LEMMINGS, the 360 is mainly a shooter's console (please read before you bash)

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#1 peaceful_anger
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Lately I've been seeing lemmings say that it is laughable or that you are a fanboy if you think the 360 is a mainly a shooter's console which, IMO, I think it is. And all I can ask you is what's so laughable or fanboyish about it? I do agree with you that the 360 has SOME diversity, but seriously look what sells the most and what gets the most hype from the majority/core 360 owners. I'll give ya a little hint: Gears of War, Call of Duty 2 and 3, Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas, F.E.A.R., Prey, Far Cry, Graw, Perfect Dark Zero, and just recently Lost Planet, Crackdown, and most likely soon to be Halo 3, Bioshock, Haze, Unreal Tournament 2007, Graw 2, The Darkness, and Shadowrun while plenty of good games that are not shooters get left in the dust like Viva Pinata and Kameo. You can even look at XBOX Live and see that the majority of games being played on it are shooters.

Now I'm not saying every every game that is not a shooter doesn't sell well because a few examples of where they do are DOA 4, Dead Rising, Saints Row, Elder Scrolls: Oblivion, and whatever sports and racing games you want to throw into the mix, but 360 owners clearly need to support other genres more if they really want a huge variety of games to come to their console instead of just more and more shooters. And by this, you can clearly see why the 360 has a shooter image and is called a shooter console. 

To be honest, I am personally more hyped for Trusty Bell, Mass Effect, Blue Dragon, Banjo Kazooie Threeie, Fable 2, and Assassin's Creed than any of the shooters I named above. And don't bring up about how this could also apply for Nintendo since only kiddy games sell on their console, because the ACTUAL kiddy games yall talk about such as Barnyard, The Ant Bully, and Happy Feet aren't selling well on the wii. It's the games that lemmings and cows like to call kiddy, even though they aren't, such as Zelda, Trauma Center, Sonic and the Secret Rings that are selling. Of course there are a few exceptions to this. I'm sorry it was long cause I know yall don't like to read that much.

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#2 AB_Uppercut
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agreed, 360 = console for shooters
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#3 heretrix
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I like shooters....:|

And no I didn't read that massive wall of text.

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#4 GEMINI_CYBORG
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Agree entirely. Cows and lemmings fail to look at actual games for Wii, just the kiddo ones. Sheesh guys, get a grip.

Lemmings and cows=pwnd!
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#5 pins_basic
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YAWN, not another one of these.
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Lately I've been seeing lemmings say that it is laughable or that you are a fanboy if you think the 360 is a mainly a shooter's console which, IMO, I think it is. And all I can ask you is what's so laughable or fanboyish about it? I do agree with you that the 360 has SOME diversity, but seriously look what sells the most and what gets the most hype from the majority/core 360 owners. I'll give ya a little hint: Gears of War, Call of Duty 2 and 3, Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas, F.E.A.R., Prey, Far Cry, Graw, Perfect Dark Zero, and just recently Lost Planet, Crackdown, and most likely soon to be Halo 3, Bioshock, Haze, Unreal Tournament 2007, Graw 2, The Darkness, and Shadowrun while plenty of good games that are not shooters get left in the dust like Viva Pinata and Kameo. You can even look at XBOX Live and see that the majority of games being played on it are shooters.

Now I'm not saying every every game that is not a shooter doesn't sell well because a few examples of where they do are DOA 4, Dead Rising, Saints Row, Elder Scrolls: Oblivion, and whatever sports and racing games you want to throw into the mix, but 360 owners clearly need to support other genres more if they really want a huge variety of games to come to their console instead of just more and more shooters. And by this, you can clearly see why the 360 has a shooter image and is called a shooter console.

To be honest, I am personally more hyped for Trusty Bell, Mass Effect, Blue Dragon, Banjo Kazooie Threeie, Fable 2, and Assassin's Creed than any of the shooters I named above. And don't bring up about how this could also apply for Nintendo since only kiddy games sell on their console, because the ACTUAL kiddy games yall talk about such as Barnyard, The Ant Bully, and Happy Feet aren't selling well on the wii. It's the games that lemmings and cows like to call kiddy, even though they aren't, such as Zelda, Trauma Center, Sonic and the Secret Rings that are selling. Of course there are a few exceptions to this. I'm sorry it was long cause I know yall don't like to read that much.

peaceful_anger

    So any game that you have a gun in is a shooter? What makes Crackdown a shooter when you don't consider Saint's Row one?
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#7 iceberg_shorty
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What's wrong with shooters?  FPS genre/Action Adventure genre>>>>>>>>> all other genres >>>>>>> dog ****>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>jrpg's
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#8 peaceful_anger
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I like shooters....:|

And no I didn't read that massive wall of text.

