Lemmings, the no game argument...

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#1 D3monchicken
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That worked back in June people... when the PS3 truly had a dismal selection. Now there are plenty of titles... The argument can no longer be that the ps3 has no games, it has to be that "the ps3 has no games that interest me" get it right fanboys.
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That worked back in June people... when the PS3 truly had a dismal selection. Now there are plenty of titles... The argument can no longer be that the ps3 has no games, it has to be that "the ps3 has no games that interest me" get it right fanboys.D3monchicken

I hear you. I think that argument is weak as well. I will say that 360 got a lot of games before the PS3 (yes I know the main reason was due to the 360 coming out earlier), so someone like myself that owns a 360 and a PS3 already bought a majority of the games out for the 360. In fact, I finished most games, before they were released on the PS3. Uncharted (lately) is the only thing I play on the PS3. I am looking forward to the exclusives in '08.

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#3 King_of_Sorrow
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The only argument most hatershave left is "Sony is arrogant".

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#4 dhjohns
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The only argument most hatershave left is "Sony is arrogant".

King_of_Sorrow

I question if Sony is still arrogant. Sure they are putting on a brave corporate face, but Sony isn't stupid. It knows it has made its share of missteps. It is still coming on strong though despite all these missteps.

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#5 pins_basic
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That worked back in June people... when the PS3 truly had a dismal selection. Now there are plenty of titles... The argument can no longer be that the ps3 has no games, it has to be that "the ps3 has no games that interest me" get it right fanboys.D3monchicken
It's no different than the Xbox only having Halo or the 360 having no games prior to Gears. This is system wars, live with it.
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#6 Bazfrag
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Ps3 has games. It does'nt have a "Killer App" yet that makes the purchase of the console worthwhile.

I remember the days where a console had at least 1 classic released at launch....

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[QUOTE="D3monchicken"]That worked back in June people... when the PS3 truly had a dismal selection. Now there are plenty of titles... The argument can no longer be that the ps3 has no games, it has to be that "the ps3 has no games that interest me" get it right fanboys.dhjohns

I hear you. I think that argument is weak as well. I will say that 360 got a lot of games before the PS3 (yes I know the main reason was due to the 360 coming out earlier), so someone like myself that owns a 360 and a PS3 already bought a majority of the games out for the 360. In fact, I finished most games, before they were released on the PS3. Uncharted (lately) is the only thing I play on the PS3. I am looking forward to the exclusives in '08.

Frankly, the achievement system and the game-showing and invite-getting online service gets people to buy games on 360.

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#8 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="dhjohns"]

[QUOTE="D3monchicken"]That worked back in June people... when the PS3 truly had a dismal selection. Now there are plenty of titles... The argument can no longer be that the ps3 has no games, it has to be that "the ps3 has no games that interest me" get it right fanboys.osirisomeomi

I hear you. I think that argument is weak as well. I will say that 360 got a lot of games before the PS3 (yes I know the main reason was due to the 360 coming out earlier), so someone like myself that owns a 360 and a PS3 already bought a majority of the games out for the 360. In fact, I finished most games, before they were released on the PS3. Uncharted (lately) is the only thing I play on the PS3. I am looking forward to the exclusives in '08.

Frankly, the achievement system and the game-showing and invite-getting online service gets people to buy games on 360.

i'd have to say the achievements add something that really makes ps3 games lack something, but thats why i enjoyed uncharted so much, but when im getting points and not unlockables i feel like achievements are almost like a job sometimes

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I love this. Cows get all mad about this but will happily call the 360 a "shoota" console, bash the wii for being kiddy and say the PC is expensive, too difficult to game on and you can't play it from the couch.

Maybe if cows would deliberately stop misrepresenting others they would stop doing it to cows?

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#10 the_h_bomb
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wow this place is cow central today, you guys cant stop daamage controlling your failure.
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#11 Animal-Mother
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I love this. Cows get all mad about this but will happily call the 360 a "shoota" console, bash the wii for being kiddy and say the PC is expensive, too difficult to game on and you can't play it from the couch.

Maybe if cows would deliberately stop misrepresenting others they would stop doing it to cows?

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hazy why do you always make such strong arguments?Your So Smart!

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#12 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]

I love this. Cows get all mad about this but will happily call the 360 a "shoota" console, bash the wii for being kiddy and say the PC is expensive, too difficult to game on and you can't play it from the couch.

