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#1 Mystery_Writer
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The abandonment of the Cell architecture would thrill the many game developers who have struggled with the complex chipset, but it could also be viewed as the admission of a mistake

Cell was not the revolution Sony hoped and hyped that it would be. It also never managed to make the PS3 appear to be significantly more powerful than the year-older Xbox 360. That could have been the Cell's fault or simply the result of development decisions that compelled game creators to make their games run on both the PS3 and the generally-more-popular Xbox 360

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P.S. As usual, apologies if old

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#2 Kashiwaba
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I guess Vita is already a sign SONY will no longer go for special CPUs or anything like that.

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#3 finalstar2007
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New consoles better start at $299.99 or no buy

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#4 lbjkurono23
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As long as it can play games. I do wonder if this could cause problems with bc.
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#5 wewantdoom4now
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developers know how to use the cpu now so they might aswell keep it.

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#6 freedomfreak
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No 120fps anymore.

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#7 silversix_
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New consoles better start at $299.99 or no buy

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And be Wii's of this gen. Lets have another 7 years with games running at 720p. 300$ is ridiculous if you want *next gen* step.

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#8 meetroid8
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Not surprising after how disappointing the PS3 has been for them.
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#9 ActionRemix
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They're going with a Quantum processor instead. :P
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#10 JohnF111
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The problem was back when development of the Cell began the plans must have been mindblowing... Then Dual-cores, then quad-core arrived and it was only "a bit different". Might as well use Cell processors they own the manufacturing plant and pretty much own the designs already i mean lets face it.. no one else really wants it.
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#11 johny300
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But Teh Cell's power is over 9000.
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Came to post this news but anyway I think it's a good thing. Just make a normal CPU or utilise a normal one and focus on power rather than originality

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The abandonment of the Cell architecture would thrill the many game developers who have struggled with the complex chipset, but it could also be viewed as the admission of a mistake

Cell was not the revolution Sony hoped and hyped that it would be. It also never managed to make the PS3 appear to be significantly more powerful than the year-older Xbox 360. That could have been the Cell's fault or simply the result of development decisions that compelled game creators to make their games run on both the PS3 and the generally-more-popular Xbox 360

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I think it was neither and probably had more to do with weird design decisions. (taking a then-superpowerful, super expensive processor and giving it only 512mb of memory and a mediocre graphics card to work with)

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#14 foxhound_fox
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Not sure why they ever thought it was a good idea.
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Not sure why they ever thought it was a good idea.foxhound_fox

This.

The Cell was a business idea designed by business executives. A junior hardware engineer could've told you that it would have been a terrible idea from the start.

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#17 tagyhag
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How the hell are they going to surpass PS3's graphics without The Cell?
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#18 ShadowDeathX
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New consoles better start at $299.99 or no buy

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So if it is 299.98$, you won't buy it?
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#19 xhawk27
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Hahaha the Cell is a flop! One big giant Flop! :lol:

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#20 110million
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This is a doomed if you do, doomed if you don't scenario. No cell probably means imperfect BC, but it also means better multiplats in the future.
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#21 PillyChickle
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An x86 architecture? Well that's going to ruin backwards compatability, surely Sony would be smarter than that...

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#22 R3FURBISHED
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There was just too much power from the Cell - they couldn't handle the POWAH!
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#23 xhawk27
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There was just too much power from the Cell - they couldn't handle the POWAH!R3FURBISHED

More like they couldn't find the hidden power because it was so mysterious.

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#24 jer_1
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Good for them, the cell has been a problem since it's inception. Time for something to streamline the development hopefully.
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#25 R3FURBISHED
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[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]There was just too much power from the Cell - they couldn't handle the POWAH!xhawk27

More like they couldn't find the hidden power because it was so mysterious.

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[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]There was just too much power from the Cell - they couldn't handle the POWAH!xhawk27

More like they couldn't find the hidden power because it was so mysterious.

killzone 2/3 look more polished than any 360 exclusive fps so must of been good for something.

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#27 mike_on_mic
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This isn't news. Sony has developed 3 chips for each of its consoles. Why would it be news that they are ditching the Cell? Yes the Cell is more powerful than anything on the gaming market at the moment and even in the near future. Though it is possibly capable of performing very well with the PS4, I feel it was a result of them just upgrading the technology. They might use a lot of the underpinnings of the architecture, certainly multi-core processors aren't going away. But I will believe it properly when Sony come out and tell us the new processor for the PS4.
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#28 xhawk27
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[QUOTE="xhawk27"]

[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]There was just too much power from the Cell - they couldn't handle the POWAH!wewantdoom4now

More like they couldn't find the hidden power because it was so mysterious.

killzone 2/3 look more polished than any 360 exclusive fps so must of been good for something.

