Left 4 dead and Gears of War 2 not on GotY list?? What?!

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#1 jasonheyman
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Both are very good games. If they were on the list which would give MGS4 a run for it's money
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#2 theMarshell
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I think they said 9.5 or higher, heres the thing in my personal opinion no game is perfect, meaning no game deserves a 10 because all of them have there flaws, but I think matter a fact I know MGS4 will win I mean GTA 4 just sucked and nothing else can stand up to snake. Anyway I wanted G Gears up there to but we can't get every thing we won't now can we?
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#3 Droopeh
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None of those games would have won anyways, so who really cares? Gears 2 still should have been there instead of Bioshock or NHL though..
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#4 the-obiwan
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gears 2 ;D
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#5 jasonheyman
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OXM gave both these games a 9 and up I think left 4 dead got a 9.5. Defenitly needed to be on that list imo..
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#6 Roushrsh
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Gears would give MGS4 a run for its money, and thats not the GOTY list, its the games who have the most momentum going into the GOTY competition
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#7 mo0ksi
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Gears 2. It scored higher.
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#8 Timstuff
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The poll is tied, so that means neither would win.
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#9 imprezawrx500
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OXM gave both these games a 9 and up I think left 4 dead got a 9.5. Defenitly needed to be on that list imo..jasonheyman
just like how pcpp gave fc2 and l4d 10s (10 doesn't mean perfect but means its and exceptionally good game)
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#10 Eyezonmii
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Both are very good games. If they were on the list which would give MGS4 a run for it's moneyjasonheyman
lol, MGS4 squashes Gears 2 in single player, also thank MGS4 for gear 2 to even have the story that it did, considering how poor the first games story was. Gears 2 had a lot of MGS4 moments....epic really are cheap fools.
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#11 def_mode
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both are good games but sorry MGS4 takes it.
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#12 WalterPaladines
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Geow 2 multiplayer is laggy, buggy and unfinished, no one would choose it as Goty.
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#13 Toriko42
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Nominees aren't up yet
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[QUOTE="jasonheyman"]Both are very good games. If they were on the list which would give MGS4 a run for it's moneyEyezonmii
lol, MGS4 squashes Gears 2 in single player, also thank MGS4 for gear 2 to even have the story that it did, considering how poor the first games story was. Gears 2 had a lot of MGS4 moments....epic really are cheap fools.

You can tell that they were inspired by MGS from CliffB's vocal damage control of MGS being awesome. Too bad they failed in presentation, have nonsense motives, empty plot branches, supposedly serious moments are cliche/transparent, poor character development, comical adversaries (suspends belief), characters exist for the sake of attempted "emotion" or "tragedy". It gets the job done for what it needs to do, but their pretentiousness is laughable.

Back on topic: Gears 2 is a definite nominee for GotY, but I think it will go to either GTA IV or MGS4. My money's on MGS4 :).

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#15 Helbrec
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No wonder nearly EVERY review said that gears 2 IMPROVED on like what? EVER aspect than the original...
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Geow 2 multiplayer is laggy, buggy and unfinished, no one would choose it as Goty.WalterPaladines

And MGS4 Online plain sucks.

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#17 Eyezonmii
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[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="jasonheyman"]Both are very good games. If they were on the list which would give MGS4 a run for it's moneyEpisode_Eve

lol, MGS4 squashes Gears 2 in single player, also thank MGS4 for gear 2 to even have the story that it did, considering how poor the first games story was. Gears 2 had a lot of MGS4 moments....epic really are cheap fools.

You can tell that they were inspired by MGS from CliffB's vocal damage control of MGS being awesome. Too bad they failed in presentation, have nonsense motives, empty plot branches, supposedly serious moments are cliche/transparent, poor character development, comical adversaries (suspends belief), characters exist for the sake of attempted "emotion" or "tragedy". It gets the job done for what it needs to do, but their pretentiousness is laughable.

