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#1 imprezawrx500
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since you have to buy a new xbox every year and a half how is x360 cheaper than a gaming pc.  $400 + $480 = a very nice pc and then there is the $20 extra for x360 games over pc games which is $1000 over 5 years extra you will spend.

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to have a solid framerate like 360 or ps3 u need to get the best gear available, wich means buy diffrent lets say each 4 or 7 months, so yes its more expensive
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I forgot you HAVE to buy it right? i mean yea. I can play any 360 game for only $300 with top of the line graphics. ahh, gotta love it, go cry some more, your age is showing
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I forgot you HAVE to buy it right? i mean yea. I can play any 360 game for only $300 with top of the line graphics. ahh, gotta love it, go cry some more, your age is showingDoctorBunny

You also need your $2000 TV. 

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#5 Lazy_Boy88
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It's pointless to argue that PCs aren't more expensive than consoles. The point to argue is that you get better games that last longer.... I buy way less PC games and play it far more often - saves a hell of a lot of money right there.
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#6 imprezawrx500
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to have a solid framerate like 360 or ps3 u need to get the best gear available, wich means buy diffrent lets say each 4 or 7 months, so yes its more expensiveKaosed
so thats why my year old system can run every game maxed perfect?
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#7 -supercharged-
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Im not a lem but your telling me I can build a PC just as powerful as the 360 for $300?
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I forgot you HAVE to buy it right? i mean yea. I can play any 360 game for only $300 with top of the line graphics. ahh, gotta love it, go cry some more, your age is showingDoctorBunny
I don't have to buy pc upgrade like you console fans say every 6 months a card from before the 360 came out can still run every game better than x360
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#9 DoctorBunny
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$2000 tv? once again, your age is showing, or you are just an idiot. How many people have tv's? almost EVERYONE. hell you could play on a $100 tv, still less t han half the price of pc gamming
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#10 Brown52
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Hermits really need to start making some other threads.  I'm tired of reading how much their PC costs.
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[QUOTE="Kaosed"]to have a solid framerate like 360 or ps3 u need to get the best gear available, wich means buy diffrent lets say each 4 or 7 months, so yes its more expensiveimprezawrx500
so thats why my year old system can run every game maxed perfect?

yep 

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since you have to buy a new xbox every year and a half how is x360 cheaper than a gaming pc. $400 + $480 = a very nice pc and then there is the $20 extra for x360 games over pc games which is $1000 over 5 years extra you will spend.

imprezawrx500

wow since when did hermits stoop down to console fan boy levels.  I'm surprise you didn't add the cost of batteries for the controller to the equation. 

 

From the looks of you sig I'm guessing you spend more than $400 on your pc every 1.5 years.

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#13 X360PS3AMD05
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ayyayayayeh, not this again. I like my PC, but it is more expensive, which is why i'm saving for a 360. If you want to play at high res. like the 360/Ps3 you have to constantly upgrade to turn up AA/AF and get smooth FPS. With consoles you have a game optimized for the specific hardware and it runs smooth. You just pop in the disc and kick back because you know the game will play and you don't have to worry about drivers.

The only argument you can make is PC games being cheaper, but i wait for console games to come down in price anyway. In the end you really can't compare them because there are genres on both platforms that you can't play on the other and a PC can do more than just play games.

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[QUOTE="Kaosed"]to have a solid framerate like 360 or ps3 u need to get the best gear available, wich means buy diffrent lets say each 4 or 7 months, so yes its more expensiveimprezawrx500
so thats why my year old system can run every game maxed perfect?

For one small payment of $1500, wow that is so cheap for one year of gamming compared to the $300 you can spend on 4-5 /rolls eyes
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[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"]I forgot you HAVE to buy it right? i mean yea. I can play any 360 game for only $300 with top of the line graphics. ahh, gotta love it, go cry some more, your age is showinggoblaa

You also need your $2000 TV.

Omg pwned.
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I hate these threads.  I bought a PS2 in 2000 and it has lasted me almost 7 years.  Best $300 I've ever spent.  I built a gaming pc in 2005 for $1200 and it's turning obsolete in less than 2 years.  Go figure.
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#17 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"][QUOTE="Kaosed"]to have a solid framerate like 360 or ps3 u need to get the best gear available, wich means buy diffrent lets say each 4 or 7 months, so yes its more expensiveDoctorBunny
so thats why my year old system can run every game maxed perfect?

