Latest Sony PS3 firmware has official backdoor

v3.56 will let Sony do what it likes with your account

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I guess sony can really get away with anything.

Why does that article instantly say "homebrew developers". It's clear that 99% of people who hack their PS3 want to cheat or get free games.

Doesn't Sony have a right to protect their developers and their userbase from hackers and theifs?

Even worse this article goes on to talk about how Microsoft let out the drivers for Kinect and used that as a point against Sony. Drivers for hardware are no where the same as custom frimeware and hacking of the OS to bypass security.

yeah, sony has been all about abusing your back door this entire gen. 8)

Why does that article instantly say "homebrew developers". It's clear that 99% of people who hack their PS3 want to cheat or get free games.

Doesn't Sony have a right to protect their developers and their userbase from hackers and theifs?

Even worse this article goes on to talk about how Microsoft let out the drivers for Kinect and used that as a point against Sony. Drivers for hardware are no where the same as custom frimeware and hacking of the OS to bypass security.

Wasdie

Yeah, if this means I can actually play Uncharted 3 multiplayer without hackers all the time, then it makes sense to me :P.

dont start nothin.. wont be nothin

Microsoft has been doing this for a while, we'll see how well it goes for Sony.

They're finally doing what Microsoft has always done. Good way to monitor game cheats and pirating. About time I say.

sony can do whatever they want to my account as its clean and legit and hack freecampzor

This. Unless you're toeing the line (or just downright doing the wrong thing), you have nothing to worry about. I don't care if toeing the line is legal, if you want to give it a shot, don't be upset if you have to face consequences.

If you play with fire....

You just might get burnt.

YEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!

Well, typically, I'm not as worried about Sony having this access, but rather the risk that hackers get their hands on this feature in order to access anyone's console freely.

Maybe I'm being paranoid, but with all this talk about homebrew, I'm sure someone out there is gonna see if they can do it.

Hang on shouldn't they have had this all along? am I reading this wrong or they just including a feature xbox live and steam already use? a feature I actually like because I play fair and I think cheaters/hackers should be banned.

if the backdoor is a method of getting rid of hackers in CoD 4 GOOD.

Anyone saying oh teh blasphemy or that its wrong hasnt touched that game since patching its god awful and makes me want to quite literally murder kittens in an effort to make them go away.

Till then i'll just merrily play halo reach as my main online FPS or god forbid i have money tomorrow after my theory test i will just buy MW2 or CoD4 for 360 if i see it for around £10.

Why does that article instantly say "homebrew developers". It's clear that 99% of people who hack their PS3 want to cheat or get free games.

Doesn't Sony have a right to protect their developers and their userbase from hackers and theifs?

Even worse this article goes on to talk about how Microsoft let out the drivers for Kinect and used that as a point against Sony. Drivers for hardware are no where the same as custom frimeware and hacking of the OS to bypass security.

Wasdie

Why does that article instantly say "homebrew developers". It's clear that 99% of people who hack their PS3 want to cheat or get free games.

Doesn't Sony have a right to protect their developers and their userbase from hackers and theifs?

Even worse this article goes on to talk about how Microsoft let out the drivers for Kinect and used that as a point against Sony. Drivers for hardware are no where the same as custom frimeware and hacking of the OS to bypass security.

Wasdie

sony can do whatever they want to my account as its clean and legit and hack freecampzor

if the backdoor is a method of getting rid of hackers in CoD 4 GOOD.

Anyone saying oh teh blasphemy or that its wrong hasnt touched that game since patching its god awful and makes me want to quite literally murder kittens in an effort to make them go away.

Till then i'll just merrily play halo reach as my main online FPS or god forbid i have money tomorrow after my theory test i will just buy MW2 or CoD4 for 360 if i see it for around £10.

razgriz_101

I would get black ops(used of course - in your face activision) but I dont know if the server issues have been fixed

I wold remedy this by getting the games on y xbox but, I wont pay live and even if I did my xbox red ringed last week so......... up the creek

Lol. It's nice to know that some things never change. That no matter what Sony does, it is horrible and bad and abuse of their customers, but if MS does the exact same thing it is a great thing for customers and shows they care.

