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#1 Mystic-G
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Hardware Overview

  • Quad Core-Based CPU [512kb L1 cache] [2MB L2 cache] [3.0Ghz Operating Frequency]
  • Modified-Nvidia GTX 460 Graphics Processor [core clock 725Mhz] [shader clock 1450Mhz] [Steam Processors 336] [VRAM 768MB]
  • 4096MB DDR3 RAM [Clock speed 1333MHz]
  • Detachable and upgradeable 320 GB Hard Drive [8 MB cache]
  • 16X Dual-Layer DVD Optical Drive [Access Time 140 ms] [2 MB cache]
  • 4X USB 2.0 Ports
  • 64-bit audio processing
  • Vertical system orientation

New Features

  • Subscription Fees are scrapped to play online
  • To allow option community customizable features for games. (If game developers allow it)
  • Looking to allow cheaper standard for new released games
  • Digital download service is expanded for full library
  • Windows OS UI with web browser
  • Looking to allow more verstile hardware for optional SKU packages
  • New Direct 11 API
  • Aiming for $599 MSRP price point
  • Expansive backwards compatibility


Source

I suspect there will be a lot of gloating going on now from Microsoft gamers now. 8) It's gonna take a lot of effort to top all that.

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#2 Bus-A-Bus
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Fake.

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#3 Led_poison
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Its a trap
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#4 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Impractical, and most definitely fake--the power consumption and heat generation would be far too much for a little white box to handle. And people complain about the power brick now? Can you imagine what it would look like for those specs?

Edit: Hehe. Helps to check link. :P

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#5 Zero_epyon
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Wishful thinking. Not leak.

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#6 Ravensmash
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...and I don't get the point you're trying to make...

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#7 Bigboi500
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$599? This again? Pass.

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#8 bobbetybob
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Did we really need another PC gaming is good thread, NOBODY CARES.
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#9 marklarmer
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  • Subscription Fees are scrapped to play online

Mystic-G

funnily enough it was that part which made me suspect this might be fake, more than the actual system specs.

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#10 SUD123456
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I'll bite :)

The NextBox will be much more powerful than those specs. As will the PS4.

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#11 Mystic-G
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...and I don't get the point you're trying to make...

Ravensmash

Well... It's in reference to the ones who claim how on par console gaming is to PC gaming. Had a console come with all that, one side would gloat extremely hard, always claiming best over every multiplat game they received. And yet it's taboo for PC gamers to mention how much more versatile the platform is and what we're able to do when it comes to game discussion.

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#12 skektek
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Hardware Overview

  • Quad Core-Based CPU [512kb L1 cache] [2MB L2 cache] [3.0Ghz Operating Frequency]
  • Modified-Nvidia GTX 460 Graphics Processor [core clock 725Mhz] [shader clock 1450Mhz] [Steam Processors 336] [VRAM 768MB]
  • 4096MB DDR3 RAM [Clock speed 1333MHz]
  • Detachable and upgradeable 320 GB Hard Drive [8 MB cache]
  • 16X Dual-Layer DVD Optical Drive [Access Time 140 ms] [2 MB cache]
  • 4X USB 2.0 Ports
  • 64-bit audio processing
  • Vertical system orientation

New Features

  • Subscription Fees are scrapped to play online
  • To allow option community customizable features for games. (If game developers allow it)
  • Looking to allow cheaper standard for new released games
  • Digital download service is expanded for full library
  • Windows OS UI with web browser
  • Looking to allow more verstile hardware for optional SKU packages
  • New Direct 11 API
  • Aiming for $599 MSRP price point
  • Expansive backwards compatibility


Source

I suspect there will be a lot of gloating going on now from Microsoft gamers now. 8) It's gonna take a lot of effort to top all that.

Mystic-G

I found a picture:

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#13 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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I'll bite :)

The NextBox will be much more powerful than those specs. As will the PS4.

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If they manage to pull that off with practical power consumptions, and heat... I will be very impressed.
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Can't be real because its not a big enough jump... from 3 core to 4 core only? a modified 460? not a 480? only 4 gb ram?? Ram is cheap. DVD rom still? Doubtful.

Those specs match todays mid range PC specs, in 2 years when its released it will be equivalent to a low end PC. Those aren't real at all.

