Let me explain something about the Wii (especially for the blind fanboy)

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#1 solidte
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I'm sure many, many people are sick and tired of reading about Wii bashing threads, so i am going to tell you something about the Wii and it's purpose in the gaming industry.

Let's start off with the most bashed thing about the Wii, the graphical capabilities. Yeah the Wii has Xbox graphics, yes better hardware will make some games do unbelieveable things, good examples like, Oblivion, Mass Effect, MGS4, Crysis, games that will never work on the Wii. But remember, the Wii might have loss something but it gained something back, the motion sensing controls. It is clear that Resident Evil 4 is better on the Wii, it is clear that WarioWare could only work best on the Wii. The Wii is unique, Nintendo doesn't want to go in the same direction it did last time, because...well Nintendo would be just screwed again, Nintendo needed something diffrent to succeed.

It is true that the Wii gets many lazy ports, but why the hell would you want ports on the Wii? It just ain't a good idea other than for some quick cash, for the exception of a few games of course. Just don't expect much from ports, because you need to build specifically around the Wii to get the best out of it.

Onto online, okay i agree with many that the Wii...the Wii's online won't be anything great, it is very featureless and phone numbers aren't cool. But the Nintendo doesn't need to rely nearly as much as Sony and Microsoft do with online, anyways, if your an online kind of guy you probebly own another online system also anyways.

Alright now onto software. This years E3 may have been a bit of a dissapointment to Nintendo fans, Nintendo kind of walked onto the other side of the park to talk with the soccer mom. But Nintendo doesn't care, Nintendo is catering to the casual audience which i don't at all see as a bad thing like some people are claiming. Nintendo are swimming in their pile of money right now. But it's not like the core games are gone, Nintendo is still pumping out Metroid, Zelda, Mario, Paper Mario, Smash Bros, Mario Kart, those games are still there. It is true that there isn't a whole lot of third party support, you ain't going to get Assassins Creed, Bioshock, Metal Gear, Stranglehold ect on the Wii, Wii exclusive owners are definitely missing out on a whole lot. But remember your still getting great games on the Wii, Nintendo ain't asking you for $600 they are asking for $250, go do the Wii60 or PSWii thing.

So a good summary is, Nintendo is doing something diffrent, they need to do something diffrent, they aren't asking you to kill a cat to buy a PS3 or X360 or go and kill a horse for a gaming PC, it's a cheap, great secondary console for the hardcore, whos thumbs hurt and want to start hurting their arms and a exellent choice for the casual gamer who have moved on from their PS2.

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#3 Solid_Max13
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I respect Nintendo a lot for brining casual gamers into the market, but the way i see it everyday i see the wii becoming more of a fad everytime.
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#4 marioraider
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PS2> Wii In Games and Graphicssamtheprankster

Did you honestlyhave to type this?

Anyways, nice post.

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#5 wii4me
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PS2> Wii In Games and Graphicssamtheprankster
wii has better graphics then ps2, but i agree nintendo couldnt compete with xbox and ps3 if it had hd graphics, plus do u really want mario kart hd
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[QUOTE="samtheprankster"]PS2> Wii In Games and Graphicswii4me
wii has better graphics then ps2, but i agree nintendo couldnt compete with xbox and ps3 if it had hd graphics, plus do u really want mario kart hd

Ok, i'll put it another way,

Wii= Cartoony graphics (Zelda, Mario, Sonic etc.)

PS2 = More Realistic graphics

I prefer More Realistic graphics

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#7 Ontain
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I respect Nintendo a lot for brining casual gamers into the market, but the way i see it everyday i see the wii becoming more of a fad everytime.Solid_Max13

how do you define fad? the wii will be the lead console before the end of the year. and it's always sold well. if anything the ps3 is the fad since it's sales are way down since launch (when it was the fad).

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#8 REVOLUTIONfreak
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Nintendo's online doesn't necessarily suck... they just have a different viewpoint on it. They use the Wii's online capabilities more for new Channels than games, but we're still getting online games too which is good.

Anyway, I just now realized that you can now buy a Wii and a 360 for the exact same price as a PS3. :shock:

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#9 tomarlyn
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I prefer RE4 on the Cube with its original gameplay, the Wiimote is overrated and I'm tired of people lording it over high tech systems, with the likes of Mass Effect and Bioshock just because of a fancy controller.

I've loved every console they've made but this thing is terrible, thats my point of view and I'm tired of these excuses people keep making for it. They have a just cause but whats it got to do with me? The fruits of their vison won't blossom for another generation or two. Let Joe Casual and his mom enjoy it, let people enjoy it as a fresh change of pace just stop shoving this thing in my face like its gods gift to the industry. I'd rather keep playing any of last-gens offerings.