For one small payment of $1500, wow that is so cheap for one year of gamming compared to the $300 you can spend on 4-5 /rolls eyes

Who says his system is going to last 1 year? And how are you going to enjoy 4-5 years of 360 without a HDTV and without (lol) a HDD?
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#18 -supercharged-
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imprezawrx500 I'm callin you out man. I would like to know how I can build a PC for $300 that is just as powerful as the 360.
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#19 DoctorBunny
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imprezawrx500 I'm callin you out man. I would like to know how I can build a PC for $300 that is just as powerful as the 360. -supercharged-
Because he bought an e-machine and wrote over the specs with perm. marker ;)
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[QUOTE="goblaa"]

[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"]I forgot you HAVE to buy it right? i mean yea. I can play any 360 game for only $300 with top of the line graphics. ahh, gotta love it, go cry some more, your age is showingDanm_999

You also need your $2000 TV.

Omg pwned.

You can get an HDTV that displays 1080p for $800 bucks now. This will also last you many years. PC gaming is very expensive.
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#21 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="goblaa"]

[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"]I forgot you HAVE to buy it right? i mean yea. I can play any 360 game for only $300 with top of the line graphics. ahh, gotta love it, go cry some more, your age is showingSergeantSnitch

You also need your $2000 TV.

Omg pwned.

You can get an HDTV that displays 1080p for $800 bucks now. This will also last you many years. PC gaming is very expensive.

It is, but it's cost can easily be marginalised through informed shopping for components. What gets my goat is console fanboys demanding and absolute standard of maximum from PC gaming, sticking in esoteric sound cards and ridiculously big HDDs to inflate the price, coming to a quote for a multiple thousand dollar rigs, then not conforming to these standards themselves of maximum themselves.

 Yes, you can get a Core 360 for $300, but it's got no HDD, no HDTV, no XBL, one wired controller, etc. It is in no way the same level preached from a $1000+ PC.

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[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="goblaa"]

[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"]I forgot you HAVE to buy it right? i mean yea. I can play any 360 game for only $300 with top of the line graphics. ahh, gotta love it, go cry some more, your age is showingDanm_999

You also need your $2000 TV.

Omg pwned.

You can get an HDTV that displays 1080p for $800 bucks now. This will also last you many years. PC gaming is very expensive.

It is, but it's cost can easily be marginalised through informed shopping for components. What gets my goat is console fanboys demanding and absolute standard of maximum from PC gaming, citing multiple thousand dollar rigs, then not conforming to these standards themselves. Yes, you can get a Core 360 for $300, but it's got no HDD, no HDTV, no XBL, one wired controller, etc. It is in no way the same level of standard demanded of a PC.

Already owned a HDTV cost = $0 HDD contributes nothing at all except storage cost = $0 XBL - Free, if you want to play online which I dont anymore $50, 10x better than pc gamming online btw xbox 360 - $300 Controller - doesnt matter if its wired, performs EXACTLY the same, same design, same everything - $0 total - $350 for total experience next
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#23 SergeantSnitch
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[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="goblaa"]

[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"]I forgot you HAVE to buy it right? i mean yea. I can play any 360 game for only $300 with top of the line graphics. ahh, gotta love it, go cry some more, your age is showingDanm_999

You also need your $2000 TV.

Omg pwned.

You can get an HDTV that displays 1080p for $800 bucks now. This will also last you many years. PC gaming is very expensive.

It is, but it's cost can easily be marginalised through informed shopping for components. What gets my goat is console fanboys demanding and absolute standard of maximum from PC gaming, citing multiple thousand dollar rigs, then not conforming to these standards themselves. Yes, you can get a Core 360 for $300, but it's got no HDD, no HDTV, no XBL, one wired controller, etc. It is in no way the same level of standard demanded of a PC.

