Last Remnant (for PS3/360) square enix new game

A new RPG title utilizing the Unreal Engine 3 for a next-gen role-playing experience

Why oh why do they have to use UE3...Teufelhuhn

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]Why oh why do they have to use UE3...DaysAirlines

Well I sure hope they use the part of the White Engine that has Anti-Aliasing.   

Why oh why do they have to use UE3...Teufelhuhn

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]Why oh why do they have to use UE3...Ibacai

I know why it makes sense for them to use it, I'm just whining because I'm a stickler for jaggies.  :P

It will be best on the PS3 because of random 360 insult.DaysAirlines

LOOOOOOOL:lol: 

[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]Why oh why do they have to use UE3...Teufelhuhn

I know why it makes sense for them to use it, I'm just whining because I'm a stickler for jaggies. :P

Bout time SE showed the 360 some love. Despite some of the low res textures in those screenshots, it still looks very promising. I cannot wait for this game, as I have recently become a SE fan (Just beat FF XII and FF III, playing FF IV and VII).Kestastrophe

That must be the infamous "Jag City".metalmonkey268

And i thought it was "last gen city"

Ok so Wii version?

Oh wait not enough power? But you said everything works long as you downgrade enough:roll: 

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]Why oh why do they have to use UE3...Ibacai

I know why it makes sense for them to use it, I'm just whining because I'm a stickler for jaggies. :P

I just hope they fix it for the PS3...every multiplat game I have seen, it seems the PS3 has a lot more jaggies than its 360 counterpart....Not overwhelming, and probably wont notice it unless playing it side by side, but just knowing its there...

And we all know, knowing is half the battle 

I am sure Square won't dissapoint with Lost Remnant graphics, as with FF13, and they will make 360 version ground up first, with the super textures and shaders for the more 360 ram and better GPU, and only then port to the inferior PS3greg_splicer

 And here comes greg and his fanboyism. The thread was doing ok before this BS came along. Congrats again on your achievement as teh greatest fanboy this weak greg.

I am sure Square won't dissapoint with Lost Remnant graphics, as with FF13, and they will make 360 version ground up first, with the super textures and shaders for the more 360 ram and better GPU, and only then port to the inferior PS3greg_splicer

Actually the game will be built around the superior PS3 and then ported to the inferior 360... just like UT3. Games built specifically for the PS3 have already proven to be more impressive... particularly when there is a lot of onscreen action. Just get over it.

I am sure Square won't dissapoint with Lost Remnant graphics, as with FF13, and they will make 360 version ground up first, with the super textures and shaders for the more 360 ram and better GPU, and only then port to the inferior PS3greg_splicer

Get out, loser. This thread was doing fine without you. 

Ok so Wii version?

Oh wait not enough power? But you said everything works long as you downgrade enough:roll:

Oemenia

:lol: 

[QUOTE="greg_splicer"]I am sure Square won't dissapoint with Lost Remnant graphics, as with FF13, and they will make 360 version ground up first, with the super textures and shaders for the more 360 ram and better GPU, and only then port to the inferior PS3Sgt_Hale

Actually the game will be built around the superior PS3 and then ported to the inferior 360... just like UT3. Games built specifically for the PS3 have already proven to be more impressive... particularly when there is a lot of onscreen action. Just get over it.

Just like Colin ? OR assaisns Creed ? We STILL have not seen anything of the PS3 version for those games, BTW when did you see PS3 UT3 pics ? There is NONE !!! And games like Lair and Heavely Sword are SO BAD LOOKING, that can't even come miles close to Kameo, a.... launch ... 360 game !!!! So, games made ground up for PS3 then ported to 360 will always look like garbage, that is why ALL developers so far make 360 version first, then cut back for PS3

Assains Creed (Only 360 version shown)

Colin DIRT (months later for PS3)

Splinter Cell 4 (cut back totally)

Oblivion (cut back on texture resolution, AA, HDR)

Enchanted Amrs (i will not describe what was chped off that game for PS3, textures and geometry gone)

and the list will go on until the PS4 and xbox 720

[QUOTE="Sgt_Hale"]

[QUOTE="greg_splicer"]I am sure Square won't dissapoint with Lost Remnant graphics, as with FF13, and they will make 360 version ground up first, with the super textures and shaders for the more 360 ram and better GPU, and only then port to the inferior PS3greg_splicer

Actually the game will be built around the superior PS3 and then ported to the inferior 360... just like UT3. Games built specifically for the PS3 have already proven to be more impressive... particularly when there is a lot of onscreen action. Just get over it.