Thats my point of view I know other gamers and fanboys will think differently.

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#10 samtheprankster
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That's the worst thing i've ever heard, Wii + 360? PS3 and wii, or 360 by itself, but not 360 + wii

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#11 II-FBIsniper-II
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I agree, I don't know how people like to have a Wii without another console.
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[QUOTE="wii4me"][QUOTE="samtheprankster"]PS2> Wii In Games and Graphicssamtheprankster

wii has better graphics then ps2, but i agree nintendo couldnt compete with xbox and ps3 if it had hd graphics, plus do u really want mario kart hd

Ok, i'll put it another way,

Wii= Cartoony graphics (Zelda, Mario, Sonic etc.)

PS2 = More Realistic graphics

I prefer More Realistic graphics

true, even though zelda and mg seem to be darker and more realistic
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[QUOTE="Solid_Max13"]I respect Nintendo a lot for brining casual gamers into the market, but the way i see it everyday i see the wii becoming more of a fad everytime.Ontain

how do you define fad? the wii will be the lead console before the end of the year. and it's always sold well. if anything the ps3 is the fad since it's sales are way down since launch (when it was the fad).

A fad is something that explodes in popularity in a short amount of time and goes out of favor in a couple of years. There is no way to know right now if the Wii is a fad or not.

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#14 samtheprankster
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[QUOTE="samtheprankster"]

[QUOTE="wii4me"][QUOTE="samtheprankster"]PS2> Wii In Games and Graphicswii4me

wii has better graphics then ps2, but i agree nintendo couldnt compete with xbox and ps3 if it had hd graphics, plus do u really want mario kart hd

Ok, i'll put it another way,

Wii= Cartoony graphics (Zelda, Mario, Sonic etc.)

PS2 = More Realistic graphics

I prefer More Realistic graphics

true, even though zelda and mg seem to be darker and more realistic

I hope they stay cartoony, what happened to the days when mario just rescued a princess, in the next game it'll be a fps

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#15 nintendofreak_2
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I'm sorry but the Wii has better than Xbox graphics. The only advantage is the Xbox has a larger harddrive and more advanced shaders. One game on the Wii that couldn't be done on the Xbox is SMG.

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[QUOTE="wii4me"][QUOTE="samtheprankster"]PS2> Wii In Games and Graphicssamtheprankster

wii has better graphics then ps2, but i agree nintendo couldnt compete with xbox and ps3 if it had hd graphics, plus do u really want mario kart hd

Ok, i'll put it another way,

Wii= Cartoony graphics (Zelda, Mario, Sonic etc.)

PS2 = More Realistic graphics

I prefer More Realistic graphics

What? You can't label a console as having only cartoony graphics... different games have different art styles. For one thing, Zelda was the only game that had cartoony graphics out of those three franchises (which was cel shading, which I wouldn't call "cartoony", it's just a different art style), the rest all have completely different art styles. That's pretty generic to just label a game as "cartoony".
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[QUOTE="wii4me"][QUOTE="samtheprankster"]

[QUOTE="wii4me"][QUOTE="samtheprankster"]PS2> Wii In Games and Graphicssamtheprankster

wii has better graphics then ps2, but i agree nintendo couldnt compete with xbox and ps3 if it had hd graphics, plus do u really want mario kart hd

Ok, i'll put it another way,

Wii= Cartoony graphics (Zelda, Mario, Sonic etc.)

PS2 = More Realistic graphics

I prefer More Realistic graphics

true, even though zelda and mg seem to be darker and more realistic

I hope they stay cartoony, what happened to the days when mario just rescued a princess, in the next game it'll be a fps

i can see it now- mario: platforming evolved
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very nice.  People are bashing the Wii because they want the exact thing from every console, but I just thank god Nintendo didn't do what they did with the Cube or N64, because I would've made the 360 my primary console if that happened
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#19 Stonin
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That's the worst thing i've ever heard, Wii + 360? PS3 and wii, or 360 by itself, but not 360 + wii

samtheprankster

Yeah, geta Wii and a PS3 not a 360 and Wii.....I mean, if you got the 360 combo you'd actually have a bunch of AAA titles to play for a few hundred bucks less....never should someone do such a thing!

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#20 marioraider
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I prefer RE4 on the Cube with its original gameplay, the Wiimote is overrated and I'm tired of people lording it over high tech systems, with the likes of Mass Effect and Bioshock just because of a fancy controller.