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I was afraid a lot of people wouldn't, so I tried to break it up to make it more readable, but I guess that didn't work. I tried to make it short too, but I just had a lot to say.
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#9 Hater3000
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Funny the only FPS i own are Geow and PDZ the rest are Racing games,Viva piñata and Crackdown.Yet having FPS only makes the x360 cooler.
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#10 freshfighter83
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I wouldn't say mainly, but I would say "If you like shooters get a 360"
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#11 Hater3000
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

I like shooters....:|

And no I didn't read that massive wall of text.

peaceful_anger
I was afraid a lot of people wouldn't, so I tried to break it up to make it more readable, but I guess that didn't work. I tried to make it short too, but I just had a lot to say.

Add funny images and the people will read.Can i reccomend you the faping gameboy?.
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#12 SpruceCaboose
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    Also, might I add, that if these shooters are being played all the time on Live, maybe, just maybe they are popular? Hmm, sounds strange, but since 360 owners keep buying shooter (along with many other titles as well if you looked at sales figures) maybe 360 owners for the most part like shooters?
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#13 shadow_lord_11
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did not read, title says it all. you = fail. 
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#14 Silvereign
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So 360 has many rpgs and its mainly a ripg's console
So 360 has many racing games and its mainly a racing games console
Please currently 360 has the largest and most diverese library. PS3 will eventually catch it but the Wii never will.
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#15 Guyzea
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Crackdown is a shooter?!?!  I just kick people around and throw objects at them.
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#16 kiruyama
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So 360 has many rpgs and its mainly a ripg's console
So 360 has many racing games and its mainly a racing games console
Please currently 360 has the largest and most diverese library. PS3 will eventually catch it but the Wii never will.
Silvereign
I just came in to tell you your post made no sense. That is all.
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#17 heyyo440
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Its funny how everyone says the 360 is a fps console, when the only game worth buying on the ps3 is a fps.
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#18 Hater3000
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Crackdown is a shooter?!?!  I just kick people around and throw objects at them.Guyzea
Yeah,i got 4 stars in CQC really fast.(I know is not CQC but you know what i mean.)
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#19 iluvmygc
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Yeah right now xbox has lots of amazing shooting out and the fan base manly loves shooters.

But 360 has more RPG's and racing game announced then then wii and ps3 combined.

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#20 supermechakirby
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never write a wall of text and ask people to read before posting the point is the 360 has more RPG's than other consoles, so its a FPS, RPG, Racing, Action adventure, fighting console :D
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#21 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

I like shooters....:|

And no I didn't read that massive wall of text.

peaceful_anger
I was afraid a lot of people wouldn't, so I tried to break it up to make it more readable, but I guess that didn't work. I tried to make it short too, but I just had a lot to say.

It's ok dude. I'm just yankin' your chain. I read it.:P
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#22 nnavidson
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Besides the Wii having minigames, name a genre either next gen machine has more of.
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#23 Guyzea
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Some Games from my collection that are not shooters:
-PGR3
-Tony Hawk's Project 8
-Test Drive Unlimited
-Oblivion
-UMK3
-Burnout: Revenge
-Need for Speed Carbon
-Dead Rising
-Splinter Cell: Double Agent
-Saints Row(sandbox?)
-Crackdown(sandbox also?)

There's more but i dont feel like posting them because WHATEVA!! i do what i want.

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#24 peaceful_anger
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I based the games that I mentioned on the genre that Gamespot gave them. You can look it up for yourself. Every shooter I named, Gamespot said was a shooter in some form or fashion whether it was a sci-fi shooter, modern tactical shooter, or historic shooter.

And I'm really not trying to bash the 360. I was just pointing out that lemmings are wrong when they say that the 360 doesn't have a shooter image or that it is a shooter console. To put it bluntly, shooters on the 360 have a much easier time selling and usually sell more than any other genre on the platform. Again there is nothing wrong with that, but if you want a huge variety of games, you have to support the diversity.

