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#1 KeyWii
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They've been using the Gears of War graphics card for months now... How many games will need to suprass it graphically before they admit it's not the greatest thing God ever created.

I am sure Lemmings were hoping to switch their hype machine over to Forza 2, or even Halo 3 a lot sooner, but instead those games' graphics have fallen into cracks of obscurity.

So you've leapfrogged most of your major games and headed straight to Mass Effect. Can we find the common denominator for the Lemming hype machine? Unreal Engine 3. Can your machine not produce a good looking next-gen game without it? I guess I can think of one, Bioshock, but it's coming to PC so thats pretty much a multi-plat (Hello PS3)

PlayStation 3 has GT:HD, F1, MotorStorm, Lair, Drake's Fortune, Metal Gear Solid 4, Ratchet and Clank, & R:FOM all producing great looking graphics without the need for UE3. However, I am glad our machine supports UE3 all the same.
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#2 nextgengaming18
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RFOM isn't impressive graphically at all.
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#3 Baird-06
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Whatever, I don't really care. I'm not a graphics whore.
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PS3 games are not worth the hype eh? :lol:

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They've been using the Gears of War graphics card for months now... How many games will need to suprass it graphically before they admit it's not the greatest thing God ever created.

I am sure Lemmings were hoping to switch their hype machine over to Forza 2, or even Halo 3 a lot sooner, but instead those games' graphics have fallen into cracks of obscurity.

So you've leapfrogged most of your major games and headed straight to Mass Effect. Can we find the common denominator for the Lemming hype machine? Unreal Engine 3. Can your machine not produce a good looking next-gen game without it? I guess I can think of one, Bioshock, but it's coming to PC so thats pretty much a multi-plat (Hello PS3)

PlayStation 3 has GT:HD, F1, MotorStorm, Lair, Drake's Fortune, Metal Gear Solid 4, Ratchet and Clank, & R:FOM all producing great looking graphics without the need for UE3. However, I am glad our machine supports UE3 all the same.KeyWii
Ok...Blue Dragon.... /thread....
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#7 Prid3r
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PD0 and Kameo look better then RFOM ( and pretty much the entire PS3 line-up ) !
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#8 Vyse_The_Daring
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Maybe they've been using the "gears of war graphics card" for months because no game has surpassed it visually. Thinking is fun. :)
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#9 GoldenEye005
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Whatever, I don't really care. I'm not a graphics whore.Baird-06

I am:D

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#10 GermanShepard06
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PD0 and Kameo look better then RFOM ( and pretty much the entire PS3 line-up ) !Prid3r

:lol:

u like self ownage or something?

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#11 karicha9
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Lemmings have it rough because of a AAA game on their system?
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You're making the umbrella generalization that the only good looking games on the 360 are Unreal Engine 3 games, but at the same time every big PS3 franchise will look good by default. I'm not seeing the equivalency in your argument.
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You're making the umbrella generalization that the only good looking games on the 360 are Unreal Engine 3 games, but at the same time every big PS3 franchise will look good by default. I'm not seeing the equivalency in your argument.bman784
The two biggest graphically hyped games on the 360 are Gears of War and Mass Effect. That is an undeniable fact.
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#15 GermanShepard06
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RFOM isn't impressive graphically at all. nextgengaming18

but playing an 8 hour game with stupid AI, poor animations, 4 enemies on screen at once, 4vs4 online, no destructable environment is very impressive?

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[QUOTE="bman784"]You're making the umbrella generalization that the only good looking games on the 360 are Unreal Engine 3 games, but at the same time every big PS3 franchise will look good by default. I'm not seeing the equivalency in your argument.KeyWii
The two biggest graphically hyped games on the 360 are Gears of War and Mass Effect. That is an undeniable fact.


Alan wake .
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[QUOTE="nextgengaming18"]RFOM isn't impressive graphically at all. GermanShepard06

but playing an 8 hour game with stupid AI, poor animations, 4 enemies on screen at once, 4vs4 online, no destructable environment is very impressive?

