Lair won't reach AA

Maybe not even A.

I'm not a lem or a sheep, in fact, the only next-gen console I own is a PS3. But I think everyone knows that this game has weak gameplay. EXTREMELY weak gameplay, and for that reason, it will flop hard. Please Cows, don't hype it or you'll regret it. And think about it, if you hype it less than A and it reaches AA... it's just better!

I may be blind, but where is the weak gameplay? Are you saying that xbox 360 fanboys actually know what weak gameplay is? When they keep talking about how good pdz, and kameo is?drsports1980

Lems have nothing to do with this, the gameplay just looks horrible

It looks like it will have kitsch value at the least. Kind of like a bad direct to Sci-Fi network fantasy film. Might push it into the low A region.

[QUOTE="drsports1980"]I may be blind, but where is the weak gameplay? Are you saying that xbox 360 fanboys actually know what weak gameplay is? When they keep talking about how good pdz, and kameo is?Timesplitter14

Lems have nothing to do with this, the gameplay just looks horrible

Hmm, I'm not sure.

I don't think the gameplay looks horrible, just simplistic. Maybe there are hidden depths within the gameplay we havn't seen in the videos yet. 

yeah the graphics looks good but i don't know about gameplay, i mean flying around on a dragon with sixaxis? i mean come on now it'd be cool if you could jump off the dragon onto platform and fight melee with your swordddldave

Yeah but sixaxis isn't a problem for me though, I like it (dunno if that's what you meant?)

[QUOTE="drsports1980"]I may be blind, but where is the weak gameplay? Are you saying that xbox 360 fanboys actually know what weak gameplay is? When they keep talking about how good pdz, and kameo is?Timesplitter14

Lems have nothing to do with this, the gameplay just looks horrible

I don't think I am watching the same videos as you. Personally it seems to be excellent. I remember the old videos, and to compare them to the new gametrailers.com videos is a joke. This game looks alot of fun, and have similarities to some of the most acclaim games, god of war to give an example. All those slow-mo stuff where you press a button and you kill the dragon, etc. Also did you see the boss battle? That seemed pretty epic, and amazing. You also feel this epic feeling, when you are just rampaging through 1000's of men: by pressing a few buttons. This has no similarities at all with dynasty warriror, seeing how the epicness is inexistant there, and you are just pressing x,x,x,x,x,x,x 100 times. Also the graphics are vastly superior to the ones of dynasty warriror.

What next? Are you going to state how the gameplay mechanics are bad? Go read up ign article, every time you beat one of the levels, you get a new move. This makes the game have more advanced gameplay mechanics as well. Also, if you notice, there is 3 different battle stances, air combat, on-foot combat, and close range air combat. This will make the game not repetitive at all and will make the game all together fun.

There is also some very cool features that were shown in the gametrailer video. You could eat enemies, grab a rhino's head and rip it off, and throw the head at enemies. Also, you could pick up enemies and throw them off the bridge. I don't see any game with this much of a different combat scene. Unlike geow, which was a shooter, that did have only one type of combat stance was excellent. Some people can say the similar thing for any game, but I believe that the gameplay mechanics in this game are actually much more advanced then drakengard. So, please don't tell me not to hype a game, that I actually know much more detail, and other stuff about this game.

If anyone thinks this game is underwhelming, I am simply amazed. I guess you have never played a air combat game in your life, 

yeah the graphics looks good but i don't know about gameplay, i mean flying around on a dragon with sixaxis? i mean come on now it'd be cool if you could jump off the dragon onto platform and fight melee with your swordddldave

that would own, but lair is underwhelming as it is.

  The gameplay looks boring, i doubt this game will get AAA, maybe low AA or high A, I hope i'm wrong cuz i really need some good games to play on my ps3 (i'm a cow btw). To be positive i think it looks promising, ohh btw can you dismount off the dragon?

Maybe not even A.

I'm not a lem or a sheep, in fact, the only next-gen console I own is a PS3. But I think everyone knows that this game has weak gameplay. EXTREMELY weak gameplay, and for that reason, it will flop hard. Please Cows, don't hype it or you'll regret it. And think about it, if you hype it less than A and it reaches AA... it's just better!

Timesplitter14

How is the gameplay "weak"? To me it looks like good use of the Six-axis combined with large-scale intense combat, epic finishing moves, and excellent graphics.

What else could you ask for a game that focuses on flying dragons? Tell me.

[QUOTE="Timesplitter14"]

Maybe not even A.

I'm not a lem or a sheep, in fact, the only next-gen console I own is a PS3. But I think everyone knows that this game has weak gameplay. EXTREMELY weak gameplay, and for that reason, it will flop hard. Please Cows, don't hype it or you'll regret it. And think about it, if you hype it less than A and it reaches AA... it's just better!

HummaKavula

How is the gameplay "weak"? To me it looks like good use of the Six-axis combined with large-scale intense combat, epic finishing moves, and excellent graphics.

What else could you ask for a game that focuses on flying dragons? Tell me.

Guns and a chainsaw. 