Just like Colin ? OR assaisns Creed ? We STILL have not seen anything of the PS3 version for those games, BTW when did you see PS3 UT3 pics ? There is NONE !!! And games like Lair and Heavely Sword are SO BAD LOOKING, that can't even come miles close to Kameo, a.... launch ... 360 game !!!! So, games made ground up for PS3 then ported to 360 will always look like garbage, that is why ALL developers so far make 360 version first, then cut back for PS3

Assains Creed (Only 360 version shown)

Colin DIRT (months later for PS3)

Splinter Cell 4 (cut back totally)

Oblivion (cut back on texture resolution, AA, HDR)

Enchanted Amrs (i will not describe what was chped off that game for PS3, textures and geometry gone)

and the list will go on until the PS4 and xbox 720

The only version of UT3 that has been shown so far is the PS3 version... or have you missed the latest Teambox article??? It's being built around the PS3 and already looks better than Gears. The PS3 has more power so it will then be ported down to the 360.

The first version of Assassin's creed shown off was a PS3 build... that comes straight from Ubi who's word is greater than your opinion.

Oblivion looks better on the PS3, period. EVERY gaming site agrees so your opinion here is pretty much pointless.

The textures for Enchanted Arms were in tact and the special effects actually tuned up a bit.

Armored Core 4 looked significantly better on the PS3.

College Hoops 2k7 scored higher on the PS3.

And Lair and NGS already looks better than ANYTHING released on the 360, period.

And the list will continue to go on as devs continue to tap into the power of the PS3. They're plateauing on what can be done on the 360, get over it.

Oh yea, and you probably chose to ignore the article last week from lead designer on GTA IV that the decision to release the game simlutaneously on the 360 is actually hindering the progress of the game due to the limitations of the 360.

[QUOTE="greg_splicer"][QUOTE="Sgt_Hale"]

[QUOTE="greg_splicer"]I am sure Square won't dissapoint with Lost Remnant graphics, as with FF13, and they will make 360 version ground up first, with the super textures and shaders for the more 360 ram and better GPU, and only then port to the inferior PS3Sgt_Hale

Actually the game will be built around the superior PS3 and then ported to the inferior 360... just like UT3. Games built specifically for the PS3 have already proven to be more impressive... particularly when there is a lot of onscreen action. Just get over it.

Just like Colin ? OR assaisns Creed ? We STILL have not seen anything of the PS3 version for those games, BTW when did you see PS3 UT3 pics ? There is NONE !!! And games like Lair and Heavely Sword are SO BAD LOOKING, that can't even come miles close to Kameo, a.... launch ... 360 game !!!! So, games made ground up for PS3 then ported to 360 will always look like garbage, that is why ALL developers so far make 360 version first, then cut back for PS3

Assains Creed (Only 360 version shown)

Colin DIRT (months later for PS3)

Splinter Cell 4 (cut back totally)

Oblivion (cut back on texture resolution, AA, HDR)

Enchanted Amrs (i will not describe what was chped off that game for PS3, textures and geometry gone)

and the list will go on until the PS4 and xbox 720

The only version of UT3 that has been shown so far is the PS3 version... or have you missed the latest Teambox article??? It's being built around the PS3 and already looks better than Gears. The PS3 has more power so it will then be ported down to the 360.

The first version of Assassin's creed shown off was a PS3 build... that comes straight from Ubi who's word is greater than your opinion.

Oblivion looks better on the PS3, period. EVERY gaming site agrees so your opinion here is pretty much pointless.

The textures for Enchanted Arms were in tact and the special effects actually tuned up a bit.

Armored Core 4 looked significantly better on the PS3.

College Hoops 2k7 scored higher on the PS3.

And Lair and NGS already looks better than ANYTHING released on the 360, period.

And the list will continue to go on as devs continue to tap into the power of the PS3. They're plateauing on what can be done on the 360, get over it.

Oh yea, and you probably chose to ignore the article last week from lead designer on GTA IV that the decision to release the game simlutaneously on the 360 is actually hindering the progress of the game due to the limitations of the 360.

Yep. Lets just wait for greg's tatic: screen shot comparison! Just wait to see his comparison of Kameo against Lair....I know its comming! He uses in every thread he goes to. Just to be discredited again, and again, and again......

This thread was alright without blind fanboyism. SE is showing its love for every one and we have this pathetic fanboyism ruining it.

I finally found a thread that everyone seemed to shwo some love for each other and then one post degenerates it another round of forum fisticuffs.