$400 for a 360 + $800 for an HDTV = $1000. The rest comes in the form of games. This combo will last you for 5 years easily. I understand what you're saying, fanboys exaggerate the cost of PC gaming. Hell fanboys exaggerate everything. But still, My AMD64 3200+ with ASUS-SLI Deluxe Mobo, 1 gig of ram, and a 6600gt that I built with my bare hands which cost me $1200 in January of '05 (not including XP) is now showing its age. If I want Crysis by the end of this year, I have to buy a new PC. $1200 every 2-3 years is absurd.
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[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"]I forgot you HAVE to buy it right? i mean yea. I can play any 360 game for only $300 with top of the line graphics. ahh, gotta love it, go cry some more, your age is showinggoblaa

You also need your $2000 TV.

actually you can buy cables so the 360 will play on a pc monitor (they were like $15 on CAG)

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#25 DoctorBunny
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The things you listed in NO way affects it, they are added luxerys. they do not effect graphics or quality of game. you HAVE to upgrade your pc to. see the difference? Probably not, you already have shown you have a low intelligence in this thread
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#26 goblaa
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="goblaa"]

[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"]I forgot you HAVE to buy it right? i mean yea. I can play any 360 game for only $300 with top of the line graphics. ahh, gotta love it, go cry some more, your age is showingSergeantSnitch

You also need your $2000 TV.

Omg pwned.

You can get an HDTV that displays 1080p for $800 bucks now. This will also last you many years. PC gaming is very expensive.

It is, but it's cost can easily be marginalised through informed shopping for components. What gets my goat is console fanboys demanding and absolute standard of maximum from PC gaming, citing multiple thousand dollar rigs, then not conforming to these standards themselves. Yes, you can get a Core 360 for $300, but it's got no HDD, no HDTV, no XBL, one wired controller, etc. It is in no way the same level of standard demanded of a PC.

$400 for a 360 + $800 for an HDTV = $1000. The rest comes in the form of games. This combo will last you for 5 years easily. I understand what you're saying, fanboys exaggerate the cost of PC gaming. Hell fanboys exaggerate everything. But still, My AMD64 3200+ with ASUS-SLI Deluxe Mobo, 1 gig of ram, and a 6600gt that I built with my bare hands which cost me $1200 in January of '05 (not including XP) is now showing its age. If I want Crysis by the end of this year, I have to buy a new PC. $1200 every 2-3 years is absurd.

4+8=12...not 10 

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#27 chat2
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Lems dont think pc gaming is expensive, everyone thinks pc gaming is expensive

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#28 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="goblaa"]

[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"]I forgot you HAVE to buy it right? i mean yea. I can play any 360 game for only $300 with top of the line graphics. ahh, gotta love it, go cry some more, your age is showingDoctorBunny

You also need your $2000 TV.

Omg pwned.

You can get an HDTV that displays 1080p for $800 bucks now. This will also last you many years. PC gaming is very expensive.

It is, but it's cost can easily be marginalised through informed shopping for components. What gets my goat is console fanboys demanding and absolute standard of maximum from PC gaming, citing multiple thousand dollar rigs, then not conforming to these standards themselves. Yes, you can get a Core 360 for $300, but it's got no HDD, no HDTV, no XBL, one wired controller, etc. It is in no way the same level of standard demanded of a PC.

Already owned a HDTV cost = $0 HDD contributes nothing at all except storage cost = $0 XBL - Free, if you want to play online which I dont anymore $50, 10x better than pc gamming online btw xbox 360 - $300 Controller - doesnt matter if its wired, performs EXACTLY the same, same design, same everything - $0 total - $350 for total experience next

Cool. I already own a Quad Core and an 8800GT. I guess by that logic PC gaming costs $0 for me. WOW WHAT A DEAL. And who needs a HDD? Saving games is overrated, I like to start fresh each time. Arcade games? New content for my 360 games? Nah, don't need that to enjoy the maximum 360 experience. And yes, XBL is totally 10x better than PC online. It's just slower, has less online games available, does less in terms of gaming and multimedia, has less people online and allows less people in matches, disallows most user and official content and costs $50 more a year. But other than that it's totally superior. And why would I ever need more than 1 controller for a console? You're right.
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#29 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"]The things you listed in NO way affects it, they are added luxerys. they do not effect graphics or quality of game. you HAVE to upgrade your pc to. see the difference? Probably not, you already have shown you have a low intelligence in this thread

Being able to save your game is a luxury is it? HDTVs don't affect the graphically quality of games do they? I don't think it's my intelligence that's in question.....
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#30 Danm_999
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$400 for a 360 + $800 for an HDTV = $1000. The rest comes in the form of games. SergeantSnitch

That's actually $1200, and for that, I can get a PC which will last at least 3 years with high quality visuals. But I understand your point, and it is essentially a correct one.

