Lair new Graphics King?

Besides its so called bad controls, bad camera, and bad targeting. I'm renting it later to by the way.

Those of have played Gears of War, and HAVE played Lair. Would you say Lair is the new Graphics King? I mean the game does look sick.

Besides its so called bad controls, bad camera, and bad targeting. I'm renting it later to by the way.

Those of have played Gears of War, and HAVE played Lair. Would you say Lair is the new Graphics King? I mean the game does look sick.

caseypayne69

4.5

no.. only the water looks better.. and gears didnt have any so u cant compare it...framerate drops and washed out textures makes lair a 4.5 failhobbit93

gears had water...it looked like crap and when you shot it it didnt splash...2nd level after u get the first HoD and when you go outside you cross a bridge over water...

no.. only the water looks better.. and gears didnt have any so u cant compare it...framerate drops and washed out textures makes lair a 4.5 failhobbit93

guessing you havent played the hidden front map pack. the water looks amazing on black marsh along with the rain effects on the map subway.

[QUOTE="hobbit93"]no.. only the water looks better.. and gears didnt have any so u cant compare it...framerate drops and washed out textures makes lair a 4.5 failAskForDetails

gears had water...it looked like crap and when you shot it it didnt splash...2nd level after u get the first HoD and when you go outside you cross a bridge over water...

It does to splash, Ive shot at it on Gridlock.

[QUOTE="hobbit93"]no.. only the water looks better.. and gears didnt have any so u cant compare it...framerate drops and washed out textures makes lair a 4.5 failAskForDetails

gears had water...it looked like crap and when you shot it it didnt splash...2nd level after u get the first HoD and when you go outside you cross a bridge over water...

STALKER is the graphics king so far, and anyone who played that game on Max settings knows this.muscleserge

That wasn't the question though.

[QUOTE="hobbit93"]no.. only the water looks better.. and gears didnt have any so u cant compare it...framerate drops and washed out textures makes lair a 4.5 failAskForDetails

gears had water...it looked like crap and when you shot it it didnt splash...2nd level after u get the first HoD and when you go outside you cross a bridge over water...

except the water

Well I didn't know there was a Lair Gears thread already.

Here is what I see so far

Things on screen

Gears 10 Max

Lair 100+

Scale of map

Gears Closed space

Lair Open world

Draw distance

Gears loading textures before your eye's

Lair Insane Draw distance

Interaction with Environment

Gears Water didn't splash when shot at

Lair Alot more interaction and the ocean reacts to you.

Can you imagine someone taking Lairs engine and shrinking it down to FPS graphics? Would probably be sick. I am a graphics hog so I'll probably end up buying Lair, but dang Sony should put a demo out.

[QUOTE="caseypayne69"]

Besides its so called bad controls, bad camera, and bad targeting. I'm renting it later to by the way.

Those of have played Gears of War, and HAVE played Lair. Would you say Lair is the new Graphics King? I mean the game does look sick.

Onoskelis

4.5

He asked if it was the new game with the best graphics and he knows it doesn't have good gameplay, what does the score have to do with this?

example.muscleserge

[QUOTE="muscleserge"]STALKER is the graphics king so far, and anyone who played that game on Max settings knows this.BioShockOwnz

That wasn't the question though.

Can you imagine someone taking Lairs engine and shrinking it down to FPS graphics? Would probably be sick. I am a graphics hog so I'll probably end up buying Lair, but dang Sony should put a demo out.

caseypayne69

Why would they do that? Lair is basically a tech demo ;) . ( I want a Demo too, so i can show the graphics before playing something actually fun :P )

[QUOTE="muscleserge"] example.hobbit93

example.muscleserge

Example of redundant textures and not very sharp ones at that?