The game itself sounds like it could have some really cool ideas behind. Although the screenies are jaggy as all hell I can get over it if the games good enough.

[QUOTE="greg_splicer"][QUOTE="Sgt_Hale"]

[QUOTE="greg_splicer"]I am sure Square won't dissapoint with Lost Remnant graphics, as with FF13, and they will make 360 version ground up first, with the super textures and shaders for the more 360 ram and better GPU, and only then port to the inferior PS3Sgt_Hale

Actually the game will be built around the superior PS3 and then ported to the inferior 360... just like UT3. Games built specifically for the PS3 have already proven to be more impressive... particularly when there is a lot of onscreen action. Just get over it.

Just like Colin ? OR assaisns Creed ? We STILL have not seen anything of the PS3 version for those games, BTW when did you see PS3 UT3 pics ? There is NONE !!! And games like Lair and Heavely Sword are SO BAD LOOKING, that can't even come miles close to Kameo, a.... launch ... 360 game !!!! So, games made ground up for PS3 then ported to 360 will always look like garbage, that is why ALL developers so far make 360 version first, then cut back for PS3

Assains Creed (Only 360 version shown)

Colin DIRT (months later for PS3)

Splinter Cell 4 (cut back totally)

Oblivion (cut back on texture resolution, AA, HDR)

Enchanted Amrs (i will not describe what was chped off that game for PS3, textures and geometry gone)

and the list will go on until the PS4 and xbox 720

The only version of UT3 that has been shown so far is the PS3 version... or have you missed the latest Teambox article??? It's being built around the PS3 and already looks better than Gears. The PS3 has more power so it will then be ported down to the 360.

The first version of Assassin's creed shown off was a PS3 build... that comes straight from Ubi who's word is greater than your opinion.

Oblivion looks better on the PS3, period. EVERY gaming site agrees so your opinion here is pretty much pointless.

The textures for Enchanted Arms were in tact and the special effects actually tuned up a bit.

Armored Core 4 looked significantly better on the PS3.

College Hoops 2k7 scored higher on the PS3.

And Lair and NGS already looks better than ANYTHING released on the 360, period.

And the list will continue to go on as devs continue to tap into the power of the PS3. They're plateauing on what can be done on the 360, get over it.

Oh yea, and you probably chose to ignore the article last week from lead designer on GTA IV that the decision to release the game simlutaneously on the 360 is actually hindering the progress of the game due to the limitations of the 360.

Finally SQUARE-ENIX an ORIGNAL GAME YES!. Not a port, not a remake, not a spinoff an actual NEW GAME! YES!Blackbond

[QUOTE="greg_splicer"][QUOTE="Sgt_Hale"]

[QUOTE="greg_splicer"]I am sure Square won't dissapoint with Lost Remnant graphics, as with FF13, and they will make 360 version ground up first, with the super textures and shaders for the more 360 ram and better GPU, and only then port to the inferior PS3Sgt_Hale

Actually the game will be built around the superior PS3 and then ported to the inferior 360... just like UT3. Games built specifically for the PS3 have already proven to be more impressive... particularly when there is a lot of onscreen action. Just get over it.

Just like Colin ? OR assaisns Creed ? We STILL have not seen anything of the PS3 version for those games, BTW when did you see PS3 UT3 pics ? There is NONE !!! And games like Lair and Heavely Sword are SO BAD LOOKING, that can't even come miles close to Kameo, a.... launch ... 360 game !!!! So, games made ground up for PS3 then ported to 360 will always look like garbage, that is why ALL developers so far make 360 version first, then cut back for PS3

Assains Creed (Only 360 version shown)

Colin DIRT (months later for PS3)

Splinter Cell 4 (cut back totally)

Oblivion (cut back on texture resolution, AA, HDR)

Enchanted Amrs (i will not describe what was chped off that game for PS3, textures and geometry gone)

and the list will go on until the PS4 and xbox 720

The only version of UT3 that has been shown so far is the PS3 version... or have you missed the latest Teambox article??? It's being built around the PS3 and already looks better than Gears. The PS3 has more power so it will then be ported down to the 360.

The first version of Assassin's creed shown off was a PS3 build... that comes straight from Ubi who's word is greater than your opinion.

Oblivion looks better on the PS3, period. EVERY gaming site agrees so your opinion here is pretty much pointless.

The textures for Enchanted Arms were in tact and the special effects actually tuned up a bit.

Armored Core 4 looked significantly better on the PS3.