I've loved every console they've made but this thing is terrible, thats my point of view and I'm tired of these excuses people keep making for it. They have a just cause but whats it got to do with me? The fruits of their vison won't blossom for another generation or two. Let Joe Casual and his mom enjoy it, let people enjoy it as a fresh change of pace just stop shoving this thing in my face like its gods gift to the industry. I'd rather keep playing any of last-gens offerings.

Thats my point of view I know other gamers and fanboys will think differently.

tomarlyn

Of course that's your opinion about the Wii. And I think differently from that. Simply because I have a Wii and enjoy the games that it has to offer so far. And you don't enjoy the games, and thats fine. The fanboys that are like "ur wrongz" and LOLOLOL N00B", no one should listen to them anyways :P

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#21 the_wet_mop
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[QUOTE="wii4me"][QUOTE="samtheprankster"]PS2> Wii In Games and Graphicssamtheprankster

wii has better graphics then ps2, but i agree nintendo couldnt compete with xbox and ps3 if it had hd graphics, plus do u really want mario kart hd

Ok, i'll put it another way,

Wii= Cartoony graphics (Zelda, Mario, Sonic etc.)

PS2 = More Realistic graphics

I prefer More Realistic graphics

its one thing to say its not as strong as the ps3/360. but we all know its stronger than the ps2. i mean, the ps2 wasnt even has powerful as the gamecube.

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I'd like to take the time to thank Nintendo for the NES, SNES, N64, and some of the games they gave me on the GC. Thank you Nintendo, the time we spent toghter will be missed. :cry:

On topic, it's all about preference and everybody is intitled to their own opinion. I do not wish to give mine seeing as how my disaproval of the wii will lead to a flame war, which I don't want to take part in.

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#23 Solid_Max13
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I'd really like to see nintendo look to the future i mean enough with Mario, he's a great iconic charatcer but we need new blood.
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#24 the_wet_mop
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^ as much as a like mario games i agree with you here. nintendo needs to keep making new franchises. i mean, pikmin did pretty well last gen.
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#25 wii4me
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I'd like to take the time to thank Nintendo for the NES, SNES, N64, and some of the games they gave me on the GC. Thank you Nintendo, the time we spent toghter will be missed. :cry:

On topic, it's all about preference and everybody is intitled to their own opinion. I do not wish to give mine seeing as how my disaproval of the wii will lead to a flame war, which I don't want to take part in.

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#26 tomarlyn
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I'd like to take the time to thank Nintendo for the NES, SNES, N64, and some of the games they gave me on the GC. Thank you Nintendo, the time we spent toghter will be missed. :cry:

On topic, it's all about preference and everybody is intitled to their own opinion. I do not wish to give mine seeing as how my disaproval of the wii will lead to a flame war, which I don't want to take part in.

CB4McGusto

No fear here, lol. I'm brutally honest with my opinions :P

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#27 II-FBIsniper-II
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I'd like to take the time to thank Nintendo for the NES, SNES, N64, and some of the games they gave me on the GC. Thank you Nintendo, the time we spent toghter will be missed. :cry:

On topic, it's all about preference and everybody is intitled to their own opinion. I do not wish to give mine seeing as how my disaproval of the wii will lead to a flame war, which I don't want to take part in.

CB4McGusto
Nonsense, you have to participate in a flame war/debate to actually have fun in system wars.
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#28 Warfust
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I was going to read it, but early in you said that the Wii has xbox level graphics. Kind of ruins whatever credibility you had.
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[QUOTE="Ontain"]

[QUOTE="Solid_Max13"]I respect Nintendo a lot for brining casual gamers into the market, but the way i see it everyday i see the wii becoming more of a fad everytime.ramey70

how do you define fad? the wii will be the lead console before the end of the year. and it's always sold well. if anything the ps3 is the fad since it's sales are way down since launch (when it was the fad).

A fad is something that explodes in popularity in a short amount of time and goes out of favor in a couple of years. There is no way to know right now if the Wii is a fad or not.

so fads now last years? is the ps2 a fad then? it exploded in popularity and brought in a lot more ppl to gaming too.

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#30 CB4McGusto
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[QUOTE="CB4McGusto"]

I'd like to take the time to thank Nintendo for the NES, SNES, N64, and some of the games they gave me on the GC. Thank you Nintendo, the time we spent toghter will be missed. :cry:

On topic, it's all about preference and everybody is intitled to their own opinion. I do not wish to give mine seeing as how my disaproval of the wii will lead to a flame war, which I don't want to take part in.

tomarlyn

No fear here, lol. I'm brutally honest with my opinions :P

I ain't scared!!!!