Maybe if cows would deliberately stop misrepresenting others they would stop doing it to cows?

Animal-Mother

hazy why do you always make such strongarguments?Your So Smart!

:P
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#13 RIZDRAVER
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If the PS3 has all of these great games that are equal to the 360, then why are the 360 software sales over triple that of the PS3's?

You can't say install base, because if that was the case, the ratio would yield less than 2:1. And it's not.
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#14 Taz-Bone
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NO exclusive AAA games
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#15 heretrix
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It makes me laugh at how cows take that statement so literally. Even the most moronic poster on system wars knows that the PS3 has games. What it doesn't have is the games that justifies all of the chest beating the cows have done here since E3 2005.

Now I know many of the cows here representin' the PS3 weren't here then, but they do their fare share and deserve the ridicule.

Remember the PS3 was supposed to destroy the 360 and nowhere in the realm of this reality is that even near the truth. So yeah, in comparison to the 360 library you could say the PS3 has no games. The library does not match the 360s in quality, never mind the quantity.

I have a PS3 and I must admit there are some good games on it, but it has a way to go. But cows convienently forget how they boasted that the PS3 would come out of the gate with all barrels blazing. All i've seen is a bunch of misfires.

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#16 RIZDRAVER
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Well cows generally gave two reasons for the PS3's bad sales:

1.) PS3 price

2.) Lack of games

Well, now after a huge price-cut that has Sony bleeding money, sales of the PS3 are still dead last and falling behind even further in the race. So now if it also apparently has good games, what is the reason cows are touting for its present lackluster sales?
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Maybe if cows would shut their mouths and start buying all these supposed awesome, better-than-anything-on-Xbox360games, then they might have an easier time in SW. Actions speak louder than words.

Uncharted and R&C didn't break the Top 10 in sales and cows were claiming those games would push the PS3 over the x360 in sales.

In fact, one could argue the PS3 is now a shooter console since CoD4 was the top-selling game for it.

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#18 donalbane
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Fact is, the best exclusive games on PS3 currently are leagues below the quality of the best exclusive games on 360. I like many of the PS3 games,but if you think they can stand toe to toe with Bioshock, Halo 3and Mass Effect, you smoke rocks.

Tell you what: We'll agree to stop teasing your game selection if you agree to stop bringing up the Red Ring.

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I love this. Cows get all mad about this but will happily call the 360 a "shoota" console, bash the wii for being kiddy and say the PC is expensive, too difficult to game on and you can't play it from the couch.

Maybe if cows would deliberately stop misrepresenting others they would stop doing it to cows?

blue_hazy_basic

Dude, you are twisting it a little. All of those arguments come from all sides. Everything you just said, I'm sure, lemmings and sheep and hermits have said, except about their own console of course.

It's SW, ignorance is king, if you can get enough morons to back you. You know that, homey.

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wow this place is cow central today, you guys cant stop daamage controlling your failure. the_h_bomb

And why are you here?

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Fact is, the best exclusive games on PS3 currently are leagues below the quality of the best exclusive games on 360. I like many of the PS3 games,but if you think they can stand toe to toe with Bioshock, Halo 3and Mass Effect, you smoke rocks.

Tell you what: We'll agree to stop teasing your game selection if you agree to stop bringing up the Red Ring.

donalbane

All opinion. Thank you for it, but remember, we all have one.

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#22 LosDaddie
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Fact is, the best exclusive games on PS3 currently are leagues below the quality of the best exclusive games on 360. I like many of the PS3 games,but if you think they can stand toe to toe with Bioshock, Halo 3and Mass Effect, you smoke rocks.

donalbane

About the only game I believe can stand with those games is R&C. But then again, I'm a huge platformer fan.

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#23 the_h_bomb
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And why are you here?

The_Crucible

to laugh at your misfortune

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while the ps3 may "have games" the ps3's attach ratio is lower than the 360's or Wii...

apparently they're just not that much fun... :(

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#25 The_Crucible
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while the ps3 may "have games" the ps3's attach ratio is lower than the 360's or Wii...

apparently they're just not that much fun... :(

tango90101

"appearantly", as in, I'ver never played any of them?

I know PS3 software slaes have been lackluster, no denying it. But how do you expect a game like Uncharted to sell as well as a Bioshock, when the platform its on has half the install base?