College Hoops 2k7 scored higher on the PS3.

And Lair and NGS already looks better than ANYTHING released on the 360, period.

And the list will continue to go on as devs continue to tap into the power of the PS3. They're plateauing on what can be done on the 360, get over it.

Oh yea, and you probably chose to ignore the article last week from lead designer on GTA IV that the decision to release the game simlutaneously on the 360 is actually hindering the progress of the game due to the limitations of the 360.

- You probably forget that no matter how much time they have with UE3.0, the development on 360 will be one step (or a hundred steps) ahead, because they have the engine running on 360 for a year now !!! Far more than on PS3, and frankly yes i missed that teamxbox article, have you got link ? And are you 100% sure they have PS3 pics in it ?

Now, by your post , it is clear now that parallel universes exist

- Are you SURE Enchanted Arms on PS3 looks  ... better ???

I have some comparisson pics here that make it look like a JOKE in textures and lighting

Here you go, ownage #1 below

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=75856

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25601050&msg_id=287696353#287696353

Enchanted Arms :
''clearly evident is a lower frame rate on PS3, fewer visual effects and a distinct paring down of detail - both in graphical effects and geometry. An additional grain effect included in the PS3 version can't disguise the graphical shortcomings.''

Eurogamer said:

"The PS3 genuinely was producing this lacklustre picture"

"...clearly evident is a lower frame rate on PS3"

"...the PS3 version runs slower than the Xbox game"

"...reduced to a slideshow on PS3 "

"...PS3 version can't disguise the graphical shortcoming"

- Oblivion has better AF and some textures on PS3, but that is where it ends, it has no AA, worst HDR, far worst colors, some textures are lower resolution, and there are some worst frame rate drops not due to loading, now how is that ... better is beyond me, at best a tie, and i would give anything for the 360 vivid colors and smooth grass with the AA

- Now to the parallel universe you visited, obviously X06 there was a PS3 show, because the ONLY real time footage we ever saw was in X06 and from 360, it is even in the marketplace and i happen to HAVE IT !!!

- Armored Core 4 looks WAY better on 360, bad for you that i have seen the comparisson videos

- College Hoops ??? Oh THAT scored higher !!! I am happy about that stunning PS3 victory, really

- As for Lair and Heavely Sword, the textures and shaders in Kameo are simply 10x better, same with the REALLY interactive water, the grass/trees, well everything !!!! If you want pics, just tell me, i really would love to own you with pics, but just for ease of use i will direct you to my other thread

Here is ownage #2 below
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25613346&msg_id=288028603#288028603

A small taste here

- For NGS, it looks a bit better than NGBlack on 360, there were like 10 threads on how dissapointing it was, and is far worst than Kameo or Gears too, it is a last gen game, no details etc around, with a next gen coating, nothing more

- Fot GTA you probably missed the part that they say they STRUGGLE to make the game for PS3 too, not only that have problems with the 360 !!! Selective reading anyone ?

- Of course i forgot before Fear with the 10x lower textures and AA on PS3, and Splinter Cell 4, now that was the worst case, shaders totally gone, that takes the crown of downgrade

Here is ownage #3 below
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25537459

Final Words, if Lost Remnant is made for PS3 first, i might as well not buy the game, it will simply look nothing like 360 has set as standard with Kameo, Gears, Viva Pinata, Splinter Cell 4  etc

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]Finally SQUARE-ENIX an ORIGNAL GAME YES!. Not a port, not a remake, not a spinoff an actual NEW GAME! YES!mjarantilla

Hiroshi Takai is directing.

[QUOTE="Sgt_Hale"]

[QUOTE="greg_splicer"]I am sure Square won't dissapoint with Lost Remnant graphics, as with FF13, and they will make 360 version ground up first, with the super textures and shaders for the more 360 ram and better GPU, and only then port to the inferior PS3greg_splicer

Actually the game will be built around the superior PS3 and then ported to the inferior 360... just like UT3. Games built specifically for the PS3 have already proven to be more impressive... particularly when there is a lot of onscreen action. Just get over it.

Just like Colin ? OR assaisns Creed ? We STILL have not seen anything of the PS3 version for those games, BTW when did you see PS3 UT3 pics ? There is NONE !!! And games like Lair and Heavely Sword are SO BAD LOOKING, that can't even come miles close to Kameo, a.... launch ... 360 game !!!! So, games made ground up for PS3 then ported to 360 will always look like garbage, that is why ALL developers so far make 360 version first, then cut back for PS3

Assains Creed (Only 360 version shown)

Colin DIRT (months later for PS3)

Splinter Cell 4 (cut back totally)

Oblivion (cut back on texture resolution, AA, HDR)

Enchanted Amrs (i will not describe what was chped off that game for PS3, textures and geometry gone)

and the list will go on until the PS4 and xbox 720

UT3 was demoed on the PS3 to teamxbox.. 