I think Gears 3 looks good but that isn't a fps. Crysis 2 is and it is on par with Killzone 2/3

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#30 HaloPimp978
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I guess this means the Wii U will be the only one with backwards compatibility.
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#31 Slow_Show
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An x86 architecture? Well that's going to ruin backwards compatability, surely Sony would be smarter than that...

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Err, you mean the same Sony that removed BC from the PS3 and never looked back?

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would be cool to see a 4 core cell damn that could do a lot of threads. thats like 28 theards!

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#33 Easyle
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[QUOTE="wewantdoom4now"]

[QUOTE="xhawk27"]

More like they couldn't find the hidden power because it was so mysterious.

xhawk27

killzone 2/3 look more polished than any 360 exclusive fps so must of been good for something.

I think Gears 3 looks good but that isn't a fps. Crysis 2 is and it is on par with Killzone 2/3

Hmm, an FPS made for 2011 computers versus a FPS made for 2005 hardware. I sure hope so.
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#34 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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Hahaha the Cell is a flop! One big giant Flop! :lol:

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And you're a dumbass! One big giant Dumbass! :D

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#35 AdmiralBison
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Not sure why they ever thought it was a good idea.XaosII

This.

The Cell was a business idea designed by business executives. A junior hardware engineer could've told you that it would have been a terrible idea from the start.

Yeah..."but Teh Cell" So it was backed up more by marketing and hype then the advise of junior engineers?
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This is a doomed if you do, doomed if you don't scenario. No cell probably means imperfect BC, but it also means better multiplats in the future. 110million
Just make another CPU and you could do like they did with the 60GB PHAT PS3 s and have both chips. The Emotion Engine with th untapped power is out. The Cell is out with its 4th dimension is out. What will the next CPU be hyped as?
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#37 DireOwl
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B-b-b-but teh powa of teh Cell!?

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#38 kris9031998
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Quad core running teh 2x GTX 580's. Holy sh*t just imagine how Gears would be like that....
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#39 eyebrows
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New consoles better start at $299.99 or no buy

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But then there would be no 599 US Dollars jokes :lol:

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#40 ForzaGearsFace
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yep they are following lead now

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#41 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

New consoles better start at $299.99 or no buy

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But then there would be no 599 US Dollars jokes :lol:

No, but there will be a similar 199 US Dollars for the Sony tablet controller.

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#42 Shinobi120
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If the cell processor goes away, then say goodbye to PS3 BC on PS4.

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#43 foxhound_fox
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I'm guessing they are waiting for Intel's Quantum chip.
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#44 campzor
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kotaku lol... might as well allow vgcharts in SW :lol: also...wouldnt that suck for b/c ?
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#45 ShuichiChamp24
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So i'm guessing 360 stylel BC?

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#46 cjuncto
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Big mistake on Sony's behalf. They seem to love to mess with the customer... Well customers push back.
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#47 ZoomZoom2490
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I dont think that alot of people know how weak the ps3 gpu really is, and to pull off games like uncharted, kz, and other exclusives because of the Cell is very, very impressive. if this story is true, the only reason sony might be ditching the Cell is to make the developing and porting much easier, and to cut down the costs. but remember folks, if you give the Cell a decent gpu to take the load that it wasnt supposed to do you would see much, much realistic physics, animation, etc than a standard cpu from AMD or Intel. i am somehow glad and not glad at the same time if this news is true, because we would be going backwards in terms of next-gen visual effects in animation and physics if this news were to be true, but costs and developing would be much better with general purpose cpu's from amd or intel.
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#48 AdjacentLives
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If the cell processor goes away, then say goodbye to PS3 BC on PS4.

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Like people said goodbye to PS2 BC on PS3 ?
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#49 SpruceCaboose
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Probably a good idea. The Cell was impressive, but expensive and hard to tap, which made it a less than ideal chip for a mass market gaming system.
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#50 SpruceCaboose
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If the cell processor goes away, then say goodbye to PS3 BC on PS4.

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Backward compatibility is a weird thing. Since us gamers got it, we now expect it. And for the most part, the vast majority use it very little or use it at all.