Back on topic: Gears 2 is a definite nominee for GotY, but I think it will go to either GTA IV or MGS4. My money's on MGS4 :).

well said..i just can't get over Dom's reaction when they couldn't find his wife and that look on his face, when he breaks the car window with his gun.....horribly lame and cheesy. gsus.
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#18 Eyezonmii
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[QUOTE="WalterPaladines"]Geow 2 multiplayer is laggy, buggy and unfinished, no one would choose it as Goty.PS3_3DO

And MGS4 Online plain sucks.

Nope, it just isn't everyones online game...at least its balanced and playable.
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#19 II_Seraphim_II
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I think they said 9.5 or higher, heres the thing in my personal opinion no game is perfect, meaning no game deserves a 10 because all of them have there flaws, but I think matter a fact I know MGS4 will win I mean GTA 4 just sucked and nothing else can stand up to snake. Anyway I wanted G Gears up there to but we can't get every thing we won't now can we?theMarshell
once again, 10 doesnt mean perfect, it means prime :P
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#20 jg4xchamp
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um the preliminaries is about momentum and not the actual nominees... although it is wierd that Gears of War 2 isnt on the list...i highly doubt that PS3 version of Bioshock gets nominated and Gears of War 2 doesnt
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#21 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

[QUOTE="WalterPaladines"]Geow 2 multiplayer is laggy, buggy and unfinished, no one would choose it as Goty.Eyezonmii

And MGS4 Online plain sucks.

Nope, it just isn't everyones online game...at least its balanced and playable.

KONAMI ID and having to pay for extra character slots is what killed MGO. If they had kept it on PSN and free, it would have had far more people playing it. Another thing i've always wondered. Do companies make more money by making people pay for DLC or by having free products that are payed for by ingame ads? Because I bet a company would make a killing if they made DLC free but included ingame ads in the form of posters or ads on the loading screen...just an idea. Imagine how many people would download free DLC...and imagine how much they would make from ad companies since each Download is a "hit" on the ad :D
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#22 SolidTy
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Both are very good games. If they were on the list which would give MGS4 a run for it's moneyjasonheyman

You understand that the SAME PEOPLE That gave those games those scores, are making choices on GOTY, right?

Why would they changed their minds? This thread makes no sense.

The answer is NEITHER, as GS is GS.

If you are asking US, what is our personal GOTY, that's different, and infact will be answered I'm sure. As far as GS goes, if these games couldn't get a 9.5, why would these games, then become GOTY contenders against games that GS did give a 9.5-10 too?

Honestly, THINK ABOUT IT. They reveiw these games, and they aren't going to suddenly say :

"Hey, we gave GeoW and Resistance 2 a 9.0, and we gave GTA4 a 10....lets give GeoW/R2 the GOTY though!"

That's just absurd.

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[QUOTE="jasonheyman"]Both are very good games. If they were on the list which would give MGS4 a run for it's moneySolidTy

You understand that the SAME PEOPLE That gave those games those scores, are making choices on GOTY, right?

Why would they changed their minds? This thread makes no sense.

The answer is NEITHER, as GS is GS.

If you are asking US, what is our personal GOTY, that's different, and infact will be answered I'm sure. As far as GS goes, if these games couldn't get a 9.5, why would these games, then become GOTY contenders against games that GS did give a 9.5-10 too?

Honestly, THINK ABOUT IT. They reveiw these games, and they aren't going to suddenly say :

"Hey, we gave GeoW and Resistance 2 a 9.0, and we gave GTA4 a 10....lets give GeoW/R2 the GOTY though!"

That's just absurd.