Can you imagine someone taking Lairs engine and shrinking it down to FPS graphics? Would probably be sick. I am a graphics hog so I'll probably end up buying Lair, but dang Sony should put a demo out.

caseypayne69

wonders how you managed during ps2 gen.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="muscleserge"]STALKER is the graphics king so far, and anyone who played that game on Max settings knows this.muscleserge

That wasn't the question though.

I think the OP was talking about the graphics king between Xbox 360 and PS3. We all know PC gaming will always be superior.

Nope. Lair has framerate issues and screen tearing.BioShockOwnz

Gears had framerate issues. Point?

[QUOTE="muscleserge"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="muscleserge"]STALKER is the graphics king so far, and anyone who played that game on Max settings knows this.BioShockOwnz

That wasn't the question though.

I think the OP was talking about the graphics king between Xbox 360 and PS3. We all know PC gaming will always be superior.

example.muscleserge

KING and its been king since E3 05...yea thats realtime for ya

Well I didn't know there was a Lair Gears thread already.

Here is what I see so far

Things on screen

Gears 10 Max

Lair 100+

Scale of map

Gears Closed space

Lair Open world

Draw distance

Gears loading textures before your eye's

Lair Insane Draw distance

Interaction with Environment

Gears Water didn't splash when shot at

Lair Alot more interaction and the ocean reacts to you.

Can you imagine someone taking Lairs engine and shrinking it down to FPS graphics? Would probably be sick. I am a graphics hog so I'll probably end up buying Lair, but dang Sony should put a demo out.

caseypayne69

that is very true

as far as best graphics so far this gen IMHO its..

1.Motorstorm

2.Lair

3.Bioshock

4.Gears

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Nope. Lair has framerate issues and screen tearing.caseypayne69

Gears had framerate issues. Point?

I guess you haven't played both. Lair's framerate gets unacceptable at points when the action really heats up. I never noticed a dip like that in Gears. Don't question me. You asked people who played both and I gave you my answer.

here's what Gamespy had to say: http://ps3.gamespy.com/playstation-3/lair/817994p2.html

While Lair's graphics (referenced by some as one of the game's better features) are indeed high-resolution, the beautiful screenshots are not wholly representative of what the game actually looks like during play. There is a staggering amount of stutter in the framerate, so while the game looks fantastic when idling, actually engaging in the pitched dragon battles we'd been promised causes the game performance to take a nosedive. Seriously crowded combat can result in an upsetting strobe effect that should never occur on a console.

Up close, the water is a magnificent achievement with several layers of undulating waves and gorgeously reflected light. Unfortunately, you don't spend a ton of time flying close to the water and when you are far away from it, the texture repetition produces an unsightly tiling effect. In fact, most of the textures in Lair seem to be repeated too frequently, causing many surfaces in the game to appear as though they are actually gaudy linoleum flooring instead of the farmland that they are supposed to resemble.

gamespy

KING and its been king since E3 05...yea thats realtime for ya

AskForDetails

im skeptical heavy rain will look like that. be awesome if they end up delivering that without hindering gameplay. i rather wait and see how it turns out.

Technically yes. Gears doesn't render even half the things that are on screen in Lair.

But i don't know if it looks better.

[QUOTE="AskForDetails"]

KING and its been king since E3 05...yea thats realtime for ya

istreakforfood

im skeptical heavy rain will look like that. be awesome if they end up delivering that without hindering gameplay. i rather wait and see how it turns out.

That was a tech demo, so we'll see if it can live up to it. It's currently my most anticipated game besides Crysis and Alan Wake though.

