Kokatu: Why Are You All Ignoring Blue Dragon?

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#1 Tnasty11
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Oh, didn't you know? Blue Dragon is out. In the West. In English and everything. And it's being totally ignored. Which having played it non-stop for the past week makes me a little sad. Sure, it does absolutely nothing new, but the old stuff it does, it does with a degree of polish you rarely see outside of a first-party Nintendo title. I love it. Might even be, at time of writing, one of the platform's strongest titles, and it definitely plugs a big hole in the 360's lineup. In fact the game's biggest problem is not its own, it's Microsofts decision to ship it in the second half of 2007. The cupboard was bare earlier this year: had this been released then I'd have played it for months. Now? I don't think I'll get past disc 2 before the downpour starts, and I'll end up retiring it to the cupboard until next year. Which is a damn shame.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/what.s-the-deal%3F/why-are-you-all-ignoring-blue-dragon-297957.php

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#2 Teh_Bob
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Because no one outside of a select group cares about JRPG's?

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#4 justforlotr2004
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Im still debating wiether to get it or not, I like RPG's but from what Ive heard the story isnt that great. Im more intrested in Lost oddessy since it seems to have a more deep story to it.
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#5 groudyogre
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Because it flopped. :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
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#6 aliasfreak
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That is a shame. I agree, it doesn't really reinvent the JRPG, but I'm glad. I don't want something new out of this, I want a fun game that is structured in theway that I have grown to love. I bought it Friday and can't stop playing it.
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#7 whocares4peace
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I would get it, but this game is only available in Japaneese where i live.And with such a story centric game, I cant see myself getting it.
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#8 AcidTWister
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because most 360 fans have the combined iq of a spoon and cant play JRPGs.......... jokingniall077

Because pressing X is hard.

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#9 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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Well if it does nothing new and has gotten mediocre reviews to date, that probably explains why its being ignored. Especially with a couple of blockbuster titles on the move.
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#10 GARRYTH
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because of 90% of 360 fans are fps or halo fans. outside of this gene is not going to sell alot.
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#11 Teh_Bob
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because of 90% of 360 fans are fps or halo fans. outside of this gene is not going to sell alot. GARRYTH

What a bizarrely ignorant statement. Have you checked the sales chart? 360gamers buy multiple games, PS3 owners don't.

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#12 GazzaB
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I admit the reviews have put me off, but i will get around to getting it...eventually.
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That is a shame. I agree, it doesn't really reinvent the JRPG, but I'm glad. I don't want something new out of this, I want a fun game that is structured in theway that I have grown to love. I bought it Friday and can't stop playing it.aliasfreak

Why re-invent when it's not broken?

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#14 shadowrun69
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Because a JRPG with a cute artstyle doesn't appeal to frat boys.
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because of 90% of 360 fans are fps or halo fans. outside of this gene is not going to sell alot. GARRYTH

And yet, games like Forza 2 and Dead Rising become BEST SELLERS.

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#16 coratel
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I love the occasional JRPG and rented this one. incredibly boring IMO. Did nothing new and didn't look or play well doing it. And I hated the character designs. Just my opinion though, glad you enjoy it.
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#17 Riverwolf007
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I wish I liked traditional J-rpgs more, I think I got my fill back in my NES, SNES, PS1 & 2days. Maybe someday I'll be ready again.
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#18 myke2010
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Despite the fact that the XBL demo didn't remotely impress me, I just rented Blue Dragon yesterday to see who was right, GS or some other websites. So far I feel the game was underrated here. The class custimomization feels sort of like a take off the FF jobs system (which I love), the animation, voices and music are all really well done and it has some great art direction. I haven't gotten far enough into the game to make an opinion on the story just yet though. All in all, it just might be worth a purchase for me after all.
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I bought it and love it. Come on lemmings, get this game!
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#20 LinKuei_warrior
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[QUOTE="niall077"]because most 360 fans have the combined iq of a spoon and cant play JRPGs.......... jokingAcidTWister

Because pressing X is hard.

im always unsheashing/sheashing my sword in Oblivion...which uses the x button :P

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#21 Kestastrophe
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Is it really necessary to have two threads dedicated to an editorial on a gaming blog?
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#22 SeanBond
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Because no one outside of a select group cares about JRPG's?

Teh_Bob

Which is why the Final Fantasy series sells so well everywhere in the world?

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#23 gingerdivid
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Because it sucks.
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Because it sucks.gingerdivid

Please provide proof that you've played it.

