Lets be HONEST here PEOPLE! MS is wiping the floor with Sony and GAMES/SOFTWARE

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#1 Eddie_Munster08
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Seriously:roll: Sony is hardly even a thought in regards to tv adds sponsored show tv shows references made by tv programs movies whatever especially here in the states. Hmm yeah ok not in Japan but USA for sure and it's up for debate in other regions.

My point is.

The 360 completely and utterly RIDICULOUSLY out classes PS3 in Game now and in the future and Xbox Live arcade online content everything. Yes 360 is a piece of **** in terms of hardware reliability AKA just like the PS2 did disk read error:shock: but a big but it is getting corrected as we speak.

But 2 out of the 3 and the most important 2 GAMES and ONLINE CONTENT the 360 lays a Hulk Hogan boot and then follows with a Hogan leg drop on the PS3.

Anyone that would even honestly believe other wise has baby batter Spackled all over their fanboy goggles.

RPG"S

Sports

Racing

Fighters

Action

Shooters.

360 has it on LOCKDOWN.

Xbox Live and Xbox Live arcade LOCKDOWN

Oh yeah Live TV shows and Movie network downloads LOCKDOWN.

:shock:

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Does it matter if one company it's whipping another's butt in software sales? I never have and never will buy a console just because it has a lot of games, because quanity =/= quality.

I'd rather buy a console with 5 incredible games than a console with 300 crappy games.

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:roll:......Yeah, whatever you say.
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Does it matter if one company it's whipping another's butt in software sales? I never have and never will buy a console just because it has a lot of games, because quanity =/= quality.

I'd rather buy a console with 5 incredible games than a console with 300 crappy games.

-Jiggles-

So the whole PS2 has the best game library never existed in your mind and others:roll:

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to bad wii owns 360 in sales
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Does it matter if one company it's whipping another's butt in software sales? I never have and never will buy a console just because it has a lot of games, because quanity =/= quality.

I'd rather buy a console with 5 incredible games than a console with 300 crappy games.

-Jiggles-
Dont listen, he is just trolling, he doesnt think well.
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to bad wii owns 360 in salesdeadmeat59

Yes the Wii has the most system sales. Why it's CHEAP and it REEKS of casual.

Wii also has the most A trash titles for any current system.

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#8 pastro243
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[QUOTE="-Jiggles-"]

Does it matter if one company it's whipping another's butt in software sales? I never have and never will buy a console just because it has a lot of games, because quanity =/= quality.

I'd rather buy a console with 5 incredible games than a console with 300 crappy games.

Eddie_Munster08

So the whole PS2 has the best game library never existed in your mind and others:roll:

.......Yes
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Care to put in a single FACT anywhere?

I'm not asking for a bunch but if you could at least give some sort of factual evidence instead of an opinion piece that would be terrific.

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#10 VanHelsingBoA64
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WHY do you RANDOMLY CAPATALIZED words? SERIOUSLY..
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#11 Eddie_Munster08
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Care to put in a single FACT anywhere?

I'm not asking for a bunch but if you could at least give some sort of factual evidence instead of an opinion piece that would be terrific.

Jaysonguy

360 has a TON of AWSOME Live arcade games FACT.

360 has a TON of awsome tv shows and movies in HD for download FACT.

360 has a TON of great games out now and a TON of future great games. FACT and lets sweeten this a bit. You know how summer is a slow time of year for gamer. Ninja Gaiden 2 in June AM CRY:cry:fanboys. FACT.

360 will own the holidays again for best games. Banjo 3 and Gears 2 FACT.

360 has the best online FACT

360 has the most AAA's this gen FACT

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#12 Jaysonguy
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WHY do you RANDOMLY CAPATALIZED words? SERIOUSLY..VanHelsingBoA64

It's used to show voice inflection on certain words as if you were speaking aloud.

Of course some people go a little overboard

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Actually the PS3 is wiping the floor with the 360 in Europe (yeah, it's incredible news, there isn't only the american market), and even in the US the 360 is weakening.

A situation that can only make me rejoice, as a satisfied user of both systems, since close competition makes for a better market for ALL gamers, and as long as both PS3 and 360 are strong enough, most third party developers will prefer them (since you can develop more or less the same game on both consoles) over the Wii (wich needs separate work).

