Lemmings & UT3 for 360

Are lemmings going to get into the UT3 spirit?

It should be superior to the PS3 in all ways except maybe mods but I'm sure Epic will get mods to 360 somehow.

UT3 I will say technically has the best muliplayer experience of all FPS games at the moment. So I hope you guys look into it. It should be far better on Live than PSN.

UT3? You mean UT2k4 HD? thrones

Yeah well, it's still a great game :D

Seriously though, there is a lot of variety in there. But it depends how many people play online. It sux when hardly anyone plays :(

In UT3 you really need to have a lot of people play and it's a lot more hectic and fun.

Unreal Tournamant 3= Butchererd Unreal game and for all intents and purposes terrible compared to previous Unreal games.

And as far as im concerned id rather keep playing Halo 3, Call of Duty 4, Gears of War, and Rainbow Six Vegas on the 360.

IF i wanted to play Unreal 3, id play on my PC.

Unreal Tournamant 3= Butchererd Unreal game and for all intents and purposes terrible compared to previous Unreal games.

And as far as im concerned id rather keep playing Halo 3, Call of Duty 4, Gears of War, and Rainbow Six Vegas on the 360.

IF i wanted to play Unreal 3, id play on my PC.

jg4xchamp

Most of the games you mention there are probably better on PC as well, so I'm not sure I understand your comparison.

no i wont be getting Unreal tournament either, not interested in it. COD4 is keeping my multiplayer requirements quite happy at the moment, there are usually 150,000 people on line when i go on, so no trouble finding any games = win.sts106mat

Yeah COD4 is great, I agree but for variety other games can be good as well :)

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

Unreal Tournamant 3= Butchererd Unreal game and for all intents and purposes terrible compared to previous Unreal games.

And as far as im concerned id rather keep playing Halo 3, Call of Duty 4, Gears of War, and Rainbow Six Vegas on the 360.

IF i wanted to play Unreal 3, id play on my PC.

wisdomWarrior

Most of the games you mention there are probably better on PC as well, so I'm not sure I understand your comparison.

no i wont be getting Unreal tournament either, not interested in it. COD4 is keeping my multiplayer requirements quite happy at the moment, there are usually 150,000 people on line when i go on, so no trouble finding any games = win.sts106mat

I have to agree COD4 has ruined me for other shooters. I simply feel no need to play any other shooter and have not since its release. I suspect COD4 may last this entire gen if IW does not get COD6 out this gen.

It sucks.

Comming from somone with the pc collectors edition.

Go buy UT04 on PC.

It sucks.

Comming from somone with the pc collectors edition.

Go buy UT04 on PC.

skrat_01

Oh cmon man...there are some people that actually prefer the original UT1 style of gameplay over the 2k4 version. UT3 is a good game. It really is. Why must it be compared to it's previous incarnation?

Most people who enjoyed UT1 hated UT2k3 and UT2k4. Many of the people who got good at UT2k4 did not play UT1 all that much and so when UT3 came out they hated it. Just because the hardcore UT2k4 players hated UT3 does not mean that someone who has never played a UT game before won't enjoy it.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

It sucks.

Comming from somone with the pc collectors edition.

Go buy UT04 on PC.

wisdomWarrior

Oh cmon man...there are some people that actually prefer the original UT1 style of gameplay over the 2k4 version. UT3 is a good game. It really is. Why must it be compared to it's previous incarnation?

Most people who enjoyed UT1 hated UT2k3 and UT2k4. Many of the people who got good at UT2k4 did not play UT1 all that much and so when UT3 came out they hated it. Just because the hardcore UT2k4 players hated UT3 does not mean that someone who has never played a UT game before won't enjoy it.

Its gameplay is that of UT04, with tweaks here and there....

And I loved UT99', put more hours into it than 03 and 04 combined.

Its just not that good. It lacks content, gamemodes are missing and have been simplified, less of a variety of characters and locations, the menu / ui is simply abysmal, the singleplayer is a joke and the modding community doesent even care for it one ounce.

On the modding community put this in perspective. Next semester for my uni course I was supposed to be modding UT3 as a group assignment, however UT3 was dropped by the people running the subject for UT04 simply because the modding support was that poor.

Though UT3 does have its merits. The visuals are nice, the art style is great (even though it lacks variety) and the Necris vehicles are awesome. Thats about it.

I have it on PC, and even with the modding community behind it, it's still a phail game.Ninja-Hippo

It is a phail game because not enough people are playing it online. Essentially the game got of to a bad start when they released a broken beta demo on PC. It never fully recovered from that point.

