Lemmings got it tough....

[QUOTE="KeyWii"][QUOTE="StephenKing_1"]

100+ million ps1's sold.

100+ million ps2's sold.

And the ps3 is getting outsold 4 months after launch by a graphically inferior console with apparently only one good looking game (GeOW), pay to play online service, and just a standard dvd drive?

Yeah, it's the 360 that sucks. :roll:

XboxUnderground

[QUOTE="rocktimusprime"][QUOTE="KeyWii"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]The first Halo got a 10 I believe.

KeyWii

[QUOTE="StephenKing_1"]

100 million ps1's sold.

100 million ps2's sold.

And the ps3 is getting outsold 4 months after launch by a graphically inferior console with apparently only one good looking game (GeOW), pay to play online service, and just a standard dvd drive?

Yeah, it's the 360 that sucks. :roll:

KeyWii

I think you should know the X360 had shortages in the first four months after being released. This means nothing.

[QUOTE="rocktimusprime"][QUOTE="KeyWii"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]The first Halo got a 10 I believe.

KeyWii

[QUOTE="earthking"]Why do gamers look at games for graphics not...You know, actual gameplay?Kahuna_1

i guess its because "teh super high rez textures" and "teh jaggieszzz free" make the game better...oh wait no they dont, ff7 looked like junk and was amazing

[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]

[QUOTE="earthking"]Why do gamers look at games for graphics not...You know, actual gameplay?earthking

i guess its because "teh super high rez textures" and "teh jaggieszzz free" make the game better...oh wait no they dont, ff7 looked like junk and was amazing

i honestly didnt know where i was going with it...lol :P, but yeah who cares about graphics

[QUOTE="earthking"][QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]

[QUOTE="earthking"]Why do gamers look at games for graphics not...You know, actual gameplay?Kahuna_1

i guess its because "teh super high rez textures" and "teh jaggieszzz free" make the game better...oh wait no they dont, ff7 looked like junk and was amazing

i honestly didnt know where i was going with it...lol :P, but yeah who cares about graphics

[QUOTE="KeyWii"]They've been using the Gears of War graphics card for months now... How many games will need to suprass it graphically before they admit it's not the greatest thing God ever created.

I am sure Lemmings were hoping to switch their hype machine over to Forza 2, or even Halo 3 a lot sooner, but instead those games' graphics have fallen into cracks of obscurity.

So you've leapfrogged most of your major games and headed straight to Mass Effect. Can we find the common denominator for the Lemming hype machine? Unreal Engine 3. Can your machine not produce a good looking next-gen game without it? I guess I can think of one, Bioshock, but it's coming to PC so thats pretty much a multi-plat (Hello PS3)

PlayStation 3 has GT:HD, F1, MotorStorm, Lair, Drake's Fortune, Metal Gear Solid 4, Ratchet and Clank, & R:FOM all producing great looking graphics without the need for UE3. However, I am glad our machine supports UE3 all the same.The_Game21x

You act as if the 360 isn't going to improve and that it doesn't have great looking exclusives that don't use UE3. Besides, it's just a graphics engine. Even it can be made to look like crap in the hands of a terible developer. It takes talented developers to create great looking games using that engine, and appropriately powerful hardware. The same goes for any graphics engine.

Another thing is, there are a good number of multiplatform games that look and perform better on the Xbox 360. And don't hand me that "bu...bu...the developers need more time!" excuse because that's not going to fly here. Last gen, the Xbox was proven to be more powerful than the PS2 on day one. Games such as DOA 3 which is still, after all these years one of the best looking games of the previous gen, blew away even the PS2's best second gen offerings graphically. The same is not true this time. The Xbox 360 has shown it's graphical superiority with Gears of War, which, even though the PS3 is supposed to be more powerful than the 360, outshines everything available on the PS3 right now.

In terms of graphical prowess, the Xbox 360 has PGR 3, DOA 4, Gears of War, GRAW and many others, available right now, which really show off the system's power. Gears of War is not the only game. Stop making excuses as to why the PS3 can't outperform the 360 right now and why the best looking games use UE3. Think of it like a car. UE3 is just an engine. Without the proper fuel (developers, and the Xbox 360 itself), it can't do anything.