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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Care to put in a single FACT anywhere?

I'm not asking for a bunch but if you could at least give some sort of factual evidence instead of an opinion piece that would be terrific.

Eddie_Munster08

360 has a TON of AWSOME Live arcade games FACT.

360 has a TON of awsome tv shows and movies in HD for download FACT.

360 has a TON of great games out now and a TON of future great games. FACT and lets sweeten this a bit. You know how summer is a slow time of year for gamer. Ninja Gaiden 2 in June AM CRY:cry:fanboys. FACT.

360 will own the holidays again for best games. Banjo 3 and Gears 2 FACT.

360 has the best online FACT

360 has the most AAA's this gen FACT

Wow, with such words as "TON" you sure do make a compelling argument

I'm pretty sure that's used as fact, words like "ton" and "a lot" and a "whole bunch"

I see those terms used in many a business report

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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Care to put in a single FACT anywhere?

I'm not asking for a bunch but if you could at least give some sort of factual evidence instead of an opinion piece that would be terrific.

Eddie_Munster08

360 has a TON of AWSOME Live arcade games FACT.

360 has a TON of awsome tv shows and movies in HD for download FACT.

360 has a TON of great games out now and a TON of future great games. FACT and lets sweeten this a bit. You know how summer is a slow time of year for gamer. Ninja Gaiden 2 in June AM CRY:cry:fanboys. FACT.

360 will own the holidays again for best games. Banjo 3 and Gears 2 FACT.

360 has the best online FACT

360 has the most AAA's this gen FACT

No, PC has the most AAA's this gen. You fail.

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Actually the PS3 is wiping the floor with the 360 in Europe (yeah, it's incredible news, there isn't only the american market), and even in the US the 360 is weakening.

A situation that can only make me rejoice, as a satisfied user of both systems, since close competition makes for a better market for ALL gamers, and as long as both PS3 and 360 are strong enough, most third party developers will prefer them (since you can develop more or less the same game on both consoles) over the Wii (wich needs separate work).

Abriael

360's have been constrained this has caused the sales dip not less buyers. They are just now coming back into stock.

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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Care to put in a single FACT anywhere?

I'm not asking for a bunch but if you could at least give some sort of factual evidence instead of an opinion piece that would be terrific.

Eddie_Munster08

360 has a TON of AWSOME Live arcade games FACT.

360 has a TON of awsome tv shows and movies in HD for download FACT.

360 has a TON of great games out now and a TON of future great games. FACT and lets sweeten this a bit. You know how summer is a slow time of year for gamer. Ninja Gaiden 2 in June AM CRY:cry:fanboys. FACT.

360 will own the holidays again for best games. Banjo 3 and Gears 2 FACT.

360 has the best online FACT

360 has the most AAA's this gen FACT

I only see 1 fact there
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[QUOTE="Eddie_Munster08"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Care to put in a single FACT anywhere?

I'm not asking for a bunch but if you could at least give some sort of factual evidence instead of an opinion piece that would be terrific.

gatorteen

360 has a TON of AWSOME Live arcade games FACT.

360 has a TON of awsome tv shows and movies in HD for download FACT.

360 has a TON of great games out now and a TON of future great games. FACT and lets sweeten this a bit. You know how summer is a slow time of year for gamer. Ninja Gaiden 2 in June AM CRY:cry:fanboys. FACT.

360 will own the holidays again for best games. Banjo 3 and Gears 2 FACT.

360 has the best online FACT

360 has the most AAA's this gen FACT

No, PC has the most AAA's this gen. You fail.

PC is an endless ongoing gen it's nor curent or past nor future it's always gen.

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[QUOTE="Eddie_Munster08"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Care to put in a single FACT anywhere?

I'm not asking for a bunch but if you could at least give some sort of factual evidence instead of an opinion piece that would be terrific.

pastro243

360 has a TON of AWSOME Live arcade games FACT.

360 has a TON of awsome tv shows and movies in HD for download FACT.

360 has a TON of great games out now and a TON of future great games. FACT and lets sweeten this a bit. You know how summer is a slow time of year for gamer. Ninja Gaiden 2 in June AM CRY:cry:fanboys. FACT.