And I can't speak for anyone else, but I rent most of my games because buying them is a waste of money. And that has been and will be the case for every console i own. i wouldn't buy Bioshock, Mass Effect, Mario Galaxy, or any of those types of games. I beat them once and I'm done. I could care less about finding the lost this and the secret that.

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#26 Blackbond
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Wait....What happened to.

"But the PS3 sales aren't that bad considering that the PS3 is matching the 360 sales and with no games. Imagine what will happen when FFXIII and MGS4 come out."

You guys dug your own grave.

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#27 LosDaddie
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I know PS3 software slaes have been lackluster, no denying it. But how do you expect a game like Uncharted to sell as well as a Bioshock, when the platform its on has half the install base?The_Crucible

If cows are to be believe when it comes to PS3 sales, then GEOW had no trouble with sales a year ago with supposedly the same userbase as the PS3 has now.

Yup, cows are in full DAMAGE CONTROL mode.:lol:

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#28 The_Crucible
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[QUOTE="The_Crucible"]

I know PS3 software slaes have been lackluster, no denying it. But how do you expect a game like Uncharted to sell as well as a Bioshock, when the platform its on has half the install base?LosDaddie

If cows are to be believe when it comes to PS3 sales, then GEOW had no trouble with sales a year ago with supposedly the same userbase as the PS3 has now.

Yup, cows are in full DAMAGE CONTROL mode.:lol:

So you're saying Uncharted is as good or better than Gears and offers the same amount of play?

If Gears was on PS3, I'd buy it. Not because is better single player but because of its MP. Gears gives you way more bang for your buck than Uncharted when you take into account the MP.

Also, how many games and how many systems were there when Gears came out? You have to admit, the choices were a lot more limited then.

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#29 heretrix
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[QUOTE="The_Crucible"]

And why are you here?

the_h_bomb

to laugh at your misfortune

LOL.
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#30 LosDaddie
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[QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="The_Crucible"]

I know PS3 software slaes have been lackluster, no denying it. But how do you expect a game like Uncharted to sell as well as a Bioshock, when the platform its on has half the install base?The_Crucible

If cows are to be believe when it comes to PS3 sales, then GEOW had no trouble with sales a year ago with supposedly the same userbase as the PS3 has now.

Yup, cows are in full DAMAGE CONTROL mode.:lol:

So you're saying Uncharted is as good or better than Gears and offers the same amount of play?

Actually, your fellow cows were making that claim. Not me.

Don't deny it either.

If Gears was on PS3, I'd buy it. Not because is better single player but because of its MP. Gears gives you way more bang for your buck than Uncharted when you take into account the MP.The_Crucible

Sounds like more damage control to me. You're good for that.:)

Explain to me why ACreed had no MP, released on the same day as Uncharted, yet still managed to break the Top 10.

[Also, how many games and how many systems were there when Gears came out? You have to admit, the choices were a lot more limited then.

The_Crucible

All 3 systems were almost out when GEOW launched. So actually, GEOW had to go up against 2 console launches and all their hype. Yet, GEOW managed to set next gen sales records.

Also, if cows are to be believed, then RFoM was just as good, if not better, than GEOW. So, that's one quality game to compare to GEOW, right?

Again, you and your fellow cows dug the grave you're currently in. Isn't it just grand? :)

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#31 mlbslugger86
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i know it is getting tired, but sony is damage control mode right now, in a span of 2 months it lowered the playstation 3's price twice and introduced 2 new sku's, one with BC and one without. seriously i would have died an old man last gen, the ps2 took forever to drop to 150

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I love this. Cows get all mad about this but will happily call the 360 a "shoota" console, bash the wii for being kiddy and say the PC is expensive, too difficult to game on and you can't play it from the couch.

Maybe if cows would deliberately stop misrepresenting others they would stop doing it to cows?

blue_hazy_basic
i agree with this statement.

Cows havent exactly been angels on this forum.
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#33 DuDisNow
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Still no AAA exclusive. I just helped the lemmings out because it's funny.
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#34 Yellow_Rose
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That worked back in June people... when the PS3 truly had a dismal selection. Now there are plenty of titles... The argument can no longer be that the ps3 has no games, it has to be that "the ps3 has no games that interest me" get it right fanboys.D3monchicken

Judging by the piss poor sales of its games, a better phrase would be "the PS3 has no games that interest anyone"

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If cows are to be believe when it comes to PS3 sales, then GEOW had no trouble with sales a year ago with supposedly the same userbase as the PS3 has now.