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"Subscription Fees are scrapped to play online" Can't be true. As if MS would just say No to all that juicy profit. That makes about as much sense as Nintendo making a good online system :P
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#16 SaltyMeatballs
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So wait, PC is more powerful than consoles?
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#17 Truth_Hurts_U
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Would be horrible specs if that was even remotely true.

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Can't be real because its not a big enough jump... from 3 core to 4 core only? a modified 460? not a 480? only 4 gb ram?? Ram is cheap. DVD rom still? Doubtful.

Those specs match todays mid range PC specs, in 2 years when its released it will be equivalent to a low end PC. Those aren't real at all.

Phazevariance
GTX... 480? In consoles... Have we all forgotten the power consumption, heat, and complexity of the high-end enthusiast graphics cards?
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#19 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Would be horrible specs if that was even remotely true.

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Is... that a joke? :?
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#20 Truth_Hurts_U
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Is... that a joke? :?Stevo_the_gamer

In 2013 them specs would be dinosaur's meets meteor.

For one that processor lack of cache is LOL. 2.5MB? yeah...

4 GB of slow ram? That's what system RAM runs at not video memory.

DVD? LOL... Seriously?

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#21 gamer620
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Why is that so hard to believe? Sony does it now with a premium model attached beyond it. If Microsoft wants to compete next gen online, they will need a free to play option.
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DVD? Why not just CD or Floppy disk?

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#23 15strong
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]

...and I don't get the point you're trying to make...

Mystic-G

Well... It's in reference to the ones who claim how on par console gaming is to PC gaming. Had a console come with all that, one side would gloat extremely hard, always claiming best over every multiplat game they received. And yet it's taboo for PC gamers to mention how much more versatile the platform is and what we're able to do when it comes to game discussion.

You could make a strong argument that consoles are equal to pc when it comes to software. And that is all that really matters. What is the point to having all this power when nobody is utilizing it?

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#24 Kashiwaba
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I don't but everything there screams FAKE!

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#25 04dcarraher
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It's fake, because of the fact that MS went to AMD for their APU tech (AMD Fusion 2) for their next console...

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#26 Kashiwaba
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DVD? Why not just CD or Floppy disk?

Pray_to_me

With 320 GB tney could easily follow PC style (Install all your games).

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enjoy your vacation
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Is... that a joke? :?Truth_Hurts_U

In 2013 them specs would be dinosaur's meets meteor.

For one that processor lack of cache is LOL. 2.5MB? yeah...

4 GB of slow ram? That's what system RAM runs at not video memory.

DVD? LOL... Seriously?

Its not the raw power or hardware age that matters. Its the material cost of the components. GTX 460 is a large graphics card, generally meaning the material and manufacturing cost would be very high. It would be extremely expensive for a mass-market device.
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Has everyone here not looked at the source??? He's making the point that you could have the next gen console now at it's possible launch price.
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#30 LookAnDrolL
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There like 20 posters in this thread that definely didn't get the joke
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Can't be real because its not a big enough jump... from 3 core to 4 core only? a modified 460? not a 480? only 4 gb ram?? Ram is cheap. DVD rom still? Doubtful.

Those specs match todays mid range PC specs, in 2 years when its released it will be equivalent to a low end PC. Those aren't real at all.

Phazevariance

Consoles aren't meant to be PCs. Of course they should release a console that is "a two year old mid range PC" because then it will be profitable at an affordable price.

Shouldn't be more than $399 IMO.

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#32 Mystic-G
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[QUOTE="Mystic-G"]

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]

...and I don't get the point you're trying to make...

15strong

Well... It's in reference to the ones who claim how on par console gaming is to PC gaming. Had a console come with all that, one side would gloat extremely hard, always claiming best over every multiplat game they received. And yet it's taboo for PC gamers to mention how much more versatile the platform is and what we're able to do when it comes to game discussion.

You could make a strong argument that consoles are equal to pc when it comes to software. And that is all that really matters. What is the point to having all this power when nobody is utilizing it?

That's the endgame of it all and yet I hear time and time again, PC gaming is too expensive. And yet if a Xbox console released with those capabilities, specs, and price TODAY. Gamers would eat it up and gloat how much better their platform is than what Sony and Nintendo have to offer. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of it it all.

I'm all for platform of choice, but don't down the PC as a gaming platform because the start-up cost is more than consoles. You get what you pay for is the point here.