  The gameplay looks boring, i doubt this game will get AAA, maybe low AA or high A, I hope i'm wrong cuz i really need some good games to play on my ps3 (i'm a cow btw). To be positive i think it looks promising, ohh btw can you dismount off the dragon?

thejakel11225

No, they explained it as why would a Dragon flyer be conducting hand to hand combat when thats not his strength.

You can read all this at www.ign.com

If you ask me, this game isnt living up to what it could be.

You could have acrobatic dragon combat, evasive manuvers etc, you could have realistic physics of the dragon body, you could have the ability to dismount and summon your dragon at will

but instead, you have a game where the enemies are like target practice (the soliders stand perfectly still, and the enemy dragon fly in straight lines), you have a game where the dragon turn around, and theres no whiplash of his tail, instead it remaind perfectly horizontal. Then you have those scripted dragon fights, i can see it getting old after 3 tries.

The gameplay looks boring. you press one button on dragon back  to shoot fireballs, and one to plow through enemies on the ground. woopti do. 

on the plus side, the water and zrmour reflections are pretty, this game could be so much more.  

Maybe not even A.

I'm not a lem or a sheep, in fact, the only next-gen console I own is a PS3. But I think everyone knows that this game has weak gameplay. EXTREMELY weak gameplay, and for that reason, it will flop hard. Please Cows, don't hype it or you'll regret it. And think about it, if you hype it less than A and it reaches AA... it's just better!

Timesplitter14

really, do you work for factor 5.  if you dont how have you played it yet

If you ask me, this game isnt living up to what it could be.

You could have acrobatic dragon combat, evasive manuvers etc, you could have realistic physics of the dragon body, you could have the ability to dismount and summon your dragon at will

 

but instead, you have a game where the enemies are like target practice (the soliders stand perfectly still, and the enemy dragon fly in straight lines), you have a game where the dragon turn around, and theres no whiplash of his tail, instead it remaind perfectly horizontal. Then you have those scripted dragon fights, i can see it getting old after 3 tries.

 

The gameplay looks boring. you press one button on dragon back to shoot fireballs, and one to plow through enemies on the ground. woopti do.

on the plus side, the water and zrmour reflections are pretty, this game could be so much more.

JPOBS

Go to ign, and read it up. You aren't just pressing one button. Just learn about the game, this has to be the most frusterating thing I have ever read, you gave your opinion without any truth.

If you ask me, this game isnt living up to what it could be.

You could have acrobatic dragon combat, evasive manuvers etc, you could have realistic physics of the dragon body, you could have the ability to dismount and summon your dragon at will

 

but instead, you have a game where the enemies are like target practice (the soliders stand perfectly still, and the enemy dragon fly in straight lines), you have a game where the dragon turn around, and theres no whiplash of his tail, instead it remaind perfectly horizontal. Then you have those scripted dragon fights, i can see it getting old after 3 tries.

 

The gameplay looks boring. you press one button on dragon back  to shoot fireballs, and one to plow through enemies on the ground. woopti do. 

on the plus side, the water and zrmour reflections are pretty, this game could be so much more.  

JPOBS

omg yes we get it your not impressed with the game, sheesh how many more times are you gonna explain this to everyone?

[QUOTE="JPOBS"]

If you ask me, this game isnt living up to what it could be.

You could have acrobatic dragon combat, evasive manuvers etc, you could have realistic physics of the dragon body, you could have the ability to dismount and summon your dragon at will

 

but instead, you have a game where the enemies are like target practice (the soliders stand perfectly still, and the enemy dragon fly in straight lines), you have a game where the dragon turn around, and theres no whiplash of his tail, instead it remaind perfectly horizontal. Then you have those scripted dragon fights, i can see it getting old after 3 tries.

 

The gameplay looks boring. you press one button on dragon back to shoot fireballs, and one to plow through enemies on the ground. woopti do.

on the plus side, the water and zrmour reflections are pretty, this game could be so much more.

drsports1980

Go to ign, and read it up. You aren't just pressing one button. Just learn about the game, this has to be the most frusterating thing I have ever read, you gave your opinion without any truth.

[QUOTE="JPOBS"]

If you ask me, this game isnt living up to what it could be.

You could have acrobatic dragon combat, evasive manuvers etc, you could have realistic physics of the dragon body, you could have the ability to dismount and summon your dragon at will

 

but instead, you have a game where the enemies are like target practice (the soliders stand perfectly still, and the enemy dragon fly in straight lines), you have a game where the dragon turn around, and theres no whiplash of his tail, instead it remaind perfectly horizontal. Then you have those scripted dragon fights, i can see it getting old after 3 tries.

 

The gameplay looks boring. you press one button on dragon back to shoot fireballs, and one to plow through enemies on the ground. woopti do.

on the plus side, the water and zrmour reflections are pretty, this game could be so much more.

-Sir-Poof-

omg yes we get it your not impressed with the game, sheesh how many more times are you gonna explain this to everyone?

I may be blind, but where is the weak gameplay? Are you saying that xbox 360 fanboys actually know what weak gameplay is? When they keep talking about how good pdz, and kameo is?drsports1980

Lair looks Clunky and Boring. It's graphics are disappointing to say the least. Looks like total garbage.

