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#1 210189677155857843583653671808
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There has been a lot of back and forth about the color issue for Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 for the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360. Lense of Truth take a look at how different the "default" settings are and show how to most closely mimic the two systems.

http://www.lensoftruth.com/?p=16360

When the colour are matched imo some of the PS3 screens look slightly better, but I would not say that with 100% confidence.

Lense of Truth have also opened an instresting debate with regards to defult colour:

If a game doesn't prompt you to make color adjustments do you go out of your way to adjust them, if available, in the options?

Should website that do game comparisons adjust the colours from the defult setting to get the best match?????

what do you guys think????



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#2 Blazerdt47
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I knew there was something wrong with the PS3 screens looking so washed out. They look exactly the same now. Lens of Truth should be more careful when comparing again.

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#3 Nidget
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Before Digital Foundry compared them, they adjusted the brightness levels so it was fair. The 360 version still comes out on top though.:wink:
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Before Digital Foundry compared them, they adjusted the brightness levels so it was fair. The 360 version still comes out on top though.:wink:Nidget

Yes, if you take a microscope and try to find everything thats missing :|

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Before Digital Foundry compared them, they adjusted the brightness levels so it was fair. The 360 version still comes out on top though.:wink:Nidget

That maybe so, but some of the screens by lens of truth do look better on the PS3

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#6 De_Bears
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I have both copies(360 and PS3), and on my 1080p Visio 32" the PS3 looked sharper and more colorful. Both systems were set up with HDMI cables.

Even if I could post pictures of what I found ther results are immediately obscured by the process of digital images over the internets.Hence; the only real way to choose is go for the copy that you and your friends will play the most.

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#7 lm2f
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Cows like to use the "the comparisons didn't set the colour setting to RGB range full!" without knowing that the 360 can also have it's reference level increased.
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#8 Shattered007
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I don't understand this thread....Even if they are exactly the same (which they're not) the 360 still has the better FPS, faster loading times, less screen tears. So what's the point?
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#9 Nidget
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[QUOTE="Nidget"]Before Digital Foundry compared them, they adjusted the brightness levels so it was fair. The 360 version still comes out on top though.:wink:anthonydwyer

That maybe so, but some of the screens by lens of truth do look better on the PS3

Digital Foundry has more credibility than Lens of Truth. Also, its not just graphics. The 360 wins in performance as well, something that can affect gameplay.
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#10 topgunmv
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Lens of truth has no credibility one way or the other after their batman comparison.

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#11 SolidTy
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GameTrailers ran into this problem a long while ago...just make the best comparison you can make, that's what I say.

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Before Digital Foundry compared them, they adjusted the brightness levels so it was fair. The 360 version still comes out on top though.:wink:Nidget
kinda off topic but could you please change your sig? you single handily make me want to disable sigs...
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[QUOTE="anthonydwyer"]

[QUOTE="Nidget"]Before Digital Foundry compared them, they adjusted the brightness levels so it was fair. The 360 version still comes out on top though.:wink:Nidget

That maybe so, but some of the screens by lens of truth do look better on the PS3

Digital Foundry has more credibility than Lens of Truth. Also, its not just graphics. The 360 wins in performance as well, something that can affect gameplay.

I dont find any games website credible to be honest they all have their own agenda. After playing MW2 on PS3 I can honestly say the performace of the game has been great.

Just because the 360 version may have a better frame rate, it does not translate into a better game. No matter what the difference in performance the PS3 version runs just fine.

Default graphics do look better on the 360 version but that seems more to do with the colour than anything else. When the colour is adjusted on the PS3 to match the 360 the graphics are equal and in some screens look better then the 360. but I would also asume its a vice versa effect with other games.

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#14 II_Seraphim_II
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I've played both version, not side by side, but at different times. Anyway, as far as I could tell, they look identical.
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If you can get a better looking game just by changing some setting, then yes, do the comparison with the best settings, the platform is clearly capable, this isn't some "hack" or mod to get it looking better.

