LBP =/= innovation

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#1 tmatte
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I will start my thesis by containing no evidence of my post, and wait until somebody counter attacks. :D
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First user-generated contentconsole game.
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#3 Greyhound222
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Gmod.
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#4 SillyManimal
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I will start my thesis by containing no evidence of my post, and wait until somebody counter attacks. :Dtmatte

LBP = innovation

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Name one other Physics based sidescroller
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#6 Tamarind_Face
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This thread fails.
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Name one other Physics based sidescrollerda1on2
Ragdoll Kung Fu, Steam game.
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#8 tmatte
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Name one other Physics based sidescrollerda1on2

First, I'd like to say thanks greyhound. And who cares if its a sidescroller? I can do all of this stuff in Garry's Mod with an extra dimension.

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#9 Greyhound222
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Wait a second,I don't know much about this game,but is it really even a game? Is it like making your own enemies and bosses and vehicles or something like "I made a moving wheel! WOOT!"
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[QUOTE="da1on2"]Name one other Physics based sidescrollerVandalvideo
Ragdoll Kung Fu, Steam game.

I have that game. Original and incredible for a game developed by only one person. But it's still not that good.

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Wait a second,I don't know much about this game,but is it really even a game? Is it like making your own enemies and bosses and vehicles or something like "I made a moving wheel! WOOT!"Greyhound222
Sure is. They had a game like this way back on the PC in like 93 or 94 where you could build your own puzzle levels and have chibi animals solve the puzzles. It was super fun. I think this is an extension of this idea.
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[QUOTE="da1on2"]Name one other Physics based sidescrollertmatte

First, I'd like to say thanks greyhound. And who cares if its a sidescroller? I can do all of this stuff in Garry's Mod with an extra dimension.

Thank you.Also,Loco Roco is physics based.
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#14 tmatte
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="da1on2"]Name one other Physics based sidescrollermanningbowl135

Ragdoll Kung Fu, Steam game.

I have that game. Original and incredible for a game developed by only one person. But it's still not that good.

Yeah, it's not that great, but he answered the other's question.

And to all of those flaming, please prove how the games innovative.

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#15 Kinitari
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For arguments sake - lets say LBP isn't innovative. Then what?
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Wait a second,I don't know much about this game,but is it really even a game? Is it like making your own enemies and bosses and vehicles or something like "I made a moving wheel! WOOT!"Greyhound222

its like GMOD but as a sidescroller....and without the more advanced features....and no gravity gun.

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[QUOTE="da1on2"]Name one other Physics based sidescrollerVandalvideo
Ragdoll Kung Fu, Steam game.

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#18 tmatte
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For arguments sake - lets say LBP isn't innovative. Then what?Kinitari

Then wait for a counter argument and THEN list reasons why it isn't.

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[QUOTE="da1on2"]Name one other Physics based sidescrollertmatte

First, I'd like to say thanks greyhound. And who cares if its a sidescroller? I can do all of this stuff in Garry's Mod with an extra dimension.

Thats like saying 2D and 3D fighters are the same

Plus LBP's creation looks fun, GMod looks tedius

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#20 A_Gamerz_soul
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I will start my thesis by containing no evidence of my post, and wait until somebody counter attacks. :Dtmatte

I can give you all the gaming website professionals that think otherwise and cant wait for this game.
Owned

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#21 wavebrid
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that dosent belong togather at all sorry :|

its only a game.

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#22 tmatte
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[QUOTE="tmatte"]

[QUOTE="da1on2"]Name one other Physics based sidescrollerda1on2

First, I'd like to say thanks greyhound. And who cares if its a sidescroller? I can do all of this stuff in Garry's Mod with an extra dimension.

Thats like saying 2D and 3D fighters are the same

Plus LBP's creation looks fun, GMod looks tedius

Note the word looks.

And Greyhound listed 2 physics based sidescrollers.

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#23 SpruceCaboose
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Uh...I was unaware that it was out and people here have played it already.
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The company/person who made Ragdoll Kung Fu is the same as the company/person who is making LittleBigPlanet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Healey

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[QUOTE="Greyhound222"]Wait a second,I don't know much about this game,but is it really even a game? Is it like making your own enemies and bosses and vehicles or something like "I made a moving wheel! WOOT!"cobrax25

its like GMOD but as a sidescroller....and without the more advanced features....and no gravity gun.