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#25 Duckyhunter
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What's wrong with shooters? FPS genre/Action Adventure genre>>>>>>>>> all other genres >>>>>>> dog ****>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>jrpg'siceberg_shorty


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#26 -KinGz-
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I got a lot of shooters but I've been playing been playing viva pinata I love shooters I see nothing wrong with it.
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#27 Cubs360
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360 excells at the shooter Genre', doesn't mean its a shooter console. Its going to have the best RPG this year, Racer, and Shooter, it also had the best RPG last year, and Shooter! I'd say the 360 is strong in shooting, RPG's, Sports, and Racing!
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#28 blurb1324
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My 360 games: Oblivion, Chromehounds, ST:L, M:UA, Kameo, NFS:MW And none of those are shooters :P While I would recommend someone who likes shooters towards the 360, I wouldn't say it's PRIMARILY shooters.
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Lately I've been seeing lemmings say that it is laughable or that you are a fanboy if you think the 360 is a mainly a shooter's console which, IMO, I think it is. And all I can ask you is what's so laughable or fanboyish about it? I do agree with you that the 360 has SOME diversity, but seriously look what sells the most and what gets the most hype from the majority/core 360 owners. I'll give ya a little hint: Gears of War, Call of Duty 2 and 3, Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas, F.E.A.R., Prey, Far Cry, Graw, Perfect Dark Zero, and just recently Lost Planet, Crackdown, and most likely soon to be Halo 3, Bioshock, Haze, Unreal Tournament 2007, Graw 2, The Darkness, and Shadowrun while plenty of good games that are not shooters get left in the dust like Viva Pinata and Kameo. You can even look at XBOX Live and see that the majority of games being played on it are shooters.

Now I'm not saying every every game that is not a shooter doesn't sell well because a few examples of where they do are DOA 4, Dead Rising, Saints Row, Elder Scrolls: Oblivion, and whatever sports and racing games you want to throw into the mix, but 360 owners clearly need to support other genres more if they really want a huge variety of games to come to their console instead of just more and more shooters. And by this, you can clearly see why the 360 has a shooter image and is called a shooter console. 

To be honest, I am personally more hyped for Trusty Bell, Mass Effect, Blue Dragon, Banjo Kazooie Threeie, Fable 2, and Assassin's Creed than any of the shooters I named above. And don't bring up about how this could also apply for Nintendo since only kiddy games sell on their console, because the ACTUAL kiddy games yall talk about such as Barnyard, The Ant Bully, and Happy Feet aren't selling well on the wii. It's the games that lemmings and cows like to call kiddy, even though they aren't, such as Zelda, Trauma Center, Sonic and the Secret Rings that are selling. Of course there are a few exceptions to this. I'm sorry it was long cause I know yall don't like to read that much.

peaceful_anger

The ones bolded are not shooters. Just because there's a gun involved doesnt neccessary make it a shooter. Other than PDZ, Gears and Lost Planet u can find the otehr games on PS3 and PC. The problem is mainly graphics. What games have the most graphical improvements.....shooters. This isnt only on 360, this counts on every system. Look at it PC, all lots of shooters. I'll remember Doom before thinking bout World of the Warcaft. PS3 : Resistance, and aint the most antcipated game for it is MGS4....which is mainly a shooter.

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#30 jg4xchamp
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well i dont think thats completely true. i know as far as exclusives for 360 the ones i want are generally shooters. halo 3, gears, bioshock, etc. but i have no problem with that. i like shooters in general. i buy more than one system anyway so i tend to always have a variety of games. i have a 360 and wii. and i have a lot of games i think i will enjoy on both like smash bros brawl, halo 3, gta 4, supermario galaxy, metroid prime 3, bioshock, too human, fire emblem, no more heroes, disaster, assassins creed, unreal tournament 3. i dont like RPG games in general so i really dont care for mass effect and blue dragon. not much of a racer so no forza 2 or pgr. never really cared for banjo kazoie but i might think about getting 3. so it isnt like the 360 doesnt offer me variety its just my own personal taste uses the 360 more for the shooters thats all.
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#31 peaceful_anger
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[QUOTE="peaceful_anger"]

Lately I've been seeing lemmings say that it is laughable or that you are a fanboy if you think the 360 is a mainly a shooter's console which, IMO, I think it is. And all I can ask you is what's so laughable or fanboyish about it? I do agree with you that the 360 has SOME diversity, but seriously look what sells the most and what gets the most hype from the majority/core 360 owners. I'll give ya a little hint: Gears of War, Call of Duty 2 and 3, Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas, F.E.A.R., Prey, Far Cry, Graw, Perfect Dark Zero, and just recently Lost Planet, Crackdown, and most likely soon to be Halo 3, Bioshock, Haze, Unreal Tournament 2007, Graw 2, The Darkness, and Shadowrun while plenty of good games that are not shooters get left in the dust like Viva Pinata and Kameo. You can even look at XBOX Live and see that the majority of games being played on it are shooters.