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#16 Nidget
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[QUOTE="Nidget"][QUOTE="anthonydwyer"]

That maybe so, but some of the screens by lens of truth do look better on the PS3

anthonydwyer

Digital Foundry has more credibility than Lens of Truth. Also, its not just graphics. The 360 wins in performance as well, something that can affect gameplay.

I dont find any games website credible to be honest they all have their own agenda. After playing MW2 on PS3 I can honestly say the performace of the game has been great.

Just because the 360 version may have a better frame rate, it does not translate into a better game. No matter what the difference in performance the PS3 version runs just fine.

Default graphics do look better on the 360 version but that seems more to do with the colour than anything else. When the colour is adjusted on the PS3 to match the 360 the graphics are equal and in some screens look better then the 360. but I would also asume its a vice versa effect with other games.

Brightness doesnt effect texture detail, something which the PS3 lacks at times. Also, the 360 version has more bloom lighting. And again, the PS3 version may run fine, but the 360 version runs better.
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Brightness doesn't effect texture detail, something which the PS3 lacks at times. Also, the 360 version has more bloom lighting. And again, the PS3 version may run fine, but the 360 version runs better. Nidget

The fact that is runs better does not make it a better gaming experience, especially when the PS3 version is not hampered by the lesser performance. from what I can see the textures are the same and when the PS3 colour is adjusted to match the 360s some of them are sharper. The bloom effect is over done on the 360 version.

The only difference any normal person is gonna see with this game is the defult colour settings.

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They shouldn't bother.. because according to this board console gamers hate adjusting settings for graphics, and for the people arguing over whose version is best graphically here we go!

As usual, the PC version of the game looks better, but that's mainly due to higher-resolution textures and the ability to crank up antialiasing and anisotropic filtering settings. Outside of a few blurry textures on the PlayStation 3, the two console versions look largely the same.

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anyone with two eyes can see games look better on the PS3 dont need teh internetz to tell me
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[QUOTE="anthonydwyer"]

[QUOTE="Nidget"] Digital Foundry has more credibility than Lens of Truth. Also, its not just graphics. The 360 wins in performance as well, something that can affect gameplay.Nidget

I dont find any games website credible to be honest they all have their own agenda. After playing MW2 on PS3 I can honestly say the performace of the game has been great.

Just because the 360 version may have a better frame rate, it does not translate into a better game. No matter what the difference in performance the PS3 version runs just fine.

Default graphics do look better on the 360 version but that seems more to do with the colour than anything else. When the colour is adjusted on the PS3 to match the 360 the graphics are equal and in some screens look better then the 360. but I would also asume its a vice versa effect with other games.

Brightness doesnt effect texture detail, something which the PS3 lacks at times. Also, the 360 version has more bloom lighting. And again, the PS3 version may run fine, but the 360 version runs better.

I know, 2009 has been a rough year for the lemming; It's only going to get worse. When we get games like U2 and KZ2 in the same year, a subtle multiplat difference really doesn't matter. ;)

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Obviously, you should adjust for the best possible quality.

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Far far too many people care about these insignificant graphical issues. Who cares if Console A looks a hair more vibrant or if you can see two more trees two miles off in the distance on Console B? These things would often times be completely unnoticeable to a gamer who has bth systems and two copies of the game, let alone a person with a single system who is only ever going to play a single version of said game.
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[QUOTE="Nidget"]Before Digital Foundry compared them, they adjusted the brightness levels so it was fair. The 360 version still comes out on top though.:wink:taj7575

Yes, if you take a microscope and try to find everything thats missing :|

Damn right, my graphics are better than yours, i can teach you, but i'd have to charge
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#24 Nidget
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[QUOTE="Nidget"][QUOTE="anthonydwyer"]

I dont find any games website credible to be honest they all have their own agenda. After playing MW2 on PS3 I can honestly say the performace of the game has been great.

Just because the 360 version may have a better frame rate, it does not translate into a better game. No matter what the difference in performance the PS3 version runs just fine.