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Has everyone here not looked at the source??? He's making the point that you could have the next gen console now at it's possible launch price.hoosier7

Pretty sure posting fake/made up information is against the ToS

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#34 Jebus213
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Thats not even up in par with my PC's GPU...

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[QUOTE="Phazevariance"]

Can't be real because its not a big enough jump... from 3 core to 4 core only? a modified 460? not a 480? only 4 gb ram?? Ram is cheap. DVD rom still? Doubtful.

Those specs match todays mid range PC specs, in 2 years when its released it will be equivalent to a low end PC. Those aren't real at all.

Stevo_the_gamer

GTX... 480? In consoles... Have we all forgotten the power consumption, heat, and complexity of the high-end enthusiast graphics cards?

Aren't the current console using modified versions of the highest end GPUs at the time?

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#36 Truth_Hurts_U
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If them specs were something like...

6 core enhanced re-architecture 360 processor. 384 KB L1,3 MB L2 and 6MB L3

2 GB GDDR 5 (512 bit) memory.

Custom ATI GPU with enhanced DX 11 support.

4x Blu Ray Drive.

I would believe you.

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#37 Mystic-G
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Phazevariance"]

Can't be real because its not a big enough jump... from 3 core to 4 core only? a modified 460? not a 480? only 4 gb ram?? Ram is cheap. DVD rom still? Doubtful.

Those specs match todays mid range PC specs, in 2 years when its released it will be equivalent to a low end PC. Those aren't real at all.

Espada12

GTX... 480? In consoles... Have we all forgotten the power consumption, heat, and complexity of the high-end enthusiast graphics cards?

Aren't the current console using modified versions of the highest end GPUs at the time?

Would you like to see the difference in power consumption, heat, and size of the high end cards from 2005 than from 2011?
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#38 15strong
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[QUOTE="15strong"]

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"]

Well... It's in reference to the ones who claim how on par console gaming is to PC gaming. Had a console come with all that, one side would gloat extremely hard, always claiming best over every multiplat game they received. And yet it's taboo for PC gamers to mention how much more versatile the platform is and what we're able to do when it comes to game discussion.

Mystic-G

You could make a strong argument that consoles are equal to pc when it comes to software. And that is all that really matters. What is the point to having all this power when nobody is utilizing it?

That's the endgame of it all and yet I hear time and time again, PC gaming is too expensive. And yet if a Xbox console released with those capabilities, specs, and price TODAY. Gamers would eat it up and gloat how much better their platform is than what Sony and Nintendo have to offer. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of it it all.

I'm all for platform of choice, but don't down the PC as a gaming platform because the start-up cost is more than consoles. You get what you pay for is the point here.

True, but many games have the same expirience on both pc and consoles. I have a decent pc but won't run Crysis 2 anywhere near max settings. I could get the same expirience on consoles and it will be cheaper.

Also, am I really getting what I am paying for if I buy next gen pc hardware but developers aren't providing next gen games?

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Joke aside, as a pc gamer who also owns a ps3 i cant help but wonder. If they can pull off graphics like uc2 and mgs4 and kz2/3 on a modified 7800 and 512mb ram and that cell processor, what are we going to see when the next gen consoles come? If, lets say if, they went with the same policy of a badass cpu, lowish fast ram and a modified high end gpu, what a console with 2 gigs of fast ram, an advanced cell processor and a gf1xx/cayman chip with 1gig of vram would be capable of? UC2 in native 1080p with AA?

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Would you like to see the difference in power consumption, heat, and size of the high end cards from 2005 than from 2011?Mystic-G

I know the difference. All they will do is design the console around the new requirements. I can't see why it couldn't be done.

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#41 Mystic-G
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[QUOTE="Mystic-G"]

[QUOTE="15strong"]

You could make a strong argument that consoles are equal to pc when it comes to software. And that is all that really matters. What is the point to having all this power when nobody is utilizing it?

15strong

That's the endgame of it all and yet I hear time and time again, PC gaming is too expensive. And yet if a Xbox console released with those capabilities, specs, and price TODAY. Gamers would eat it up and gloat how much better their platform is than what Sony and Nintendo have to offer. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of it it all.

I'm all for platform of choice, but don't down the PC as a gaming platform because the start-up cost is more than consoles. You get what you pay for is the point here.