If people would actually get online and play, I bet they'd have more fun. But alas you are right...it is a phail game as it stands.

I was hoping that this could change of the 360 community gets into the multiplayer in a big way. I had high hopes :(

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]I have it on PC, and even with the modding community behind it, it's still a phail game.wisdomWarrior

It is a phail game because not enough people are playing it online. Essentially the game got of to a bad start when they released a broken beta demo on PC. It never fully recovered from that point.

If people would actually get online and play, I bet they'd have more fun. But alas you are right...it is a phail game as it stands.

I was hoping that this could change of the 360 community gets into the multiplayer in a big way. I had high hopes :(

I dont think it's much to do with people playing, to be honest. I never have trouble getting a game. It's playing the actual game itself which is the issue.

I have it on PC, and even with the modding community behind it, it's still a phail game.Ninja-Hippo

Took the words right out of my mouth. I can get the PS3 or 360 version and I'm still gonna pass. Bring on Gears 2.

[QUOTE="wisdomWarrior"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

It sucks.

Comming from somone with the pc collectors edition.

Go buy UT04 on PC.

skrat_01

Oh cmon man...there are some people that actually prefer the original UT1 style of gameplay over the 2k4 version. UT3 is a good game. It really is. Why must it be compared to it's previous incarnation?

Most people who enjoyed UT1 hated UT2k3 and UT2k4. Many of the people who got good at UT2k4 did not play UT1 all that much and so when UT3 came out they hated it. Just because the hardcore UT2k4 players hated UT3 does not mean that someone who has never played a UT game before won't enjoy it.

Its gameplay is that of UT04, with tweaks here and there....

And I loved UT99', put more hours into it than 03 and 04 combined.

Its just not that good. It lacks content, gamemodes are missing and have been simplified, less of a variety of characters and locations, the menu / ui is simply abysmal, the singleplayer is a joke and the modding community doesent even care for it one ounce.

On the modding community put this in perspective. Next semester for my uni course I was supposed to be modding UT3 as a group assignment, however UT3 was dropped by the people running the subject for UT04 simply because the modding support was that poor.

Though UT3 does have its merits. The visuals are nice, the art style is great (even though it lacks variety) and the Necris vehicles are awesome. Thats about it.

That's some pretty good justification. I believe the gameplay is closer to UT1 than UT2k4.

Anyway yes, I agree the GUI is terrible. I think what you say in general is spot on correct. But even then, the game isn't terrible. It's still better than most of the other FPS out there from a multi player point of view. There are plenty of user created maps that are re-makes from past UT games. It's still fun to play those maps. It may not be as good as UT99 or UT2k4 overall, but the graphics have been improved and it's going to be on xbox live and currently on PSN, so why not give it a go?

I still think UT3 is far better than Halo 3.

[QUOTE="wisdomWarrior"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]I have it on PC, and even with the modding community behind it, it's still a phail game.Ninja-Hippo

It is a phail game because not enough people are playing it online. Essentially the game got of to a bad start when they released a broken beta demo on PC. It never fully recovered from that point.

If people would actually get online and play, I bet they'd have more fun. But alas you are right...it is a phail game as it stands.

I was hoping that this could change of the 360 community gets into the multiplayer in a big way. I had high hopes :(

I dont think it's much to do with people playing, to be honest. I never have trouble getting a game. It's playing the actual game itself which is the issue.

ohh ok. hmm...maybe this style of game is just not that much fun for a lot of people any more. I always thought it was that there wreren't many people online. Although you got to ask yourself why it is that more people don't play online.

Maybe it's because the game is so different to other fps. You don't automatically heal in UT3. Also I think the skill level is a little tough for newbies who go up against the good players. In UT3 the good players decimate the newbies rather badly. It's not that newbies can't get good but it would be tough to accept dying so much when learning how the play the game.

hmm...I think I've been rambling too much in this thread:D

[QUOTE="sts106mat"]no i wont be getting Unreal tournament either, not interested in it. COD4 is keeping my multiplayer requirements quite happy at the moment, there are usually 150,000 people on line when i go on, so no trouble finding any games = win.Khansoul

I have to agree COD4 has ruined me for other shooters. I simply feel no need to play any other shooter and have not since its release. I suspect COD4 may last this entire gen if IW does not get COD6 out this gen.

We'll see a COD game from Infinity Ward in 2009.

That's some pretty good justification. I believe the gameplay is closer to UT1 than UT2k4.

