MS willing to try it. They'd probably see it as a waste of time and money.
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[QUOTE="Vectah_Sigma"][QUOTE="che5ter666"][QUOTE="Vectah_Sigma"][QUOTE="che5ter666"]

'Probably not' has a whole different meaning than 'certainly not'. So at this moment in time, Kojima hasn't said that it won't come to the 360, and the future is 'probable'.

che5ter666

You can try to twist his words all you want, but the fact still remains. MGS4 will not be going to the 360.

Thats what Sony fanboys said about FF13. :roll:

We are talking about MGS4, not FF13, SO........The fact still remains. MGS4 is not going to the 360. Get over it.

SO........The fact still remains. It's not fact. It's all speculation, it's not official until it's official.

Pressed on MGS4's exclusivity and the possibility of an Xbox 360 port, Kojima reiterated that the PS3 had been chosen because he believed that the series' success had been entwined with PlayStation's, and admitted that "because MGS4 was optimised aka built for the PS3 it is probably not possible".

If you read the whole article, you can feel his frustration, but he's not going to flat out and say, "no, its not going to the 360. I wish people would stop asking me his", but instead, he took the publicity correct approach.

A "no" answer doesnt always have to be in black and white, its only in black and white when you are looking for an answer.

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Pressed on MGS4's exclusivity and the possibility of an Xbox 360 port, Kojima reiterated that the PS3 had been chosen because he believed that the series' success had been entwined with PlayStation's, and admitted that "because MGS4 was optimised aka built for the PS3 it is probably not possible".

If you read the whole article, you can feel his frustration, but he's not going to flat out and say, "no, its not going to the 360. I wish people would stop asking me his", but instead, he took the publicity correct approach.

A "no" answer doesnt always have to be in black and white, its only in black and white when you are looking for an answer.

Vectah_Sigma

No offense, but wouldn't the publicly correct thing would be to come clean and say something like, "Sony sponsored the development of this game (which is why their products are in the game) and required exclusivity in exchange for this sponsorship. It is not going to be ported to the 360 because of this agreement, so stop asking. End of discussion."

IOW, end the speculation and let the whole issue be put to bed. It'll relieve a whole lot of anxiety, to say the least.

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#47 II_Seraphim_II
Member since 2007 • 20534 Posts
[QUOTE="Vectah_Sigma"][QUOTE="che5ter666"]

'Probably not' has a whole different meaning than 'certainly not'. So at this moment in time, Kojima hasn't said that it won't come to the 360, and the future is 'probable'.

che5ter666

You can try to twist his words all you want, but the fact still remains. MGS4 will not be going to the 360.

Thats what Sony fanboys said about FF13. :roll:

fanboys vs Dev...big difference....

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#48 EVOLV3
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wow, some lems actually think MGS4 is coming to the 360? ... :lol:
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#49 Foxhound_spy
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MGS4 is packed with many references to the PS3. I just don`t know from where lems here got the idea with MGS4 360 port......

True maybe it no too hard for Konami to replace PS3 references with Xbo-centric ones. But it`s clearly shows that both Konami / Kojima that they`ve on SONY`s side this gen............

HEAR THAT LEMS ?

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#50 romans828_2002
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Let me say this: If it were economically feasable for Konami to make MGS IV for the 360, you better believe that they would in a heartbeat. Even if (and I don't think they would) they had to water it down to play on the 360, if it made them money, they would. The only two things that would keep the game from coming to the 360 are 1) an exclusivity contract with Sony, which I'm pretty sure is the case, or 2) an very high cost to build the game for the 360, which is also likely. I wouldn't want to bet that it's coming to the 360. That being said, if it's the great game that cows say it is, why would you insult somebody for wanting it on their system. It's a perfectly logical thing to want good games for your system.