Default graphics do look better on the 360 version but that seems more to do with the colour than anything else. When the colour is adjusted on the PS3 to match the 360 the graphics are equal and in some screens look better then the 360. but I would also asume its a vice versa effect with other games.

furomaster_99

Brightness doesnt effect texture detail, something which the PS3 lacks at times. Also, the 360 version has more bloom lighting. And again, the PS3 version may run fine, but the 360 version runs better.

I know, 2009 has been a rough year for the lemming; It's only going to get worse. When we get games like U2 and KZ2 in the same year, a subtle multiplat difference really doesn't matter. ;)

KZ2? You mean that game that no one cares about? That game that even cows have forgotten about? :lol: Just deal with it, the PS3 version has blurry textures and its has nothing to do with the brightness.
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[QUOTE="furomaster_99"]

[QUOTE="Nidget"] Brightness doesnt effect texture detail, something which the PS3 lacks at times. Also, the 360 version has more bloom lighting. And again, the PS3 version may run fine, but the 360 version runs better. Nidget

I know, 2009 has been a rough year for the lemming; It's only going to get worse. When we get games like U2 and KZ2 in the same year, a subtle multiplat difference really doesn't matter. ;)

KZ2? You mean that game that no one cares about? That game that even cows have forgotten about? :lol: Just deal with it, the PS3 version has blurry textures and its has nothing to do with the brightness.

I was speaking from a visual perspective, not how popular the game is.:roll: It's widely known that KZ2 graphically trounces anything the 360 has to offer.

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[QUOTE="Nidget"][QUOTE="furomaster_99"]I know, 2009 has been a rough year for the lemming; It's only going to get worse. When we get games like U2 and KZ2 in the same year, a subtle multiplat difference really doesn't matter. ;)

furomaster_99

KZ2? You mean that game that no one cares about? That game that even cows have forgotten about? :lol: Just deal with it, the PS3 version has blurry textures and its has nothing to do with the brightness.

I was speaking from a visual perspective, not how popular the game is.:roll: It's widely known that KZ2 graphically trounces anything the 360 has to offer.

Congrats, you have a graphically nice game that no one cares about :wink:
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i always feel so left out of arguments like this since i believe playability, and online features and community are way more important than some measily 5% difference in gfx... boy what an idiot i am....

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I find whole of the graphics comparison thing ti be stupid tbh..especially when "wars" start on which games have a couple of pixils more, or which game have a slightly reddish red than the other...
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[QUOTE="furomaster_99"]

[QUOTE="Nidget"] KZ2? You mean that game that no one cares about? That game that even cows have forgotten about? :lol: Just deal with it, the PS3 version has blurry textures and its has nothing to do with the brightness. Nidget

I was speaking from a visual perspective, not how popular the game is.:roll: It's widely known that KZ2 graphically trounces anything the 360 has to offer.

Congrats, you have a graphically nice game that no one cares about :wink:

I don't care about MW2 after I finished the campaign after 5 hours. I played KZ2 alot more than MW2. COD is outdated in most of the stuff it does. It would'nt matter if MW2 had looked realistic if it kept the same un-realistic feel to the gameplay.
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[QUOTE="furomaster_99"]

[QUOTE="Nidget"] KZ2? You mean that game that no one cares about? That game that even cows have forgotten about? :lol: Just deal with it, the PS3 version has blurry textures and its has nothing to do with the brightness. Nidget

I was speaking from a visual perspective, not how popular the game is.:roll: It's widely known that KZ2 graphically trounces anything the 360 has to offer.

Congrats, you have a graphically nice game that no one cares about :wink:

Do you mean like Halo? Well of course not; Nothing pushes the industry forward like Halo! :roll:

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[QUOTE="Nidget"][QUOTE="furomaster_99"]I was speaking from a visual perspective, not how popular the game is.:roll: It's widely known that KZ2 graphically trounces anything the 360 has to offer.