Are you honestly gonna make someone show you all the reviews with 10's in graphics, or will you just quit now?
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#18 KeyWii
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[QUOTE="KeyWii"][QUOTE="bman784"]You're making the umbrella generalization that the only good looking games on the 360 are Unreal Engine 3 games, but at the same time every big PS3 franchise will look good by default. I'm not seeing the equivalency in your argument.Prid3r
The two biggest graphically hyped games on the 360 are Gears of War and Mass Effect. That is an undeniable fact.


Alan wake .

2009? LOL PS3 will destroy it by then if the game doesn't get canceled in the meantime. FFXIII already looks better than Alan Wake. God of War 3 would crush it also.
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#19 echelon
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RFOM isn't impressive graphically at all. nextgengaming18

I actually agree with this somewhat. The weird thing though is that this is the only game that has gotten a 9 for graphics on the PS3. According to GS Resistance looks better then VF5 and F1.
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[QUOTE="KeyWii"]They've been using the Gears of War graphics card for months now... How many games will need to suprass it graphically before they admit it's not the greatest thing God ever created.

I am sure Lemmings were hoping to switch their hype machine over to Forza 2, or even Halo 3 a lot sooner, but instead those games' graphics have fallen into cracks of obscurity.

So you've leapfrogged most of your major games and headed straight to Mass Effect. Can we find the common denominator for the Lemming hype machine? Unreal Engine 3. Can your machine not produce a good looking next-gen game without it? I guess I can think of one, Bioshock, but it's coming to PC so thats pretty much a multi-plat (Hello PS3)

PlayStation 3 has GT:HD, F1, MotorStorm, Lair, Drake's Fortune, Metal Gear Solid 4, Ratchet and Clank, & R:FOM all producing great looking graphics without the need for UE3. However, I am glad our machine supports UE3 all the same.killaj2786
Ok...Blue Dragon.... /thread....

Bio Shock /thread
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#21 cheezisgoooood
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Another KeyWii thread oh boy.

You like to hide behind the PC a lot to defend your PS3.  It's embarassing.

Considering the fact that PS3 also has no chance of ever competing with PCs graphically I don't see any sort of argument in your post that says "this is the reason why PS3 is better than 360".

You can always try again though.

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#22 DHReese
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I think Keywii is just trying to distract from his GTA complaining thread. Besides, if the engine gives great games, the problem is?...

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#23 Vyse_The_Daring
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[QUOTE="Prid3r"][QUOTE="KeyWii"][QUOTE="bman784"]You're making the umbrella generalization that the only good looking games on the 360 are Unreal Engine 3 games, but at the same time every big PS3 franchise will look good by default. I'm not seeing the equivalency in your argument.KeyWii
The two biggest graphically hyped games on the 360 are Gears of War and Mass Effect. That is an undeniable fact.


Alan wake .

2009? LOL PS3 will destroy it by then if the game doesn't get canceled in the meantime.

*Looks through KeWii's eyes* Oh now I see: no new 360 games will be announced by 2009, nor will Alan Wake improve graphically, thus the PS3 wins by default. :roll:
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[QUOTE="nextgengaming18"]RFOM isn't impressive graphically at all. GermanShepard06

but playing an 8 hour game with stupid AI, poor animations, 4 enemies on screen at once, 4vs4 online, no destructable environment is very impressive?



And yet. Gears outscores RFOM.  Go figure.
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#25 Vandalvideo
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None of those PS3 games are even out -_-.
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#26 MTBare
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When UT3 comes out it's going to be the best looking PS3 game, and it'll be UE3.. And it will be the same on 360. And PC will pwnt them both.
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#27 GermanShepard06
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[QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]

[QUOTE="nextgengaming18"]RFOM isn't impressive graphically at all. VoodooHak

but playing an 8 hour game with stupid AI, poor animations, 4 enemies on screen at once, 4vs4 online, no destructable environment is very impressive?



And yet. Gears outscores RFOM.  Go figure.