Wow.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Why does that article instantly say "homebrew developers". It's clear that 99% of people who hack their PS3 want to cheat or get free games.

Doesn't Sony have a right to protect their developers and their userbase from hackers and theifs?

Even worse this article goes on to talk about how Microsoft let out the drivers for Kinect and used that as a point against Sony. Drivers for hardware are no where the same as custom frimeware and hacking of the OS to bypass security.

themyth01

The 99% number seems pretty accurate to me. "Homebrew developers" my a**. It's kids that want to hack FPS and to steal games, and anyone else is a statistical anomaly.

The 99% number seems pretty accurate to me. "Homebrew developers" my a**. It's kids that want to hack FPS and to steal games, and anyone else is a statistical anomaly.

Dire_Weasel

According to what, your rampant imagination?

[QUOTE="Dire_Weasel"]

The 99% number seems pretty accurate to me. "Homebrew developers" my a**. It's kids that want to hack FPS and to steal games, and anyone else is a statistical anomaly.

Brownesque

According to what, your rampant imagination?

if you've been on CoD lately you would more likely get the gist of it.People use the homebrew as an excuse for everything bad that is actuall going to and is happening.Its amazing how quickly after the CFW CoD was targeted aswell and pretty much shows why this CFW stuff is more of a negative for everyone.

It will most likely lead to archaic DRM, games having to be patched and then comes the endless stream of FWs by sony aswell as trophy tampering that is pretty much assured to arise out all this aswell.

CFW could potentially be a catastrophic hit for Sony and the average consumer who's going to inevitably feel the wrath of FW's and DRM cause some little kid spat the dummy quite literally and opened the flood gates for everything people DONT wont...oh but its all in the name of homebrew....pathetic.

[QUOTE="Dire_Weasel"]

The 99% number seems pretty accurate to me. "Homebrew developers" my a**. It's kids that want to hack FPS and to steal games, and anyone else is a statistical anomaly.

Brownesque

According to what, your rampant imagination?

[QUOTE="Dire_Weasel"]

The 99% number seems pretty accurate to me. "Homebrew developers" my a**. It's kids that want to hack FPS and to steal games, and anyone else is a statistical anomaly.

Brownesque

According to what, your rampant imagination?

This is where you prove to me that more than 1% of the users of the PS3 hacked firmware are using it to develop homebrew software. Good luck!

Unless it's supported with restrictions, I don't see a way for CFW to be handled responsibly so I support what Sony's doing. I could care less what entitlement I'm supposed to have when I'm having to deal with pirates and cheaters in the future.

[QUOTE="Brownesque"]

[QUOTE="Dire_Weasel"]

The 99% number seems pretty accurate to me. "Homebrew developers" my a**. It's kids that want to hack FPS and to steal games, and anyone else is a statistical anomaly.

razgriz_101

According to what, your rampant imagination?

if you've been on CoD lately you would more likely get the gist of it.People use the homebrew as an excuse for everything bad that is actuall going to and is happening.Its amazing how quickly after the CFW CoD was targeted aswell and pretty much shows why this CFW stuff is more of a negative for everyone.

It will most likely lead to archaic DRM, games having to be patched and then comes the endless stream of FWs by sony aswell as trophy tampering that is pretty much assured to arise out all this aswell.

CFW could potentially be a catastrophic hit for Sony and the average consumer who's going to inevitably feel the wrath of FW's and DRM cause some little kid spat the dummy quite literally and opened the flood gates for everything people DONT wont...oh but its all in the name of homebrew....pathetic.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27560832

Doesn't make your "99%" figure any more supported. I see plenty of trolls on the internet, doesn't mean 99% of all people on the internet are trolls.

PS, it isn't Geohot's fault that Sony is putting down the clamp, or that developers decide to use "archaic DRM," Sony installs a backdoor to your console, or any other protective measure they make, it's 100% the fault of the people that do that. Likewise, it isn't homebrewer's fault that people hack your games or pirate games, unless those homebrewers happen to be hackers/pirates.