Martin_G_N

Congrats, you have a graphically nice game that no one cares about :wink:

I don't care about MW2 after I finished the campaign after 5 hours. I played KZ2 alot more than MW2. COD is outdated in most of the stuff it does. It would'nt matter if MW2 had looked realistic if it kept the same un-realistic feel to the gameplay.

Ignore him, he is just mad no one bought forza 3.

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Do you mean like Halo? Well of course not; Nothing pushes the industry forward like Halo! :roll:

furomaster_99

Nice rebuttal, but it is not the same subject. He refers to the lack of a sizable community still playing KZ2, not on what it did or did not do to push the industry forward. Halo 3 may be many things, but forgotten is not one of them, since years post-release it is still a top XBL game.

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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="furomaster_99"]Do you mean like Halo? Well of course not; Nothing pushes the industry forward like Halo! :roll:

Nice rebuttal, but it is not the same subject. He refers to the lack of a sizable community still playing KZ2, not on what it did or did not do to push the industry forward. Halo 3 may be many things, but forgotten is not one of them, since years post-release it is still a top XBL game.

maybe cuz theres no other FPS exclusives to compete?
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[QUOTE="Jone_Z"] maybe cuz theres no other FPS exclusives to compete?

Nice try, but Resistance 2 is not exactly setting the PS3 charts on fire either. You could combine both and still it would be outdone by Halo 3's numbers. Next excuse?
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[QUOTE="Jone_Z"] maybe cuz theres no other FPS exclusives to compete?SpruceCaboose
Nice try, but Resistance 2 is not exactly setting the PS3 charts on fire either. You could combine both and still it would be outdone by Halo 3's numbers. Next excuse?

and what about MAG, R3, KZ3, the new motion wand game insomniac is working on, COD4 MW2 (better Graphics) etc etc.
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[QUOTE="Jone_Z"] and what about MAG, R3, KZ3, the new motion wand game insomniac is working on, COD4 MW2 (better Graphics) etc etc.

CoD MW2 is a multiplat, not an exclusive. MAG, R3, and KZ3 do not exist as retail products yet, so how they can compete for play time with games that are really out is baffling to me.
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[QUOTE="furomaster_99"]Do you mean like Halo? Well of course not; Nothing pushes the industry forward like Halo! :roll:

SpruceCaboose

Nice rebuttal, but it is not the same subject. He refers to the lack of a sizable community still playing KZ2, not on what it did or did not do to push the industry forward. Halo 3 may be many things, but forgotten is not one of them, since years post-release it is still a top XBL game.

That's true, not denying that. Without Halo, there would be no xbox360.

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[QUOTE="Jone_Z"] and what about MAG, R3, KZ3, the new motion wand game insomniac is working on, COD4 MW2 (better Graphics) etc etc.SpruceCaboose
CoD MW2 is a multiplat, not an exclusive. MAG, R3, and KZ3 do not exist as retail products yet, so how they can compete for play time with games that are really out is baffling to me.

actually MAG beta is playable lots of ppl on it and its sick
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="furomaster_99"]Do you mean like Halo? Well of course not; Nothing pushes the industry forward like Halo! :roll:

Jone_Z

Nice rebuttal, but it is not the same subject. He refers to the lack of a sizable community still playing KZ2, not on what it did or did not do to push the industry forward. Halo 3 may be many things, but forgotten is not one of them, since years post-release it is still a top XBL game.

maybe cuz theres no other FPS exclusives to compete?

Killzone 2 still has a very large userbase, I dont play on it all the time, but when I do the community always seems to be there. I never struggle to find a match and most of the rooms that are up and running tend to be full.

Plenty of people care about killzone 2

looking at the weekly table between 110,000 to 160,000 a week

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[QUOTE="anthonydwyer"]

[QUOTE="Jone_Z"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] Nice rebuttal, but it is not the same subject. He refers to the lack of a sizable community still playing KZ2, not on what it did or did not do to push the industry forward. Halo 3 may be many things, but forgotten is not one of them, since years post-release it is still a top XBL game.

maybe cuz theres no other FPS exclusives to compete?