And yet again, my post is bypassed by the TC...hmm...I wonder why? :wink:

[QUOTE="KeyWii"][QUOTE="StephenKing_1"]

100 million ps1's sold.

100 million ps2's sold.

And the ps3 is getting outsold 4 months after launch by a graphically inferior console with apparently only one good looking game (GeOW), pay to play online service, and just a standard dvd drive?

Yeah, it's the 360 that sucks. :roll:

PS3_3DO

I think you should know the X360 had shortages in the first four months after being released. This means nothing.

[QUOTE="XboxUnderground"][QUOTE="KeyWii"][QUOTE="StephenKing_1"]

100+ million ps1's sold.

100+ million ps2's sold.

And the ps3 is getting outsold 4 months after launch by a graphically inferior console with apparently only one good looking game (GeOW), pay to play online service, and just a standard dvd drive?

Yeah, it's the 360 that sucks. :roll:

KeyWii

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="KeyWii"][QUOTE="StephenKing_1"]

100 million ps1's sold.

100 million ps2's sold.

And the ps3 is getting outsold 4 months after launch by a graphically inferior console with apparently only one good looking game (GeOW), pay to play online service, and just a standard dvd drive?

Yeah, it's the 360 that sucks. :roll:

KeyWii

I think you should know the X360 had shortages in the first four months after being released. This means nothing.

It was not due to them launching in three territories. One territory more isn't gong to make that big of a difference.

There were shortages because MS couldn't manufacture them fast enough to meet demand.

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="KeyWii"][QUOTE="StephenKing_1"]

100 million ps1's sold.

100 million ps2's sold.

And the ps3 is getting outsold 4 months after launch by a graphically inferior console with apparently only one good looking game (GeOW), pay to play online service, and just a standard dvd drive?

Yeah, it's the 360 that sucks. :roll:

KeyWii

I think you should know the X360 had shortages in the first four months after being released. This means nothing.

Are we in December of 05?  Neither console has shortages at the moment, and yet the 360 is outselling the ps3.

Explain?

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="KeyWii"][QUOTE="StephenKing_1"]

100 million ps1's sold.

100 million ps2's sold.

And the ps3 is getting outsold 4 months after launch by a graphically inferior console with apparently only one good looking game (GeOW), pay to play online service, and just a standard dvd drive?

Yeah, it's the 360 that sucks. :roll:

KeyWii

I think you should know the X360 had shortages in the first four months after being released. This means nothing.

Only proving my point that if the 360 had only Asia and North America and had no shortages than it would have sold more than the PS3 is currently doing now. Another thing to factor in PS3 sells are people buying it only for a Blu-Ray player.

[QUOTE="KeyWii"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="KeyWii"][QUOTE="StephenKing_1"]

100 million ps1's sold.

100 million ps2's sold.

And the ps3 is getting outsold 4 months after launch by a graphically inferior console with apparently only one good looking game (GeOW), pay to play online service, and just a standard dvd drive?

Yeah, it's the 360 that sucks. :roll:

The_Game21x

I think you should know the X360 had shortages in the first four months after being released. This means nothing.

It was not due to them launching in three territories. One territory more isn't gong to make that big of a difference.

There were shortages because MS couldn't manufacture them fast enough to meet demand.

They've been using the Gears of War graphics card for months now... How many games will need to suprass it graphically before they admit it's not the greatest thing God ever created.

I am sure Lemmings were hoping to switch their hype machine over to Forza 2, or even Halo 3 a lot sooner, but instead those games' graphics have fallen into cracks of obscurity.

So you've leapfrogged most of your major games and headed straight to Mass Effect. Can we find the common denominator for the Lemming hype machine? Unreal Engine 3. Can your machine not produce a good looking next-gen game without it? I guess I can think of one, Bioshock, but it's coming to PC so thats pretty much a multi-plat (Hello PS3)

PlayStation 3 has GT:HD, F1, MotorStorm, Lair, Drake's Fortune, Metal Gear Solid 4, Ratchet and Clank, & R:FOM all producing great looking graphics without the need for UE3. However, I am glad our machine supports UE3 all the same.KeyWii

......What?

As long as the games look and play better than PS3 games, I fail to see what the problem is. :D 

[QUOTE="KeyWii"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="KeyWii"][QUOTE="StephenKing_1"]

100 million ps1's sold.