360 will own the holidays again for best games. Banjo 3 and Gears 2 FACT.

360 has the best online FACT

360 has the most AAA's this gen FACT

I only see 1 fact there

Which one do you see?

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[QUOTE="gatorteen"][QUOTE="Eddie_Munster08"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Care to put in a single FACT anywhere?

I'm not asking for a bunch but if you could at least give some sort of factual evidence instead of an opinion piece that would be terrific.

Eddie_Munster08

360 has a TON of AWSOME Live arcade games FACT.

360 has a TON of awsome tv shows and movies in HD for download FACT.

360 has a TON of great games out now and a TON of future great games. FACT and lets sweeten this a bit. You know how summer is a slow time of year for gamer. Ninja Gaiden 2 in June AM CRY:cry:fanboys. FACT.

360 will own the holidays again for best games. Banjo 3 and Gears 2 FACT.

360 has the best online FACT

360 has the most AAA's this gen FACT

No, PC has the most AAA's this gen. You fail.

PC is an endless ongoing gen it's nor curent or past nor future it's always gen.

Ok let me make this clear to you. During the 360's lifespan PC has had the most AAA's.

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[QUOTE="deadmeat59"]to bad wii owns 360 in salesEddie_Munster08

Yes the Wii has the most system sales. Why it's CHEAP and it REEKS of casual.

Wii also has the most A trash titles for any current system.

Didn't the PS2 have shovelware? The most popular console will have shovelware no matter what. Should gaming be restricted to the hardcore gamers? I think not since not everyone is hardcore. I, myself, consider myself casual since I don't buy all of the hotest titles that are out there since I don't play to stickly pawn others in an online death battle were I win while taking little or no damage. I was being sarcastic with the latter part of my sentence just to let others know. I just play for fun and not to "own" my opponents in some death battle.

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[QUOTE="Eddie_Munster08"][QUOTE="gatorteen"][QUOTE="Eddie_Munster08"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Care to put in a single FACT anywhere?

I'm not asking for a bunch but if you could at least give some sort of factual evidence instead of an opinion piece that would be terrific.

gatorteen

360 has a TON of AWSOME Live arcade games FACT.

360 has a TON of awsome tv shows and movies in HD for download FACT.

360 has a TON of great games out now and a TON of future great games. FACT and lets sweeten this a bit. You know how summer is a slow time of year for gamer. Ninja Gaiden 2 in June AM CRY:cry:fanboys. FACT.

360 will own the holidays again for best games. Banjo 3 and Gears 2 FACT.

360 has the best online FACT

360 has the most AAA's this gen FACT

No, PC has the most AAA's this gen. You fail.

PC is an endless ongoing gen it's nor curent or past nor future it's always gen.

Ok let me make this clear to you. During the 360's lifespan PC has had the most AAA's.

name them.

And DO NOT NAME ones that were ported over from 360 to PC. They all have to be PC exclusive.

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360's have been constrained this has caused the sales dip not less buyers. They are just now coming back into stock.Eddie_Munster08

Actually i still have to hear from a single person, in the US, that he or she had any problem finding a 360 in the past couple months. Actually i even advised a couple of american friends (one in LA and one in Boston) to buy one in january and they had absolutely no problem. Maybe there's a shortage in Alaska? :D

Honestly the timing and the way this "shortage" has been communicated sounds fishy as hell to me, and Microsoft isn't new to this kind of cover-ups (nor is Sony, after all).

What's for sure is that there's absolutely no shortage in Europe, where shops burst with unsold 360s. The PS3 took 4 months less to sell 10 millions units, despite the delay in european release, and it's pretty much a fact that the PS3 will sooner or later overtake the 360 in worldwide sales. In any case Microsoft should already be satisfied ending this generation in third position but having still eat up most of the disadvantage the original xbox had against the PS2.

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You do realize that the 360 has been on the market for one more year and when you compare the 360 first year VS PS3's first year you have the PS3 beating it in sales 4 months ahead and same game attachment ratio

Wii is owning both of them in sales anyway

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360 will own the holidays again for best games. Banjo 3 and Gears 2 FACT.

Eddie_Munster08

Don't count your chickens before they hatch since it's too early to tell who will win the holidays this year for the best games.