Killzone 2 still has a very large userbase, I dont play on it all the time, but when I do the community always seems to be there. I never struggle to find a match and most of the rooms that are up and running tend to be full.

Plenty of people care about killzone 2

neither have i, i find games fine in KZ2 really quick and smooth too and no lag during gameplay, i dont know whos coming up with this other nonsense.
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Regardless of the color settings, the Xbox 360 version comes out on top;)
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anyone with two eyes can see games look better on the PS3 dont need teh internetz to tell meJone_Z
Anyone with two eyes can tell that you're an idiot.
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[QUOTE="anthonydwyer"]

[QUOTE="Jone_Z"] maybe cuz theres no other FPS exclusives to compete?Jone_Z

Killzone 2 still has a very large userbase, I dont play on it all the time, but when I do the community always seems to be there. I never struggle to find a match and most of the rooms that are up and running tend to be full.

Plenty of people care about killzone 2

neither have i, i find games fine in KZ2 really quick and smooth too and no lag during gameplay, i dont know whos coming up with this other nonsense.

I never said you could not find games on it. Only that IMO a huge game like KZ2 should have more people on it than currently are on it. No doubt you can find matches. I can find matches in it too, but I can also find matches in Halo 2, so finding matches is not the best indicator of players online at a time.
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neither have i, i find games fine in KZ2 really quick and smooth too and no lag during gameplay, i dont know whos coming up with this other nonsense.Jone_Z

going by the weekly table between 110,000 to 160,000 people play killzone 2.

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#45 Jone_Z
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[QUOTE="Jone_Z"]anyone with two eyes can see games look better on the PS3 dont need teh internetz to tell melm2f
Anyone with two eyes can tell that you're an idiot.

your an idiot biatress
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Cows like to use the "the comparisons didn't set the colour setting to RGB range full!" without knowing that the 360 can also have it's reference level increased.lm2f
we are talking bout brightness not rgb ranges guy
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[QUOTE="Jone_Z"] neither have i, i find games fine in KZ2 really quick and smooth too and no lag during gameplay, i dont know whos coming up with this other nonsense.anthonydwyer

going by the weekly table between 110,000 to 160,000 people play killzone 2 a week

Halo 3 unique players in the last 24 hours: 609,307. I didn't want this to become a number war, just trying to point out that people bagging on Halo 3 all the time seem to be missing the fact that the fans love it. That, and I personally think that KZ2 is not getting the love it should have gotten IMO.
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I don't change any colour options in game, and I don't think you should have to. As long as the TV's colour settings stay the same don't see the problem
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Halo 3 unique players in the last 24 hours: 609,307. I didn't want this to become a number war, just trying to point out that people bagging on Halo 3 all the time seem to be missing the fact that the fans love it. That, and I personally think that KZ2 is not getting the love it should have gotten IMO. SpruceCaboose

The problem is halo 3 was Released: Sep 26, 2007 while Killzone was released: Feb 27, 2009 (a difference of 17 months) the 360 also has a bigger install user base as it had a big headstart on the PS3.

Halo 3 (9.5 GS) is a sequal to what is regarded as the best FPS on a console, whislt Killzone 2 (9.0 GS) is the sequal to an average shooter.

The point is with all the information above its not surprising that Halo 3 community is bigger - but only an idiot would think no one cares about killzone 2.

lets not forget that killzone 2 scored a 9 on gamespot 17 months after Halo 3 scored a 9.5, logically killzone 2s 9 would be equally as good or better then halo 3s 9.5 since higher standards would be expected 17 months later.

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Halo 3 (9.5 GS) is a sequal to what is regarded as the best FPS on a console, whislt Killzone 2 (9.0 GS) is the sequal to an average shooter.

The point is with all the information above its not surprising that Halo 3 community is bigger - but only an idiot would think no one cares about killzone 2.

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I never said no one cares about KZ2. I said more people should care about KZ2.