100 million ps2's sold.

And the ps3 is getting outsold 4 months after launch by a graphically inferior console with apparently only one good looking game (GeOW), pay to play online service, and just a standard dvd drive?

Yeah, it's the 360 that sucks. :roll:

PS3_3DO

I think you should know the X360 had shortages in the first four months after being released. This means nothing.

Only proving my point that if the 360 had only Asia and North America and had no shortages than it would have sold more than the PS3 is currently doing now. Another thing to factor in PS3 sells are people buying it only for a Blu-Ray player.

......What?

As long as the games look and play better than PS3 games, I fail to see what the problem is. :D

fatzombiepigeon

you guys are graphics whores...unbelievable..

KeyWii loses the graphics debate (horribly): moves on to sales debate. Vyse_The_Daring

[QUOTE="fatzombiepigeon"]

......What?

As long as the games look and play better than PS3 games, I fail to see what the problem is. :D

KeyWii

They've been using the Gears of War graphics card for months now... How many games will need to suprass it graphically before they admit it's not the greatest thing God ever created.

I am sure Lemmings were hoping to switch their hype machine over to Forza 2, or even Halo 3 a lot sooner, but instead those games' graphics have fallen into cracks of obscurity.

So you've leapfrogged most of your major games and headed straight to Mass Effect. Can we find the common denominator for the Lemming hype machine? Unreal Engine 3. Can your machine not produce a good looking next-gen game without it? I guess I can think of one, Bioshock, but it's coming to PC so thats pretty much a multi-plat (Hello PS3)

PlayStation 3 has GT:HD, F1, MotorStorm, Lair, Drake's Fortune, Metal Gear Solid 4, Ratchet and Clank, & R:FOM all producing great looking graphics without the need for UE3. However, I am glad our machine supports UE3 all the same.KeyWii

They've been using the Gears of War graphics card for months now... How many games will need to suprass it graphically before they admit it's not the greatest thing God ever created.

I am sure Lemmings were hoping to switch their hype machine over to Forza 2, or even Halo 3 a lot sooner, but instead those games' graphics have fallen into cracks of obscurity.

So you've leapfrogged most of your major games and headed straight to Mass Effect. Can we find the common denominator for the Lemming hype machine? Unreal Engine 3. Can your machine not produce a good looking next-gen game without it? I guess I can think of one, Bioshock, but it's coming to PC so thats pretty much a multi-plat (Hello PS3)

PlayStation 3 has GT:HD, F1, MotorStorm, Lair, Drake's Fortune, Metal Gear Solid 4, Ratchet and Clank, & R:FOM all producing great looking graphics without the need for UE3. However, I am glad our machine supports UE3 all the same.KeyWii

[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"]KeyWii loses the graphics debate (horribly): moves on to sales debate. KeyWii

you guys are graphics whores...unbelievable..

Kahuna_1

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="KeyWii"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="KeyWii"][QUOTE="StephenKing_1"]

100 million ps1's sold.

100 million ps2's sold.

And the ps3 is getting outsold 4 months after launch by a graphically inferior console with apparently only one good looking game (GeOW), pay to play online service, and just a standard dvd drive?

Yeah, it's the 360 that sucks. :roll:

KeyWii

I think you should know the X360 had shortages in the first four months after being released. This means nothing.

It was not due to them launching in three territories. One territory more isn't gong to make that big of a difference.

There were shortages because MS couldn't manufacture them fast enough to meet demand.

Oh okay, since the only reason the 360 had shortages is because it launched simulataneously in North America, Japan and Europe...

Then why isn't the Wii suffering from the same shortages? :|

[QUOTE="KeyWii"]They've been using the Gears of War graphics card for months now... How many games will need to suprass it graphically before they admit it's not the greatest thing God ever created.

I am sure Lemmings were hoping to switch their hype machine over to Forza 2, or even Halo 3 a lot sooner, but instead those games' graphics have fallen into cracks of obscurity.

