Kojima : [Natal] like the 2D to 3D shift

http://themindchannel.blogspot.com/2009/09/kojima-natal-will-start-revolution.html

"Kojima was absolutely blown away when he saw it. Takahashi claimed that he thought Kojima almost fainted when he saw it "

"we are going to see the same sort of revolution of going from 2D games to 3D games with the move to Natal ".

"[It's] like the 2D to 3D shift...that was the degree of shock I felt." He even believes the technology could expand beyond games and that "it has the potential to change life****dramatically."

"Kojima recognized the ability for Natal to bring in new gamers, but is wary of alienating his core fans. "Casual gaming is going to be quite important," he said. "But core games are also going to improve." Still, he said that "there will be users who will not be able to get used to [Natal]" because they are so used to using controllers right now."

comparing visuals elements of a game to motion control? he doesnt make sense.

This is an old thread, this has been done.

I've already posted in depth, TWICE on this subject. I will dig those up instaed of reposting essentially the same thoughts.

While I do hope NATAL is wonderful, I am not going to be sold on my or someone else's imagination or words.

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Software is what I care about, not nameless games.

It's cool that they got support (Obvious that was going to happen), what games actually come from this is what matters. If it's minigames from these folks, and half arsed stuff, it won't matter.

Putting a name on a paper means nothing. Sony did the same thing last gen with Eyetoy, putting companies names down like EA, Konami, Disney, etc.

Looks great, until you are using a magic wand and casting spells in Harry Potter for PS2...

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How can anyone really praise a product that we know almost nothing about? I think the PR on this project is top notch, because we have people stoked and no games to literally point at in anticipation. It's amazing marketing.

Kojima's only talking about it.

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Until there is some REAL SOFTWARE, consider me unwowed no matter their attempt at hype. I'll give them props though, there is some folks excited, so obviously others are too, despite the lack of real games, so that's something.

That's great, but they are only speaking about it.

I am still not even convinced on the technology yet. It's one thing if Kojima was talking about HIS NEW GAME for X Console, as we know what to expect. It's another to hear him or anyone talk about Natal before we can actuallly play any games.
Right now, Hype is our imaginations.

I can Imagine Minority Report, Matrix, Gamer, etc, but I care about the reality, y'know?

For the Record, Kojima said similar things about the Wii.

comparing visuals elements of a game to motion control? he doesnt make sense.

ZoomZoom2490

Wonder how the PS fanboys will react to this. They all put Kojima on a pedastal and after saying Natal is garbage, yeah.

What, is it 360 bias again? That seems to be the excuse for everything that gives a positive comment to something Xbox related.

Wonder how the PS fanboys will react to this. They all put Kojima on a pedastal and after saying Natal is garbage, yeah.

What, is it 360 bias again? That seems to be the excuse for everything that gives a positive comment to something Xbox related.

ThePRAssassin

In my experience, it isn't the "PS Fanboys" you should worry about, Many many hardcore Xbox 360 gamers don't care about Natal at all. So, there is NATAL lovers which seems to be folks that love the MOTION CONCEPT.

Then you have folks that don't care about Natal, Wii, or PSWand.

Kojima said the exact same thing about the wii. Where is his games for that. And we can see where the wii went with HC gamers. Wont believe it until I see it.

[QUOTE="ThePRAssassin"]

Wonder how the PS fanboys will react to this. They all put Kojima on a pedastal and after saying Natal is garbage, yeah.

What, is it 360 bias again? That seems to be the excuse for everything that gives a positive comment to something Xbox related.

SolidTy

In my experience, it isn't the "PS Fanboys" you should worry about, Many many hardcore Xbox 360 gamers don't care about Natal at all. So, there is NATAL lovers which seems to be folks that love the MOTION CONCEPT.

Then you have folks that don't care about Natal, Wii, or PSWand.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="ThePRAssassin"]

Wonder how the PS fanboys will react to this. They all put Kojima on a pedastal and after saying Natal is garbage, yeah.

What, is it 360 bias again? That seems to be the excuse for everything that gives a positive comment to something Xbox related.

waynehead895

In my experience, it isn't the "PS Fanboys" you should worry about, Many many hardcore Xbox 360 gamers don't care about Natal at all. So, there is NATAL lovers which seems to be folks that love the MOTION CONCEPT.

Then you have folks that don't care about Natal, Wii, or PSWand.

Sure, they will probably dismiss this, I don't know.

However, those same guys dismissed Kojiima's Wii claims too, and looking back, what games did he make on Wii?

So maybe they are right to dismiss his claims on Natal, unless he actually decides in the near future to actually start making NATAL games, we already got a history to point at where he said similar things that resulted in nothing (Wii).

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Besides, those guys are the rare breed, I've been to this exact topic multiple times and I haven't seen these hardcore guys dismiss Kojima yet love him. I see people that say :

"I hate Motion on Wii, and I don't like Natal or PSWand"

"I will wait till we see games and it's out..."

"I am super excited!"

This is pretty much the groups we should be looking at.

nothing has convinced that Natal isn't just some suped up eye toy. Not even kojima's words make a difference.

[QUOTE="ThePRAssassin"]

Wonder how the PS fanboys will react to this. They all put Kojima on a pedastal and after saying Natal is garbage, yeah.

What, is it 360 bias again? That seems to be the excuse for everything that gives a positive comment to something Xbox related.

SolidTy

In my experience, it isn't the "PS Fanboys" you should worry about, Many many hardcore Xbox 360 gamers don't care about Natal at all. So, there is NATAL lovers which seems to be folks that love the MOTION CONCEPT.

Then you have folks that don't care about Natal, Wii, or PSWand.

A lot of people don't care about Natal, I don't either. However, this is System Wars and you'll never see a "lemming/cow/sheep/hermit" bash something that is exclusive to their platform, it just won't happen.

if Kojima says so then its laws :roll:

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="ThePRAssassin"]

Wonder how the PS fanboys will react to this. They all put Kojima on a pedastal and after saying Natal is garbage, yeah.

What, is it 360 bias again? That seems to be the excuse for everything that gives a positive comment to something Xbox related.

ThePRAssassin

In my experience, it isn't the "PS Fanboys" you should worry about, Many many hardcore Xbox 360 gamers don't care about Natal at all. So, there is NATAL lovers which seems to be folks that love the MOTION CONCEPT.

Then you have folks that don't care about Natal, Wii, or PSWand.

A lot of people don't care about Natal, I don't either. However, this is System Wars and you'll never see a "lemming/cow/sheep/hermit" bash something that is exclusive to their platform, it just won't happen.

Actually, while that is true for the most part, I've seen Cows bash PSWand, and I've seen Lemmings bash Natal.

Both of those crowds that I've seen bash it, don't like the approach to casuals, and are concerned about their games.

Somehow, I highly doubt that Kojima "nearly fainted when he saw it". I don't doubt that he likes Natal though. Think about it. The same Kojima had gamers changing memory card slots and controller slots around the world. He'll jump at the chance to make anything more involving.

Kojima can stfu in this case. Obviously popularity with the MGS franchise has clouded his judgement. Natal is not used to make gaming masterpieces like MGS4, it's used to make casual garbage for the simple minded folk.

Natal does not improve gaming, all it does is make you jump around.

Even Kojima knows that Natal >>>>>>>> sony's motion controller.You must accept it Cows because the all mighty Kojima said so.

Natal does not improve gaming, all it does is make you jump around.

Burning-Sludge

Isn't that M$'s Slogan... Jump In?

They hinted NATAL at launch!:shock: