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#1 1Stark1
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This game is amazing. Theres so much chaos going on, more than any other FPS I've ever played. Uncharted 2 is a better game but I must admit Killzone 3 looks better. This looks so much better than KZ2 in many ways. While looking similar to 2, 3 has much much much more detail in its environments. I compared the two and couldn't believe the difference. 2's environment were pretty static and siimple compared to 3. (Does anyone else that has the game know what I mean by the environment detail compared to 2?) Also, the character models have recieved an upgrade as well. If Naughty Dog can improve Uncharted 3 over Uncharted 2 the way Guerrilla did with KZ3 in comparison with KZ2, then I'll be in amazement. Don't look at photos for KZ3, actually play it on a good HDTV to see its brillance. The gameplay is also top notch. This game deserved at least a 9.5, kinda hard to trust reviewers these days:?, oh well to hell with scores.:)

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#2 waltefmoney
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This game deserved at least a 9.5, kinda hard to trust reviewers these days:?, oh well to hell with scores.:)

1Stark1

It deserved a 9.5 because it had good graphics?

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#3 campzor
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[QUOTE="1Stark1"]

This game deserved at least a 9.5, kinda hard to trust reviewers these days:?, oh well to hell with scores.:)

waltefmoney

It deserved a 9.5 because it had good graphics?

apparently so.. he didnt even mention anything outside graphics like improved controls..
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#4 1Stark1
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[QUOTE="1Stark1"]

This game deserved at least a 9.5, kinda hard to trust reviewers these days:?, oh well to hell with scores.:)

waltefmoney

It deserved a 9.5 because it had good graphics?

I guess you didn't read my whole post, I said the gameplay was awesome too.

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#5 1Stark1
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="1Stark1"]

This game deserved at least a 9.5, kinda hard to trust reviewers these days:?, oh well to hell with scores.:)

campzor

It deserved a 9.5 because it had good graphics?

apparently so.. he didnt even mention anything outside graphics like improved controls..

I did, check the end of the OP.

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#6 SHR3DD3D
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9.5 > 8.5.

Maybe you'll succeed with Killzone 4, though.

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#7 walkingdream
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Metacritic and Gamespot disagrees
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#8 LucidJubilation
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annndddd Mass Effect 2 is a better than both of them. i thought cows were beginning to get over the graphic whore thing, yet, here we are. they game deserves a 9.5 because it has better graphics than the last one....really??? wow smh...seeing the mentlity of some on here is depressing.

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#9 waltefmoney
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I guess you didn't read my whole post, I said the gameplay was awesome too.

1Stark1

Oh, I missed that line. But you'll need to be a bit more specific to convince people.

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#10 deactivated-5bda06edf37ee
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wasn't impressed by the beta. even Crysis 2 looks better to me on consoles.

don't know if the singleplayer looks any different on KZ3, though.

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#11 dakan45
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[QUOTE="1Stark1"]

This game deserved at least a 9.5, kinda hard to trust reviewers these days:?, oh well to hell with scores.:)

waltefmoney

It deserved a 9.5 because it had good graphics?

Yeah like crysis, oh wait!!!
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#12 Tessellation
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nope negative thats just your opinion n not fact therefore i disagree.
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#13 1Stark1
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Metacritic and Gamespot disagrees walkingdream

opinions, everyone has them.....

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#14 1Stark1
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wasn't impressed by the beta. even Crysis 2 looks better to me on consoles.

don't know if the singleplayer looks any different on KZ3, though.

groowagon

the beta didn't give a good looking stage, the rest of the game is jaw dropping.

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[QUOTE="1Stark1"]

This game deserved at least a 9.5, kinda hard to trust reviewers these days:?, oh well to hell with scores.:)

waltefmoney

It deserved a 9.5 because it had good graphics?

Then again, crysis 1 did it.

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#16 Lto_thaG
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It looked very good,but it wasn't jawdropping.

I expected more.

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#17 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="walkingdream"]Metacritic and Gamespot disagrees 1Stark1

opinions, everyone has them.....

just like your opinion telling the game is graphics king n deserves a 9.5 ,let me guess you think yours is fact n the others don't count :lol: ?
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#18 1Stark1
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[QUOTE="1Stark1"]

[QUOTE="walkingdream"]Metacritic and Gamespot disagrees Tessellation

opinions, everyone has them.....

just like your opinion telling the game is graphics king n deserves a 9.5 ,let me guess you think yours is fact n the others don't count :lol: ?

reviews are subjective, graphics are more or less objective, you're comparing apples and oranges. You seem to take reviewers opinions as fact when its in your favor though.

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#19 1Stark1
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It looked very good,but it wasn't jawdropping.

I expected more.

Lto_thaG

I guess you already have a PS4 then, thats the only way I could understand you not being impressed lol. KZ3 rivals crysis in terms of graphical presentation. Of course, Crysis is more consistent though.

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#20 Lto_thaG
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

It looked very good,but it wasn't jawdropping.

I expected more.

1Stark1

I guess you already have a PS4 then, KZ3 rivals crysis in terms of graphical presentation. Of course, Crysis is more consistent though.

Oh no,it seems though you're getting hurt over every negative comment towards KZ3.Accept it,not everyone think it's superduper awesome.

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#21 KlepticGrooves
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I still rate Unreal Tournament 3 as the best looking game on consoles. Killzone 3 looks nice but it doesn't deserve the insane graphics king praise that people throw at it.

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#22 coreybg
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="1Stark1"]

This game deserved at least a 9.5, kinda hard to trust reviewers these days:?, oh well to hell with scores.:)

PSdual_wielder

It deserved a 9.5 because it had good graphics?

Then again, crysis 1 did it.

Because you've played it and know people didn't actually complete the game, they just stood there looking at textures.

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#23 Newhopes
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KZ3 is awful.

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#24 Elann2008
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Why are some of you guys speaking as if the TC isn't in this thread. :P In many ways, Killzone 3 is a nice improvement over KZ2. The controls were my biggest concern, and KZ3 nailed it without turning into some Call of Duty knock-off. The pacing and action-sequences seem to run along smoother as well, with more varied missions and settings. The graphics look different but I'm not sure if it's better than KZ2's, per se. It could be that KZ3 has more color. There are far more interesting set-pieces in Killzone 3.

Going into Killzone 2, I wanted to play the game mainly for the graphics and visuals. And I was blindly offset by it's sluggish and unresponsive controls. With that said, I really had to force myself to finish KZ2. I never thought it was a great game or AAA-status. Felt more like an 8.0 game, despite the nice graphics. KZ3 to me is like Dead Space 2 to Dead Space 1. It's filled with improvements over its predecessor and executes it very well. I hear all this talk about flopzone 3. I don't know... I thought it was a great game.

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[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

It deserved a 9.5 because it had good graphics?

coreybg

Then again, crysis 1 did it.

Because you've played it and know people didn't actually complete the game, they just stood there looking at textures.

Pretty damn much, notice all those youtube benchmark videos when it came out? Its still going. lol

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The leap from KZ1 to KZ2 was understandably huge but fro KZ2 to KZ3 s meh. They look almost the same apart from tiny details. The MLAA doesn't help the game at all, it is distracting. The environments are definitely bigger with more going on but thats not always a good thing.Overal I was let down by the game

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#27 Elann2008
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The leap from KZ1 to KZ2 was understandably huge but fro KZ2 to KZ3 s meh. They look almost the same apart from tiny details. The MLAA doesn't help the game at all, it is distracting. The environments are definitely bigger with more going on but thats not always a good thing.Overal I was let down by the game

seanmcloughlin
That's not really fair is it? You're comparing a huge jump from PS2 to PS3... and then PS3 to PS3. Eh..not a strong argument if you ask me.
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

The leap from KZ1 to KZ2 was understandably huge but fro KZ2 to KZ3 s meh. They look almost the same apart from tiny details. The MLAA doesn't help the game at all, it is distracting. The environments are definitely bigger with more going on but thats not always a good thing.Overal I was let down by the game

Elann2008

That's not really fair is it? You're comparing a huge jump from PS2 to PS3... and then PS3 to PS3. Eh..not a strong argument if you ask me.

He has a point though. The jump between Ass-Creed and Ass-Creed 2 was pretty big, so it's not as though sequels can't expand on their predecessors if they're both in the same gen of consoles. The devs could have done more with Kz3 but instead seem to have just tweaked certain parts.

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#29 Totalgym9000
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Just got the game today, and im playing it with playstation move, it's a freaking great game!! my favourite FPS in a long time.
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#30 soapandbubbles
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lol...gears 1 looks better. K3 is plagued with horrid textures and character detail..anyone can see that. they sacrificed detail and removed blurr...most of the impressive tech comes from the overall scale of war/effects!
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#31 dakan45
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[QUOTE="Elann2008"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

The leap from KZ1 to KZ2 was understandably huge but fro KZ2 to KZ3 s meh. They look almost the same apart from tiny details. The MLAA doesn't help the game at all, it is distracting. The environments are definitely bigger with more going on but thats not always a good thing.Overal I was let down by the game

KlepticGrooves

That's not really fair is it? You're comparing a huge jump from PS2 to PS3... and then PS3 to PS3. Eh..not a strong argument if you ask me.

He has a point though. The jump between Ass-Creed and Ass-Creed 2 was pretty big, so it's not as though sequels can't expand on their predecessors if they're both in the same gen of consoles. The devs could have done more with Kz3 but instead seem to have just tweaked certain parts.

There is no jump between assasin creed 1 and 2. First thing i noticed when i played ac2 was that they lowered the shaders quality to use dynamic lighting and filled the game with low draw distance so it can get good framerate in longer distances. No actual jump, just tweaked.
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#32 gameofthering
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[QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

It deserved a 9.5 because it had good graphics?

1Stark1

apparently so.. he didnt even mention anything outside graphics like improved controls..

I did, check the end of the OP.



Graphics
Gameplay

"This game is amazing. Theres so much chaos going on, more than any other FPS I've ever played. Uncharted 2 is a better game but I must admit Killzone 3 looks better. This looks so much better than KZ2 in many ways. While looking similar to 2, 3 has much much much more detail in its environments. I compared the two and couldn't believe the difference. 2's environment were pretty static and siimple compared to 3. (Does anyone else that has the game know what I mean by the environment detail compared to 2?) Also, the character models have recieved an upgrade as well. If Naughty Dog can improve Uncharted 3 over Uncharted 2 the way Guerrilla did with KZ3 in comparison with KZ2, then I'll be in amazement. Don't look at photos for KZ3, actually play it on a good HDTV to see its brillance. The gameplay is also top notch. This game deserved at least a 9.5, kinda hard to trust reviewers these days, oh well to hell with scores."

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I think an 8.5 was generous for a scaled down campaign, I mean sure there were nice improvements, such as the ammo dumps in the game to stock up with, the ability to carry a primary and secondary support weapon as well as a pistol, the ability to unmount and carry turret weapons, the game still lacks anything close to a decent story, the campaign length was too short, the multiplayer is decent and pretty fun, graphics were good but nothing astonishing and to me had more aesthetic value for the artistic design than crisp seamless presentation, the rail sections like gunning from the dropship, assault craft, APC, were way too short to be enjoyable, the mech part was also really cool except again too short to properly be enjoyed. There's other things too I think the series can improve on such as the cover system, snapping into cover doesn't get one completely out of the line of fire as it basically keeps you just above the cover than behind it, a Call of Juarez BiB type button free cover system would be more adequate IMO, would be better for default mapping L1 iron sights since your fingers won't be busy with using L2 for cover. Controls aside it's also worth noting the game has horrible audio syncing issues during cutscenes. Taking all this into consideration I think an 8.5 is a fair score. It's good but not exceptionally great overall.
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#34 Mozelleple112
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This game is amazing. Theres so much chaos going on, more than any other FPS I've ever played. Uncharted 2 is a better game but I must admit Killzone 3 looks better. This looks so much better than KZ2 in many ways. While looking similar to 2, 3 has much much much more detail in its environments. I compared the two and couldn't believe the difference. 2's environment were pretty static and siimple compared to 3. (Does anyone else that has the game know what I mean by the environment detail compared to 2?) Also, the character models have recieved an upgrade as well. If Naughty Dog can improve Uncharted 3 over Uncharted 2 the way Guerrilla did with KZ3 in comparison with KZ2, then I'll be in amazement. Don't look at photos for KZ3, actually play it on a good HDTV to see its brillance. The gameplay is also top notch. This game deserved at least a 9.5, kinda hard to trust reviewers these days:?, oh well to hell with scores.:)

1Stark1

I agree that it is the new console graphics king.


Killzone 3 > God of War 3 > Uncharted 2 > Killzone 2 > Heavy Rain

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#35 dommeus
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Cows are really harping on about console graphics king...way to twist the rules to 'win' something.

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#36 Blazerdt47
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annndddd Mass Effect 2 is a better than both of them. i thought cows were beginning to get over the graphic whore thing, yet, here we are. they game deserves a 9.5 because it has better graphics than the last one....really??? wow smh...seeing the mentlity of some on here is depressing.

LucidJubilation

Honestly I had more fun with Killzone 3 than Mass Effect 2. :roll:

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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

The leap from KZ1 to KZ2 was understandably huge but fro KZ2 to KZ3 s meh. They look almost the same apart from tiny details. The MLAA doesn't help the game at all, it is distracting. The environments are definitely bigger with more going on but thats not always a good thing.Overal I was let down by the game

Elann2008

That's not really fair is it? You're comparing a huge jump from PS2 to PS3... and then PS3 to PS3. Eh..not a strong argument if you ask me.

Agreed about that. Of course PS2 to PS3 is huge. And its not really fair. But the point I was trying to convey was the big attraction to play KZ2 was because it looked great. Everyone was talking about it and saying it was extraordinary for a console game. So when the third game hit that novelty wore off. Its still hailed as a great looking game but now everyone is passed how good it looks and its true flaws start to shine through. If they release a fourth one they will need to change the graphics again. Because the engine will start showing its age soon

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#38 LucidJubilation
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Cows are really harping on about console graphics king...way to twist the rules to 'win' something.

dommeus

what i find funny is he TELLS us its the new graphics king without even asking our opinion. when did cows get the power to tell us how things go around here?

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#39 soapandbubbles
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[QUOTE="1Stark1"]

This game is amazing. Theres so much chaos going on, more than any other FPS I've ever played. Uncharted 2 is a better game but I must admit Killzone 3 looks better. This looks so much better than KZ2 in many ways. While looking similar to 2, 3 has much much much more detail in its environments. I compared the two and couldn't believe the difference. 2's environment were pretty static and siimple compared to 3. (Does anyone else that has the game know what I mean by the environment detail compared to 2?) Also, the character models have recieved an upgrade as well. If Naughty Dog can improve Uncharted 3 over Uncharted 2 the way Guerrilla did with KZ3 in comparison with KZ2, then I'll be in amazement. Don't look at photos for KZ3, actually play it on a good HDTV to see its brillance. The gameplay is also top notch. This game deserved at least a 9.5, kinda hard to trust reviewers these days:?, oh well to hell with scores.:)

Mozelleple112

I agree that it is the new console graphics king.


Killzone 3 > God of War 3 > Uncharted 2 > Killzone 2 > Heavy Rain

you can't be serious..U2/heavyrain..smash K3 in detail/textures. K3 is an ugly shiny mess. just look at the hair/character models in cutscenes.

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#40 Jonas008
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i feel its the same graphics that killzone 2 has.. and the game just sux, uncharted 2 ftw :P
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#41 True-Legend86
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KillZone 3 is the best
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#42 rybe1025
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:lol: I just had to get a laugh out how the TC puts it as official. I hate to break it to you but it is not official.
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#43 1Stark1
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:lol: I just had to get a laugh out how the TC puts it as official. I hate to break it to you but it is not official.rybe1025

:lol: Yeah it pretty much is. Maybe if you actually played the game instead of blindly hating because its on PS3, you would know that.

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#44 MacaroniMoses
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Having just finished the game, I was left underwhelmed by both graphics and gameplay. Let this one go cow zealots.
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#45 chikenfriedrice
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no its really not that amazing....Uncharted 2 still holds the crown

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#46 DreamCryotank
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Shoving low res smoke effects everywhere on screen, and having a ridiculous amount of contrast =/= good graphics. The levels are static, low poly and low res.

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#47 6matt6
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I can think of loads of titles more worthy of the title then Killzone. Unless this is one of those threads where PC doesn't count because it would prove you wrong.
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#48 PAL360
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No, it´s not official. I say RDR and my opinion is as valid as yours ;)

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Member since 2009 • 4928 Posts

I just bought the game yesterday, I dont like the art style, sp looks beter them mp, but most of the mp maps are disgusting looking. This games grapics are over blown.

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#50 Kingpin0114
Member since 2008 • 2607 Posts

no its really not that amazing....Uncharted 2 still holds the crown

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