I see.But HL2 can still do quirky sidescrollers! http://mods.moddb.com/9366/flipside/ Oh yeah,and I can mod that too!
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The company/person who made Ragdoll Kung Fu is the same as the company/person who is making LittleBigPlanet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Healey

KoreanX
Cool.It's just that it's on PS3 that it magically becomes "Innovative!". Ragdoll Kung Fu was innovative.
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[QUOTE="tmatte"]I will start my thesis by containing no evidence of my post, and wait until somebody counter attacks. :DA_Gamerz_soul

I can give you all the gaming website professionals that think otherwise and cant wait for this game.
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Yes so the opinion of a few game reviewers make my argument obsolete. :|

I just got system wars logic'd.

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The company/person who made Ragdoll Kung Fu is the same as the company/person who is making LittleBigPlanet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Healey

KoreanX

Thank god someone said it... people are bashing this game on a regular basis now even though the previews and demonstrations almost made me cry out of joy. This game is innovation... and I don't even need to defend that because deep down everyone who says otherwise knows it to be true.

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[QUOTE="A_Gamerz_soul"]

[QUOTE="tmatte"]I will start my thesis by containing no evidence of my post, and wait until somebody counter attacks. :Dtmatte

I can give you all the gaming website professionals that think otherwise and cant wait for this game.
Owned

Yes so the opinion of a few game reviewers make my argument obsolete. :|

I just got system wars logic'd.

Owned! /sarcasm.
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[QUOTE="cobrax25"]

[QUOTE="Greyhound222"]Wait a second,I don't know much about this game,but is it really even a game? Is it like making your own enemies and bosses and vehicles or something like "I made a moving wheel! WOOT!"Greyhound222

its like GMOD but as a sidescroller....and without the more advanced features....and no gravity gun.

I see.But HL2 can still do quirky sidescrollers! http://mods.moddb.com/9366/flipside/ Oh yeah,and I can mod that too!

Im pretty sure that the Source engine can do anything you want it to do....seeing a sidescroler mode for a source engine game doesnt surprise me at all....such an excellent engine.

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[QUOTE="KoreanX"]

The company/person who made Ragdoll Kung Fu is the same as the company/person who is making LittleBigPlanet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Healey

lazurusKfP

Thank god someone said it... people are bashing this game on a regular basis now even though the previews and demonstrations almost made me cry out of joy. This game is innovation... and I don't even need to defend that because deep down everyone who says otherwise knows it to be true.

This game does look incredibly good, but I wouldn't necessarily call it innovation. Its been done before in some form or fashion. If I could remember that one game from 93 or 94 for the PC thats almost exactly like Little Big Planet that would help alot. I'm definitely buying this game though.
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This thread fails.Tamarind_Face
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This thread fails.Tamarind_Face
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[QUOTE="KoreanX"]

The company/person who made Ragdoll Kung Fu is the same as the company/person who is making LittleBigPlanet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Healey

Greyhound222

Cool.It's just that it's on PS3 that it magically becomes "Innovative!". Ragdoll Kung Fu was innovative.

It's not innovaative, happy?

Now with that said it looks like alot more fun than GMod

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[QUOTE="KoreanX"]

The company/person who made Ragdoll Kung Fu is the same as the company/person who is making LittleBigPlanet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Healey

lazurusKfP

Thank god someone said it... people are bashing this game on a regular basis now even though the previews and demonstrations almost made me cry out of joy. This game is innovation... and I don't even need to defend that because deep down everyone who says otherwise knows it to be true.

Ok.. I think Rag Doll Kung Fu was more innovative... because it is! I mean, it just screams innovation, I don't even need to list my reasons with proof.

Haters owned. :P

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#36 archpro
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[QUOTE="da1on2"]Name one other Physics based sidescrollerVandalvideo
Ragdoll Kung Fu, Steam game.

wasn't that made by media molecule(same devs of LBP).

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[QUOTE="Greyhound222"][QUOTE="KoreanX"]

The company/person who made Ragdoll Kung Fu is the same as the company/person who is making LittleBigPlanet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Healey

da1on2

Cool.It's just that it's on PS3 that it magically becomes "Innovative!". Ragdoll Kung Fu was innovative.

It's not innovaative, happy?