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#28 KeyWii
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[QUOTE="KeyWii"][QUOTE="Prid3r"][QUOTE="KeyWii"][QUOTE="bman784"]You're making the umbrella generalization that the only good looking games on the 360 are Unreal Engine 3 games, but at the same time every big PS3 franchise will look good by default. I'm not seeing the equivalency in your argument.Vyse_The_Daring
The two biggest graphically hyped games on the 360 are Gears of War and Mass Effect. That is an undeniable fact.


Alan wake .

2009? LOL PS3 will destroy it by then if the game doesn't get canceled in the meantime.

*Looks through KeWii's eyes* Oh now I see: no new 360 games will be announced by 2009, nor will Alan Wake improve graphically, thus the PS3 wins by default. :roll:

FFXIII already beats Alan Wake.
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They've been using the Gears of War graphics card for months now... How many games will need to suprass it graphically before they admit it's not the greatest thing God ever created.

I am sure Lemmings were hoping to switch their hype machine over to Forza 2, or even Halo 3 a lot sooner, but instead those games' graphics have fallen into cracks of obscurity.

So you've leapfrogged most of your major games and headed straight to Mass Effect. Can we find the common denominator for the Lemming hype machine? Unreal Engine 3. Can your machine not produce a good looking next-gen game without it? I guess I can think of one, Bioshock, but it's coming to PC so thats pretty much a multi-plat (Hello PS3)

PlayStation 3 has GT:HD, F1, MotorStorm, Lair, Drake's Fortune, Metal Gear Solid 4, Ratchet and Clank, & R:FOM all producing great looking graphics without the need for UE3. However, I am glad our machine supports UE3 all the same.KeyWii

You act as if the 360 isn't going to improve and that it doesn't have great looking exclusives that don't use UE3. Besides, it's just a graphics engine. Even it can be made to look like crap in the hands of a terible developer. It takes talented developers to create great looking games using that engine, and appropriately powerful hardware. The same goes for any graphics engine.

Another thing is, there are a good number of multiplatform games that look and perform better on the Xbox 360. And don't hand me that "bu...bu...the developers need more time!" excuse because that's not going to fly here. Last gen, the Xbox was proven to be more powerful than the PS2 on day one. Games such as DOA 3 which is still, after all these years one of the best looking games of the previous gen, blew away even the PS2's best second gen offerings graphically. The same is not true this time. The Xbox 360 has shown it's graphical superiority with Gears of War, which, even though the PS3 is supposed to be more powerful than the 360, outshines everything available on the PS3 right now.

In terms of graphical prowess, the Xbox 360 has PGR 3, DOA 4, Gears of War, GRAW and many others, available right now, which really show off the system's power. Gears of War is not the only game. Stop making excuses as to why the PS3 can't outperform the 360 right now and why the best looking games use UE3. Think of it like a car. UE3 is just an engine. Without the proper fuel (developers, and the Xbox 360 itself), it can't do anything.

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[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"][QUOTE="KeyWii"][QUOTE="Prid3r"][QUOTE="KeyWii"][QUOTE="bman784"]You're making the umbrella generalization that the only good looking games on the 360 are Unreal Engine 3 games, but at the same time every big PS3 franchise will look good by default. I'm not seeing the equivalency in your argument.KeyWii
The two biggest graphically hyped games on the 360 are Gears of War and Mass Effect. That is an undeniable fact.


Alan wake .

2009? LOL PS3 will destroy it by then if the game doesn't get canceled in the meantime.

*Looks through KeWii's eyes* Oh now I see: no new 360 games will be announced by 2009, nor will Alan Wake improve graphically, thus the PS3 wins by default. :roll:

FFXIII already beats Alan Wake.

yeah cg is nice.
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#31 Vyse_The_Daring
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[QUOTE="VoodooHak"][QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]

[QUOTE="nextgengaming18"]RFOM isn't impressive graphically at all. GermanShepard06

but playing an 8 hour game with stupid AI, poor animations, 4 enemies on screen at once, 4vs4 online, no destructable environment is very impressive?



And yet. Gears outscores RFOM.  Go figure.

money does wonders my friend.