Now I'm not saying every every game that is not a shooter doesn't sell well because a few examples of where they do are DOA 4, Dead Rising, Saints Row, Elder Scrolls: Oblivion, and whatever sports and racing games you want to throw into the mix, but 360 owners clearly need to support other genres more if they really want a huge variety of games to come to their console instead of just more and more shooters. And by this, you can clearly see why the 360 has a shooter image and is called a shooter console. 

To be honest, I am personally more hyped for Trusty Bell, Mass Effect, Blue Dragon, Banjo Kazooie Threeie, Fable 2, and Assassin's Creed than any of the shooters I named above. And don't bring up about how this could also apply for Nintendo since only kiddy games sell on their console, because the ACTUAL kiddy games yall talk about such as Barnyard, The Ant Bully, and Happy Feet aren't selling well on the wii. It's the games that lemmings and cows like to call kiddy, even though they aren't, such as Zelda, Trauma Center, Sonic and the Secret Rings that are selling. Of course there are a few exceptions to this. I'm sorry it was long cause I know yall don't like to read that much.

killaj2786

The ones bolded are not shooters. Just because there's a gun involved doesnt neccessary make it a shooter. Other than PDZ, Gears and Lost Planet u can find the otehr games on PS3 and PC. The problem is mainly graphics. What games have the most graphical improvements.....shooters. This isnt only on 360, this counts on every system. Look at it PC, all lots of shooters. I'll remember Doom before thinking bout World of the Warcaft. PS3 : Resistance, and aint the most antcipated game for it is MGS4....which is mainly a shooter.

Like I posted up above, Gamespot themselves categorizes those games, even the ones you highlighted, as some form of a shooter whether it is a sci-fi shooter, modern tactical shooter, or historic shooter.
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#32 poopinloop32
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and the Wii is a kiddy console
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#33 azrealhk
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I can see some Lemmings defending that it is not a shooter.

I guess if you make a top 10 list with sales figures for each genre, it would dispell all none believers.
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#34 peaceful_anger
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[QUOTE="peaceful_anger"][QUOTE="heretrix"]

I like shooters....:|

And no I didn't read that massive wall of text.

heretrix
I was afraid a lot of people wouldn't, so I tried to break it up to make it more readable, but I guess that didn't work. I tried to make it short too, but I just had a lot to say.

It's ok dude. I'm just yankin' your chain. I read it.:P

Well thank you cause I was surely thinking nobody would.
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#35 DrinkDuff
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Please don't make me post a list of games. Less than 50% of the games available for the 360 are shooters. :| Sure shooters are perhaps the most popular genre on the 360 but is that really saying anything? When GTA III was only on the PS2, it sold millions of units and moved tons of PS2's. Does that mean it is a shooter console? No. I think what you are really trying to say is that shooters are extremely popular in general, because casual gamers love them. In reality, it has absolutely nothing to do with the 360. It just so happens that there is a large market for shooters.
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 And don't bring up about how this could also apply for Nintendo since only kiddy games sell on their console, because the ACTUAL kiddy games yall talk about such as Barnyard, The Ant Bully, and Happy Feet aren't selling well on the wii. It's the games that lemmings and cows like to call kiddy, even though they aren't, such as Zelda, Trauma Center, Sonic and the Secret Rings that are selling. Of course there are a few exceptions to this. I'm sorry it was long cause I know yall don't like to read that much.

peaceful_anger


im a 360 owner, but the wii seems like a cool console, but the thing is games like zelda, trauma center and sonic arec pretty kiddy to me sonic is a cartoon hedgehog running around and getting rings.trauma center looks like a japanese sweatshop cartoonist drew it up(anime is blehhh) and zelda to easy.games like sadness, or day of disaster or w/e calls and red steel look like cool games i would own if i had a wii.

anyways is i like intense shooters over a partygame or a cartoony spin off of a past nintendo game, then more power to me by owning a 360
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#37 BumFluff122
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I still thiunk Kameo is one of my favourite games on the 360
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#38 BioShockOwnz
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Lets see what the biggest selling games are on consoles. Shooters, sports games, and racers.

360 wins then!

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TC, what do you consider the PS3 to specialize in? I'm curious.
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#40 peaceful_anger
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Lemmings you are making it sound like I bashed the shooters I mentioned, and if you read my post, you would know that that I didn't say one bad thing about any of them.