 

I understand what you're saying, fanboys exaggerate the cost of PC gaming. Hell fanboys exaggerate everything. But still, My AMD64 3200+ with ASUS-SLI Deluxe Mobo, 1 gig of ram, and a 6600gt that I built with my bare hands which cost me $1200 in January of '05 (not including XP) is now showing its age. If I want Crysis by the end of this year, I have to buy a new PC. $1200 every 2-3 years is absurd.SergeantSnitch

You're very right on this point, just check out the post above yours... 

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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="DoctorBunny"]The things you listed in NO way affects it, they are added luxerys. they do not effect graphics or quality of game. you HAVE to upgrade your pc to. see the difference? Probably not, you already have shown you have a low intelligence in this thread

Being able to save your game is a luxury is it? HDTVs don't affect the graphically quality of games do they? I don't think it's my intelligence that's in question.....

I really do think it is. Seeing as you don't need a HDD to save your game, which you are saying is the only way to. I've had a HDTV for movie experience, not gamming, it was just an added plus. If you want to spin ti that way, you would also have to buy one for the PC. a 20" screen just isnt going to do it compared t o those 52" tv's that you are saying "we have to buy". so chalk that up for the pc too.
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#33 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="DoctorBunny"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="goblaa"]

[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"]I forgot you HAVE to buy it right? i mean yea. I can play any 360 game for only $300 with top of the line graphics. ahh, gotta love it, go cry some more, your age is showingDoctorBunny

You also need your $2000 TV.

Omg pwned.

You can get an HDTV that displays 1080p for $800 bucks now. This will also last you many years. PC gaming is very expensive.

It is, but it's cost can easily be marginalised through informed shopping for components. What gets my goat is console fanboys demanding and absolute standard of maximum from PC gaming, citing multiple thousand dollar rigs, then not conforming to these standards themselves. Yes, you can get a Core 360 for $300, but it's got no HDD, no HDTV, no XBL, one wired controller, etc. It is in no way the same level of standard demanded of a PC.

Already owned a HDTV cost = $0 HDD contributes nothing at all except storage cost = $0 XBL - Free, if you want to play online which I dont anymore $50, 10x better than pc gamming online btw xbox 360 - $300 Controller - doesnt matter if its wired, performs EXACTLY the same, same design, same everything - $0 total - $350 for total experience next

Cool. I already own a Quad Core and an 8800GT. I guess by that logic PC gaming costs $0 for me. WOW WHAT A DEAL. And who needs a HDD? Saving games is overrated, I like to start fresh each time. Arcade games? New content for my 360 games? Nah, don't need that to enjoy the maximum 360 experience. And yes, XBL is totally 10x better than PC online. It's just slower, has less online games available, does less in terms of gaming and multimedia, has less people online and allows less people in matches, disallows most user and official content and costs $50 more a year. But other than that it's totally superior. And why would I ever need more than 1 controller for a console? You're right.

By your logic you are still an idiot. A television is owned for watching television, movies not JUST GAMES. No one buys a top of the line PC for running "microsoft word". seriously are you just pretending to be an idiot or are you really this stupid?

Well, let me put it this way. A HDTV is an extremely niche product not owned by the majority of households, does not sell more than SDTV CRTs and is not necessary to watch TV. It still however, allows you to watch TV, it's just a lot more expensive, and not too many people have them. A system with a Quad Core and an 8800GT is an extremely niche product not owned by the majority of households, does not sell more than crappy Dell systems and is not vital to have a working PC for the internet and MS word. It still however, allows you to use MS word and the internet, it's just a lot more expensive, and not too many people have them. See, HDTV is not standard, so when you pretend it is and try to remove it's cost from the equation, it gives me liberty to remove the cost of something that isn't standard from PCs. I also noticed you didn't address any of my other points.
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#34 -supercharged-
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[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="DoctorBunny"]The things you listed in NO way affects it, they are added luxerys. they do not effect graphics or quality of game. you HAVE to upgrade your pc to. see the difference? Probably not, you already have shown you have a low intelligence in this thread

Being able to save your game is a luxury is it? HDTVs don't affect the graphically quality of games do they? I don't think it's my intelligence that's in question.....