Yep, with money you can spend more on development and produce a better game: good job Epic. I think this is the smartest thing you've ever said.
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[QUOTE="Prid3r"][QUOTE="KeyWii"][QUOTE="bman784"]You're making the umbrella generalization that the only good looking games on the 360 are Unreal Engine 3 games, but at the same time every big PS3 franchise will look good by default. I'm not seeing the equivalency in your argument.KeyWii
The two biggest graphically hyped games on the 360 are Gears of War and Mass Effect. That is an undeniable fact.


Alan wake .

2009? LOL PS3 will destroy it by then if the game doesn't get canceled in the meantime. FFXIII already looks better than Alan Wake. God of War 3 would crush it also.

Yeah sure. :lol: Halo 3 will kill any PS3 game this year. Alan Wake is real graphics not CGI. I remember Cows saying in six months the PS3 will destroy the 360. :lol:

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All fanboys have it hard... they fail to open themselves up to a larger variety of games and enjoyment. Thus leaving the great experiences to us gamers.
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#34 KeyWii
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[QUOTE="KeyWii"][QUOTE="Prid3r"][QUOTE="KeyWii"][QUOTE="bman784"]You're making the umbrella generalization that the only good looking games on the 360 are Unreal Engine 3 games, but at the same time every big PS3 franchise will look good by default. I'm not seeing the equivalency in your argument.PS3_3DO

The two biggest graphically hyped games on the 360 are Gears of War and Mass Effect. That is an undeniable fact.


Alan wake .

2009? LOL PS3 will destroy it by then if the game doesn't get canceled in the meantime. FFXIII already looks better than Alan Wake. God of War 3 would crush it also.

Yeah sure. :lol: Halo 3 will kill any PS3 game this year. Alan Wake is real graphics not CGI. I remember Cows saying in six months the PS3 will destroy the 360. :lol:

Last I checked the previous Halo's only received a 9 in graphics, and this 3rd one doesn't seem to be on track to be any different.
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[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

[QUOTE="KeyWii"][QUOTE="Prid3r"][QUOTE="KeyWii"][QUOTE="bman784"]You're making the umbrella generalization that the only good looking games on the 360 are Unreal Engine 3 games, but at the same time every big PS3 franchise will look good by default. I'm not seeing the equivalency in your argument.KeyWii

The two biggest graphically hyped games on the 360 are Gears of War and Mass Effect. That is an undeniable fact.


Alan wake .

2009? LOL PS3 will destroy it by then if the game doesn't get canceled in the meantime. FFXIII already looks better than Alan Wake. God of War 3 would crush it also.

Yeah sure. :lol: Halo 3 will kill any PS3 game this year. Alan Wake is real graphics not CGI. I remember Cows saying in six months the PS3 will destroy the 360. :lol:

Last I checked the previous Halo's only received a 9 in graphics, and this 3rd one doesn't seem to be on track to be any different.

good thing graphics make the game better right :cough F1 cough:
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[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

[QUOTE="KeyWii"][QUOTE="Prid3r"][QUOTE="KeyWii"][QUOTE="bman784"]You're making the umbrella generalization that the only good looking games on the 360 are Unreal Engine 3 games, but at the same time every big PS3 franchise will look good by default. I'm not seeing the equivalency in your argument.KeyWii

The two biggest graphically hyped games on the 360 are Gears of War and Mass Effect. That is an undeniable fact.


Alan wake .

2009? LOL PS3 will destroy it by then if the game doesn't get canceled in the meantime. FFXIII already looks better than Alan Wake. God of War 3 would crush it also.

Yeah sure. :lol: Halo 3 will kill any PS3 game this year. Alan Wake is real graphics not CGI. I remember Cows saying in six months the PS3 will destroy the 360. :lol:

Last I checked the previous Halo's only received a 9 in graphics, and this 3rd one doesn't seem to be on track to be any different.

The first Halo got a 10 I believe.

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[QUOTE="bman784"]You're making the umbrella generalization that the only good looking games on the 360 are Unreal Engine 3 games, but at the same time every big PS3 franchise will look good by default. I'm not seeing the equivalency in your argument.KeyWii
The two biggest graphically hyped games on the 360 are Gears of War and Mass Effect. That is an undeniable fact.