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[QUOTE="Eddie_Munster08"]360's have been constrained this has caused the sales dip not less buyers. They are just now coming back into stock.Abriael

Actually i still have to hear from a single person, in the US, that he or she had any problem finding a 360 in the past couple months. Actually i even advised a couple of american friends to buy one (one in LA and one in Boston) to buy one in january and they had absolutely no problem. Maybe there's a shortage in Alaska? :D

Honestly the timing and the way this "shortage" has been communicated sounds fishy as hell to me, and Microsoft isn't new to this kind of cover-ups (nor is Sony, after all).

What's for sure is that there's absolutely no shortage in Europe, where shops burst with unsold 360s. The PS3 took 4 months less to sell 10 millions units, despite the delay in european release, and it's pretty much a fact that the PS3 will sooner or later overtake the 360 in worldwide sales. In any case Microsoft should already be satisfied ending this generation in third position but having still eat up most of the disadvantage the original xbox had against the PS2.

Trust me they have been shortages.

Me and my buddy had to look and wait for about a week to find them and many others have reported throughout the USA of the same issues. And many on here will atest to this.

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The wii (wich i'll buy at the end of the month due to the release of one game i HAVE to own) has only one big problem. Third party developers have a really hard time selling their games on it.

That's mostly because of the hammering nintendo ad campaign that basically "sold" the wii to the masses as a console targeted above and belove the usual target of videogames.

It's quite shameful that abnsolute masterpieces like No More Heroes are destine to sell in low numbers despite the enormous installed base they could count on.

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You do realize that the 360 has been on the market for one more year and when you compare the 360 first year VS PS3's first year you have the PS3 beating it in sales 4 months ahead and same game attachment ratio

Wii is owning both of them in sales anyway

Mongo-Boss

NOPE nice try. 360 first year had HUGE constraints the first 6 months so bad that you could still sell or buy a 360 on Ebay for well over retail months after launch.

PS3 on the other hand had PILES of PS3 on retail floors. And you could not even sell it on Ebay on day 1 for even retail in most cases.

So this is a very contrued myth

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Me and my buddy had to look and wait for about a week to find them and many others have reported throughout the USA of the same issues. And many on here will atest to this.Eddie_Munster08

Even if they might have shortages in some parts of the US (definately not all round) you can be sure there's none in Europe, and Europe is by far the most promising market for gaming nowadays (more people, more people with money, more new and unexplored markets like the CSI). The PS3's dominance in Europe is going to decide who (between the PS3 and the 360) will come up on top worldwide.

And please, let's be fair. Let's not come up with myths of the 360 being held back. The PS3 has been held back MUCH more by having been the first 6 months without an entire market (europe). That's what one calls holding back.

The PS3 sells faster worldwde, that's all there's to it.

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[QUOTE="Abriael"]

[QUOTE="Eddie_Munster08"]360's have been constrained this has caused the sales dip not less buyers. They are just now coming back into stock.Eddie_Munster08

Actually i still have to hear from a single person, in the US, that he or she had any problem finding a 360 in the past couple months. Actually i even advised a couple of american friends to buy one (one in LA and one in Boston) to buy one in january and they had absolutely no problem. Maybe there's a shortage in Alaska? :D

Honestly the timing and the way this "shortage" has been communicated sounds fishy as hell to me, and Microsoft isn't new to this kind of cover-ups (nor is Sony, after all).

What's for sure is that there's absolutely no shortage in Europe, where shops burst with unsold 360s. The PS3 took 4 months less to sell 10 millions units, despite the delay in european release, and it's pretty much a fact that the PS3 will sooner or later overtake the 360 in worldwide sales. In any case Microsoft should already be satisfied ending this generation in third position but having still eat up most of the disadvantage the original xbox had against the PS2.

Trust me they have been shortages.

Me and my buddy had to look and wait for about a week to find them and many others have reported throughout the USA of the same issues. And many on here will atest to this.

The Wii has shortages everywhere, yet it still remains at the top in sales every month. How do you explain that?

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[QUOTE="Mongo-Boss"]

You do realize that the 360 has been on the market for one more year and when you compare the 360 first year VS PS3's first year you have the PS3 beating it in sales 4 months ahead and same game attachment ratio

Wii is owning both of them in sales anyway

Eddie_Munster08

NOPE nice try. 360 first year had HUGE constraints the first 6 months so bad that you could still sell or buy a 360 on Ebay for well over retail months after launch.