It just that my honest opinions lead to me vs. every sheep(which is the 84% population)in SW and I can't type up a respone that fast.:P Not to mention logic that is disaproved by a mod usually gets you suspended, or banned.

Edit: Damn Glitchspot!

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#31 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="CB4McGusto"]

I'd like to take the time to thank Nintendo for the NES, SNES, N64, and some of the games they gave me on the GC. Thank you Nintendo, the time we spent toghter will be missed. :cry:

On topic, it's all about preference and everybody is intitled to their own opinion. I do not wish to give mine seeing as how my disaproval of the wii will lead to a flame war, which I don't want to take part in.

CB4McGusto

No fear here, lol. I'm brutally honest with my opinions :P

I ain't scared!!!!

It just that my honestopinions lead to me vs. every sheep(whichis the84% population)inSW and I can't type up a responethat fast. :P Not to mention logic that is disaproved by a mod usually gets you suspended, or banned.

Yeah they get on your back like a rabid chimp and use stealth flaming wherever possible.

*no offense to anyone*

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#32 solidte
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I was going to read it, but early in you said that the Wii has xbox level graphics. Kind of ruins whatever credibility you had.Warfust

I don't really want to debate if it has better or not or equal graphics to the Xbox, it's kind of hard to tell since the best looking Xbox game in my opinion is Riddick, a much more realistic artstyle compared to SMG a very cartoonish artstyle, i haven't seen a realistic looking game on the Wii that looks better than Riddick.

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#33 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="Warfust"]I was going to read it, but early in you said that the Wii has xbox level graphics. Kind of ruins whatever credibility you had.solidte

I don't really want to debate if it has better or not or equal graphics to the Xbox, it's kind of hard to tell since the best looking Xbox game in my opinion is Riddick, a much more realistic artstyle compared to SMG a very cartoonish artstyle, i haven't seen a realistic looking game on the Wii that looks better than Riddick.

Fable and Conker look just as good as Galaxy, even with a cartoony art style.

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If their doing something different then where are the different games? Not zelda, mario or metroid prime, or regular ports with nintendo characters, i also dont want mini games, I want to see new IPs where are they?
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#35 solidte
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[QUOTE="solidte"]

[QUOTE="Warfust"]I was going to read it, but early in you said that the Wii has xbox level graphics. Kind of ruins whatever credibility you had.tomarlyn

I don't really want to debate if it has better or not or equal graphics to the Xbox, it's kind of hard to tell since the best looking Xbox game in my opinion is Riddick, a much more realistic artstyle compared to SMG a very cartoonish artstyle, i haven't seen a realistic looking game on the Wii that looks better than Riddick.

Fable and Conker look just as good as Galaxy, even with a cartoony art style.

Oh yeah, Conker looks just as great as SMG, pretty comparable games graphically.

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[QUOTE="wii4me"][QUOTE="samtheprankster"]

[QUOTE="wii4me"][QUOTE="samtheprankster"]PS2> Wii In Games and Graphicssamtheprankster

wii has better graphics then ps2, but i agree nintendo couldnt compete with xbox and ps3 if it had hd graphics, plus do u really want mario kart hd

Ok, i'll put it another way,

Wii= Cartoony graphics (Zelda, Mario, Sonic etc.)

PS2 = More Realistic graphics

I prefer More Realistic graphics

true, even though zelda and mg seem to be darker and more realistic

I hope they stay cartoony, what happened to the days when mario just rescued a princess, in the next game it'll be a fps

exactly! thats one thing that people never really bring up  is that how far can nintendo games go in the graphics department??? are you gonna wanna play a completly realistic mario? no, nintendo needs to keep there cartoonish graphics, i think that what makes them nintendo.
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#37 walkerctranger
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If their doing something different then where are the different games? Not zelda, mario or metroid prime, or regular ports with nintendo characters, i also dont want mini games, I want to see new IPs where are they?Puppa_Shogun
uh. wiifit? diaster say of crysis. and miyamoto says he will announce a few new character franchises soon, so, i guess will just have to wait/
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#38 azimiballer
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i would enjoy it for a couple of days. but believe me after that i'll be bored!!
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#39 Zhengi
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^ as much as a like mario games i agree with you here. nintendo needs to keep making new franchises. i mean, pikmin did pretty well last gen.the_wet_mop

Nintendo is working on new IPs. What makes you think they're not?

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#40 Saturos3091
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I pretty much agree with the original poster, and I can count on my favorite franchises still being around on the Wii.

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#41 wii4me
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the wii is the best system right now because of its price, games, features and free wifi, and i hate it when sony slaves say its a fad, 10 million units in 9 months isnt a fad