Talk about your downgrades......

I think it will reach AA. Not sure about AAA though.Raidea

^what he said, it has the word shallow all over it. 

[QUOTE="Raidea"]I think it will reach AA. Not sure about AAA though.-KinGz-

^what he said, it has the word shallow all over it. 

says the guy with the geow avatar:roll:seriously if geow can get AAA you just never know what can happen here.

yeah the graphics looks good but i don't know about gameplay, i mean flying around on a dragon with sixaxis? i mean come on now it'd be cool if you could jump off the dragon onto platform and fight melee with your swordddldave

...you can jump off of your dragon in mid air, land on another dragon, throw the rider off, slice his throat, and land back on your dragon. 

yeah the graphics looks good but i don't know about gameplay, i mean flying around on a dragon with sixaxis? i mean come on now it'd be cool if you could jump off the dragon onto platform and fight melee with your swordddldave

You haven't played Rogue Squadron 3 (also by Factor 5). If you had, you'd know how godawfully bad their ground levels are in flying games. 

Maybe not even A.

I'm not a lem or a sheep, in fact, the only next-gen console I own is a PS3. But I think everyone knows that this game has weak gameplay. EXTREMELY weak gameplay, and for that reason, it will flop hard. Please Cows, don't hype it or you'll regret it. And think about it, if you hype it less than A and it reaches AA... it's just better!

Timesplitter14

TC FTW.

[QUOTE="-KinGz-"]

[QUOTE="Raidea"]I think it will reach AA. Not sure about AAA though.-Sir-Poof-

^what he said, it has the word shallow all over it.

says the guy with the geow avatar:roll:seriously if geow can get AAA you just never know what can happen here.

I may be blind, but where is the weak gameplay? Are you saying that xbox 360 fanboys actually know what weak gameplay is? When they keep talking about how good pdz, and kameo is?drsports1980

When have 360 owners ever talked about how great PDZ was?

Kameo wasn't bad though, and a damn site better than what I've read about Lair.

You're really hyping a 4.9 game?

Once again, 4 month old posts, please don't waste time with it.sazreal

[QUOTE="Timesplitter14"]

[QUOTE="drsports1980"]I may be blind, but where is the weak gameplay? Are you saying that xbox 360 fanboys actually know what weak gameplay is? When they keep talking about how good pdz, and kameo is?drsports1980

Lems have nothing to do with this, the gameplay just looks horrible

I don't think I am watching the same videos as you. Personally it seems to be excellent. I remember the old videos, and to compare them to the new gametrailers.com videos is a joke. This game looks alot of fun, and have similarities to some of the most acclaim games, god of war to give an example. All those slow-mo stuff where you press a button and you kill the dragon, etc. Also did you see the boss battle? That seemed pretty epic, and amazing. You also feel this epic feeling, when you are just rampaging through 1000's of men: by pressing a few buttons. This has no similarities at all with dynasty warriror, seeing how the epicness is inexistant there, and you are just pressing x,x,x,x,x,x,x 100 times. Also the graphics are vastly superior to the ones of dynasty warriror.

What next? Are you going to state how the gameplay mechanics are bad? Go read up ign article, every time you beat one of the levels, you get a new move. This makes the game have more advanced gameplay mechanics as well. Also, if you notice, there is 3 different battle stances, air combat, on-foot combat, and close range air combat. This will make the game not repetitive at all and will make the game all together fun.

There is also some very cool features that were shown in the gametrailer video. You could eat enemies, grab a rhino's head and rip it off, and throw the head at enemies. Also, you could pick up enemies and throw them off the bridge. I don't see any game with this much of a different combat scene. Unlike geow, which was a shooter, that did have only one type of combat stance was excellent. Some people can say the similar thing for any game, but I believe that the gameplay mechanics in this game are actually much more advanced then drakengard. So, please don't tell me not to hype a game, that I actually know much more detail, and other stuff about this game.

If anyone thinks this game is underwhelming, I am simply amazed. I guess you have never played a air combat game in your life,

yeah, they gave this game a 4.9 :shock:

7 is my guessGarchomPro

:lol: i like how cows were hyping this game AAA, then suddenly pretend it didnt happen when IGN flopped it 4.9

Regardless of when the original post is from, I doubt the game will even reach A status now.

Gamerankings has it at an average score of 64%. IGN's hasn't been added yet though, but if you added that into the average, it drops to 62%.

The next review has to be a 12.6/10 to get it up to an average of 70%. :|

I may be blind, but where is the weak gameplay? Are you saying that xbox 360 fanboys actually know what weak gameplay is? When they keep talking about how good pdz, and kameo is?drsports1980

Kameo was actually a very good game. You must not have ever played it. Don't know about Lair as I didn't get a chance to play the demo. Anything with SixAxis steering type control, I don't really care for. I'd rather use the analog sticks instead. Lair looked average to me. Graphic were nice, but I had a feeling the game wasn't going to live up to everyone expectation.