Wow does this stat need to be brought up every time...ahem THE PERFECT 10s are 0-4 Ocarina of Time 98- 98 Goty(GRIM FANDANGO) CHrono Cross, Soul Caliber, and TOny Hawk Pro Skater 3 all 3 got 10s All 3 got zero GOTY awards to join OOT Gamespot and its review score means nothing to them... LAst year COD 4 won best xbox 360 game...even though Halo 3=9.5...and COD 4=9.0 Half Life 2 won shooter of the year in 04..when Halo 2 got 9.4 and Half Life 2 got 9.2 but i will just go back to the original Games rated 10...are 0-4 when it comes to winning GOTY on this site.
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#24 II_Seraphim_II
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, stop with these GOTY discussions. We all know (or should know) that its gonna be LBP. LBP is the only game this year that has actually stood out from the general trend. Another possible contender would be World in Conflict. So its either LBP or WiC. Spore would have taken it had it gotten AAA status, unfortunetaly, that didnt happen :( You can quote me as many times as you want under the condition that when I am right, and you all get owned, you dont remove the quote for atleast 1 week so I can bask in the gratifying glory of noob tears :D Edit; Forgot to add, MGS4 is another possible contender. if its not MGS4, WiC (I think that came out this year...) or LBP, I will eat my hat and your shoe :shock:
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#25 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="jasonheyman"]Both are very good games. If they were on the list which would give MGS4 a run for it's moneyjg4xchamp

You understand that the SAME PEOPLE That gave those games those scores, are making choices on GOTY, right?

Why would they changed their minds? This thread makes no sense.

The answer is NEITHER, as GS is GS.

If you are asking US, what is our personal GOTY, that's different, and infact will be answered I'm sure. As far as GS goes, if these games couldn't get a 9.5, why would these games, then become GOTY contenders against games that GS did give a 9.5-10 too?

Honestly, THINK ABOUT IT. They reveiw these games, and they aren't going to suddenly say :

"Hey, we gave GeoW and Resistance 2 a 9.0, and we gave GTA4 a 10....lets give GeoW/R2 the GOTY though!"

That's just absurd.

Wow does this stat need to be brought up every time...ahem THE PERFECT 10s are 0-4 Ocarina of Time 98- 98 Goty(GRIM FANDANGO) CHrono Cross, Soul Caliber, and TOny Hawk Pro Skater 3 all 3 got 10s All 3 got zero GOTY awards to join OOT Gamespot and its review score means nothing to them... LAst year COD 4 won best xbox 360 game...even though Halo 3=9.5...and COD 4=9.0 Half Life 2 won shooter of the year in 04..when Halo 2 got 9.4 and Half Life 2 got 9.2 but i will just go back to the original Games rated 10...are 0-4 when it comes to winning GOTY on this site.

I do understand that, that's why they have a cut off. Right?

Back then, the cutoff was 9.0, now it's 9.5.

I recognize that SSBB could get GOTY, even though it got a 9.5...but GS has a fine line that they won't cross.

If they impose rules on themselves, how can the TC hope to insert new ones?

So, if GS due to whatever reason (Perhaps from a fan backlash, Perhaps due to Gerstmangate, perhaps due to the scoring system, or just because they want to keep it closer), then that's that.

The question is, are they letting 9.0+'s in this year, or 9.5+'s?

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#26 Eyezonmii
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, stop with these GOTY discussions. We all know (or should know) that its gonna be LBP. LBP is the only game this year that has actually stood out from the general trend. Another possible contender would be World in Conflict. So its either LBP or WiC. Spore would have taken it had it gotten AAA status, unfortunetaly, that didnt happen :( You can quote me as many times as you want under the condition that when I am right, and you all get owned, you dont remove the quote for atleast 1 week so I can bask in the gratifying glory of noob tears :DII_Seraphim_II
and MGS4? there is NO other game in its league in STORY telling and perfected cut scenes....come on.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, stop with these GOTY discussions. We all know (or should know) that its gonna be LBP. LBP is the only game this year that has actually stood out from the general trend. Another possible contender would be World in Conflict. So its either LBP or WiC. Spore would have taken it had it gotten AAA status, unfortunetaly, that didnt happen :( You can quote me as many times as you want under the condition that when I am right, and you all get owned, you dont remove the quote for atleast 1 week so I can bask in the gratifying glory of noob tears :D Edit; Forgot to add, MGS4 is another possible contender. if its not MGS4, WiC (I think that came out this year...) or LBP, I will eat my hat and your shoe :shock:II_Seraphim_II
um World in Conflict was last year....in fact it was nominated last year...and it LOST!!!!! :twisted:
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#28 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]I've said it before and I'll say it again, stop with these GOTY discussions. We all know (or should know) that its gonna be LBP. LBP is the only game this year that has actually stood out from the general trend. Another possible contender would be World in Conflict. So its either LBP or WiC. Spore would have taken it had it gotten AAA status, unfortunetaly, that didnt happen :( You can quote me as many times as you want under the condition that when I am right, and you all get owned, you dont remove the quote for atleast 1 week so I can bask in the gratifying glory of noob tears :DEyezonmii
and MGS4? there is NO other game in its league in STORY telling and perfected cut scenes....come on.