Leave it to a good corporatist consumer to excuse any excessive protective measure from a company, no matter how invasive or how it erodes your rights as a consumer, as long as it keeps someone from hacking a PS3 to use OtherOS.

[QUOTE="Brownesque"]

[QUOTE="Dire_Weasel"]

The 99% number seems pretty accurate to me. "Homebrew developers" my a**. It's kids that want to hack FPS and to steal games, and anyone else is a statistical anomaly.

Dire_Weasel

According to what, your rampant imagination?

This is where you prove to me that more than 1% of the users of the PS3 hacked firmware are using it to develop homebrew software. Good luck!

Really, because I thought the burden of proof was upon the claimant. Maybe you can show me where I said >1% of the hackers are using it for homebrew?

Let's get down to some basic debate skills, shall we?

The positive claim: 99% of all hackers are aimbotters and pirates

The negation: (not) ""

And seeing as you can't prove a negative, the burden of proof is not on me just for asking you to prove your ridiculous claim. I'm quite content to say not a single detail has been established on that matter, even if you happen to prefer the art of handwaving to make up imaginary details about a situation you know nothing about.

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="Brownesque"]

According to what, your rampant imagination?

Brownesque

if you've been on CoD lately you would more likely get the gist of it.People use the homebrew as an excuse for everything bad that is actuall going to and is happening.Its amazing how quickly after the CFW CoD was targeted aswell and pretty much shows why this CFW stuff is more of a negative for everyone.

It will most likely lead to archaic DRM, games having to be patched and then comes the endless stream of FWs by sony aswell as trophy tampering that is pretty much assured to arise out all this aswell.

CFW could potentially be a catastrophic hit for Sony and the average consumer who's going to inevitably feel the wrath of FW's and DRM cause some little kid spat the dummy quite literally and opened the flood gates for everything people DONT wont...oh but its all in the name of homebrew....pathetic.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27560832

Doesn't make your "99%" figure any more supported. I see plenty of trolls on the internet, doesn't mean 99% of all people on the internet are trolls.

PS, it isn't Geohot's fault that Sony is putting down the clamp, or that developers decide to use "archaic DRM," Sony installs a backdoor to your console, or any other protective measure they make, it's 100% the fault of the people that do that. Likewise, it isn't homebrewer's fault that people hack your games or pirate games, unless those homebrewers happen to be hackers/pirates.

Leave it to a good corporatist consumer to excuse any excessive protective measure from a company, no matter how invasive or how it erodes your rights as a consumer, as long as it keeps someone from hacking a PS3 to use OtherOS.

You are sir, are naive if you honestly believe that it isn't directly Geohotz fault that Sony is implementing such measures. None of this would have happened if it wasn't for Geohotz releasing his code/CFW. He may be against piracy but he's also a complete moron for thinking that Sony wouldn't strike back at the hackers and pirates; it all leads back to him, bad intentions or not.

And I'm pretty sure my rights as a consumer also entails me and other 'honest' gamers to properly funtioning software. You act as though Sony is going to steal you credit card number and social security number with their "invasive" tactics.

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="Brownesque"]

According to what, your rampant imagination?

Brownesque

if you've been on CoD lately you would more likely get the gist of it.People use the homebrew as an excuse for everything bad that is actuall going to and is happening.Its amazing how quickly after the CFW CoD was targeted aswell and pretty much shows why this CFW stuff is more of a negative for everyone.

It will most likely lead to archaic DRM, games having to be patched and then comes the endless stream of FWs by sony aswell as trophy tampering that is pretty much assured to arise out all this aswell.

CFW could potentially be a catastrophic hit for Sony and the average consumer who's going to inevitably feel the wrath of FW's and DRM cause some little kid spat the dummy quite literally and opened the flood gates for everything people DONT wont...oh but its all in the name of homebrew....pathetic.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27560832

Doesn't make your "99%" figure any more supported. I see plenty of trolls on the internet, doesn't mean 99% of all people on the internet are trolls.