Yup, cows are in full DAMAGE CONTROL mode.:lol:LosDaddie

What?!?! Its not a level playing field here, homes. Yes, when Gears came out 360 had a lower userbase then they do now. And, yes, it may be equal to where PS3 is now. But its still not the same. When Gears came out 360 had been out, on its own, for almost a year. So, it had that whole time, without any other console to counter, to gain momentum.

Should Uncharted be selling better? Hell, yes. But don't act like it has the same draw that Gears does. Its a single-player only, linear game.

Actually, your fellow cows were making that claim. Not me.

Don't deny it either.LosDaddie

I think the only claim most cows made were that Uncharted's graphics matched or beat Gears. that says nothing about the overall game and the length of play.

Sounds like more damage control to me. You're good for that.:)

Explain to me why ACreed had no MP, released on the same day as Uncharted, yet still managed to break the Top 10.LosDaddie

What, are you combining 360 and PS3 sales for the A.C. figure? If not, and you're just taking PS3 sales into account, are A.C. and Uncharted the same type of game? No. Again, Uncharted is linear, A.C. is not. So, easily you can see where gamers might think that A.C. would give them a lot more play.

Quit acting like all games are equal.

I'm sure there are some kiddy Wii games that sell way more than some 360/PS3 games. Does that mean Wii's got the best games? No.

All 3 systems were almost out when GEOW launched. So actually, GEOW had to go up against 2 console launches and all their hype. Yet, GEOW managed to set next gen sales records.

Also, if cows are to be believed, then RFoM was just as good, if not better, than GEOW. So, that's one quality game to compare to GEOW, right?

Again, you and your fellow cows dug the grave you're currently in. Isn't it just grand? :)

LosDaddie

Again, you're trying to level and unlevel playing field.

Did Gears come out when 360 launched? No, I think we've already established that. So, how is a game like Resistance going to sell as well as gears? Plus, and some cows may vary, I don't believe Resistance is as good as gears. Its close and was very impressive for a luanch title, but that's it.

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#36 D3monchicken
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Fact is, the best exclusive games on PS3 currently are leagues below the quality of the best exclusive games on 360. I like many of the PS3 games,but if you think they can stand toe to toe with Bioshock, Halo 3and Mass Effect, you smoke rocks.

Tell you what: We'll agree to stop teasing your game selection if you agree to stop bringing up the Red Ring.

donalbane

I honestly would agree to that if the Red Rings wasn't still a problem...

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#37 D3monchicken
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while the ps3 may "have games" the ps3's attach ratio is lower than the 360's or Wii...

apparently they're just not that much fun... :(

tango90101

Uhm guy... Just because cows aren't like lemmings and buy 6 games a month does not mean they don't buy games. I myself buy a game a month and a downloadable game every month and a half... I think that's more than enough. GAMES COST MONEY. Not everyone is willing to constantly cash out money so that they can feel better about the sales ratio... To be honest no one cares but you.

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#38 tango90101
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[QUOTE="tango90101"]

while the ps3 may "have games" the ps3's attach ratio is lower than the 360's or Wii...

apparently they're just not that much fun... :(

D3monchicken

Uhm guy... Just because cows aren't like lemmings and buy 6 games a month does not mean they don't buy games. I myself buy a game a month and a downloadable game every month and a half... I think that's more than enough. GAMES COST MONEY. Not everyone is willing to constantly cash out money so that they can feel better about the sales ratio... To be honest no one cares but you.

I can see your point after dishing out $600 for the ps3... but thanfully i only payed $399 for my 360, leaving me much more money for games...

after all, games is what it's all about...

maybe if the ps3 had more games worth buying more would... but alas...:(

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NO exclusive AAA gamesTaz-Bone
only hear on gamespot.
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[QUOTE="Taz-Bone"]NO exclusive AAA gamesGARRYTH
only hear on gamespot.

Or GR, unless you round up! :P
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#41 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]

I love this. Cows get all mad about this but will happily call the 360 a "shoota" console, bash the wii for being kiddy and say the PC is expensive, too difficult to game on and you can't play it from the couch.

Maybe if cows would deliberately stop misrepresenting others they would stop doing it to cows?