I really do think it is. Seeing as you don't need a HDD to save your game, which you are saying is the only way to. I've had a HDTV for movie experience, not gamming, it was just an added plus. If you want to spin ti that way, you would also have to buy one for the PC. a 20" screen just isnt going to do it compared t o those 52" tv's that you are saying "we have to buy". so chalk that up for the pc too.

Glad my HDTV has a PC input :)
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By your logic you are still an idiot. A television is owned for watching television, movies not JUST GAMES. No one buys a top of the line PC for running "microsoft word". seriously are you just pretending to be an idiot or are you really this stupid?DoctorBunny

I have my 51" plasma for just games and movies. I don't watch anything for TV apart from heroes.

So my tv purchase counts towards my gaming I would say.

Plus I use my PC for work, multimedia, games...and all sorts of other functions. It's cost for performance ratio slaughters console gaming. Especially with the rising cost of consoles. A PC does so much more than a console, I gladly pay nearly twice the cost every generation for a PC that outperform in strides.

To make any console worth it's purchase... expect to spend $100 more on top of it's original price for controllers and other peripherals. 

 

Either way, PC gaming is not horrendously expensive compared to console gaming. The fact of the matter is the same types of purchases must be made for both, for nearly the same amount in cost.

  

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[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="DoctorBunny"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="goblaa"]

[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"]I forgot you HAVE to buy it right? i mean yea. I can play any 360 game for only $300 with top of the line graphics. ahh, gotta love it, go cry some more, your age is showingDanm_999

You also need your $2000 TV.

Omg pwned.

You can get an HDTV that displays 1080p for $800 bucks now. This will also last you many years. PC gaming is very expensive.

It is, but it's cost can easily be marginalised through informed shopping for components. What gets my goat is console fanboys demanding and absolute standard of maximum from PC gaming, citing multiple thousand dollar rigs, then not conforming to these standards themselves. Yes, you can get a Core 360 for $300, but it's got no HDD, no HDTV, no XBL, one wired controller, etc. It is in no way the same level of standard demanded of a PC.

Already owned a HDTV cost = $0 HDD contributes nothing at all except storage cost = $0 XBL - Free, if you want to play online which I dont anymore $50, 10x better than pc gamming online btw xbox 360 - $300 Controller - doesnt matter if its wired, performs EXACTLY the same, same design, same everything - $0 total - $350 for total experience next

Cool. I already own a Quad Core and an 8800GT. I guess by that logic PC gaming costs $0 for me. WOW WHAT A DEAL. And who needs a HDD? Saving games is overrated, I like to start fresh each time. Arcade games? New content for my 360 games? Nah, don't need that to enjoy the maximum 360 experience. And yes, XBL is totally 10x better than PC online. It's just slower, has less online games available, does less in terms of gaming and multimedia, has less people online and allows less people in matches, disallows most user and official content and costs $50 more a year. But other than that it's totally superior. And why would I ever need more than 1 controller for a console? You're right.

By your logic you are still an idiot. A television is owned for watching television, movies not JUST GAMES. No one buys a top of the line PC for running "microsoft word". seriously are you just pretending to be an idiot or are you really this stupid?

Well, let me put it this way. A HDTV is an extremely niche product not owned by the majority of households, does not sell more than SDTV CRTs and is not necessary to watch TV. It still however, allows you to watch TV, it's just a lot more expensive, and not too many people have them. A system with a Quad Core and an 8800GT is an extremely niche product not owned by the majority of households, does not sell more than crappy Dell systems and is not vital to have a working PC for the internet and MS word. It still however, allows you to use MS word and the internet, it's just a lot more expensive, and not too many people have them. See, HDTV is not standard, so when you pretend it is and try to remove it's cost from the equation, it gives me liberty to remove the cost of something that isn't standard from PCs. I also noticed you didn't address any of my other points.

Why would I waste my time on someone who never owned a Live account. Was a PC gamer for about 10 years, got on live and was blown away. There is nothing to address, you were speaking out of your ass.
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[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"][QUOTE="Kaosed"]to have a solid framerate like 360 or ps3 u need to get the best gear available, wich means buy diffrent lets say each 4 or 7 months, so yes its more expensiveDoctorBunny
so thats why my year old system can run every game maxed perfect?