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#25 gingerdivid
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[QUOTE="gingerdivid"]Because it sucks.BioShockOwnz

Please provide proof that you've played it.

Big Rigs sucks, do I need proof that I played it to be able to say that?
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#26 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="gingerdivid"]Because it sucks.gingerdivid

Please provide proof that you've played it.

Big Rigs sucks, do I need proof that I played it to be able to say that?

Yes, because Big Rigs, quite frankly, Is graetness.
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[QUOTE="gingerdivid"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="gingerdivid"]Because it sucks.Vandalvideo

Please provide proof that you've played it.

Big Rigs sucks, do I need proof that I played it to be able to say that?

Yes, because Big Rigs, quite frankly, Is graetness.

Exactly.

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#28 gingerdivid
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="gingerdivid"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="gingerdivid"]Because it sucks.BioShockOwnz

Please provide proof that you've played it.

Big Rigs sucks, do I need proof that I played it to be able to say that?

Yes, because Big Rigs, quite frankly, Is graetness.

Exactly.

Ownage Accepted.
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#29 dream431ca
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Because RPG's suck on 360. *Bioshock is not an RPG* *Mass effect better be more of an RPG than Bioshock, concidering it's from Bioware*
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#30 ramey70
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JRPG's are the single worst games imaginable.
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#31 Riverwolf007
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I bought it and love it. Come on lemmings, get this game!BioShockOwnz
Tbo this guy has more credibility with me than 80% of the reviewers out there. I may try to put my J-rpg bias away and try this title but at the monent I'm tearing through Warhawk andStranglehold, and taking my time with Bioshock, so my time is pretty much used up for now.
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#32 ramey70
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Because RPG's suck on 360. *Bioshock is not an RPG* *Mass effect better be more of an RPG than Bioshock, concidering it's from Bioware*dream431ca

Oblivion was pretty awesome.

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#33 Vandalvideo
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JRPG's are the single worst games imaginable. ramey70
Ten bucks says hes really only played the mainstream crap.
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]I bought it and love it. Come on lemmings, get this game!Riverwolf007
Tbo this guy has more credibility with me than 80% of the reviewers out there. I may try to put my J-rpg bias away and try this title but at the monent I'm tearing through Warhawk andStranglehold, and taking my time with Bioshock, so my time is pretty much used up for now.

Nothing wrong with that. By the time you're ready to play it, it'll be like $10 since it will most likely do horrible over here. :(

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#35 ramey70
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[QUOTE="ramey70"]JRPG's are the single worst games imaginable. Vandalvideo
Ten bucks says hes really only played the mainstream crap.

I've played my fair share. I can't get past the homoerotic art style, dudes that look like chicks, and the pathetic "combat" such as "you hit so and so with mythical fart of fairy dust for 8 points damage".

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#36 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="ramey70"]JRPG's are the single worst games imaginable. ramey70

Ten bucks says hes really only played the mainstream crap.

I've played my fair share. I can't get past the homoerotic art style, dudes that look like chicks, and the pathetic "combat" such as "you hit so and so with mythical fart of fairy dust for 8 points damage".

You just illustrated that you really have no idea waht yu're talking about, and are spouting over generalizations only portrayed by 2 or 3 out of the dozens of high quality JRPG titles.
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#37 gingerdivid
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNzFE8rNPQU

:)

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#38 Ninja-Vox
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My brother's a massive RPG fan and he loves it. It's odd how it picked up 6's in some places and 9's in others. It must be one of those love-hate games.
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#39 ninjiijitsuu
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Because its a generic, cliche, mediocro jrpg. "Bad is happening! Justice Brigade, MOVE OUT!" And it flop.
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#40 Ninja-Vox
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Because it flopped. :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:groudyogre

You have both Metroid Prime and Twilight Princess in your sig. I just thought i'd point out the immense irony there.

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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]I bought it and love it. Come on lemmings, get this game!BioShockOwnz

Tbo this guy has more credibility with me than 80% of the reviewers out there. I may try to put my J-rpg bias away and try this title but at the monent I'm tearing through Warhawk andStranglehold, and taking my time with Bioshock, so my time is pretty much used up for now.