So you've leapfrogged most of your major games and headed straight to Mass Effect. Can we find the common denominator for the Lemming hype machine? Unreal Engine 3. Can your machine not produce a good looking next-gen game without it? I guess I can think of one, Bioshock, but it's coming to PC so thats pretty much a multi-plat (Hello PS3)

PlayStation 3 has GT:HD, F1, MotorStorm, Lair, Drake's Fortune, Metal Gear Solid 4, Ratchet and Clank, & R:FOM all producing great looking graphics without the need for UE3. However, I am glad our machine supports UE3 all the same.xguy47

[QUOTE="KeyWii"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="KeyWii"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="KeyWii"][QUOTE="StephenKing_1"]

100 million ps1's sold.

100 million ps2's sold.

And the ps3 is getting outsold 4 months after launch by a graphically inferior console with apparently only one good looking game (GeOW), pay to play online service, and just a standard dvd drive?

Yeah, it's the 360 that sucks. :roll:

The_Game21x

I think you should know the X360 had shortages in the first four months after being released. This means nothing.

It was not due to them launching in three territories. One territory more isn't gong to make that big of a difference.

There were shortages because MS couldn't manufacture them fast enough to meet demand.

Oh okay, since the only reason the 360 had shortages is because it launched simulataneously in North America, Japan and Europe...

Then why isn't the Wii suffering from the same shortages? :|

Oh okay, since the only reason the 360 had shortages is because it launched simulataneously in North America, Japan and Europe...

Then why isn't the Wii suffering from the same shortages? :|

The_Game21x

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Oh okay, since the only reason the 360 had shortages is because it launched simulataneously in North America, Japan and Europe...

Then why isn't the Wii suffering from the same shortages? :|

KeyWii

But wait, according to what you said earlier, the only reason the 360 suffered from shortages is because of the European launch in addition to the NA and Japan launches.

But that's clearly not the case, because the Wii isn't suffering from mass shortages due to manufacturing problems like the 360 was...that's odd...

Just this....

KeyWii

Effect. Can we find the common denominator for the Lemming hype machine? Unreal Engine 3. Can your machine not produce a good looking next-gen game without it? I guess I can think of one, Bioshock, but it's coming to PC so thats pretty much a multi-plat (Hello PS3)
KeyWii

wow, just simply wow. Why would we use an engine that is not as good as something else? Does anybody not want their games to look as good as they can?  hmm, makes me wonder how old you are. Do you even know what engine your "OMFG PS3  PWNS TEH XBOX 360" games use? didint think so. Oh and another thing, Bungie has made an new engine that halo 3 will run on, dont belive me? go check it out for yourself.

[QUOTE="KeyWii"]Effect. Can we find the common denominator for the Lemming hype machine? Unreal Engine 3. Can your machine not produce a good looking next-gen game without it? I guess I can think of one, Bioshock, but it's coming to PC so thats pretty much a multi-plat (Hello PS3)
MasterChief4249

wow, just simply wow. Why would we use an engine that is not as good as something else? Does anybody not want their games to look as good as they can?  hmm, makes me wonder how old you are. Do you even know what engine your "OMFG PS3  PWNS TEH XBOX 360" games use? didint think so. Oh and another thing, Bungie has made an new engine that halo 3 will run on, dont belive me? go check it out for yourself.

[QUOTE="xguy47"][QUOTE="KeyWii"]They've been using the Gears of War graphics card for months now... How many games will need to suprass it graphically before they admit it's not the greatest thing God ever created.

I am sure Lemmings were hoping to switch their hype machine over to Forza 2, or even Halo 3 a lot sooner, but instead those games' graphics have fallen into cracks of obscurity.

So you've leapfrogged most of your major games and headed straight to Mass Effect. Can we find the common denominator for the Lemming hype machine? Unreal Engine 3. Can your machine not produce a good looking next-gen game without it? I guess I can think of one, Bioshock, but it's coming to PC so thats pretty much a multi-plat (Hello PS3)

PlayStation 3 has GT:HD, F1, MotorStorm, Lair, Drake's Fortune, Metal Gear Solid 4, Ratchet and Clank, & R:FOM all producing great looking graphics without the need for UE3. However, I am glad our machine supports UE3 all the same.KeyWii

keywii dont post ff XIII shots, Most of the e3 stuff and since stuff has been confirmed to be about 80-90% CGI, hell its been confirmed I dont have the link any more that the menus and such we're digitally inserted onto the CGI footage.WilliamRLBaker

[QUOTE="KeyWii"]
Just this....

foxhound_fox