Now with that said it looks like alot more fun than GMod

Yay! PS.It doesn't help if you compare a retail game to a free mod.Also,LBP is severely limited compred to Gmod.
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[QUOTE="Greyhound222"][QUOTE="KoreanX"]

The company/person who made Ragdoll Kung Fu is the same as the company/person who is making LittleBigPlanet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Healey

da1on2

Cool.It's just that it's on PS3 that it magically becomes "Innovative!". Ragdoll Kung Fu was innovative.

It's not innovaative, happy?

Now with that said it looks like alot more fun than GMod

I doubt it.....I would easily pay full price for GMOD....luckily the older versions are free.

GMOD gives you the ability to do things way more advanded then those in LBP.

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[QUOTE="KoreanX"]

The company/person who made Ragdoll Kung Fu is the same as the company/person who is making LittleBigPlanet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Healey

Greyhound222

Cool.It's just that it's on PS3 that it magically becomes "Innovative!". Ragdoll Kung Fu was innovative.

It's the other way around, some people(noobs) think anything on Wii is "magically innovative", no matter how bad the graphics are, and no matter how imprecise the control is.

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#40 Doomshine
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What about the built in interface that let's you upload your levels, has that been done before?
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What about the built in interface that let's you upload your levels, has that been done before?Doomshine

so many times (at least on the PC)

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What about the built in interface that let's you upload your levels, has that been done before?Doomshine
Ummm,yes,for lots of free games such as Soldat(Google it,you won't be sorry).And in Elebits and Dewy's Adventure you can trade levels.
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What about the built in interface that let's you upload your levels, has that been done before?Doomshine

In GMOD, you can upload your saved games within Garrys Mod . org and share them with others. A bbit less user friendly, but it still was done.

I'm actually looking forward to this game, as I love making levels, but I hate it when people blindly throw around the word innovation when most of this stuff has been done before.

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#44 Greyhound222
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[QUOTE="Greyhound222"][QUOTE="KoreanX"]

The company/person who made Ragdoll Kung Fu is the same as the company/person who is making LittleBigPlanet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Healey

WalterPaladines

Cool.It's just that it's on PS3 that it magically becomes "Innovative!". Ragdoll Kung Fu was innovative.

You're confused, some people(noobs) think anything on Wii is "magically innovative", no matter how bad the graphics are, and no matter how imprecise the control is.

Yes,because we were all talking about the Wii and Gmod on the Wii.
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[QUOTE="Doomshine"]What about the built in interface that let's you upload your levels, has that been done before?cobrax25

so many times (at least on the PC)

Yup, and the core concept of LBP has beend one on the PC as well back in 93 or 94. God I wish I could remember its name, it was so fun. Do you know that one game where you had animal avatars and it was all 2D and you and your riends could build levels with pulleys, magnets, dumbells, weights, and all this crazy puzzle stuff? I loved that game.
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#46 Greyhound222
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[QUOTE="cobrax25"]

[QUOTE="Doomshine"]What about the built in interface that let's you upload your levels, has that been done before?Vandalvideo

so many times (at least on the PC)

Yup, and the core concept of LBP has beend one on the PC as well back in 93 or 94. God I wish I could remember its name, it was so fun. Do you know that one game where you had animal avatars and it was all 2D and you and your riends could build levels with pulleys, magnets, dumbells, weights, and all this crazy puzzle stuff? I loved that game.

No,but I hope you remember as it might be abandonware or freeware now.
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#47 Finale-
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There sure has been a lot of LBP bashing the last couple of days.
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[QUOTE="Doomshine"]What about the built in interface that let's you upload your levels, has that been done before?Greyhound222
Ummm,yes,for lots of free games such as Soldat(Google it,you won't be sorry).And in Elebits and Dewy's Adventure you can trade levels.

Ah of course, I forgot about Soldat.

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#49 EPaul
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U guys are really hating on LBP, i know Gmod may be more advanced but thats on the PC and its not very mainstream.While LBP is on a console and is easy to use making accessible to casual players.
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[QUOTE="Greyhound222"][QUOTE="Doomshine"]What about the built in interface that let's you upload your levels, has that been done before?Doomshine

Ummm,yes,for lots of free games such as Soldat(Google it,you won't be sorry).And in Elebits and Dewy's Adventure you can trade levels.

Ah of course, I forgot about Soldat.

Great game.BTW,have we come to a conclusion about LBP? OT,but WTH is up with your avvy?