Yeah I edited...it was an error on my part....I know...im so ashamed :cry: Im gonna say 100 "Hail Snakes" and ask for forgiveness from the Boss :cry:
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#29 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]I've said it before and I'll say it again, stop with these GOTY discussions. We all know (or should know) that its gonna be LBP. LBP is the only game this year that has actually stood out from the general trend. Another possible contender would be World in Conflict. So its either LBP or WiC. Spore would have taken it had it gotten AAA status, unfortunetaly, that didnt happen :( You can quote me as many times as you want under the condition that when I am right, and you all get owned, you dont remove the quote for atleast 1 week so I can bask in the gratifying glory of noob tears :DEyezonmii
and MGS4? there is NO other game in its league in STORY telling and perfected cut scenes....come on.

as a big MGS fan...lets not go to far Cutscenes- Yep hands down nobody does it better than Kojima and company Story Telling- FOr all mediums no...... FOr games...once again it works for MGS because the characters are likeable, the game is immaginitive, and the plotline and mythos of the whole franchises is expanded across 4 games..also there is the depth...these things SAVE(yes i said save) what can be considered an annoying method of story telling....yes its Metal Gear Solid but NO GAME...would get the lee way to force that many cutscenes and that much repetitive dialogue(the prologues draged on way too long sometimes). MGS 4 isnt perfect in its department....it is how ever imo an ambitious Story driven franchise and overall product.. WHat MGS 4s biggest X factor is that it is by far THE Best work of fan service known to man. The games homeage to past games...it was just well done... So in short it is a great story. its a fantastic game for the fans, but there are many arguements that can be said against the game which doesn't make it for everyone..especially its story telling method(which if your an MGS fan you don't mind and enjoy every second...or you hate and unfortunantly makes you miss what is IMO a great game overall)
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#30 mistervengeance
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no. neither of those deserve GOTY. not when they're in the same group as MGS4.
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Another thing i've always wondered. Do companies make more money by making people pay for DLC or by having free products that are payed for by ingame ads? Because I bet a company would make a killing if they made DLC free but included ingame ads in the form of posters or ads on the loading screen...just an idea. Imagine how many people would download free DLC...and imagine how much they would make from ad companies since each Download is a "hit" on the ad :DII_Seraphim_II
Assuming that you have a team of 10 people working 40 hours a week for 10 weeks to make some DLC and getting paid $30 an hour, thats $120,000 in pure payroll cost. Thats not even counting taxes and social security that companies have to pay, nor is it counting benefits. Its also assuming that it will be a strict 40 hours with ZERO overtime. And that money has to be paid to them whether the game tanks, whether advertisers pull out, whether DLC flops, and it has to be paid on their regular time table. If you're employed by some huge company like EA, Activision, Microsoft, etc thats a drop in the bucket and you can probably give away DLC for days and keep huge teams working the whole year. But for a small company, thats a good bit of money. How much is advertising really bringing in? I'm sure advertisers care less about views, they want to know if this is translating into sales. Especially in a game. With TV commercials you're paying attention to them. In a game, you probably checking out everything BUT the ad. You might not even notice it if you're having a fire fight in the area. For a huge game that sells millions and is one of the most played games online, ad revenue might be nice but for smaller niche titles its probably chump change or non-existent.