You're right that those two games are hyped (and rightfully so) but what's the point? I don't see how the 360's utilization of an excellent game engine is any sort of a negative. It's a bit shallow saying that only hyped games can be analyzed in comparison when you mention a number of games yourself that haven't been significantly hyped. I'd look a little more before you draw conclusions.
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#38 MTBare
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[QUOTE="GermanShepard06"][QUOTE="VoodooHak"][QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]

[QUOTE="nextgengaming18"]RFOM isn't impressive graphically at all. Vyse_The_Daring

but playing an 8 hour game with stupid AI, poor animations, 4 enemies on screen at once, 4vs4 online, no destructable environment is very impressive?



And yet. Gears outscores RFOM. Go figure.

money does wonders my friend.

Yep, with money you can spend more on development and produce a better game: good job Epic. I think this is the smartest thing you've ever said.

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#39 StephenKing_1
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100+ million ps1's sold.

100+ million ps2's sold.

And the ps3 is getting outsold 4 months after launch by a graphically inferior console with apparently only one good looking game (GeOW), pay to play online service, and just a standard dvd drive?

Yeah, it's the 360 that sucks. :roll:

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#40 KeyWii
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The first Halo got a 10 I believe.

PS3_3DO

No, it got a 9

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#41 Kahuna_1
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KeyWii i gotta hand it too you, your good at starting wars
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#42 earthking
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Why do gamers look at games for graphics not...You know, actual gameplay?
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#43 KeyWii
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100+ million ps1's sold.

100+ million ps2's sold.

And the ps3 is getting outsold 4 months after launch by a graphically inferior console with apparently only one good looking game (GeOW), pay to play online service, and just a standard dvd drive?

Yeah, it's the 360 that sucks. :roll:

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PS3 has has sold faster than X360.
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I hate to be a buzz kill but EVERY ps3 game you listed looks inferior to 360 launch titles
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#45 rocktimusprime
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[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]The first Halo got a 10 I believe.

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No, it got a 9

How many games on PS3 got high graphics scores but didn't break the 9 barrier? Oh wait, so far all of them.
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#46 XboxUnderground
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100+ million ps1's sold.

100+ million ps2's sold.

And the ps3 is getting outsold 4 months after launch by a graphically inferior console with apparently only one good looking game (GeOW), pay to play online service, and just a standard dvd drive?

Yeah, it's the 360 that sucks. :roll:

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PS3 has has sold faster than X360.

PS3 also isn't dealing with shortages MS just filled their preorders in january and it wasn't readily available until mid-late march that's 5 months of shortages PS3's have been on shelves at every store since december
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#47 wiistation360
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gundam:crossfire 2 will own geow:lol:
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#48 Kahuna_1
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Why do gamers look at games for graphics not...You know, actual gameplay?earthking

i guess its because "teh super high rez textures" and "teh jaggieszzz free" make the game better...oh wait no they dont, ff7 looked like junk and was amazing

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#49 KeyWii
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[QUOTE="KeyWii"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]The first Halo got a 10 I believe.

rocktimusprime

No, it got a 9

How many games on PS3 got high graphics scores but didn't break the 9 barrier? Oh wait, so far all of them.

The first game to get a 10 in graphics on the PS3 will kill anything the X360 has at that current point in time.
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#50 rocktimusprime
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[QUOTE="KeyWii"][QUOTE="StephenKing_1"]

100+ million ps1's sold.

100+ million ps2's sold.

And the ps3 is getting outsold 4 months after launch by a graphically inferior console with apparently only one good looking game (GeOW), pay to play online service, and just a standard dvd drive?

Yeah, it's the 360 that sucks. :roll:

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PS3 has has sold faster than X360.

PS3 also isn't dealing with shortages MS just filled their preorders in january and it wasn't readily available until mid-late march that's 5 months of shortages PS3's have been on shelves at every store since december

Yeah and you couldn't find 360 in store this time last year, yet you can go anywhere to get a PS3.