For one small payment of $1500, wow that is so cheap for one year of gamming compared to the $300 you can spend on 4-5 /rolls eyes

my a pc more powerful than consoles now will be in 2011 and my system wasn't $1500 but more like $700
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="DoctorBunny"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="DoctorBunny"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="goblaa"]

[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"]I forgot you HAVE to buy it right? i mean yea. I can play any 360 game for only $300 with top of the line graphics. ahh, gotta love it, go cry some more, your age is showingDoctorBunny

You also need your $2000 TV.

Omg pwned.

You can get an HDTV that displays 1080p for $800 bucks now. This will also last you many years. PC gaming is very expensive.

It is, but it's cost can easily be marginalised through informed shopping for components. What gets my goat is console fanboys demanding and absolute standard of maximum from PC gaming, citing multiple thousand dollar rigs, then not conforming to these standards themselves. Yes, you can get a Core 360 for $300, but it's got no HDD, no HDTV, no XBL, one wired controller, etc. It is in no way the same level of standard demanded of a PC.

Already owned a HDTV cost = $0 HDD contributes nothing at all except storage cost = $0 XBL - Free, if you want to play online which I dont anymore $50, 10x better than pc gamming online btw xbox 360 - $300 Controller - doesnt matter if its wired, performs EXACTLY the same, same design, same everything - $0 total - $350 for total experience next

Cool. I already own a Quad Core and an 8800GT. I guess by that logic PC gaming costs $0 for me. WOW WHAT A DEAL. And who needs a HDD? Saving games is overrated, I like to start fresh each time. Arcade games? New content for my 360 games? Nah, don't need that to enjoy the maximum 360 experience. And yes, XBL is totally 10x better than PC online. It's just slower, has less online games available, does less in terms of gaming and multimedia, has less people online and allows less people in matches, disallows most user and official content and costs $50 more a year. But other than that it's totally superior. And why would I ever need more than 1 controller for a console? You're right.

By your logic you are still an idiot. A television is owned for watching television, movies not JUST GAMES. No one buys a top of the line PC for running "microsoft word". seriously are you just pretending to be an idiot or are you really this stupid?

Well, let me put it this way. A HDTV is an extremely niche product not owned by the majority of households, does not sell more than SDTV CRTs and is not necessary to watch TV. It still however, allows you to watch TV, it's just a lot more expensive, and not too many people have them. A system with a Quad Core and an 8800GT is an extremely niche product not owned by the majority of households, does not sell more than crappy Dell systems and is not vital to have a working PC for the internet and MS word. It still however, allows you to use MS word and the internet, it's just a lot more expensive, and not too many people have them. See, HDTV is not standard, so when you pretend it is and try to remove it's cost from the equation, it gives me liberty to remove the cost of something that isn't standard from PCs. I also noticed you didn't address any of my other points.

Why would I waste my time on someone who never owned a Live account. Was a PC gamer for about 10 years, got on live and was blown away. There is nothing to address, you were speaking out of your ass.

I've had Live, didn't care for it (except for Gears of War online and Uno and Texas Hold Em from XBLA which were great), so I didn't continue with the service. Explain what's better about Live than PC online?

Again, your nitpicking my points because you know you can't provide a rational and cohesive response to all of them.

Anyway, I've had enough back and forth, there's little point debating with someone who thinks repeatedly calling his opponent an idiot is a viable tactic.

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lets put it like this... lets say i dont ahve a computer, no internet and no monitor. what will it cost me to get a decent gaming rig? im just pulling numbers out of my head but it would be roughly this. Monitor = $200 something just alright keyboard and decent mouse = $30 Computer = $650 thats vista, 1gig memory, 64bit processor, 200gig HD ,and lets say a 256gforce 7500 and then internet which for high speed is probabaly about $40 a month so...480 a year 200+30+650+480 = 1360 a year for a decent gaming set up with high speed internet.
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[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"][QUOTE="imprezawrx500"][QUOTE="Kaosed"]to have a solid framerate like 360 or ps3 u need to get the best gear available, wich means buy diffrent lets say each 4 or 7 months, so yes its more expensiveimprezawrx500
so thats why my year old system can run every game maxed perfect?