Nothing wrong with that. By the time you're ready to play it, it'll be like $10 since it will most likely do horrible over here. :(

Clear me a spot on your PSN and XBL friends lists, I've been trying to rem to get you on there, then get sidetracked between thinking it and doing it.
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[QUOTE="aliasfreak"]That is a shame. I agree, it doesn't really reinvent the JRPG, but I'm glad. I don't want something new out of this, I want a fun game that is structured in theway that I have grown to love. I bought it Friday and can't stop playing it.Supafly1

Why re-invent when it's not broken?

Yes. The formula is not broken. But there is a reason sometimes why games like Blue Dragon aren't popular in the state. Final Fantasy has always been the acception. It's always had the big budgest. To a degree is does carry a traditional Japanese style seen in roleplaying games. But even so, the game has always been targeted to a international group of gamers. It can afford to have a dynamic presentation; and that's just not in the field map. You look at the battle system and it has all these dramatic camera angles that make the character's actions look epic. The storylines are always grade A, and with each game there is a unique twist to the gameplay that keeps players intrigued.

I had my fun with a lot of Japanese RPGs in the late 90s. Those years the west and east were bridging a gap; and all these roleplay gaming were coming out of Japan. THAT WAS COOL. Now I honestly do not believe you need open-ended gameplay to make a RPG successful in North America or Europe.The formula may not be broken. But you would assume that since a lot of these Japanese developers who have designed these linear based RPGs for so long would, theybe able to create a title that can compete in the Western market. I've played cult-classic, and hidden gems before(and to much in this genre)-- that's what Blue Dragon will become. Those type of games are really niched based, and RPG fans are satisfied with what it delivers.

I just got a Xbox 360 and I plan to get this game mainly because it was a Sakaguchi project. I'm still amazed that the critics here in west do not like it. And that'sunusual considering it's from a man who is the Godfather of Final Fantasy. So I don't think there any excuse then. It honestly doesn't matter of you're a Xbox 360 owner and like FPS's alot. Because I love roleplaying games, but the Blue Dragon demo didn't really appeal. And hopefully that might changed this week. :P

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[QUOTE="ramey70"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="ramey70"]JRPG's are the single worst games imaginable. Vandalvideo

Ten bucks says hes really only played the mainstream crap.

I've played my fair share. I can't get past the homoerotic art style, dudes that look like chicks, and the pathetic "combat" such as "you hit so and so with mythical fart of fairy dust for 8 points damage".

You just illustrated that you really have no idea waht yu're talking about, and are spouting over generalizations only portrayed by 2 or 3 out of the dozens of high quality JRPG titles.

So how many JRPG's have an Oblivion type combat system or at the very least like Fallout?

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#45 Vandalvideo
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So how many JRPG's have an Oblivion type combat system or at the very least like Fallout?ramey70
I don't even see how thats relevant. There may be no JRPGs exactly like Oblivion, but there ARE MOST CERTAINLY JRPGs with real time combat thats very action oriented.
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#46 gingerdivid
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[QUOTE="ramey70"]So how many JRPG's have an Oblivion type combat system or at the very least like Fallout?Vandalvideo
I don't even see how thats relevant. There may be no JRPGs exactly like Oblivion, but there ARE MOST CERTAINLY JRPGs with real time combat thats very action oriented.

Oblivion hasn't got good combat anyway *looks at Mount and Blade*
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#47 The_Game21x
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because of 90% of 360 fans are fps or halo fans. outside of this gene is not going to sell alot. GARRYTH

I guess the same can be said about PS3 fans since the best selling game on the PS3 is an FPS. :|

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#48 furtherfan
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because it's the single most generic JRPG game ever made and we played those games too much anyway???
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#49 -wii60-
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I just didn't like the game..No my type IMO..
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#50 Virus214
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Oh, didn't you know? Blue Dragon is out. In the West. In English and everything. And it's being totally ignored. Which having played it non-stop for the past week makes me a little sad. Sure, it does absolutely nothing new, but the old stuff it does, it does with a degree of polish you rarely see outside of a first-party Nintendo title. I love it. Might even be, at time of writing, one of the platform's strongest titles, and it definitely plugs a big hole in the 360's lineup. In fact the game's biggest problem is not its own, it's Microsofts decision to ship it in the second half of 2007. The cupboard was bare earlier this year: had this been released then I'd have played it for months. Now? I don't think I'll get past disc 2 before the downpour starts, and I'll end up retiring it to the cupboard until next year. Which is a damn shame.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/what.s-the-deal%3F/why-are-you-all-ignoring-blue-dragon-297957.php

Tnasty11

it actually seems like a good game, i watched my bro play a little yesterday