True, but many games have the same expirience on both pc and consoles. I have a decent pc but won't run Crysis 2 anywhere near max settings. I could get the same expirience on consoles and it will be cheaper.

Also, am I really getting what I am paying for if I buy next gen pc hardware but developers aren't providing next gen games?

I'm pointing out that it's a better experience with the same games (for the most part).

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This thread proves that hermits are starting to show there extreme fanboyism, they are weak. They reclaimed there voice due to the extension of this gen of gaming and we need to shut them back up!!!! If we attack the pc gamer now we can take back the GS forums and send those so called elites back under that Counter Strike and WoW playing rock where they belong just like when the ps3 and 360 first released back in 05 and 06.

Come on consolites it's time to take the forum back!!!!!!!

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#43 15strong
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[QUOTE="15strong"]

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"] That's the endgame of it all and yet I hear time and time again, PC gaming is too expensive. And yet if a Xbox console released with those capabilities, specs, and price TODAY. Gamers would eat it up and gloat how much better their platform is than what Sony and Nintendo have to offer. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of it it all.

I'm all for platform of choice, but don't down the PC as a gaming platform because the start-up cost is more than consoles. You get what you pay for is the point here.

Mystic-G

True, but many games have the same expirience on both pc and consoles. I have a decent pc but won't run Crysis 2 anywhere near max settings. I could get the same expirience on consoles and it will be cheaper.

Also, am I really getting what I am paying for if I buy next gen pc hardware but developers aren't providing next gen games?

I'm pointing out that it's a better experience with the same games (for the most part).

Besides something like mods, it is basically the same expirience. Take a recently released multiplatform game like bulletstorm for example. Whether you play it on pc or consoles, you are getting the same basic expirience minus slight graphical differences. For the most part, buying a high end computer is not justified when the games are not that much better then their console counterparts.

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#44 Mystic-G
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This thread proves that hermits are starting to show there extreme fanboyism, they are weak. They reclaimed there voice due to the extension of this gen of gaming and we need to shut them back up!!!! If we attack the pc gamer now we can take back the GS forums and send those so called elites back under that Counter Strike and WoW playing rock where they belong just like when the ps3 and 360 first released back in 05 and 06.

Come on consolites it's time to take the forum back!!!!!!!

CB4McGusto

Cool story Braveheart

Besides something like mods, it is basically the same expirience. Take a recently released multiplatform game like bulletstorm for example. Whether you play it on pc or consoles, you are getting the same basic expirience minus slight graphical differences. For the most part, buying a high end computer is not justified when the games are not that much better then their console counterparts.

15strong

Would all these console gamers claim it was the same experience if the Xbox 720 released today with all of that? No they would not. And you know they would claim ownage. That's the point i'm making here. You can make it sound good all you want but the hypocrisy remains amongst many and that's what I exploited here.

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Very clever OP, very clever indeed. I feel sad for a Lemming who came into this thread, got extremely excited when he/she read your post, then clicked your link and had their dreams crushed. Nobody will admit it though.

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Its not the raw power or hardware age that matters. Its the material cost of the components. GTX 460 is a large graphics card, generally meaning the material and manufacturing cost would be very high. It would be extremely expensive for a mass-market device. PandaBear86
Bingo, and not to mention you don't need the highest-end parts in order to draw a lot of power from--PS3 uses a modified 7800 or 7600 (I forget which) GPU, and yet we have received games like Uncharted 2 and Killzone 3 which look very good.
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#47 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Mystic-G"]Would you like to see the difference in power consumption, heat, and size of the high end cards from 2005 than from 2011?Espada12

I know the difference. All they will do is design the console around the new requirements. I can't see why it couldn't be done.

Oh, it can be done... but the cooling, and the power requirements just wouldn't be practical for a console design.
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#48 agpickle
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Can't be real because its not a big enough jump... from 3 core to 4 core only? a modified 460? not a 480? only 4 gb ram?? Ram is cheap. DVD rom still? Doubtful.

Those specs match todays mid range PC specs, in 2 years when its released it will be equivalent to a low end PC. Those aren't real at all.

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lol. You have no idea how much your PS3 and 360 have do you?

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#49 the-obiwan
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roflcoptar:3

i see >x(D

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#50 TheEpicGoat
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Wishful thinking?