PS3 on the other hand had PILES of PS3 on retail floors. And you could not even sell it on Ebay on day 1 for even retail in most cases.

So this is a very contrued myth

I dont think you have stated a fact the whole time youve been on this thread.

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[QUOTE="Mongo-Boss"]

You do realize that the 360 has been on the market for one more year and when you compare the 360 first year VS PS3's first year you have the PS3 beating it in sales 4 months ahead and same game attachment ratio

Wii is owning both of them in sales anyway

Eddie_Munster08

NOPE nice try. 360 first year had HUGE constraints the first 6 months so bad that you could still sell or buy a 360 on Ebay for well over retail months after launch.

PS3 on the other hand had PILES of PS3 on retail floors. And you could not even sell it on Ebay on day 1 for even retail in most cases.

So this is a very contrued myth

PS3 had trouble making it on time in Europe if I'm not mistaken and as for your Ebay and retail floor comment...it's as useless as your "FACT" post last page

Say 360 was released 6 months before the PS3 it makes no difference. The PS3 has still done better during it's first 6 months. It sold more in 07 worldwide than the 360 either way.

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Seriously:roll: Sony is hardly even a thought in regards to tv adds sponsored show tv shows references made by tv programs movies whatever especially here in the states. Hmm yeah ok not in Japan but USA for sure and it's up for debate in other regions.

My point is.

The 360 completely and utterly RIDICULOUSLY out classes PS3 in Game now and in the future and Xbox Live arcade online content everything. Yes 360 is a piece of **** in terms of hardware reliability AKA just like the PS2 did disk read error:shock: but a big but it is getting corrected as we speak.

But 2 out of the 3 and the most important 2 GAMES and ONLINE CONTENT the 360 lays a Hulk Hogan boot and then follows with a Hogan leg drop on the PS3.

Anyone that would even honestly believe other wise has baby batter Spackled all over their fanboy goggles.

RPG"S

Sports

Racing

Fighters

Action

Shooters.

360 has it on LOCKDOWN.

Xbox Live and Xbox Live arcade LOCKDOWN

Oh yeah Live TV shows and Movie network downloads LOCKDOWN.

:shock:

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The 2007 hardware sales show otherwise. Topic failed.

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#34 Abriael
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What normally makes me smile about this "MS wipes the floor with sony!" or "Sony eats MS alive" kind of topic is that people don't realize that Sony and MS need each other now.

As much as seeing one of the two HD consoles fail would make many fanboys of the competitor happy, it'd be a disaster for their own console as well. In an universe in wich multi-platform games are the norm, combined sales of PS3 and Xbox 360 are what keep most third party developers away from trying their luck on the Wii, because in the end it's still more convenient for them to program a game on the 360 and port it to the PS3 or the other way around, as opposed to develop it for the Wii (wich requires a definately separate process) and then have to place a gamble on the wii enormlus installed base and scattered target.

You wanna see Final Fantasy XIV and Gears of War III (just making examples of course) gimped by the graphics of the wii? I Don't, so better hope that BOTH the 360 and PS3 fare well during the whole generation.

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#35 MrPostman4Chi
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[QUOTE="Eddie_Munster08"]

Seriously:roll: Sony is hardly even a thought in regards to tv adds sponsored show tv shows references made by tv programs movies whatever especially here in the states. Hmm yeah ok not in Japan but USA for sure and it's up for debate in other regions.

My point is.

The 360 completely and utterly RIDICULOUSLY out classes PS3 in Game now and in the future and Xbox Live arcade online content everything. Yes 360 is a piece of **** in terms of hardware reliability AKA just like the PS2 did disk read error:shock: but a big but it is getting corrected as we speak.

But 2 out of the 3 and the most important 2 GAMES and ONLINE CONTENT the 360 lays a Hulk Hogan boot and then follows with a Hogan leg drop on the PS3.

Anyone that would even honestly believe other wise has baby batter Spackled all over their fanboy goggles.

RPG"S

Sports

Racing

Fighters

Action

Shooters.

360 has it on LOCKDOWN.