[QUOTE="AskForDetails"]

KING and its been king since E3 05...yea thats realtime for ya

istreakforfood

im skeptical heavy rain will look like that. be awesome if they end up delivering that without hindering gameplay. i rather wait and see how it turns out.

actually the devs of this game are known for gameplay/story...not graphics and this is a 3 year old video... sooooooo you shouldnt be skeptical

"justforlotr2004" Look at the character model, all objects in the game cast correct shadow, and are quite nicely detailed and bumpmapped. Don't even get me started on the Draw and Lighting distance.muscleserge

The only thing that looks good is the character and the lighting/shadows. The enviroment textures are redundant, almost the entire setting has the same type of bump mapping and its not very sharp. Also I dont get what your talking draw distance, that draw distance is about 100 yards in that photo, even Halo 3 which supposibly looks just like Halo 2 HD has miles worth of clear crisp draw distance.

lol anyway dont get me wrong Im not saying the game looks bad, just that image right there doesnt show off anything good but a few aspects.

[QUOTE="istreakforfood"][QUOTE="AskForDetails"]

KING and its been king since E3 05...yea thats realtime for ya

AskForDetails

im skeptical heavy rain will look like that. be awesome if they end up delivering that without hindering gameplay. i rather wait and see how it turns out.

actually the devs of this game are known for gameplay/story...not graphics and this is a 3 year old video... sooooooo you shouldnt be skeptical

yea ppl that made indigo prophecies (good game btw) worked on it. just cause it was a trailer shown at e3 i shouldnt be skeptical just like how motorstorm didnt look like their previous videos or how ppl said lair was going to be awesome cause factor 5 made rogue squadron. i rather wait and see on how it turns out.

I'm talking about tearing, square waves, a chugging framerate and water effects that look like sand.

Graphics 7.5 It's the defintion of a mixed bag.

ign

When did 7.5 on graphics become graphics king?

[QUOTE="muscleserge"]"justforlotr2004" Look at the character model, all objects in the game cast correct shadow, and are quite nicely detailed and bumpmapped. Don't even get me started on the Draw and Lighting distance.justforlotr2004

The only thing that looks good is the character and the lighting/shadows. The enviroment textures are redundant, almost the entire setting has the same type of bump mapping and its not very sharp. Also I dont get what your talking draw distance, that draw distance is about 100 yards in that photo, even Halo 3 which supposibly looks just like Halo 2 HD has miles worth of clear crisp draw distance.

lol anyway dont get me wrong Im not saying the game looks bad, just that image right there doesnt show off anything good but a few aspects.

[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]

[QUOTE="muscleserge"]"justforlotr2004" Look at the character model, all objects in the game cast correct shadow, and are quite nicely detailed and bumpmapped. Don't even get me started on the Draw and Lighting distance.muscleserge

The only thing that looks good is the character and the lighting/shadows. The enviroment textures are redundant, almost the entire setting has the same type of bump mapping and its not very sharp. Also I dont get what your talking draw distance, that draw distance is about 100 yards in that photo, even Halo 3 which supposibly looks just like Halo 2 HD has miles worth of clear crisp draw distance.

lol anyway dont get me wrong Im not saying the game looks bad, just that image right there doesnt show off anything good but a few aspects.

Ive personally not had the chance or the PC to play to game so I wont comment anymore on it but yeah that shot wasnt the best but Im sure its a great game.

[QUOTE="AskForDetails"][QUOTE="istreakforfood"][QUOTE="AskForDetails"]

KING and its been king since E3 05...yea thats realtime for ya

istreakforfood

im skeptical heavy rain will look like that. be awesome if they end up delivering that without hindering gameplay. i rather wait and see how it turns out.

actually the devs of this game are known for gameplay/story...not graphics and this is a 3 year old video... sooooooo you shouldnt be skeptical

yea ppl that made indigo prophecies (good game btw) worked on it. just cause it was a trailer shown at e3 i shouldnt be skeptical just like how motorstorm didnt look like their previous videos or how ppl said lair was going to be awesome cause factor 5 made rogue squadron. i rather wait and see on how it turns out.

motostorms vid wasnt real time... this is realtime

motostorms vid wasnt real time... this is realtime

AskForDetails

:roll:

i rather wait and see for the final product. btw this was one of the few reasons for wanting a ps3 back in e3 06. not so much right now since there are other games that i want along with no news update bout this game.