Anyway yes, I agree the GUI is terrible. I think what you say in general is spot on correct. But even then, the game isn't terrible. It's still better than most of the other FPS out there from a multi player point of view. There are plenty of user created maps that are re-makes from past UT games. It's still fun to play those maps. It may not be as good as UT99 or UT2k4 overall, but the graphics have been improved and it's going to be on xbox live and currently on PSN, so why not give it a go?

I still think UT3 is far better than Halo 3.

wisdomWarrior

Why buy a game that is 'better than most multiplayer FPSs' if its 4 year old predacessor absolutely stomps it?

Or its 9 year old predacessor that is better?

This is the problem.....

Its PC online community is virtually dead, and the PSN one is next to non existant. The XBL one is goingto crumble on release.

Sure its not a bad game, but honeslty why give it a go when its so drastically inferiour to its much older predacessors?

Played it on my friend's PC and I didn't have that much fun. And I love Instagibs but not so sure how it's gonna work for the 360. I'll rent it most likely but not really looking foward to it.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

Unreal Tournamant 3= Butchererd Unreal game and for all intents and purposes terrible compared to previous Unreal games.

And as far as im concerned id rather keep playing Halo 3, Call of Duty 4, Gears of War, and Rainbow Six Vegas on the 360.

IF i wanted to play Unreal 3, id play on my PC.

wisdomWarrior

Most of the games you mention there are probably better on PC as well, so I'm not sure I understand your comparison.

gears 360- 9.6 gears pc- 9.0

cod 4 360- 9.0 cod 4 pc- 9.0

Rainbow six Vegas 360- 9.0 Rainbow six Vegas pc- 8.7

halo 3 360-9.5 halo 3 pc- has not even been announced yet

i dont know how you can say they are probly all better on the pc

UT3? You mean UT2k4 HD? thrones

It sucks.

Comming from somone with the pc collectors edition.

Go buy UT04 on PC.

skrat_01

UT2k4 was garbage imo. U99>UT3>UT2k4

UT3? You mean UT2k4 HD? thrones

Nice 1st responce.

Anyway go buy ut04 editors choice.

[QUOTE="wisdomWarrior"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

It sucks.

Comming from somone with the pc collectors edition.

Go buy UT04 on PC.

skrat_01

Oh cmon man...there are some people that actually prefer the original UT1 style of gameplay over the 2k4 version. UT3 is a good game. It really is. Why must it be compared to it's previous incarnation?

Most people who enjoyed UT1 hated UT2k3 and UT2k4. Many of the people who got good at UT2k4 did not play UT1 all that much and so when UT3 came out they hated it. Just because the hardcore UT2k4 players hated UT3 does not mean that someone who has never played a UT game before won't enjoy it.

Its gameplay is that of UT04, with tweaks here and there....

And I loved UT99', put more hours into it than 03 and 04 combined.

Its just not that good. It lacks content, gamemodes are missing and have been simplified, less of a variety of characters and locations, the menu / ui is simply abysmal, the singleplayer is a joke and the modding community doesent even care for it one ounce.

On the modding community put this in perspective. Next semester for my uni course I was supposed to be modding UT3 as a group assignment, however UT3 was dropped by the people running the subject for UT04 simply because the modding support was that poor.

Though UT3 does have its merits. The visuals are nice, the art style is great (even though it lacks variety) and the Necris vehicles are awesome. Thats about it.

UT3 is more UT99 than UT2k4 which is why I like so much more better than UT2k4 which imo was hot garbage on a sh!t stick.

No UT3 for me....

Last UT I played was on the dreamcast..not my type of game..(style...speed..weapons..)

It is the best series for online multiplayer, though Unreal Tournament 3 just doesn't have all the feel of the Unreal Engine and Unreal Engine 2 games. (Though they dropped Adrenaline, which I liked)

Personally, I like Unreal Tournament 2003 the best, even better than Unreal Tournament 2004. It's just the feel of the game.

I will be getting UT3.

But I know Its gonna be inferior to the PC and PS3 versions but i cant help it im a fan of the UT series.

ok I have both UT3 for my PS3 and PC...and both are meh...

I played the ps3 for a lil bit and its fun but it gets old after a while, and even with mods its ok but not spectacular.

And i've barely touched the pc version (got it with the unreal deal on steam) because its just not that much different cept the controls of course but its downgrade like UT2k3...

[QUOTE="wisdomWarrior"]

That's some pretty good justification. I believe the gameplay is closer to UT1 than UT2k4.