Xbox Live and Xbox Live arcade LOCKDOWN

Oh yeah Live TV shows and Movie network downloads LOCKDOWN.

:shock:

Dilrod

The 2007 hardware sales show otherwise. Topic failed.

Yeah only fanboys use sales as an argument and we dont play sales we play games......well now that i think about it since cows dont have any games to play they might as well play sales lol.
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#36 Action_Player
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As much as seeing one of the two HD consoles fail would make many fanboys of the competitor happy, it'd be a disaster for their own console as well... as opposed to develop it for the Wii (wich requires a definately separate process) and then have to place a gamble on the wii enormlus installed base and scattered target....

Abriael

Agreed, since if one of the two HD consoles goes under, it will be disasterous for that one. Even if it's difficult to program on the Wii, it can be done (even if it's done horribly) and WILL IMPROVE OVER TIME given the chance. It can take up to a year or more to make a "good" game for a console and that's why we see so few 1st party games from Nintendo.

I don't know what 1st party games are made for MS and Sony; not like I care, but that's beside the point. The point is, it takes time to make a game with a new control scheme (IE the Wii) that one on a standard controller (IE 360 and PS3).

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#37 Abriael
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Agreed, since if one of the two HD consoles goes under, it will be disasterous for that one. Even if it's difficult to program on the Wii, it can be done (even if it's done horribly) and WILL IMPROVE OVER TIME given the chance. It can take up to a year or more to make a "good" game for a console and that's why we see so few 1st party games from Nintendo.Action_Player

I guess you mean third party games. Because Nintendo produces an AWFUL lot of games for their consoles (for sure more than their competition) and is actually hogging sales.

Reason why you don't see many 3rd party games on the Wii (or better, the reason why they sell awfully) is that Nintendo scattered the target, moving the mass of it quite far from the "normal" gamer, the one that would buy the games that normally are made by third parties. The 40 years old manager that uses the wii fit won't buy a final fantasy or a gears of war even if forced to, same for the mom of the 5 years old kid that goes around the shelves looking for a "safe" game for her beloved to play. "gamers" in the true meaning of the term are a minority in the wii's installed base, and 3rd party software houses are, for now, well aware of that.

But for sure if one of the HD consoles were to go under, the enormous installed base of the wii would become more and more tempting even for software houses that normally program on both PS3 and 360

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#38 Dilrod
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[QUOTE="Dilrod"][QUOTE="Eddie_Munster08"]

Seriously:roll: Sony is hardly even a thought in regards to tv adds sponsored show tv shows references made by tv programs movies whatever especially here in the states. Hmm yeah ok not in Japan but USA for sure and it's up for debate in other regions.

My point is.

The 360 completely and utterly RIDICULOUSLY out classes PS3 in Game now and in the future and Xbox Live arcade online content everything. Yes 360 is a piece of **** in terms of hardware reliability AKA just like the PS2 did disk read error:shock: but a big but it is getting corrected as we speak.

But 2 out of the 3 and the most important 2 GAMES and ONLINE CONTENT the 360 lays a Hulk Hogan boot and then follows with a Hogan leg drop on the PS3.

Anyone that would even honestly believe other wise has baby batter Spackled all over their fanboy goggles.

RPG"S

Sports

Racing

Fighters

Action

Shooters.

360 has it on LOCKDOWN.

Xbox Live and Xbox Live arcade LOCKDOWN

Oh yeah Live TV shows and Movie network downloads LOCKDOWN.

:shock:

MrPostman4Chi

The 2007 hardware sales show otherwise. Topic failed.

Yeah only fanboys use sales as an argument and we dont play sales we play games......well now that i think about it since cows dont have any games to play they might as well play sales lol.

Ok.. if thats what makes you sleep better at night. Talk about fanboys. OOH THE PS3 has no games because gamespot says so!

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#39 Theclub83
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umm..... what if i have a pc and a ps3????

practically all the good 360 games and ps3 games. best two system combo imo

am i wrong?