With that said, and with the lack of a playable Unreal Tournament 3 for the Xbox 360 floating about, we took the time to visit our competition's booth at GDC. Sony's booth was bustling with activity, as those unfamiliar with the PS3 wanted to try out the few demos that the electronics giant had playable in their plush nook of the Moscone Center. One of these playables was, of course, Unreal Tournament 3, but at this time, we'll just call it "Unreal Engine 3.0 Demo" as it was labeled.

If it isn't clear to you yet, we'll spell it out to you in plain terms: this is a hands-on assessment of the PS3 version of Unreal Tournament 3via an Unreal 3.0 tech demo. And no, we haven't forgotten that we are an Xbox site, so don't send us hate mail to remind us. Our bet is that Unreal Tournament 3 for the Xbox 360 will be enough like this demo running on the PS3 to make the fifteen in enemy territory time well spent. 

You guys do realize that this game is developed for both systems at the time. There is no need to downport or to port the game. They will utilize both consoles the best way that they can and I think both versions will look nearly identical. So what's all the fuzz about?

PS: Dear Greg, I don't know what Sony did to you, but when I see you putting so much energy into your crusade against them, I'm sure it has been something very ugly...

At least noone dissagrees that 360 has the very best of all multiplatforms, and games like Colin and Assasins are clearly shown only for 360 so far, meaning PS3 versions could be the rushed ones, making obvious that Lost Remnant would be 10x better if made only for 360greg_splicer

Can you tell me why it could be rushed? When it's developed for both at the same time?

[QUOTE="greg_splicer"]At least noone dissagrees that 360 has the very best of all multiplatforms, and games like Colin and Assasins are clearly shown only for 360 so far, meaning PS3 versions could be the rushed ones, making obvious that Lost Remnant would be 10x better if made only for 360Kreean

Can you tell me why it could be rushed? When it's developed for both at the same time?

PS3 is harder to make the games look like on 360, as obvious by the simple fact that only 360 versions are shown or are ready in most if not all coming games, meaning clearly that after the 360 version is out,and obviously have not got years more to make the PS3 version right, they will definatly have to rush PS3 versions so they are out at some point close to 360 version

For example, Colin for PS3 will come months later, and if they wanted it to come with 360, they would have to cut back everything to make it run on PS3

I am sure Square won't dissapoint with Lost Remnant graphics, as with FF13, and they will make 360 version ground up first, with the super textures and shaders for the more 360 ram and better GPU, and only then port to the inferior PS3greg_splicer

are you feeling okay? lol

[QUOTE="Kreean"]

[QUOTE="greg_splicer"]At least noone dissagrees that 360 has the very best of all multiplatforms, and games like Colin and Assasins are clearly shown only for 360 so far, meaning PS3 versions could be the rushed ones, making obvious that Lost Remnant would be 10x better if made only for 360greg_splicer

Can you tell me why it could be rushed? When it's developed for both at the same time?

PS3 is harder to make the games look like on 360, as obvious by the simple fact that only 360 versions are shown or are ready in most if not all coming games, meaning clearly that after the 360 version is out,and obviously have not got years more to make the PS3 version right, they will definatly have to rush PS3 versions so they are out at some point close to 360 version

For example, Colin for PS3 will come months later, and if they wanted it to come with 360, they would have to cut back everything to make it run on PS3

Greg. If Remnant would be only PS3 and would be ported to the 360 it would look bader. If Remnant would be only X360 and would be ported to the PS3 it would look bader. But the game is developed for both at the same time! So they do have the possiblity to design it with both systems in mind...

So how come Square-Enix didn't make this a PS3 exclusive??x037leox

Because their Marketing divison told them so?

So how come Square-Enix didn't make this a PS3 exclusive??x037leox

The same way they announced FF13 as multiplatform, and they did not say "for PS3" for Star Ocean game, meaning all those games are coming to 360 of course

[QUOTE="x037leox"]So how come Square-Enix didn't make this a PS3 exclusive??greg_splicer

The same way they announced FF13 as multiplatform, and they did not say "for PS3" for Star Ocean game, meaning all those games are coming to 360 of course

When did they announce FF13 as multiplatform?