For one small payment of $1500, wow that is so cheap for one year of gamming compared to the $300 you can spend on 4-5 /rolls eyes

my a pc more powerful than consoles now will be in 2011 and my system wasn't $1500 but more like $700

Ya right your rig willl be outdated in a year in PC standards :lol: ... But you still never answered my question ;).
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imprezawrx500 I'm callin you out man. I would like to know how I can build a PC for $300 that is just as powerful as the 360. -supercharged-

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103760 3600x2 $83

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130073 7600gt $110

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211059 1gb ram $55

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813185083 motherboard $47

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811164057 case and 430w power supply $24

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827131038R 18x dvd burner $25

so for $350 you can get a pc that will run games just as well as x360 now or in 5 years time and also remember you need a memory card for x360 if you wana save your games

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#42 imprezawrx500
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="goblaa"]

[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"]I forgot you HAVE to buy it right? i mean yea. I can play any 360 game for only $300 with top of the line graphics. ahh, gotta love it, go cry some more, your age is showingSergeantSnitch

You also need your $2000 TV.

Omg pwned.

You can get an HDTV that displays 1080p for $800 bucks now. This will also last you many years. PC gaming is very expensive.

that will buy you pc pc that kills consoles
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#44 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="Happyphilter"]lets put it like this... lets say i dont ahve a computer, no internet and no monitor. what will it cost me to get a decent gaming rig? im just pulling numbers out of my head but it would be roughly this. Monitor = $200 something just alright keyboard and decent mouse = $30 Computer = $650 thats vista, 1gig memory, 64bit processor, 200gig HD ,and lets say a 256gforce 7500 and then internet which for high speed is probabaly about $40 a month so...480 a year 200+30+650+480 = 1360 a year for a decent gaming set up with high speed internet.

We don't count internet connection fees since you still need them for consoles.
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[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"][QUOTE="DoctorBunny"][QUOTE="imprezawrx500"][QUOTE="Kaosed"]to have a solid framerate like 360 or ps3 u need to get the best gear available, wich means buy diffrent lets say each 4 or 7 months, so yes its more expensive-supercharged-
so thats why my year old system can run every game maxed perfect?

For one small payment of $1500, wow that is so cheap for one year of gamming compared to the $300 you can spend on 4-5 /rolls eyes

my a pc more powerful than consoles now will be in 2011 and my system wasn't $1500 but more like $700

Ya right your rig willl be outdated in a year in PC standards :lol: ... But you still never answered my question ;).

out dated by pc standards yes but not by console standards
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#46 imprezawrx500
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Happyphilter"]lets put it like this... lets say i dont ahve a computer, no internet and no monitor. what will it cost me to get a decent gaming rig? im just pulling numbers out of my head but it would be roughly this. Monitor = $200 something just alright keyboard and decent mouse = $30 Computer = $650 thats vista, 1gig memory, 64bit processor, 200gig HD ,and lets say a 256gforce 7500 and then internet which for high speed is probabaly about $40 a month so...480 a year 200+30+650+480 = 1360 a year for a decent gaming set up with high speed internet.

We don't count internet connection fees since you still need them for consoles.

if you add the monitor add the hd tv to x360 and vista is $150 oem, I didn't lknow there was a geforce 7500
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#47 Happyphilter
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sure its all cheaper when you build the damn thing, but if everyone know how to build thier own computer companys wouldent be selling them. you take the face value of a built PC, not the price of its components. and i typoed 7800 into 7500
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#48 -supercharged-
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[QUOTE="-supercharged-"]imprezawrx500 I'm callin you out man. I would like to know how I can build a PC for $300 that is just as powerful as the 360. imprezawrx500

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103760 3600x2 $83

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130073 7600gt $110

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211059 1gb ram $55

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813185083 motherboard $47

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811164057 case and 430w power supply $24

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827131038R 18x dvd burner $25

so for $350 you can get a pc that will run games just as well as x360 now or in 5 years time and also remember you need a memory card for x360 if you wana save your games

You are forgetting case fans, processor fan and heatsink, PC case, floppy drive, Keyboard/Mouse
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Just lurking, not really contributing to the discussion. but just like to correct some facts: [QUOTE="-supercharged-"] processor fan and heatsink,

Provided with the CPU [QUOTE="-supercharged-"] PC case,

Already included. [QUOTE="-supercharged-"] floppy drive,

Don't need one.
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#50 Happyphilter
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either way a PC comes to about 700$ and thats for a lower end system that can still be used for gaming, for a few years atleast. i dont see how PC gaming is less expencive..unless you build it your own, and with the right shopping around you can pull it off.