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#41 Abriael
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Well, yeah, but in the end you need quite a costly PC (over 2000 dollars) to make the good 360 games run at the same framerate than a 360. So in the end the best combo (if one is interested in consoles more than PC gaming) is a PS3 AND a 360 (and maybe a wii too :P). If you have a PC as well, all the better, but i wouldn't run a native 360 game on a PC. The PC i use to play PC games :D
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#42 Action_Player
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[QUOTE="Action_Player"]Agreed, since if one of the two HD consoles goes under, it will be disasterous for that one. Even if it's difficult to program on the Wii, it can be done (even if it's done horribly) and WILL IMPROVE OVER TIME given the chance. It can take up to a year or more to make a "good" game for a console and that's why we see so few 1st party games from Nintendo.Abriael

I guess you mean third party games. Because Nintendo produces an AWFUL lot of games for their consoles (for sure more than their competition) and is actually hogging sales.

Hmm, I don't seem to see the vast number of 1st party Nintendo games since I don't seem to keep track of them, but I don't see many 1st party games (or any made by the company of each console) on any of the others. Please, do correct me if I'm wrong.

Reason why you don't see many 3rd party games on the Wii (or better, the reason why they sell awfully) is that Nintendo scattered the target, moving the mass of it quite far from the "normal" gamer, the one that would buy the games that normally are made by third parties. The 40 years old manager that uses the wii fit won't buy a final fantasy or a gears of war even if forced to, same for the mom of the 5 years old kid that goes around the shelves looking for a "safe" game for her beloved to play. "gamers" in the true meaning of the term are a minority in the wii's installed base, and 3rd party software houses are, for now, well aware of that.Abriael

I've bought some 3rd party games for the Wii that got horrible reviews and I've enjoyed every minute of them. We all have different tastes and there are some genres that others are not fans of. I'm not a huge fan of RPGs and there are only a scant few I've played and enjoyed since I'm not one to buy a second console when one is enough for me. Sure, I have enough for the other consoles, but I'm not interested in them.

But for sure if one of the HD consoles were to go under, the enormous installed base of the wii would become more and more tempting even for software houses that normally program on both PS3 and 360

Abriael

I've never really thought of that, but then again, I don't like to argue with people. I just like to post what I think is right and try to back it up with well typed posts for each rebuttal I get.

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#43 Abriael
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Hmm, I don't seem to see the vast number of 1st party Nintendo games since I don't seem to keep track of them, but I don't see many 1st party games (or any made by the company of each console) on any of the others. Please, do correct me if I'm wrong.Action_Player

Nintendo has released around 30 games on the wii so far, wich is pretty much a whole lot from a single company. The other problem is that, besides a few exceptions, most of them are the only ones that sell well. Between the 19 titles that on the wii sold more than 1 millions copies worldwide, 14 are Nintendo, 1 is Sega with nintendo characters (and as such royalties to Nintendo), and 1 is going to be a big mishap (guitar hero 3) because the company is being forced to offer refunds. This leaves us with a whole 4 games that sold well on the Wii and in wich Nintendo is uninvolved (and two of them were franchises that are quite bond to the nintendo brand, Rayman and RE:4). Can't blame 3rd party developers for not wanting to butt in too much.

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TC....This pic really show who you are.....

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#45 Arsenal325
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[QUOTE="Eddie_Munster08"][QUOTE="Mongo-Boss"]

You do realize that the 360 has been on the market for one more year and when you compare the 360 first year VS PS3's first year you have the PS3 beating it in sales 4 months ahead and same game attachment ratio

Wii is owning both of them in sales anyway

gatorteen

NOPE nice try. 360 first year had HUGE constraints the first 6 months so bad that you could still sell or buy a 360 on Ebay for well over retail months after launch.

PS3 on the other hand had PILES of PS3 on retail floors. And you could not even sell it on Ebay on day 1 for even retail in most cases.

So this is a very contrued myth

I dont think you have stated a fact the whole time youve been on this thread.

lol exactly what i was thinking

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#46 Arsenal325
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umm..... what if i have a pc and a ps3????

practically all the good 360 games and ps3 games. best two system combo imo

am i wrong?

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Hello brother!:D

we are in heaven haha

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#47 bobaban
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umm..... what if i have a pc and a ps3????

practically all the good 360 games and ps3 games. best two system combo imo

am i wrong?

Theclub83

No. You are corret. Most optimal combothis gen.

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#48 ganon546
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I don't own a PS3 yet so I'm not alloud to judge. But I do know that the 360 has been incredibly fun so far.