The_Crucible

Dude, you are twisting it a little. All of those arguments come from all sides. Everything you just said, I'm sure, lemmings and sheep and hermits have said, except about their own console of course.

It's SW, ignorance is king, if you can get enough morons to back you. You know that, homey.

All I was pointing out is that cows use plenty of misconceptions too. Alot of people use ridiculous arguements and they should all go off and sit in a corner and bleed to death, but they won't. One group can't whine about a silly arguement and then immediately throw another back in someone's face.
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#42 jessie5788
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i've been here a while for almost a year and every month lemmings find something new to say but there starting to run out bad comments. all they say is just wait and no AAA which are both dumb as hell. the only way they can compliment their system is has more AAA games and americas the only country that matters. They can't brag about sales because only 5 million have been sold this year and the wii took first place. yes the 360 sold a lot in america but in the real world wide wide matters.
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#43 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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i've been here a while for almost a year and every month lemmings find something new to say but there starting to run out bad comments. all they say is just wait and no AAA which are both dumb as hell. the only way they can compliment their system is has more AAA games and americas the only country that matters. They can't brag about sales because only 5 million have been sold this year and the wii took first place. yes the 360 sold a lot in america but in the real world wide wide matters. jessie5788

Ummm its cows that say just wait, not lems, they just mock cows for saying it so much.

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#44 ermacness
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Wait....What happened to.

"But the PS3 sales aren't that bad considering that the PS3 is matching the 360 sales and with no games. Imagine what will happen when FFXIII and MGS4 come out."

You guys dug your own grave.

Blackbond
if you consider the very 1st year of the 360, then yeah the ps3 is matching the 360 and actually is beating it out WORLDWIDE. Do remember that the 360 is having a hard time breaking even this year with their sales of last years
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#45 hiryu3
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while the ps3 may "have games" the ps3's attach ratio is lower than the 360's or Wii...

apparently they're just not that much fun... :(

tango90101

and your source to that would be...

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#46 LibertySaint
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really, what about the ps3 has bland genres and nothing more then a few titles here and there tahtd on't last more then 12 hours at most. expemting warhawk, i wove u warhawk.
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#47 Not-A-Stalker
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Cows, you could make situations like these so much easier if you'd stop digging your own graves with statements like, what blackbond said for one example, "But the PS3 sales aren't that bad considering that the PS3 is matching the 360 sales and with no games. Imagine what will happen when FFXIII and MGS4 come out."

You guys make it just too easy to bash you, and stuff backfires on you all the time.

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#48 JinGodFist
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[QUOTE="The_Crucible"]

I know PS3 software slaes have been lackluster, no denying it. But how do you expect a game like Uncharted to sell as well as a Bioshock, when the platform its on has half the install base?LosDaddie

If cows are to be believe when it comes to PS3 sales, then GEOW had no trouble with sales a year ago with supposedly the same userbase as the PS3 has now.

Yup, cows are in full DAMAGE CONTROL mode.:lol:

Oh, I didn't realize the released PS3 games had as much hype behind it as Gear did. Fanboy much. Wait til GT5, MGS4, FF13, GTA4( will push more PS3s than 360s) Say just wait all you want, fact is you won't have that argument left after these titles come out and sell up to 8 million each.
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#49 JinGodFist
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[QUOTE="The_Crucible"]

I know PS3 software slaes have been lackluster, no denying it. But how do you expect a game like Uncharted to sell as well as a Bioshock, when the platform its on has half the install base?LosDaddie

If cows are to be believe when it comes to PS3 sales, then GEOW had no trouble with sales a year ago with supposedly the same userbase as the PS3 has now.

Yup, cows are in full DAMAGE CONTROL mode.:lol:

Oh, I didn't realize the released PS3 games had as much hype behind it as Gear did. Fanboy much. Wait til GT5, MGS4, FF13, GTA4( will push more PS3s than 360s) Say just wait all you want, fact is you won't have that argument left after these titles come out and sell up to 8 million each.
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#50 RIZDRAVER
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and your source to that would be...

hiryu3

Do you know how to use google?

The 360's attach rate has been on top virtually every month by a landslide.

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/31/360-leads-hardware-to-software-ratio-wii-and-ps3-trail-with-sim/4

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/28105/102/

http://www.lazygamer.co.za/xbox-360/us-hardware-software-sales-1st-july-2007/