PS, it isn't Geohot's fault that Sony is putting down the clamp, or that developers decide to use "archaic DRM," Sony installs a backdoor to your console, or any other protective measure they make, it's 100% the fault of the people that do that. Likewise, it isn't homebrewer's fault that people hack your games or pirate games, unless those homebrewers happen to be hackers/pirates.

Leave it to a good corporatist consumer to excuse any excessive protective measure from a company, no matter how invasive or how it erodes your rights as a consumer, as long as it keeps someone from hacking a PS3 to use OtherOS.

are you serious, are you seriously defending people who say they hacked their ps3 for "homebrew" and your saying sony is in the wrong here? I can't play call of duty modern warfare 2 because its hacked to holy crap right now, Also that homebrew excuse is B.S, use your common sense here, you know full well people are going to pirate games mostly sure their may be people who only want to use it for homebrew but come on, think about it. How is this invasive or erodes my rights also? If my games are keep being hacked and people are messing with my experience, i expect damn well for the company to do something about it, which sony is doing. Also, if your not hacking or running custom firmware on it, then you have nothing to worry about and this doesn't affect you, so either you hacked your system and are getting all defensive about it or you have this mentality that the big bad company is trying to tell me what to do.

[QUOTE="Dire_Weasel"]

[QUOTE="Brownesque"]

According to what, your rampant imagination?

Brownesque

This is where you prove to me that more than 1% of the users of the PS3 hacked firmware are using it to develop homebrew software. Good luck!

Really, because I thought the burden of proof was upon the claimant. Maybe you can show me where I said >1% of the hackers are using it for homebrew?

Let's get down to some basic debate skills, shall we?

The positive claim: 99% of all hackers are aimbotters and pirates

The negation: (not) ""

And seeing as you can't prove a negative, the burden of proof is not on me just for asking you to prove your ridiculous claim. I'm quite content to say not a single detail has been established on that matter, even if you happen to prefer the art of handwaving to make up imaginary details about a situation you know nothing about.

That's definitely the first time someone's ever used their high school debate team skills on a gaming forum. Well done, sir! Maybe you could explain to me what the "Ad Hominem" fallacy is, I could never quite understand that.

So, we agree then ... less than 1% of those using the hacked PS3 firmware are using it for homebrew software development? And the rest are using it for something else?

Let them, i don't mind. as a legit gamer i say you DESERVE whatever sony does to your console if you hack it for the sake of cheating and piracy.dvalo9

Why does that article instantly say "homebrew developers". It's clear that 99% of people who hack their PS3 want to cheat or get free games.

Doesn't Sony have a right to protect their developers and their userbase from hackers and theifs?

Even worse this article goes on to talk about how Microsoft let out the drivers for Kinect and used that as a point against Sony. Drivers for hardware are no where the same as custom frimeware and hacking of the OS to bypass security.

Wasdie

[QUOTE="dvalo9"]Let them, i don't mind. as a legit gamer i say you DESERVE whatever sony does to your console if you hack it for the sake of cheating and piracy.themyth01

[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="dvalo9"]Let them, i don't mind. as a legit gamer i say you DESERVE whatever sony does to your console if you hack it for the sake of cheating and piracy.-ArchAngeL-777-

[QUOTE="Brownesque"]

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

if you've been on CoD lately you would more likely get the gist of it.People use the homebrew as an excuse for everything bad that is actuall going to and is happening.Its amazing how quickly after the CFW CoD was targeted aswell and pretty much shows why this CFW stuff is more of a negative for everyone.

It will most likely lead to archaic DRM, games having to be patched and then comes the endless stream of FWs by sony aswell as trophy tampering that is pretty much assured to arise out all this aswell.

CFW could potentially be a catastrophic hit for Sony and the average consumer who's going to inevitably feel the wrath of FW's and DRM cause some little kid spat the dummy quite literally and opened the flood gates for everything people DONT wont...oh but its all in the name of homebrew....pathetic.