Anyway yes, I agree the GUI is terrible. I think what you say in general is spot on correct. But even then, the game isn't terrible. It's still better than most of the other FPS out there from a multi player point of view. There are plenty of user created maps that are re-makes from past UT games. It's still fun to play those maps. It may not be as good as UT99 or UT2k4 overall, but the graphics have been improved and it's going to be on xbox live and currently on PSN, so why not give it a go?

I still think UT3 is far better than Halo 3.

skrat_01

Why buy a game that is 'better than most multiplayer FPSs' if its 4 year old predacessor absolutely stomps it?

Or its 9 year old predacessor that is better?

This is the problem.....

Its PC online community is virtually dead, and the PSN one is next to non existant. The XBL one is goingto crumble on release.

Sure its not a bad game, but honeslty why give it a go when its so drastically inferiour to its much older predacessors?

It may not be as good but I wouldn't call it 'drastically inferior' from a multiplayer gameplay point of view. The GUI may suck etc but the gameplay mechanic and weapon balance is still very good and fun. The only issue for me would be the number of people that play the game online. If it is too low then I wouldn't bother with it. If there ends up being a decent number online then it's a diffrent story. Furthermore I don't want to play games on my PC. I want to play on console.

I guess we all have different needs and criteria that we need fulfilled when deciding to buy a game. I have this game on PS3 but I was hoping it would do well on 360 so that they at least decide to make a new UT4 game or something.

Are lemmings going to get into the UT3 spirit?

It should be superior to the PS3 in all ways except maybe mods but I'm sure Epic will get mods to 360 somehow.

UT3 I will say technically has the best muliplayer experience of all FPS games at the moment. So I hope you guys look into it. It should be far better on Live than PSN.

wisdomWarrior

Sorry to break it to you, but UT3 without mods is pretty weaksauce. Imagine Crysis MP without the ability to create mods? It would be fun for a week or so then get boring. I might be going out on a limb here, but games like UT and Quake are all about mods. Take that away and you have "Generic Shooter 3"

[QUOTE="wisdomWarrior"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

Unreal Tournamant 3= Butchererd Unreal game and for all intents and purposes terrible compared to previous Unreal games.

And as far as im concerned id rather keep playing Halo 3, Call of Duty 4, Gears of War, and Rainbow Six Vegas on the 360.

IF i wanted to play Unreal 3, id play on my PC.

ziggy87

Most of the games you mention there are probably better on PC as well, so I'm not sure I understand your comparison.

gears 360- 9.6 gears pc- 9.0

cod 4 360- 9.0 cod 4 pc- 9.0

Rainbow six Vegas 360- 9.0 Rainbow six Vegas pc- 8.7

halo 3 360-9.5 halo 3 pc- has not even been announced yet

i dont know how you can say they are probly all better on the pc

I can see where you are coming from with review scores. That's a fair point but I don't think that's how it works. I think when reviewers review their games, the score is more related to how it plays for a particular platform. Having said that it is usually a close comparison these days since the games don't change that much. I'd have to go through and read each review to be sure.

I guess an easy example would be medal of honour on wii. Is medal of honour for wii going to be better or worse than medal of honour on PC?--but then again medal of honour probably did get a poor review compared to the PC version anyway, which would re-enforce your point of view.

I don't know, but I don't compare games between PC and Console. I would expect that games that are made for PC or at the same time as console to be just as good or better on a PC because the hardware on a PC can be a lot more powerful.

The other issue that is in your favour is that a lot of these games have the same specifications as the console versions such as COD4 etc. They are essentially the same games so I guess they can be compared.

Hmm...now I'm not sure...

Look at this comparison of top spin

http://www.videogamer.com/videos/player.html?vid=1944&playlistid=2154

It is on wii/360/ps3. Now if it gets a 9 on wii and an 8 on 360 and ps3, does that mean the wii version is better?

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]I have it on PC, and even with the modding community behind it, it's still a phail game.wisdomWarrior

It is a phail game because not enough people are playing it online. Essentially the game got of to a bad start when they released a broken beta demo on PC. It never fully recovered from that point.

If people would actually get online and play, I bet they'd have more fun. But alas you are right...it is a phail game as it stands.

I was hoping that this could change of the 360 community gets into the multiplayer in a big way. I had high hopes :(

Then Buy it, I'll be a first day buyer, if you just base what you like off of what people on SW tell you... That's just petty. I need a good UT game because only Halo 3 is a worthy FPS to me this year, I just don't get into the other games, I started FPS's with UT and then Halo, and I don't like the military things at all, hated CS and COD4 suxxors IMO. I'll be online with UT for a long time if there are enough people interested.