Chris_Williams

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27560832

Doesn't make your "99%" figure any more supported. I see plenty of trolls on the internet, doesn't mean 99% of all people on the internet are trolls.

PS, it isn't Geohot's fault that Sony is putting down the clamp, or that developers decide to use "archaic DRM," Sony installs a backdoor to your console, or any other protective measure they make, it's 100% the fault of the people that do that. Likewise, it isn't homebrewer's fault that people hack your games or pirate games, unless those homebrewers happen to be hackers/pirates.

Leave it to a good corporatist consumer to excuse any excessive protective measure from a company, no matter how invasive or how it erodes your rights as a consumer, as long as it keeps someone from hacking a PS3 to use OtherOS.

are you serious, are you seriously defending people who say they hacked their ps3 for "homebrew" and your saying sony is in the wrong here? I can't play call of duty modern warfare 2 because its hacked to holy crap right now, Also that homebrew excuse is B.S, use your common sense here, you know full well people are going to pirate games mostly sure their may be people who only want to use it for homebrew but come on, think about it. How is this invasive or erodes my rights also? If my games are keep being hacked and people are messing with my experience, i expect damn well for the company to do something about it, which sony is doing. Also, if your not hacking or running custom firmware on it, then you have nothing to worry about and this doesn't affect you, so either you hacked your system and are getting all defensive about it or you have this mentality that the big bad company is trying to tell me what to do.

are you serious, are you seriously defending people who say they hacked their ps3 for "homebrew" and your saying sony is in the wrong here? I can't play call of duty modern warfare 2 because its hacked to holy crap right now, Also that homebrew excuse is B.S, use your common sense here, you know full well people are going to pirate games mostly sure their may be people who only want to use it for homebrew but come on, think about it. How is this invasive or erodes my rights also? If my games are keep being hacked and people are messing with my experience, i expect damn well for the company to do something about it, which sony is doing. Also, if your not hacking or running custom firmware on it, then you have nothing to worry about and this doesn't affect you, so either you hacked your system and are getting all defensive about it or you have this mentality that the big bad company is trying to tell me what to do.

Chris_Williams

No, I'm not hacking, and I didn't put any malicious code on anyone else's machine.

Sony, however:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SecuROM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootkit_scandal

Just little angels.

I just happen to be advocating consumer rights. You're advocating the right of a corporation to rid you of your property rights for the sake of some intangible "experience," which could just as easily be fixed by adding a "voteban" function.

Consumer rights? You mean the rights to steal games and break them so that you can have an unfair advantage?

I'm completely fine with this. I will never do anything illegal with my PS3, such as "homebrew," so it does not affect me. They have a right to protect THEIR property, and as long as it doesn't interfere with the games and movie I purchase for it I see nothing wrong here.

then again hackers are going to stay on 3.55SunnySAY87

[QUOTE="SunnySAY87"]then again hackers are going to stay on 3.55lhughey

They don't have to "solve" it, they just have to minimize the impact on game developers and gamers without disrupting their entire userbase.

Consumer rights? You mean the rights to steal games and break them so that you can have an unfair advantage?

Wasdie

Consumer rights? You mean the rights to steal games and break them so that you can have an unfair advantage?

Wasdie

Voteban existed since before I was born.

OMG the outrage!

Now the people who ruin my online games with cheats and invincibility can be punished! Don't want that!

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Consumer rights? You mean the rights to steal games and break them so that you can have an unfair advantage?

Brownesque

However in attempt to "use" your hardware you open the floodgates for massive amounts of pirating.

Most people use these hacks to simply pirate games and Sony has every right to protect their game developers. So while you're fighting for the rights of a tiny amount of people who may use the rooted systems for development, the majority will use it for illegal hacking and pirating of software.

If you're in this position, you would be crazy to allow such a blatant breech of security go.

If you really want to develop for something, why don't you get yourself some cheap PC and put linux on that? Jailbreaking may be "legal" but it's uses are largely illegal. This is more of a legal gray area that Sony should beable to block out or somehow control.